Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?

2007-03-02 Thread Toby Smithe
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 18:11 +, Matthew Revell wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by a more social solution. UWN is edited on a
> wiki - the most collaborative way possible, without getting into real
> time collaborative editing. I think replacing UWN by email with a forum
> post would be a mistake. UWN is currently pushed to people, a forum post
> requires people to go find it.

Just an FYI that UWN does have large amount of realtime collaborative
editing using Gobby.

> 
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[ubuntu-marketing] Wiki Pages

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Wagstaff
Hello,
I am new to this platform (linux), distribution (ubuntu), and all it's 
associated terms etc., but am not new to the concepts.
I have been reading, and reading the wiki pages, attempting to find the correct 
processes, for reporting issues/problems I have discovered during my attempted 
use/installs of ubuntu (live CD, and install to hd).
I have found a few, what I believe might be issues, with wiki pages that have 
confused my learning process. I'm not sure where to start, so I've started here.

I am using the 'Feisty Herd 4' iso image Live CD (have also tried the daily 
build 2/24), for "Testing".

Reading the wiki page 'ubuntu.com/testing/herd4' section "Reporting Bugs & 
Testing" included below. The "[Testing]" link appears to be broken, leaving me 
wondering what process to follow. The section also refers to 'report bugs 
through Malone', while the next paragraph states 'the Bug Squad team in 
Launchpad'. After further reading I believe the correct process to report bugs 
is via Malone!?
Feisty Fawn has bugs! (I bet you're not surprised). Your comments, bug reports, 
patches and suggestions will help fix bugs and improve future releases. After 
reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs please report bugs 
through Malone. 
If you want to help out with those bugs, the Bug Squad team in Launchpad is 
always looking for help. 
If you plan to do an installation of Feisty Herd 4, be sure to head to 
[Testing]. With just a few minutes of time at your hands, you can really help 
to improve Ubuntu. We have two different tests; one takes just a short while, 
but the other is more thorough. 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current - Simply note how your installation 
went 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Short - the short test 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Long - the longer test 
Reading the wiki page 'ubuntu.com/testing/head4' section "Feedback" included 
below, refers to 'using any of the other methods on the Ubuntu Marketing Team 
wiki page' which is not linked, nor obviously identifiable within the wiki.
This document is maintained by the Ubuntu Marketing Team. Please feel free to 
contact us regarding any concerns or suggestions by either sending an email to  
ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com or by using any of the other methods on the 
Ubuntu Marketing Team wiki page. 
In reference to #1 above. I follow the link 
'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current' to note how my installation went, and 
am refered immediately under the "ISO Testing" section to another process. 
Therefore I read the section 'Testing/ReportingResults' before proceeding to 
Malone.
Test results are no longer tracked on this page but instead with the  
ubuntu-iso-tests product in Malone. Read  Testing/ReportingResults for 
instructions on using the new tracking system. See the overview of Install 
Methods.
In reference to #3 above. After following the link to 
'Testing/ReportingResults', and following/verifying the download of my CD, the 
instructions listed below provide a link to connect you to a "test tracking 
page" which contains no results, other than a sample (what's up?).
Make sure that the build number (like 20070107.1) matches the test number 
listed on the  test tracking page! Then: Check the md5sum! To check the md5sum 
of your image, open a terminal and write:
After all my reading, I'm not sure where to enter either: the results of my 
experience with the "Feisty" Live/CD; or to enter what appears to be a simple 
small bug with Feisty's new udev rules.
I have plans to test install this platform, on three machines (Desktop with 
PDA, firewall, and Laptop), but these tests will prove useless if I cannot 
report the results/issues/bugs encountered.
If you could so kindly provide me with directions, for the current process: of 
reporting test usage of LiveCD, HD installs; and detail process/methods for bug 
reporting it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?

2007-03-02 Thread Matthew Revell
Hey Adam,

On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:17 -0500, Adam wrote:
> We were just talking about this in IRC and I was advised
> (sarcastically) to bring my idea forward on the mailing list.  The UWN
> has stagnated and frankly the form in which it was presented is an
> out-dated model.

