Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-20 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 19, 2008 6:44 PM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 1/19/08, Aanjhan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Jan 19, 2008 11:25 AM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   /me in clarifying mode...:P
   ofcourse kingsly that works out when you have a small number of
  members in
   the team.. Consider for ex: You are a division head of a company and
  700
   people are working under you.. Its just like saying write your ideas
  in a
   sheet of paper and keep it on your table; we'll collect it and look
  into
   it..And when the collection of sheets come the boss must be a real
  KALAKAR
   with a hell lot of patience to look into each of those.. And it isnt
   practically feasible  due to time factor.. Ofcourse our loco team is
  small
   compared to the larger community but.. when considered solely 700 and
  odd is
   quite a big number.. Secondly why I thought I would register up a
   sprint/meeting on LP with the probable dates so that attendees/people
  who
   are interested can register themselves for the meeting is the people
  who are
   interested around the world can join.. In short:
   If anyone wants to speak on any topic in the above mentioned agenda
  then
   they would register themselves as speakers of a particular topic (say
  for
   ex: Future of ubuntu India) So three wiki pages are required
   (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are
  speaking..
   (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker..
   (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its
  in
   discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea..
  and if
   the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with
  the
   name of the assignee..(I thought these things were implied when
  scheduling
   for a meet, but thanks kingsly for your query..:) )
   Any Comments are most welcome.
 
  I think I am more confused now than before. Absolutely. no clue on
  what you are trying to say. May be I am dumb.
 
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 I just answered kingly's query that why I prefer IRC for scheduling a
 meeting and calling for Ideas opposed to doing the same on a mailing list..

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Here it goes..
Agenda topic is ' An Overview of Linux scene in India With Special reference
to Ubuntu '
and it is aimed at creating an idea pool to help students and newbies
contribute actively towards ubuntu.. As I said above going about this topic
as I thought would involve the following:

three wiki pages are required
(1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are speaking..(for
example: Future of Ubuntu India,contributing to ubuntu for dummies and so
on)
(2).indicating the time slot for each speaker..
(3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its in
discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea.. and if
the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with the
name of the assignee..

And the date I thought was 26th January 2008, Saturday evening at 18:00 IST
as it is a holiday and will be convenient  to most  of  them  I  presume...

Any comments welcome..
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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-20 Thread Parthan SR
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Bhavani Shankar R wrote:
 three wiki pages are required
 (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are
speaking..(for example: Future of Ubuntu India,contributing to ubuntu
for dummies and so on)
 (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker..
 (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its
in discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea..
and if the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page
with the name of the assignee..

 And the date I thought was 26th January 2008, Saturday evening at 18:00
IST as it is a holiday and will be convenient  to most  of  them  I 
presume...
[1] Learn mailing list etiquettes please. You are quoting an entire mail
or half the thread to give a 2 line reply and we have to run through
twice or thrice the length of the screen to know what you have replied.
Understand what quoting is and make effective use of it in future.
[2] It doesn't look like an online discussion on IRC. We mostly prefer
to drop in, put our thoughts and keep moving, while someone takes the
responsibility of aggregating and publishing a MoM, places a final draft
in the wiki which gets fixed after final comments from all the members.
[3] Thank god it's on a holiday and am out!(I do not have internet at
home and hence attending anything on a Holiday after working hours is
not possible for me) ;) Good luck.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-20 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 21, 2008 10:47 AM, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Kingsly John wrote:
  +++ Parthan SR [2008-01-21 09:14:58]:
 
  [2] It doesn't look like an online discussion on IRC. We mostly prefer
  to drop in, put our thoughts and keep moving, while someone takes the
  responsibility of aggregating and publishing a MoM, places a final
 draft
  in the wiki which gets fixed after final comments from all the members.
 
  That's a Moo Point, because you Sir, obviously have no experience
 being
  the division head of a company with 700 employees working under you.
 /me looks under him, the 3 floors beneath him, and counts.. not even a
 100 *sigh*.
 /me agrees with Kingsly.

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Ok.. Thanks for your comments...

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-20 Thread Parthan SR
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Kingsly John wrote:
 +++ Parthan SR [2008-01-21 09:14:58]:

 [2] It doesn't look like an online discussion on IRC. We mostly prefer
 to drop in, put our thoughts and keep moving, while someone takes the
 responsibility of aggregating and publishing a MoM, places a final draft
 in the wiki which gets fixed after final comments from all the members.

