[ubuntu-marketing] Re: gnome live cd - belgian keyboard layout
On 7/24/06, ghislaine de vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Is it possible to choose the belgian keyboard layout during boot as a cheatcode ? What is the exact sentence I would have to type ? Or is it done after the cd is started, in the terminal ? What is the exact sentence then ? Do I have to be logged in as root or su ? Or can I choose the keyboard layout in the graphical environment? Thank you very much for your answer Ghislaine De Vos I am sorry, but this is the ubuntu marketing list, not a user help one. I would suggest you try the ubuntu-users mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Re: gnome live cd - belgian keyboard layout
On 7/30/06, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/24/06, ghislaine de vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to choose the belgian keyboard layout during boot as a > cheatcode ? > What is the exact sentence I would have to type ? > > Or is it done after the cd is started, in the terminal ? What is the > exact sentence then ? Do I have to be logged in as root or su ? > Or can I choose the keyboard layout in the graphical environment? > > Thank you very much for your answer > > Ghislaine De Vos I am sorry, but this is the ubuntu marketing list, not a user help one. I would suggest you try the ubuntu-users mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users Cheers, Corey Sorry, wrong bloody marketing list :) Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Launchpad: Your membership status on team Ubuntu Marketing Team was changed
On 7/30/06, Robert McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:35:09 +0300 "Atila Sendil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi and bye all; > don't know how this happened but; > So long and thanks for all the fish ... > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Launchpad Team Membership Notifier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Jul 30, 2006 7:15 AM > Subject: Launchpad: Your membership status on team Ubuntu Marketing > Team was changed > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello, > > The status of your membership on team "ubuntu-marketing" (Ubuntu > Marketing Team) > was changed from Approved to Expired. > OK, what's going on here? I thought at first that this was a delayed reply from some of the people who's memberships were expired a while back, but the date on the forwarded mail is today. I thought everybody who was still on the list after that was there for a year? The only thing I could think off is if the year is measured from when they joined the team? If that is the case and we are going to have memberships expiring automatically is there any way to get a reminder sent to the people affected before it happens saying that it is coming up and to get in touch with on of the team admins to renew? Alternatively do we need to be expiring memberships at all given that it clearly has the possibility of upsetting people? Yes it does. I kick myself for not stopping it. I just kind of let it happen, without agreeing or disagreeing with it. Atila, I apologize. What happened is that it was decided to expire everybodies membership after 30 days, to judge interest in -marketing. Given what just happened, I think we should rethink this strategy. Thoughts? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Announcing the Unified Ubuntu Branding Project
Tim Morris wrote:
> Marketing Team Members (and lurkers),
>
> Speaking as someone who gets paid to do market research, the problem
> here is clearly one of unclear direction from the client on the target
> market.
>
> Is the *-buntu product and brand targeted at consumers (students,
> mothers, etc.) or at business (SMB, corporate) or government agencies
> (schools, libraries) or is it targeted at hardcore linux programmers
> (specifically to attract their support and contributions)???
a brief comment:
An aspect of *Ubuntu which has helped characterise the product (brand)
for me as a new user, has been the shipit facility. I would have
thought this was aimed at the ambitious home user (ahu), mostly a
linux newbie. Businesses might use shipit, as might linux experienced
users, but only the non-linux newbie would be -most- attracted to a
shipit item. At my Demo displays ('Infopoint', for Open Source), the
Shipit CD is the item attracting the most newbie interest. This
suggests to me that there is a deliberate strategy which at least
includes ahu's.
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Forget the libre this is marketing Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu-libre and Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Baer wrote: > Paul, > snip > > Did I miss the point? > Hi John, The short answer is yes. The long answer is: I will try to redo the scope to be somewhat more obvious with the point I am trying to make. When you go to market Ubuntu, you have many options. What I am suggesting is that no matter what we are talking about that the brand is one thing and one thing alone. The word Ubuntu. So to me it does not matter if you talk of k/ed/x/n/ubuntu/-libre the word you need to put in front of people is Ubuntu. When I take your notes into consideration you have a serious fault in the wiki. Ubuntu -> Linux -> Gnome is wrong. If I continue to use your method it should be: Linux -> Ubuntu -> Gnome. However that is not what I am saying at all. I am saying - the key word, is Ubuntu. You get people talking about Ubuntu. When they start to engage in this process we get a feel for requirements this informs the decision that allows the statement Version X might suit you. Where Version X, is Ubuntu or one of its down streams. What I am objecting to is using other words to define tasks or functions that fall into "themes". We have a brand. Ubuntu. We have products, one of which is also the same name as the brand. Similar to some large soft drinks companies. What I am objecting to is the use of words for the sake of themselves. If we have a newspaper/magazine. To reinforce the branding we should use the same key name. Just because we know the rules that apply to our products, new individuals will not. More words introduces more confusion. We have an obligation to make it easy to understand. When it comes to the magazine, therefore naming it anything other than. Ubuntu Magazine, or Ubuntu News adds to potential confusion. If for instance we used the name Ubuntu Talk. Is this a telephone? Confusion. Is this gossip? One would hope it was more than this. The other two words news, and magazine define the item by name. Kubuntu is a project, under the Ubuntu banner. Edubuntu is again the same. The whole libre thing distorted the message, you got some tangent that I did not see when I wrote it. (Note to self, be