[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Epic93dude
Hi Ubuntu-Marketing. I ama a student at a small high school in Southwest  
Missouri. Recently we had an assignment in a class where we had to give a  
presentation on a group/organization/movement. I chose to give my  
presentation on Ubuntu. I explained what an operating system was, then what  
open source software was. I explained how the open source community worked  
and why Open Source Software tends to be more secure, faster, and easier to  
use than Proprietary Software, and how these benefits were present in  
Ubuntu, in a way that the average computer user could understand. I also  
demonstrated some programs that come with Ubuntu and how they could do many  
of the tasks just as well or sometimes better than their Proprietary  
counterparts.


The response was great. Several students were interested in learning more  
about Ubuntu and OSS after I gave the presentation. The school's principal,  
who also happened to be there during the presentation, was also interested  
in Ubuntu as well as the applications that I showed. I think that there is  
an opportunity of some kind here to get OSS in use at my school, because  
the students, teacher (of the class I gave the presentation in), and  
principal all seemed to be open towards the concept of free software.


What I want to do is get my school to at least try Ubuntu out in one of the  
computer labs or something like that. I think if I could demonstrate that  
it is a viable alternative to Microsoft Windows + Office, which is what we  
currently use on all our computers, would save decent amounts of money, and  
would give access to some pretty amazing educational programs (The periodic  
table of elements program immediately comes to mind), they would be willing  
to try it.


That being said, I need to be able to convince the IT staff that it would  
be easy to learn, easier to manage than Windows Server Edition (Which is  
what we use), and compatible with the current infrastructure that we have.  
If I can do that, plus convince the administration that we would save costs  
etc., I think they would consider trying it out, or even switching over  
entirely.


Can you guys help me with this (especially the convincing the IT staff  
part) ?
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Linden
May I ask how old are you and in what grade?

You have done very well for doing what you have done. Sadly I am not
sure how much we can do as we are all over the world/country and not one
of us live close to you. Well one of may or may not. But what could be
done would be the following

Get a hold of your state team leader (or leaders) as for some Ubuntu
documents to be set to you you state team may even come out to help you
out as a whole (that is why the state/city teams where made)

If your state team is not active then let us know and we can try to get
you the Ubuntu documents side shows and all of that goodies...all of
that work has pretty much been done we just need to get it into your
hands!

Stephan Harz 
DFW Team Leader

On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 16:53 +, epic93d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ubuntu-Marketing. I ama a student at a small high school in
 Southwest Missouri. Recently we had an assignment in a class where we
 had to give a presentation on a group/organization/movement. I chose
 to give my presentation on Ubuntu. I explained what an operating
 system was, then what open source software was. I explained how the
 open source community worked and why Open Source Software tends to be
 more secure, faster, and easier to use than Proprietary Software, and
 how these benefits were present in Ubuntu, in a way that the average
 computer user could understand. I also demonstrated some programs that
 come with Ubuntu and how they could do many of the tasks just as well
 or sometimes better than their Proprietary counterparts. 
 
 The response was great. Several students were interested in learning
 more about Ubuntu and OSS after I gave the presentation. The school's
 principal, who also happened to be there during the presentation, was
 also interested in Ubuntu as well as the applications that I showed. I
 think that there is an opportunity of some kind here to get OSS in use
 at my school, because the students, teacher (of the class I gave the
 presentation in), and principal all seemed to be open towards the
 concept of free software. 
 
 What I want to do is get my school to at least try Ubuntu out in one
 of the computer labs or something like that. I think if I could
 demonstrate that it is a viable alternative to Microsoft Windows +
 Office, which is what we currently use on all our computers, would
 save decent amounts of money, and would give access to some pretty
 amazing educational programs (The periodic table of elements program
 immediately comes to mind), they would be willing to try it. 
 
 That being said, I need to be able to convince the IT staff that it
 would be easy to learn, easier to manage than Windows Server Edition
 (Which is what we use), and compatible with the current infrastructure
 that we have. If I can do that, plus convince the administration that
 we would save costs etc., I think they would consider trying it out,
 or even switching over entirely. 
 
 Can you guys help me with this (especially the convincing the IT staff
 part) ?



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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM,  epic93d...@gmail.com wrote:
 That being said, I need to be able to convince the IT staff that it would be
 easy to learn, easier to manage than Windows Server Edition (Which is what
 we use), and compatible with the current infrastructure that we have. If I
 can do that, plus convince the administration that we would save costs etc.,
 I think they would consider trying it out, or even switching over entirely.

 Can you guys help me with this (especially the convincing the IT staff part)
 ?

How exciting!

I'm currently volunteering at a non-profit that deploys Ubuntu in
schools and Canonical has been working on some marketing materials
they'll be releasing soon on the same subject.

I'd suggest you hop on the ubuntu-education list where we swap tips
about our deployments. It's kinda a quiet list sometimes, but emails
are always welcome! You might even want to repeat this email over
there):

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-education

You may also want to check out this wiki page, which lists a number of
current deployments and links to some of their resources:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Education/UbuntuSchools

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 13 October 2010 18:53,  epic93d...@gmail.com wrote:
 What I want to do is get my school to at least try Ubuntu out in one of the
 computer labs or something like that. I think if I could demonstrate that it
 is a viable alternative to Microsoft Windows + Office, which is what we
 currently use on all our computers, would save decent amounts of money, and
 would give access to some pretty amazing educational programs (The periodic
 table of elements program immediately comes to mind), they would be willing
 to try it.

You should read this interview about the experiences the French police
had when they began to switch from Windows to Ubuntu. You should
probably forward it to the IT staff in your school as well. Practical
examples are always good.


