Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Owens
I think it's awesome,

I was inspired to have a play with some graphics:

http://imagebin.ca/view/7W26EJu.html

Martin,

On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 00:30 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote:
 
 If we give it the final push it might set the basis for the marketing
 campaign. What do you all think? 


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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread Mike Feravolo
We were thinking that since people don't understand they are paying for 
an operating system when they buy a new computer, maybe we should 
consider targeting independent system builders (if there are any still 
in business).

As a software consultant the last thing that I want to do is build 
hardware, but the key to the Microsoft's success in the software 
business is that they managed to get Windows installed at the factory on 
95% of all the systems on the retail shelf.

Obviously hardware is also the key to Apple's success, because they 
follow more of the 1950's-1980's IBM business model of you get most of 
the software that you need,  as long as you buy the hardware.  They also 
have a large user base of expensive specialized third party professional 
software products and open source applications like Open Office and 
Firefox.

Would more people would be using Linux, if there where better retail 
distribution channels for Ubuntu based systems ?

Mike F.
Cocoa Beach, FL

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Ross
 The graphic is very cool! I especially like the one on the bottom.

One suggestion though: colours. Orange is more appropriate colour in
this case than purple as the marketing effort is community-based and
orange is the official community colour.

Cheers,
Randall

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On 10-08-29 12:12 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
 I think it's awesome,

 I was inspired to have a play with some graphics:

 http://imagebin.ca/view/7W26EJu.html

 Martin,

 On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 00:30 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote:
 If we give it the final push it might set the basis for the marketing
 campaign. What do you all think? 



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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread C. F. Howlett
Here's what I think:
http://watchboratonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/borat-high-five.jpg

On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 03:12 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
 I think it's awesome,
 
 I was inspired to have a play with some graphics:
 
 http://imagebin.ca/view/7W26EJu.html
 
 Martin,
 
 On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 00:30 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote:
  
  If we give it the final push it might set the basis for the marketing
  campaign. What do you all think? 
 



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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread alan c
On 29/08/10 17:40, Mike Feravolo wrote:

 the key to the Microsoft's success in the software
 business is that they managed to get Windows installed at the factory on
 95% of all the systems on the retail shelf.

Well said indeed!

Some attention to leverage at the supply end would be very helpful. 
There is a lot to learn.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Ross
 Is this not happening? Canonical *does* have a whole OEM group who has
the responsibility to get Ubuntu factory-installed.

 Some attention to leverage at the supply end would be very helpful. 
 There is a lot to learn.




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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread alan c
On 29/08/10 22:36, Randall Ross wrote:
   Is this not happening? Canonical *does* have a whole OEM group who has
 the responsibility to get Ubuntu factory-installed.

  Some attention to leverage at the supply end would be very helpful.
  There is a lot to learn.

Hopefully yes, although I guess it is mostly under commercial 
sensitivity wraps, but how can -we- assist in this?

Almost all of the discussion I see  - everywhere - is about technical, 
usability, security, cost, how to this and how to that, etc. All these 
discussion points are important, as is the valued objective of freedom.

However, the overwhelming factor which WE are distracted from is that 
even when an OS is poor quality and unpopular, it still SELLS in 
millions because it is forcibly installed on almost all hardware.

Along with other factors which we are familiar with, let us also 
consider the elephant in the room. Installation monopoly.
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Defining targets

2010-08-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 29 August 2010 23:36, Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es wrote:
  Is this not happening? Canonical *does* have a whole OEM group who has
 the responsibility to get Ubuntu factory-installed.

I agree. Mark Shuttleworth has talked about focusing on Ubuntu as a
preinstalled dualboot system with OEMs. This is a very good idea, I
think. I really don't like the old car/computing comparisons, but in
this case I can't help myself. Selling hybrid cars that run on both
fossile fuel and electricity is much easier than selling electric
cars. I believe that it's easier for us to get a foot in if we focus
on dualboot systems. This thread is about defining targets, and I feel
we're drifting slightly off topic. We should certainly help Canonical
in any way we can. However, I don't think strategic partnering with
OEMs should be the responsibility of the marketing team. This would be
much more KAM than marketing.

But there is a point here. Those who're just interested in using
Ubuntu to promote their sales, or create innovative products, should
definitely be a well defined target. Perhaps we'd be wise to split the
targets into a set of b2b, b2c and c2c groups.

Jo-Erlend

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
It looks fantastic, my question is, where would we put that image? and also
where would be the link to the MK page?

Maybe we could make a little banner, image or whatever to the pledge in each
team's page, just that image and some text.



2010/8/29 C. F. Howlett seattlec...@gmail.com

 Here's what I think:
 http://watchboratonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/borat-high-five.jpg

 On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 03:12 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
  I think it's awesome,
 
  I was inspired to have a play with some graphics:
 
  http://imagebin.ca/view/7W26EJu.html
 
  Martin,
 
  On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 00:30 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote:
  
   If we give it the final push it might set the basis for the marketing
   campaign. What do you all think?
 





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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread Martin Owens
I put a new image on the page:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/marketing/guidelines

Martin,

On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 00:34 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote:
 It looks fantastic, my question is, where would we put that image? and
 also where would be the link to the MK page? 
 
 Maybe we could make a little banner, image or whatever to the pledge
 in each team's page, just that image and some text. 


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