way more explicit. ;-)) So I have closed it off for the purposes of this mail, I'll bring it to the table in its own right when it is closer to being ready, there is nothing for anyone to do at this time. The steps in the project are being managed. We have now got a process to fork Debian or ubuntu create a live installing CD. Our joke yesterday was in three years time the question will not be what distro are you running, but what distro is yours one based upon. ;-) Free software projects are lead by the software, and the rest follows, or not as the case may be. In the Ubuntu project the software has lots of shine. It has more documentation than any other distro that I know of. It is vast beyond the grasp of most of us. We see our own corners and a little bit beyond our own immediate horizon. What I want from marketing is a gathering of knowledge, that is a map of the organisational structure of the Ubuntu project. This is a hugely important task that no FLOSS project has off to a fine art. We can actually do it. We are trying to inform people about Ubuntu. So define a persons needs when they come to a project like Ubuntu. They want information. This information may be in the public domain. The crucial point is that it is not in the part of the public domain in front of the person who is now in need of information. The information needs to be sourced. Providing a "Ubuntu Map" with links to the other projects within Ubuntu showing information flow. This is fantastic stuff, however we need marketing to do one more "human resource task" at this point. Show people how they can interact with any part of the project. Bug reports. Specs. Documentation on hardware X. How to run Software Y. If you like a knowledge base of who what where when how for Ubuntu, totally driven by the need for people to see and understand the process. Building this is what I think marketing can bring to the Ubuntu family. Dream: This means that anyone can don a marketing tee shirt then stand at the door of any of the access points to the Ubuntu project and be able to redirect people to the correct location with a minimum of fuss, and if needed to empower a person to set up whatever needs to be done. Translation. Lowering the bar to access. Regards, Paul O'Malley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEzQpaoWm0gT2CRXkRAgn+AJ420wLRZKFkHOil7x0UnQ95DjnB+gCeKdc4 oQfIW91R2BF7sT5bSHWqD4M= =bbNm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Hiiiiiii
Hi all, I am Gaurav Mishra , a student from India , And would like to help regarding the Mag Contents, Whom to trouble ? -- Linux User #348873 ILUGD Commitee Member, GZLUG , DGLUG Moderator Software Trainee @ Xavient B.Tech 4th Year Computer Science , RKGIT , Ghaziabad http://rockybhai.blogspot.com "When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward" -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Launchpad: Your membership status on team Ubuntu Marketing Team was changed
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:35:09 +0300 "Atila Sendil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi and bye all; > don't know how this happened but; > So long and thanks for all the fish ... > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Launchpad Team Membership Notifier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Jul 30, 2006 7:15 AM > Subject: Launchpad: Your membership status on team Ubuntu Marketing > Team was changed > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello, > > The status of your membership on team "ubuntu-marketing" (Ubuntu > Marketing Team) > was changed from Approved to Expired. > OK, what's going on here? I thought at first that this was a delayed reply from some of the people who's memberships were expired a while back, but the date on the forwarded mail is today. I thought everybody who was still on the list after that was there for a year? The only thing I could think off is if the year is measured from when they joined the team? If that is the case and we are going to have memberships expiring automatically is there any way to get a reminder sent to the people affected before it happens saying that it is coming up and to get in touch with on of the team admins to renew? Alternatively do we need to be expiring memberships at all given that it clearly has the possibility of upsetting people? Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com What is a light year? One third less calories than a regular year. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Launchpad: Your membership status on team Ubuntu Marketing Team was changed
Hi and bye all;don't know how this happened but;So long and thanks for all the fish ...-- Forwarded message --From: Launchpad Team Membership Notifier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Jul 30, 2006 7:15 AMSubject: Launchpad: Your membership status on team Ubuntu Marketing Team was changedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hello,The status of your membership on team "ubuntu-marketing" (Ubuntu Marketing Team)was changed from Approved to Expired.None -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu-libre and Ubuntu
Paul,
I am trying to understand what you are suggesting. I believe your
example "Ubuntu-libre" is a good one.
Forgive me as I have not researched this effort but my limited
understanding is this project is Ubuntu Linux Gnome packaged with FSF
software{?}.
Here are my questions for this effort.
1. How will folks come to learn of this product?
2. Will it always and only be Gnome? What about KDE & XFCE & others?
3. Who will decide on the branding?
To your next question as to the purpose of the Marketing Team?
The Ubuntu web site says "promote Ubuntu to a wider audience ...". I
don't know where those words came from.
My question ...
1. How would we know it's working?
2. What exactly does the word Ubuntu mean? Community or product? If
product is it one in particular or all? If all what does all mean?
>From where I sit the road we are on is the one you described as "Create
confusion in the minds of your victims".
Why is that, Ubuntu-libre! How will this product or products enter the
mix? Will the Ubuntu home page have another related project title
"fUbuntu" for FSF Ubuntu? :)
What this all boils down to is anyone looking out for Ubuntu as a whole
or is Ubuntu really just a collection of projects operating under the
principle "may the best project win"?
There is an old saying in the business world. More businesses explode to
failure than any other way.
Controlling growth is difficult and that's where we are at.
I suggest marketing is more than just spreading the word.
Did I miss the point?
John
BTW: My thoughts on branding are here.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnifiedUbuntuBranding
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