Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] More untranslated strings in Maverick beta in galician language.
El dt 14 de 09 de 2010 a les 15:37 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va escriure: > Great David, > > previously in this list we discuses the possibility to generate language > packs for the ubuntu+1 release and make them available via ppa. So with > those packaged and "more updated" packages all the translators can > confirm and solve all the issues I wrote quicker. > Hi Fran, In principle, there is no need to generate PPA language packs for the development release. Language packs are generated twice a week and uploaded automatically to the archive, except for the freeze periods before releasing milestones (alphas, betas, RC, etc.), according to the current schedule [1]. So there is no need to have an intermediate PPA, as language packs are made available to users of the development release already. The problem we've had for a few weeks is that these language packs were stopped due to a problem in generating them. That's why you did not see any updates. What we were discussing on the previous thread was for how many _stable_ releases should we have a PPA, so that testers can test stable updates before they are released. I hope this clarifies things. Thanks for the good feedback! Regards, David. [1] https://dev.launchpad.net/Translations/LanguagePackSchedule > Regards, > Keep the good work! > > O Mar, 14-09-2010 ás 13:35 +0200, David Planella escribiu: > > Hi Fran, > > > > Sorry for the delay in replying and thanks a lot for the exhaustive > > testing. This is really useful for identifying problems as soon as > > possible and having time to fix them. > > > > El dj 09 de 09 de 2010 a les 00:33 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va > > escriure: > > > Hi all again, > > > > > > This afternoon I've been testing deeply the new Maverick beta for > > > untranslated strings or problems related to l10n (mainly focused in > > > Galician language translations), so below I list some issues I have > > > found: > > > > > > Errors into the Live CD > > > > > > - Selecting Galician language in the bootloader and after all the > > > system is loaded from the CD doesn't display any translated string. All > > > the programs, menus, applets, etc, are in English. > > > > That is to be expected, as the Galician language pack is not included on > > the LiveCd. We'd like to include all languages or as many as possible on > > the CD, but this is not possible due to space constraints. > > > > > Is the Galician > > > language included in the CD version? (Lucid showed almost the entire > > > interface in galician...). > > > > No, it is not included. If the interface was partially shown in > > Galician, it might have been by chance (perhaps some applications did > > contain translations which should have been in language packs?), but in > > fact they should not be shown. > > > > > I attach a tarball where you can see some > > > strings untranslated that in LP are translated for more than 2 weeks. > > > Take notice the bottom messages like "Copying files.." and the final > > > screenshot that shows the "Needed restart" message. > > > > Thanks. I'll try to comment on all you've observed. If I've forgotten > > anything, please let us know on this thread. > > > > Notice that translations for the installer haven't been updated for a > > while, so that might be why some of the strings appear untranslated > > during installation. > > > > > > > > - When you click the restart button is showed the message "Please > > > remove installation media and close the tray" that in the previous > > > versions was translated. > > > > > > > Is that on the text interface on logout? I cannot remember it ever being > > translated in Catalan. Translators: was it translated in other > > languages? > > > > > Errors in a installed system (with the beta available 10/9/2010): > > > > > > - All the interface is in English (in the installation I select the > > > Galician language option) and previous versions show a dialog to > > > "install all the compatability language" for Galician. After upgrade all > > > the system from beta to latest packages (September 8th, 21:40 pm) don't > > > install the translation packages. But now trying to go to Language > > > Support and after clicking Install in the «The language support is not > > > installed completely» the galician language packages are installed and > > > after restart session Ubuntu is showed in galician language. > > > > > > > This is probably due to this bug: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/630924 > > > > > - Minor errors: > > > * aboutme-applet: Shows "About me..." instead of "Sobre min..." > > > > This is because the language packs have not been generated since the > > beta release, due to a problem. This should now be fixed and new > > language packs should be starting to be available between tomorrow late > > afternoon UTC/Thursday. > > > > If the problem still persists after the language pack updates, please > > file a bug against the ubuntu-translations pr
Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] More untranslated strings in Maverick beta in galician language.