I think it would be a shame to lose UWN because we feel its delivery
method isn't fashionable. If we feel its content can be better handled,
say as ad-hoc posts, then that's certainly a good discussion to have.

>   I want to propose we move to a more "social" solution, that allows
> for more community involvement.  A forum post weekly would be
> sufficient, but I'm more in favor of a blog-style solution.  

I'm not sure what you mean by a more social solution. UWN is edited on a
wiki - the most collaborative way possible, without getting into real
time collaborative editing. I think replacing UWN by email with a forum
post would be a mistake. UWN is currently pushed to people, a forum post
requires people to go find it.

> The benefits of the blog style solution are obvious: 
>   * The news is delivered as it happens, in an editorial format
> that is interesting to users. 
>   * Users are able to comment and give feed back on individual
> editorials
>   * Users are able to add to the editorial themselves through a
> comment solution.
>   * RSS allows this "news letter" to be delivered directly to
> anyone who has subscribed to it.

I think this is more an argument to rethink The Fridge, than to ditch
UWN. I've been out of touch lately, but I'm willing to bet there'd be a
fair bit of support for integrating The Fridge fully with the marketing
team. That way, The Fridge isn't at the mercy of an exclusive coterie of
editors.

UWN, however it's delivered, can still have a place, I think. Some
people may not want to track a blog but enjoy receiving a weekly digest.
It's good to work out why UWN exists and who its for.

> I feel that ideal sites for this would be wordpress or Blogger.com
> (blogger may be easier to set up).  What do you guys think? 

As others have said, we don't need another site. Let's make the most of
what we have. Let's have a debate about what the Fridge is for, what UWN
is for and how we should move them forward.

I've been concentrating on Launchpad for the past few months, so I've
neglected the Fridge lately. It's an important barometer of the Ubuntu
community, though, and we shouldn't let it go through these
active-fallow cycles.

So, if the marketing team does take over the Fridge, we'd need to work
out how to decide who gets to be an editor, etc and what content we want
it to have. Once that's sorted, it's just a matter of switching
discussion to this list, rather than the close fridge-devel list.

Any thoughts?

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[ubuntu-marketing] Screenshot of my desktop used in http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4 does not depict VMI

2007-03-02 Thread Mike MacCana
Hi,

The screenshot of my desktop (uploaded to the wiki as part of my QEmu
tutorial), called QEmuSmall, is being used to illustrate VMI support in
Feisty Herd 4.

It doesn't illustrate VMware (it's using QEmu) nor VMI support (which
would be used to virtualize Ubuntu, not Windows).

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?

2007-03-02 Thread Adam

I'm not sure what you mean by a more social solution. UWN is edited on a

wiki - the most collaborative way possible, without getting into real
time collaborative editing. I think replacing UWN by email with a forum
post would be a mistake. UWN is currently pushed to people, a forum post
requires people to go find it.



I don't mean social as in collaborative, I'm sorry for the confusion.  I
meant social as in allowing for user feedback and discussion.

I think this is more an argument to rethink The Fridge, than to ditch

UWN. I've been out of touch lately, but I'm willing to bet there'd be a
fair bit of support for integrating The Fridge fully with the marketing
team. That way, The Fridge isn't at the mercy of an exclusive coterie of
editors.



I would support this, if we were allowed to post editorial style posts
concerning the news.

UWN, however it's delivered, can still have a place, I think. Some

people may not want to track a blog but enjoy receiving a weekly digest.
It's good to work out why UWN exists and who its for.

As others have said, we don't need another site. Let's make the most of
what we have. Let's have a debate about what the Fridge is for, what UWN
is for and how we should move them forward.



I'm sure creating a weekly digest of posts from the fridge would hardly be
difficult.



