[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: "Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense

2007-01-20 Thread Joachim Noreiko
In the Gnome Desktop User Guide, section 'Deleting a File or Folder':

When you delete a file or folder, the file or
folder is not moved to Trash, but is deleted from your
file system immediately. The Delete menu item is
only available if you select the Include a Delete command that bypasses
Trash option in the File Management Preferences
 dialog.

The above help text makes no sense with the current GUI labelling.

Please reopen this bug and address the matter.

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: "Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense

2006-12-13 Thread Joachim Noreiko
Sridhar,
Consistency across the desktop is a very good thing to aim for.
Adopting an existing term instead of pulling a new one out of a hat is also a 
very good idea.

However, the existing term you've picked is not satisfactory. 
Users may be aware of what it means to delete a file, but anyone can see that a 
menu item 'Delete from Deleted Items folder' is just silly.

Your choice of term was by design, but the consequences is has are
buggy: hence the bug report.

I apologize for being too hasty initially -- you're right, I should have signed 
up to the list before diving in to the wiki.
But I must ask you to reopen this and address it. You've still not actually 
justified the specific choice of 'Deleted Items'.
In changing the 'Trash/Delete' concept to 'Delete/Permanently Delete' you're 
not translating the interface, you are redesigning it, and that isn't your job.

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: "Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I'm not hugely bothered what it's changed *to* -- I picked 'Wastebasket'
because it's what Macs used to use before OS X.

'Deleted Items folder' is wordy and cumbersome, but the worst problem
with it is that it completely breaks the trash metaphor: objects in the
trash are not deleted, they are in the trash. You delete something by
emptying the trash.

Using 'Deleted Items folder' forces you to set up 'delete' and
'permanently delete' as terms for two very different things, which is
confusing.

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: "Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I find mailing list archives near-impossible to read.

I've made my point as clearly as I can: "Deleted items" causes the Trash 
interface to make no sense.
I don't see what reasons can trump that.

It doesn't seem to me like there's much point in me joining the list.

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[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: "Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense

2006-12-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
Sorry -- I mean I've fixed the "Deleted items" translation to
"Wastebasket" throughout. I don't have the access rights to upload them
back to rosetta.

Here's the one for gnome-applets.

** Attachment added: "PO file for gnome-applets"
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/5350613/gnome-applets-en_GB.po

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2006-12-11 Thread Joachim Noreiko
I've downloaded the two PO files from Rosetta but I'm not sure what to
do with them next.

** Attachment added: "PO file for nautilus"
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/5350611/nautilus-en_GB.po

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