Hi Fran, Sorry for the delay in replying and thanks a lot for the exhaustive testing. This is really useful for identifying problems as soon as possible and having time to fix them. El dj 09 de 09 de 2010 a les 00:33 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va escriure: > Hi all again, > > This afternoon I've been testing deeply the new Maverick beta for > untranslated strings or problems related to l10n (mainly focused in > Galician language translations), so below I list some issues I have > found: > > Errors into the Live CD > > - Selecting Galician language in the bootloader and after all the > system is loaded from the CD doesn't display any translated string. All > the programs, menus, applets, etc, are in English. That is to be expected, as the Galician language pack is not included on the LiveCd. We'd like to include all languages or as many as possible on the CD, but this is not possible due to space constraints. > Is the Galician > language included in the CD version? (Lucid showed almost the entire > interface in galician...). No, it is not included. If the interface was partially shown in Galician, it might have been by chance (perhaps some applications did contain translations which should have been in language packs?), but in fact they should not be shown. > I attach a tarball where you can see some > strings untranslated that in LP are translated for more than 2 weeks. > Take notice the bottom messages like "Copying files.." and the final > screenshot that shows the "Needed restart" message. Thanks. I'll try to comment on all you've observed. If I've forgotten anything, please let us know on this thread. Notice that translations for the installer haven't been updated for a while, so that might be why some of the strings appear untranslated during installation. > > - When you click the restart button is showed the message "Please > remove installation media and close the tray" that in the previous > versions was translated. > Is that on the text interface on logout? I cannot remember it ever being translated in Catalan. Translators: was it translated in other languages? > Errors in a installed system (with the beta available 10/9/2010): > > - All the interface is in English (in the installation I select the > Galician language option) and previous versions show a dialog to > "install all the compatability language" for Galician. After upgrade all > the system from beta to latest packages (September 8th, 21:40 pm) don't > install the translation packages. But now trying to go to Language > Support and after clicking Install in the «The language support is not > installed completely» the galician language packages are installed and > after restart session Ubuntu is showed in galician language. > This is probably due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/630924 > - Minor errors: > * aboutme-applet: Shows "About me..." instead of "Sobre min..." This is because the language packs have not been generated since the beta release, due to a problem. This should now be fixed and new language packs should be starting to be available between tomorrow late afternoon UTC/Thursday. If the problem still persists after the language pack updates, please file a bug against the ubuntu-translations project. > * Main menu untranslated entries: > \ Firefox Web Browser Yes, these translations are now coordinated on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop and will be uploaded on Thursday on NonLanguagePackDeadline. > \ Additional Drivers into System->Administration Yes, as "About me..." this only needs a language pack update. It should be fixed after that. > \ Evolution Mail (very weird, in Internet section is untranslated > but in Office section is translated) > I'm not sure about this one, but I'm assuming it needs a language pack update. If that does not fix it, please report a bug against ubuntu-translations. > - Downloads folder (I think is from xdg folders name) is untranslated. I think this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/630147 Feel free to subscribe to follow its development or to provide more feedback. > - Configuration Step of Evolution mail configuración (I attach a > screenshot for this). > Again, I'm not sure about this one, but I'm assuming it needs a language pack update. If that does not fix it, please report a bug against ubuntu-translations. > All the errors I list above are verified in LP and all of their > translations are completed for more than one week. > > As you can see there is a lot of minor errors and I would need that > other languages confirm those issues or not. > Thanks! Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-l10n-gl mailing list Ubuntu-l10n-gl@lists.ubuntu
Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] More untranslated strings in Maverick beta in galician language.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I did that notice cause I didn't see any update to language pack but if the cause was it was stopped by an internal issue no problem. Regards O Mar, 14-09-2010 ás 16:04 +0200, David Planella escribiu: > El dt 14 de 09 de 2010 a les 15:37 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va > escriure: > > Great David, > > > > previously in this list we discuses the possibility to generate language > > packs for the ubuntu+1 release and make them available via ppa. So with > > those packaged and "more updated" packages all the translators can > > confirm and solve all the issues I wrote quicker. > > > > Hi Fran, > > In principle, there is no need to generate PPA language packs for the > development release. Language packs are generated twice a week and > uploaded automatically to the archive, except for the freeze periods > before releasing milestones (alphas, betas, RC, etc.), according to the > current schedule [1]. > > So there is no need to have an intermediate PPA, as language packs are > made available to users of the development release already. > > The problem we've had for a few weeks is that these language packs were > stopped due to a problem in generating them. That's why you did not see > any updates. > > What we were discussing on the previous thread was for how many _stable_ > releases should we have a PPA, so that testers can test stable updates > before they are released. > > I hope this clarifies things. Thanks for the good feedback! > > Regards, > David. > > [1] https://dev.launchpad.net/Translations/LanguagePackSchedule > > > Regards, > > Keep the good work! > > > > O Mar, 14-09-2010 ás 13:35 +0200, David Planella escribiu: > > > Hi Fran, > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in replying and thanks a lot for the exhaustive > > > testing. This is really useful for identifying problems as soon as > > > possible and having time to fix them. > > > > > > El dj 09 de 09 de 2010 a les 00:33 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va > > > escriure: > > > > Hi all again, > > > > > > > > This afternoon I've been testing deeply the new Maverick beta for > > > > untranslated strings or problems related to l10n (mainly focused in > > > > Galician language translations), so below I list some issues I have > > > > found: > > > > > > > > Errors into the Live CD > > > > > > > > - Selecting Galician language in the bootloader and after all the > > > > system is loaded from the CD doesn't display any translated string. All > > > > the programs, menus, applets, etc, are in English. > > > > > > That is to be expected, as the Galician language pack is not included on > > > the LiveCd. We'd like to include all languages or as many as possible on > > > the CD, but this is not possible due to space constraints. > > > > > > > Is the Galician > > > > language included in the CD version? (Lucid showed almost the entire > > > > interface in galician...). > > > > > > No, it is not included. If the interface was partially shown in > > > Galician, it might have been by chance (perhaps some applications did > > > contain translations which should have been in language packs?), but in > > > fact they should not be shown. > > > > > > > I attach a tarball where you can see some > > > > strings untranslated that in LP are translated for more than 2 weeks. > > > > Take notice the bottom messages like "Copying files.." and the final > > > > screenshot that shows the "Needed restart" message. > > > > > > Thanks. I'll try to comment on all you've observed. If I've forgotten > > > anything, please let us know on this thread. > > > > > > Notice that translations for the installer haven't been updated for a > > > while, so that might be why some of the strings appear untranslated > > > during installation. > > > > > > > > > > > - When you click the restart button is showed the message "Please > > > > remove installation media and close the tray" that in the previous > > > > versions was translated. > > > > > > > > > > Is that on the text interface on logout? I cannot remember it ever being > > > translated in Catalan. Translators: was it translated in other > > > languages? > > > > > > > Errors in a installed system (with the beta available 10/9/2010): > > > > > > > > - All the interface is in English (in the installation I select the > > > > Galician language option) and previous versions show a dialog to > > > > "install all the compatability language" for Galician. After upgrade all > > > > the system from beta to latest packages (September 8th, 21:40 pm) don't > > > > install the translation packages. But now trying to go to Language > > > > Support and after clicking Install in the «The language support is not > > > > installed completely» the galician language packages are installed and > > > > after restart session Ubuntu is showed in galician language. > > > > > > > > > > This is probably due to this bug: > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/630924 > > > > > > > - Mino
Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] More untranslated strings in Maverick beta in galician language.
