Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Unified Ubuntu News Mailing List (Re: [Ubuntu-fridge] Action Requested: Fridge LP mailing lists)
+1 On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Jordan Mantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Albisetti wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally believe it's very important in Ubuntu to limit the number of lists as much as possible, and think that each group has enough to share with and learn from each other to justify a single list. Having a separate list just to discuss things like theming seems overkill to me. I fully agree with this, and was my main reason for trying to create a -news team. Stop duplicating efforts, centralize all news flow in one place, and share as much as possible. There is no question on this subject, we all agree on that. I just wanted to separate submission and working on news from the various technical/operational tasks we also do. In the end I guess I'm with Joey on this. I personally feel like using the LP list for fridge development discussion would be good but I don't want to stand in the way of progress so if people want a single list we can shut down the LP list too I guess. I've discussed this with Joey and we've formulated a plan to move this discussion forward. We propose to implement the specification described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuNews by shutting down the fridge-devel and marketing-team-submissions lists and transferring subscriptions to the new ubuntu-news-team list. I will liaise with Martin to make sure that this is as smooth as possible - it is key that we ensure that people accustomed to writing to the fridge-devel mailing list are inconvenienced as little as possible. I'm copying this email to the marketing team for their information. The debate among the Fridge team at the moment is whether a single list to discuss all news related issues will be satisfactory in circumstances where the Fridge team occasionally uses their mailing list to discuss specific technical issues relating to the UI. Joey and myself suggest that we proceed on the basis of the spec as it is now, and then after it has been in operation for a few weeks, reassess the position about whether a separate mailing list is necessary. That way we can debate to our hearts' content about this question, but the debate doesn't remain a blocker on the spec being progressed. I've updated the spec to reflect this. Please holler if you have any questions or objections. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- fridge-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/fridge-devel -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] ubuntu-news team
Ubuntu Member Hat Howdy, Vid Ayer wrote: Maybe -news team should be a sub-team of -marketing? I think news should be independent of marketing. Both are independent and exclusive fields even if information overlap occurs all the time. FWIW, I agree totally with this. The news team was rolled under the marketing team when it was created just to integrate it into the existing community structure at the time. At that point, there was also an active discussion about Ubuntu Mag so it seemed like the correct place to put it. /Ubuntu Member Hat signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Gaming on Ubuntu
For what it's worth, I'm a gamer. Brazil folks have done a great job with http://www.ubuntugames.org/ For me personally, Gaming in general (which includes OpenGL and all the supporting functions) is the one area where other operating systems have a substantial lead and user base over Linux. Jim H wrote: Hi all: Just wanted to thank you for Ubuntu and to make a suggestion. First of all, I am not a gamer. I know a lot of people who are but I am not one of them. After reading and hearing a lot of reasons why people don't switch over to Linux or Ubuntu, I came to the conclusion that Ubuntu needs to come up with a specific version just for gamers. Why not have a version that handles all of those games that people say run only on Microsoft systems and show them that they can run on Ubuntu. Start say with Xubuntu base and have the software detect and setup someones computer for graphics and processors and such right off of a clean setup. Use Wine or a version of vmware or something of that nature that can handle the games that are out there. Call it Gubuntu. I currently use Ubuntu for home and recently introduced a computer at work running pure Ubuntu. It has been a slight challenge but I really want it to work. Thanks for listening and I hope that this is a possiblity in the near future. Jim Harris signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] [Spec rosetta-stats-enhancement] Rosetta Statistics Enhancement for UWN
Specification changed by Joey Stanford: Whiteboard changed to: jjs: Ready for initial review -- Specification Details: Rosetta Statistics Enhancement for UWN https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-stats-enhancement -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] [Spec rosetta-stats-enhancement] Rosetta Statistics Enhancement for UWN
Specification changed by Joey Stanford: Definition Status: New = Review -- Specification Details: Rosetta Statistics Enhancement for UWN https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-stats-enhancement -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] [Spec ubuntumag-toc] Ubuntu Magazien table of contents
Specification changed by Joey Stanford: Definition Status: Discussion = Obsolete Whiteboard changed to: Abandoned -- Specification Details: Ubuntu Magazien table of contents https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-magazine/+spec/ubuntumag-toc -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Announcing the Unified Ubuntu Branding Project
Corey Burger wrote: So, in a word, no. It would be throwing away too much without clear gain. John, I hate to say it but I'd have to agree with Corey on this one. But, I have a spin. :-) I agree with Corey that we'd lose brand recognition so the icon rebranding (great icons by the way) I think is out. Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu are products, not sub-cats as you listed. The closest synonym would be Canonical - Ubuntu Canonical - Kubuntu Canonical - Xubuntu However I don't think this does them justice. Perhaps someone smarter than me can work on that structure more. I do agree with your observation that the project page difference in formating, site structure, content, etc. between the brands is very confusing. It would be very nice to maintain a sense of uniformity and cohesiveness between the main webpages. Ubuntu and Kubuntu share similar website features but, perhaps by design to allude to the simplistic interface, Xubuntu does not. I don't think there is any reason why the 3 brands/products cannot be drawn in close to these same basic visual structure from a project page perspective. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The Fridge needs you!
