Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Firefox EULA
Alan Lord wrote: > Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: > >> Please keep the discussion on this topic on one mailing list. The >> discussion is already in ubuntu-devel-discuss so I strongly suggest >> everyone to move there. > > I agree for the purposes of discussing the particular issue. > > As this is a marketing list however, and clearly several people here > were not aware of the controversy, I thought it made sense to ensure > that the marketing team at least knew about it. > > I was not expecting the discussion to actually take place here ;-) I spend most of my waking life 'marketing' ubuntu, and the fact that firefox might be so blatantly intrusive may significantly affect my conversations. In fact if it is not resolved elegantly, it is possible it would significantly dampen my own enthusiasm for my ubuntu choice. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Firefox EULA
> As already noted earlier, this is a marketing list, the discussion > shouldn't happen here. Actually, I think part of that discussion does need to happen here. Let's assume worst case scenario; Firefox ends up with a giant end user license agreement on first run but continues as default. Any marketing material that describes Firefox's (or all main repo's software) as available free of charge to Anyone should be changed or we risk sounding dishonest. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Firefox EULA
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: > Please keep the discussion on this topic on one mailing list. The > discussion is already in ubuntu-devel-discuss so I strongly suggest > everyone to move there. I agree for the purposes of discussing the particular issue. As this is a marketing list however, and clearly several people here were not aware of the controversy, I thought it made sense to ensure that the marketing team at least knew about it. I was not expecting the discussion to actually take place here ;-) Cheers Alan -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] use of Launchpad mailing list
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Rubén Romero y Cordero > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Matthew East wrote: I noticed recently that there is a ~spreadubuntu team in Launchpad with its own mailing list. >> >> SpreadUbuntu is to be understood as a subteam of the marketing >> team, but also as a *normal* opensource project in the sense that we >> plan coding and using branches extensively. The marketing-team list is >> a discussion list, while the SU list will be more of a technical type >> of list to discuss what we want into the project and eventually >> technical >> details about our code. > > I don't think that distinction is significant enough to warrant a > separate list. In particular, the marketing team mailing list is > *exactly* the right place to discuss what the team wants from the > spreadubuntu project. In fact, discussing those details elsewhere is > simply inviting fragmentation within the marketing team. > > The spreadubuntu project, if done properly, could be a good way to > focus the marketing team on getting some work done. It falls directly > and squarely within the marketing team's competence and goals. > Of course we plan on engaging the Marketing Team at a later stage, but first we must have a technical platform and that is what this project is all about. We have invited interested people within the Marketing Team to join our subgroup; there's no clash of interest here. Now If this is such a big deal we can either move to the m-t list and discuss details on SU. I would like to know if it is ok for the SU team and the Marketing Team that we move our activities to the marketing-team list. If it's ok I, for one, will have no problem on doing so. I just do not want to fill the list with technical details. It's generally desirable for projects in the Ubuntu community to use an existing list rather than begin a new one. Further, as you may know, we prefer that recognised projects use Ubuntu mailing lists at this time, rather than Launchpad mailing lists: >> >> I did notice this, but as much as we are part of the ubuntu community >> we need a channel of communication as an open source project as such, >> more than as a discussing team/subgroup within another team. > > You've missed my point here. New projects in the ubuntu community, as > the page I quoted makes clear, should request mailing lists on > lists.ubuntu.com and not on Launchpad. In this case, I think the > spreadubuntu list was probably created before that policy was properly > communicated to the Launchpad mailing list administrators, so that's > the reason the list was approved. But in any event the main point I > want to make is that it shouldn't be required at all. As mentioned above I believe the list might be necessary, but it doesn't have to be if people is ok with us using the marketing-team mailing list. What do people have to say? And I am thinking foremost users of both list and team members feedback. > > -- > Matthew East > http://www.mdke.org > gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF > regards, Rubén. https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] use of Launchpad mailing list
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Rubén Romero y Cordero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Matthew East wrote: >>> >>> I noticed recently that there is a ~spreadubuntu team in Launchpad >>> with its own mailing list. > > SpreadUbuntu is to be understood as a subteam of the marketing > team, but also as a *normal* opensource project in the sense that we > plan coding and using branches extensively. The marketing-team list is > a discussion list, while the SU list will be more of a technical type > of list to discuss what we want into the project and eventually > technical > details about our code. I don't think that distinction is significant enough to warrant a separate list. In particular, the marketing team mailing list is *exactly* the right place to discuss what the team wants from the spreadubuntu project. In fact, discussing those details elsewhere is simply inviting fragmentation within the marketing team. The spreadubuntu project, if done properly, could be a good way to focus the marketing team on getting some work done. It falls directly and squarely within the marketing team's competence and goals. >>> It's generally desirable for projects in the Ubuntu community to use >>> an existing list rather than begin a new one. Further, as you may >>> know, we prefer that recognised projects use Ubuntu mailing lists at >>> this time, rather than Launchpad mailing lists: >>> > > I did notice this, but as much as we are part of the ubuntu community > we need a channel of communication as an open source project as such, > more than as a discussing team/subgroup within another team. You've missed my point here. New projects in the ubuntu community, as the page I quoted makes clear, should request mailing lists on lists.ubuntu.com and not on Launchpad. In this case, I think the spreadubuntu list was probably created before that policy was properly communicated to the Launchpad mailing list administrators, so that's the reason the list was approved. But in any event the main point I want to make is that it shouldn't be required at all. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