Great David, previously in this list we discuses the possibility to generate language packs for the ubuntu+1 release and make them available via ppa. So with those packaged and "more updated" packages all the translators can confirm and solve all the issues I wrote quicker. Regards, Keep the good work! O Mar, 14-09-2010 ás 13:35 +0200, David Planella escribiu: > Hi Fran, > > Sorry for the delay in replying and thanks a lot for the exhaustive > testing. This is really useful for identifying problems as soon as > possible and having time to fix them. > > El dj 09 de 09 de 2010 a les 00:33 +0200, en/na Fran Dieguez va > escriure: > > Hi all again, > > > > This afternoon I've been testing deeply the new Maverick beta for > > untranslated strings or problems related to l10n (mainly focused in > > Galician language translations), so below I list some issues I have > > found: > > > > Errors into the Live CD > > > > - Selecting Galician language in the bootloader and after all the > > system is loaded from the CD doesn't display any translated string. All > > the programs, menus, applets, etc, are in English. > > That is to be expected, as the Galician language pack is not included on > the LiveCd. We'd like to include all languages or as many as possible on > the CD, but this is not possible due to space constraints. > > > Is the Galician > > language included in the CD version? (Lucid showed almost the entire > > interface in galician...). > > No, it is not included. If the interface was partially shown in > Galician, it might have been by chance (perhaps some applications did > contain translations which should have been in language packs?), but in > fact they should not be shown. > > > I attach a tarball where you can see some > > strings untranslated that in LP are translated for more than 2 weeks. > > Take notice the bottom messages like "Copying files.." and the final > > screenshot that shows the "Needed restart" message. > > Thanks. I'll try to comment on all you've observed. If I've forgotten > anything, please let us know on this thread. > > Notice that translations for the installer haven't been updated for a > while, so that might be why some of the strings appear untranslated > during installation. > > > > > - When you click the restart button is showed the message "Please > > remove installation media and close the tray" that in the previous > > versions was translated. > > > > Is that on the text interface on logout? I cannot remember it ever being > translated in Catalan. Translators: was it translated in other > languages? > > > Errors in a installed system (with the beta available 10/9/2010): > > > > - All the interface is in English (in the installation I select the > > Galician language option) and previous versions show a dialog to > > "install all the compatability language" for Galician. After upgrade all > > the system from beta to latest packages (September 8th, 21:40 pm) don't > > install the translation packages. But now trying to go to Language > > Support and after clicking Install in the «The language support is not > > installed completely» the galician language packages are installed and > > after restart session Ubuntu is showed in galician language. > > > > This is probably due to this bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/630924 > > > - Minor errors: > > * aboutme-applet: Shows "About me..." instead of "Sobre min..." > > This is because the language packs have not been generated since the > beta release, due to a problem. This should now be fixed and new > language packs should be starting to be available between tomorrow late > afternoon UTC/Thursday. > > If the problem still persists after the language pack updates, please > file a bug against the ubuntu-translations project. > > > * Main menu untranslated entries: > > \ Firefox Web Browser > > Yes, these translations are now coordinated on > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop and will be > uploaded on Thursday on NonLanguagePackDeadline. > > > \ Additional Drivers into System->Administration > > Yes, as "About me..." this only needs a language pack update. It should > be fixed after that. > > > \ Evolution Mail (very weird, in Internet section is untranslated > > but in Office section is translated) > > > > I'm not sure about this one, but I'm assuming it needs a language pack > update. If that does not fix it, please report a bug against > ubuntu-translations. > > > - Downloads folder (I think is from xdg folders name) is untranslated. > > I think this is > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/630147 Feel free to > subscribe to follow its development or to provide more feedback. > > > - Configuration Step of Evolution mail configuración (I attach a > > screenshot for this). > > > > Again, I'm not sure about this one, but I'm assuming it needs a language > pack update. If that does not fix it, pleas