 That's a Moo Point, because you Sir, obviously have no experience being
 the division head of a company with 700 employees working under you.
/me looks under him, the 3 floors beneath him, and counts.. not even a
100 *sigh*.
/me agrees with Kingsly.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-19 Thread Aanjhan R
Hi,

On Jan 19, 2008 11:25 AM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /me in clarifying mode...:P
 ofcourse kingsly that works out when you have a small number of members in
 the team.. Consider for ex: You are a division head of a company and 700
 people are working under you.. Its just like saying write your ideas in a
 sheet of paper and keep it on your table; we'll collect it and look into
 it..And when the collection of sheets come the boss must be a real KALAKAR
 with a hell lot of patience to look into each of those.. And it isnt
 practically feasible  due to time factor.. Ofcourse our loco team is small
 compared to the larger community but.. when considered solely 700 and odd is
 quite a big number.. Secondly why I thought I would register up a
 sprint/meeting on LP with the probable dates so that attendees/people who
 are interested can register themselves for the meeting is the people who are
 interested around the world can join.. In short:
 If anyone wants to speak on any topic in the above mentioned agenda then
 they would register themselves as speakers of a particular topic (say for
 ex: Future of ubuntu India) So three wiki pages are required
 (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are speaking..
 (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker..
 (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its in
 discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea.. and if
 the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with the
 name of the assignee..(I thought these things were implied when scheduling
 for a meet, but thanks kingsly for your query..:) )
 Any Comments are most welcome.

I think I am more confused now than before. Absolutely. no clue on
what you are trying to say. May be I am dumb.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-19 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On 1/19/08, Aanjhan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 On Jan 19, 2008 11:25 AM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  /me in clarifying mode...:P
  ofcourse kingsly that works out when you have a small number of members
 in
  the team.. Consider for ex: You are a division head of a company and 700
  people are working under you.. Its just like saying write your ideas in
 a
  sheet of paper and keep it on your table; we'll collect it and look into
  it..And when the collection of sheets come the boss must be a real
 KALAKAR
  with a hell lot of patience to look into each of those.. And it isnt
  practically feasible  due to time factor.. Ofcourse our loco team is
 small
  compared to the larger community but.. when considered solely 700 and
 odd is
  quite a big number.. Secondly why I thought I would register up a
  sprint/meeting on LP with the probable dates so that attendees/people
 who
  are interested can register themselves for the meeting is the people who
 are
  interested around the world can join.. In short:
  If anyone wants to speak on any topic in the above mentioned agenda then
  they would register themselves as speakers of a particular topic (say
 for
  ex: Future of ubuntu India) So three wiki pages are required
  (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are speaking..
  (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker..
  (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its in
  discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea.. and
 if
  the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with
 the
  name of the assignee..(I thought these things were implied when
 scheduling
  for a meet, but thanks kingsly for your query..:) )
  Any Comments are most welcome.

 I think I am more confused now than before. Absolutely. no clue on
 what you are trying to say. May be I am dumb.

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I just answered kingly's query that why I prefer IRC for scheduling a
meeting and calling for Ideas opposed to doing the same on a mailing list..
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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-18 Thread Parthan SR
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Bhavani Shankar R wrote:
 Onkar.. I know that some of you guys like
aanjhan,parthan,karthik,soumyadip et al.are doing great work.. Its
specifically aimed at newbies to help them start contributing.. I know
that you guys are contributing under peer pressure at work and thats
great.. I have also seen you giving answers in the forums/answer tracker
thats great.. But its specifically aimed at students because we as
students will not have any pressure or such sort of thing.. So I thought
of this idea to make an open discussion on the IRC and have an idea pool
created so as to larger chunk of the newbies/students can contribute
actively
/me feels elated to be in the elite list and drops all ideas of flaming :P

We welcome your idea to motivate students to contribute and if there is
such an attempt we will, as a part of Ubuntu India Loco Team, would be
happy to help out anyone. But, before jumping into the mid sea, what
precisely are you planning to do?

[1] Are you asking us to sit on a IRC discussion and make of list of
things to do be done? If yes, what kind of things. If not, then?
[2] Do you expect us to take one kind of task and mentor the students
who come forward to do it? If yes, what are the task, how do you plan to
keep things in check and where do the students come from? If no, then?
[3] We contribute on our own passion to do. We have nothing pressuring
up to do them, rather we have other things which might prevent us from
contributing as much as we would like to. IMNSHPO, I do not count on
college students to have passion to do the same, especially if they do
not have 2-3 years of exposure to FOSS and are motivated by the
community (and its contribution)
[4] Once we fix on with a list of idea pool, as you mention, what are
the consequent steps to put this into action. Do you have a plan or
blueprint? If yes, please provide us with it. Else, prepare one.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-18 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 18, 2008 1:59 PM, Onkar Shinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 18, 2008 1:11 PM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hello
  I have got a new idea...
  Why not schedule up an IRC Meet and discuss about the present linux
 scene in
  India with special ref to ubuntu? and have an idea pool created so as to
  have a larger chunk of the team contributing to ubuntu and moving
 forward
  ubuntu in india? any takers?/responses/critics
  /comments/suggestions If i get a positive response.. then i ll
 register
  a sprint on LP and put it up on the mailing list so that attendees can
  register themselves..
 