So, if the marketing team does take over the Fridge, we'd need to work
out how to decide who gets to be an editor, etc and what content we want
it to have. Once that's sorted, it's just a matter of switching
discussion to this list, rather than the close fridge-devel list.

Any thoughts?



Anyone who shows the ability to write a decent article should be allowed to
write for the fridge.  If need be posts to the fridge could require
moderation from a specific group before they were allowed to go public.
This would ensure "quality control".  Anyone who maintains a decent blog is
probably a good candidate for writing for the fridge in this fashion.


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[ubuntu-marketing] Introducing me - Rolando Blanco

2007-03-02 Thread Rolando F. Blanco C:.
Hi, 

I to all again, My name is Rolando Blanco, I'm the Contact & Leader in
the VenezuelaTeam (Ubuntu-ve). How I leave the Spanish Translators Team,
then I was looking around the Wiki, since found the Marketing Group.

Let me tell you that I'm ready to help in all than I can.

Thanks!

P.D:.I know that me English is not the best, please sorry me ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release

2007-03-02 Thread Adam

On 3/2/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Jono,
If you're thinking "big splash" then why not make one?  There are
plenty of sites that receive a lot of traffic that would be willing to post
about this.  Basic "ad campaign" material could be made available for the
community to distribute (pre-written forum posts complete with links and
pictures), graphic ads could be placed on popular yet open source friendly
web sites, etc.  Quality video adverts on sites like YouTube would probably
get a lot of attention, etc.  Just throwing around some ideas.


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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release

2007-03-02 Thread Jono Bacon
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 08:27 +, Nicholas Castilla wrote:
> I would definetly support the idea of placing Ubuntu in PC's in a
> store, this wouldn't cost to much money eiether.

I think its an interesting advocacy approach, slightly guerilla, but it
does not turn heads for a new release. I am mainly thinking of a big
splash, things that really get noticed. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release

2007-03-02 Thread Jono Bacon
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 19:24 +, Nicholas Castilla wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Maybe a "Look what Ubuntu did for me" competition will be interesting,
> Jono i think your ideas anyway are very good. I would like to see
> though a bit of press action, especially with CNET.

I think much of the aim of this is to do stuff so amazingly interesting
that local press pick up on it as well as wider press. Mind you, it all
needs to be legal. Don't want "UBUNTU USER ARRESTED FOR CREATING HUGE
FIRE THAT LOOKS FEISTY".

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release

2007-03-02 Thread Nicholas Castilla
I would definetly support the idea of placing Ubuntu in PC's in a
store, this wouldn't cost to much money eiether.

Nick.

On 01/03/07, Anthony Yarusso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jono Bacon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some
> > ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way.
> > The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention
> > grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community
> > but also mark a new Ubuntu release.
> >
> > There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers:
> >
> >  * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a
> > picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different
> > situations and scenarios.
> >
> >  * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community
> > to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they
> > can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so
> > long as the core aspects of the logo are present.
> >
> > I just wanted to get your thoughts and ideas. :)
> >
> > Jono
> >
> Another idea (albeit an at times controversial one) is doing some
> well-placed PC-Jacking.  What this is essentially is bringing a few
> Live CDs into a store that sells computers, pop them in the CD-ROM
> drives of any computers that have the drive accessible, reboot, and
> walk away.  If you wish, optionally stick around and photograph
> customers' intrigue at an unusual desktop.  It's also a good idea to
> leave a short explanation, either as a pamphlet or written directly on
> the disk, so both interested people know what this is about, and store
> staff when they (eventually) find it know that it's not actually
> breaking the hardware.  A short stack of CDs to take with and a few
> pamphlets (like mine that was handed out at the recent Ubuntu
> Canada-Toronto marketing event) are a great idea if you have the
> funds.  I made a page on the wiki for brainstorming along these lines
> for anyone interested - all I ask is that of course all such efforts
> be kept peaceful and reasonable, as we're merely spreading awareness,
> not seeking some sort of revenge or whatever.  For reference and your
> thoughts, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PCJacking .
>
> Tony
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