 That being said, I need to be able to convince the IT staff that it would be
 easy to learn, easier to manage than Windows Server Edition (Which is what
 we use), and compatible with the current infrastructure that we have. If I
 can do that, plus convince the administration that we would save costs etc.,
 I think they would consider trying it out, or even switching over entirely.

You probably wouldn't want to switch to Ubuntu on the server side
right away. The Ubuntu desktop fits nicely into a Windows network,
using tools like Likewise Open.
http://www.likewise.com/products/likewise_open/

Some key points:

1) You do not have to change the infrastructure. The Windows Server
will do nicely and Ubuntu plays well with Windows.
2) You do not have to _choose_ Ubuntu. You can have both, or you can
just try with no consequences.
3) Much of the software is cross platform, so you can make the
transition a very smooth experience. If you first change browser to
Firefox, Office to Openoffice.org, etc, then switching to Ubuntu will
be easy.

I hope this helps, and I'd be very interested to know your progress.
Keep up the good work! :)

Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
It seems that I forgot to paste that link. Sorry. Here it is (:
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/french-police-saves-millions-of-euros-by-adopting-ubuntu.ars

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Akshat Jain
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:23 PM, epic93d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ubuntu-Marketing. I ama a student at a small high school in Southwest
 Missouri. Recently we had an assignment in a class where we had to give a
 presentation on a group/organization/movement. I chose to give my
 presentation on Ubuntu. I explained what an operating system was, then what
 open source software was. I explained how the open source community worked
 and why Open Source Software tends to be more secure, faster, and easier to
 use than Proprietary Software, and how these benefits were present in
 Ubuntu, in a way that the average computer user could understand. I also
 demonstrated some programs that come with Ubuntu and how they could do many
 of the tasks just as well or sometimes better than their Proprietary
 counterparts.

 The response was great. Several students were interested in learning more
 about Ubuntu and OSS after I gave the presentation. The school's principal,
 who also happened to be there during the presentation, was also interested
 in Ubuntu as well as the applications that I showed. I think that there is
 an opportunity of some kind here to get OSS in use at my school, because the
 students, teacher (of the class I gave the presentation in), and principal
 all seemed to be open towards the concept of free software.

 What I want to do is get my school to at least try Ubuntu out in one of the
 computer labs or something like that. I think if I could demonstrate that it
 is a viable alternative to Microsoft Windows + Office, which is what we
 currently use on all our computers, would save decent amounts of money, and
 would give access to some pretty amazing educational programs (The periodic
 table of elements program immediately comes to mind), they would be willing
 to try it.

 That being said, I need to be able to convince the IT staff that it would
 be easy to learn, easier to manage than Windows Server Edition (Which is
 what we use), and compatible with the current infrastructure that we have.
 If I can do that, plus convince the administration that we would save costs
 etc., I think they would consider trying it out, or even switching over
 entirely.

 Can you guys help me with this (especially the convincing the IT staff
 part) ?
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Akshat Jain
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Akshat Jain ssj6akshat1...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:23 PM, epic93d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ubuntu-Marketing. I ama a student at a small high school in Southwest
 Missouri. Recently we had an assignment in a class where we had to give a
 presentation on a group/organization/movement. I chose to give my
 presentation on Ubuntu. I explained what an operating system was, then what
 open source software was. I explained how the open source community worked
 and why Open Source Software tends to be more secure, faster, and easier to
 use than Proprietary Software, and how these benefits were present in
 Ubuntu, in a way that the average computer user could understand. I also
 demonstrated some programs that come with Ubuntu and how they could do many
 of the tasks just as well or sometimes better than their Proprietary
 counterparts.

 The response was great. Several students were interested in learning more
 about Ubuntu and OSS after I gave the presentation. The school's principal,
 who also happened to be there during the presentation, was also interested
 in Ubuntu as well as the applications that I showed. I think that there is
 an opportunity of some kind here to get OSS in use at my school, because the
 students, teacher (of the class I gave the presentation in), and principal
 all seemed to be open towards the concept of free software.

 What I want to do is get my school to at least try Ubuntu out in one of
 the computer labs or something like that. I think if I could demonstrate
 that it is a viable alternative to Microsoft Windows + Office, which is what
 we currently use on all our computers, would save decent amounts of money,
 and would give access to some pretty amazing educational programs (The
 periodic table of elements program immediately comes to mind), they would be
 willing to try it.

 That being said, I need to be able to convince the IT staff that it would
 be easy to learn, easier to manage than Windows Server Edition (Which is
 what we use), and compatible with the current infrastructure that we have.
 If I can do that, plus convince the administration that we would save costs
 etc., I think they would consider trying it out, or even switching over
 entirely.

 Can you guys help me with this (especially the convincing the IT staff
 part) ?
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There is also a Ubuntu in Education session at 1700 UTC in Ubuntu Open
Weekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeekYou can also tell about Ubuntu One
and Software Center.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu for School

2010-10-13 Thread Paul Bartell
A big thing that the school techs will want to know about is how to
manage ubuntu systems.. In short, Most tech departments are
understaffed and don't really have the resources to implement
something that might save time and money in the long run because it is
such an up front investment of time. A good thing to do is to get the
administration on your side, but you also don't want to alienate the
school techs who will have to maintain these machines..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_configuration_management_software
is a good resource for some systems management stuff (can allow
updates of files, new applications to be added etc) also Likewise open
is a great way to authenticate with current windows domains...

Bottom line, dont be discouraged, because making something like this
happen takes time and effort, and some interesting negotiation skills.

Making ubuntu systems truly manageable centrally takes some work.
Windows server allows quite a bit of easy central configuration that
takes a lot more work to implement in a linux OS.

I wish you the best of luck.

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