  P.S. Its a part of the marketing team I set up..
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianPromoters
 
  (the team's wiki)

 As far as I am concerned, I am trying to fix some java related
 packages for past month in universe repository. And that activity is
 going well since I am a java programmer.

 Do you have anything specific in mind? I would like to hear some of your
 ideas.
 Because there is nothing other - than bug reporting/triaging, patches,
 packaging, documentation, translation to Indian languages - that I can
 do at this moment. So if you have anything else to say please do.



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Onkar.. I know that some of you guys like aanjhan,parthan,karthik,soumyadip
et al.are doing great work.. Its specifically aimed at newbies to help them
start contributing.. I know that you guys are contributing under peer
pressure at work and thats great.. I have also seen you giving answers in
the forums/answer tracker thats great.. But its specifically aimed at
students because we as students will not have any pressure or such sort of
thing.. So I thought of this idea to make an open discussion on the IRC and
have an idea pool created so as to larger chunk of the newbies/students can
contribute actively

P.S. For students: This is a generalised statement.. If anyone's
contributing to ubuntu as a student, thats great.. and please dont make this
a topic for flaming...:)


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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-18 Thread Bhavani Shankar R
On Jan 18, 2008 5:12 PM, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Bhavani Shankar R wrote:
  Onkar.. I know that some of you guys like
 aanjhan,parthan,karthik,soumyadip et al.are doing great work.. Its
 specifically aimed at newbies to help them start contributing.. I know
 that you guys are contributing under peer pressure at work and thats
 great.. I have also seen you giving answers in the forums/answer tracker
 thats great.. But its specifically aimed at students because we as
 students will not have any pressure or such sort of thing.. So I thought
 of this idea to make an open discussion on the IRC and have an idea pool
 created so as to larger chunk of the newbies/students can contribute
 actively
 /me feels elated to be in the elite list and drops all ideas of flaming :P

 We welcome your idea to motivate students to contribute and if there is
 such an attempt we will, as a part of Ubuntu India Loco Team, would be
 happy to help out anyone. But, before jumping into the mid sea, what
 precisely are you planning to do?

 [1] Are you asking us to sit on a IRC discussion and make of list of
 things to do be done? If yes, what kind of things. If not, then?
 [2] Do you expect us to take one kind of task and mentor the students
 who come forward to do it? If yes, what are the task, how do you plan to
 keep things in check and where do the students come from? If no, then?
 [3] We contribute on our own passion to do. We have nothing pressuring
 up to do them, rather we have other things which might prevent us from
 contributing as much as we would like to. IMNSHPO, I do not count on
 college students to have passion to do the same, especially if they do
 not have 2-3 years of exposure to FOSS and are motivated by the
 community (and its contribution)
 [4] Once we fix on with a list of idea pool, as you mention, what are
 the consequent steps to put this into action. Do you have a plan or
 blueprint? If yes, please provide us with it. Else, prepare one.

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[1] Are you asking us to sit on a IRC discussion and make of list of
things to do be done? If yes, what kind of things. If not, then?

exactly.. I am requesting for an IRC discussion and build up a list of
things to be done.. from the discussion we can have an idea pool created and
then look forward to implement those plans/ideas subject to approval of the
loco team members.. For this we need a separate wiki page for the idea pool
so created mentioning its status i.e whether its in discussion/drafting or
approved or deferred/dropped.. And  if the  idea is implemented it will
appear  on our current projects page with the name of the assignee.. That
would be my point  of  view...So for this to happen I thought I would
register up a sprint/meeting on LP with the probable dates so that
attendees/people who are interested can register themselves for the
meeting..and I chose IRC because I thought the best way to get everyone on a
single platform is an IRC.

Any comments welcome..

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Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...

2008-01-17 Thread Raseel Bhagat
Hi Bhavani,


On Jan 18, 2008 1:11 PM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello
 I have got a new idea...
 Why not schedule up an IRC Meet and discuss about the present linux scene
 in India with special ref to ubuntu? and have an idea pool created so as to
 have a larger chunk of the team contributing to ubuntu and moving forward
 ubuntu in india? any takers?/responses/critics/comments/suggestions If
 i get a positive response.. then i ll register a sprint on LP and put it up
 on the mailing list so that attendees can register themselves..


I have been using Ubuntu  for quite some time but have not actually
contributed anything to the project. I , for one, would like to be part of
such discussions and eventually be a contributing member. I think this will
bring forth many wannaba developers as well as mentors.

Thanks,
Raseel
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