Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team Announcement

[Paul Bartell]

I think that would be a great idea. Perhaps, have some sort of
training for sales associates. Or even, have some flyers by the
computers for sale explaining all the differences, adn that there is
an open source alternative to almost everything..

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:56 AM, John Vilsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree that this is an issue, but a solution is available.
>
> The only way we are going to see penetration into the consumer market in
> which sales representatives are able to help customers make informed
> decisions is through user education.  There are many aspects of the movement
> Ubuntu is involved in that we all take for granted.  Even your average "Mom
> & Pop" stores would only be able to sell these based on their own
> experiences with the community and the software itself.
>
> I believe that generating some sort of documentation that training teams
> could glean information from would allow us to either develop a relationship
> with organizations that train their employees or perhaps directly with the
> employees themselves.  We could design it in a philosophy similar to Ubuntu:
> clean, easy to understand, and accessible to everyone.
>
> The more easy-to-use, bulleted documentation we can provide, the faster we
> can get people on board to evangelize the product.  I would even go so far
> as to recommend obtaining a new URL like sellingubuntu.com so that companies
> can find it even easier. We could even offer contact information to
> interface directly with those who are trying to understand how to sell the
> idea of Ubuntu to others (in a more finite environment than say the forums
> or a mailing list).
>
> Does anyone feel this is a good/bad idea?
>
> Thank you for listening,
> John Vilsack
>
>
> PS:  This is my first contribution to the marketing team. I hope to
> contribute in any way that I can!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Nick Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Danny Piccirillo
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > We are organizing a letter writing and calling campaign to get Ubuntu in
> > > Stores. Please read "The Final Push: Linux in Stores" and Digg it!
> >
> > I find it interesting that you have Walmart listed in the
> > UbuntuInStores wiki page. They already made an attempt with the Everex
> > gOS machines.
> >
> > And have pulled them from their stores already. Maybe they are still
> > being sold online.
> >
> > IMO, this is why it won't work anytime in the near future, at least in
> > the US: "Staff will have to know about free software and Linux, so
> > customers will no longer be kept in the dark." Companies like Walmart
> > will never spend money educating/training their employees.
> >
> > I remember reading some article where the reporter interviewed a
> > Walmart employee about the gOS machines. The employee said he didn't
> > know much about the computers, but warned customers they don't run
> > Windows applications.
> >
> > Mom and Pop stores may be a better target.
> >
> > nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team Announcement

[John Vilsack]

I agree that this is an issue, but a solution is available.

The only way we are going to see penetration into the consumer market in
which sales representatives are able to help customers make informed
decisions is through user education.  There are many aspects of the movement
Ubuntu is involved in that we all take for granted.  Even your average "Mom
& Pop" stores would only be able to sell these based on their own
experiences with the community and the software itself.

I believe that generating some sort of documentation that training teams
could glean information from would allow us to either develop a relationship
with organizations that train their employees or perhaps directly with the
employees themselves.  We could design it in a philosophy similar to
Ubuntu:  clean, easy to understand, and accessible to everyone.

The more easy-to-use, bulleted documentation we can provide, the faster we
can get people on board to evangelize the product.  I would even go so far
as to recommend obtaining a new URL like sellingubuntu.com so that companies
can find it even easier. We could even offer contact information to
interface directly with those who are trying to understand how to sell the
idea of Ubuntu to others (in a more finite environment than say the forums
or a mailing list).

Does anyone feel this is a good/bad idea?

Thank you for listening,
John Vilsack


PS:  This is my first contribution to the marketing team. I hope to
contribute in any way that I can!








On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Nick Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Danny Piccirillo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We are organizing a letter writing and calling campaign to get Ubuntu in
> > Stores. Please read "The Final Push: Linux in Stores" and Digg it!
>
> I find it interesting that you have Walmart listed in the
> UbuntuInStores wiki page. They already made an attempt with the Everex
> gOS machines.
>
> And have pulled them from their stores already. Maybe they are still
> being sold online.
>
> IMO, this is why it won't work anytime in the near future, at least in
> the US: "Staff will have to know about free software and Linux, so
> customers will no longer be kept in the dark." Companies like Walmart
> will never spend money educating/training their employees.
>
> I remember reading some article where the reporter interviewed a
> Walmart employee about the gOS machines. The employee said he didn't
> know much about the computers, but warned customers they don't run
> Windows applications.
>
> Mom and Pop stores may be a better target.
>
> nick
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://boredandblogging.com
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[ubuntu-marketing] Help needed for release notes for Hardy Release Candidate

[Steve Langasek]

Hi folks,

The Hardy Release Candidate is due out this Thursday, so yet again we need a
web page, similar to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta but
incorporating the changes between beta and RC.  Can someone here take care
of preparing this?

A wiki version of the Hardy Beta page that you can draw from is available
at 
().  Please use
 as a staging area for this work.

Thanks,
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