Count me in. I have some ideas on how to improve functionality. Matt, let's get a weekend irc meeting setup. :-) J Rich Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 25 July 2006 14:44, Matthew Revell wrote: Hello all, I've just joined the team of editors at The Fridge (fridge.ubuntu.com). Daniel Robitaille and Jorge O Castro have been asked to take The Fridge in hand and open it up to the community! Who could be better than the Ubuntu Marketing team? For now, it's business as usual. However, the future of The Fridge is in the community's hands. Reply to this thread if you're interested in getting involved! Also, it might be interesting to discuss what The Fridge's purpose should be and how it fits in with plans for Ubuntu Magazine. Look forward to hearing from you. -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk Matthew, AWESOME!!! Yesterday, myself and Jordan Mantha (LaserJock) were discussing the Fridge and how to make it better. Jordan and myself came up with many great ideas. If you would like to further discuss this with myself, or Jordan, we are always online, and Jordan is usually in #ubuntu-doc or #ubuntu-motu 99.9% of the time. I am very interested in helping out big time! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Repository for Marketing Team works
Greetings, My pref is the Ubuntu doc server but if that falls through, I can offer svn on any of my domains (about 20 gig left I think) or I can offer you some space on my private BZR server which is about 20 gig (same one hosting the Marketing Teams Gobby server). Joey Karl Goetz wrote: Jan Vancura wrote: That's my favourite type of response, Sara! :Þ Now as for repo type: I vouch for svn, to keep us all in sync, with commit access to all Project Leaders' disposal to give out as needed. (BTW: Be careful with giving out commit access, it's often better to have the leader put the stuff up than risking irresponsible changes in svn. It's always hard to take someone's access without insulting them). If you're uncomfortable with svn, I'll settle with ftp or shh as well, with the same rules there. Thanks, Jenda On one hand SVN has controlled access etc, but bzr (as i understand it) is the unofficially official source tracking tool. (i think it has better LP integration, but i cant vouch for that). Perhaps something to keep in mind? kk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Next Meeting
13:30 during a work day for me. Despite working for a linux friendly company, I'm not able to break free. Jan Vancura wrote: I propose the next MT meeting to be at 19:00 UTC, Thursday, July the 13th, 2006 on IRC in #ubuntu-meeting. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings for details, a-jenda, preferred meeting times etc. Open to discussion... Jenda signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] news article
Ubuntu overtakes Mac OS: http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/06/ubuntu_linux_a_threat_to_mac_o.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Launchpad bug tracking to track marketing issues
+1 This is how I coordinate my OOo team and it is very effective as long as the bug is assigned to a particular person. Team bugs also are very good because it helps derive an action item list. Joey Matthew Revell wrote: Does anyone have a view on using Launchpad's bug tracking to track the issues that the Marketing Team deals with? For example, I could create a bug now along the lines of: Ubuntu needs increased coverage in non-English media. It would help the non-coders amongst us to gain some Launchpad karma, but also may provide a useful way to integrate ourselves with the existing Ubuntu ways of working. Any thoughts? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Team Meeting Summary
So here is my beef at the end of a trying work day I get 5 minutes warning for the Community Council (which I was actually asleep when it happened) and now I'm ejected from the Marketing Team because the meeting was during my work time. I'm not feeling the love nor the new users are welcomed into the community like I've been pitching as part of my LOCO. Someone please fix my entry. Robert McWilliam wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:01:54 +0200 Jan Vancura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenda: I need you people's confirmation of the following step in this process. I'd like to email every person on the LP and wiki member lists, and remove all those who do not respond within... two weeks? a month? We currently have over 70 people on the LP list, and not 15 of them ever show up - which I think is worse than having no list at all. To avoid this for the times to come, I've set launchpad to give 30 day memberships the first time - which are given to anyone at all - and year long memberships to all who show at least some participation during those 30 days. Please don't. The idea of ejecting people from the community if they haven't met some minimum requirements of participation (no matter how low these are) is counter productive. It doesn't harm the team to have large numbers of people who read the mailing list, or have their names attached to the team, without ever posting, or contributing anything - they have shown an interest by putting their name on the list. It will harm the team if we are seen as demanding work from people or we delete them from the list. Please, please don't make the barrier to entry for the team any higher. We need all the help we can get and I don't think we should risk offending people by deleting them cause they haven't done enough - they might contribute in the future. Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com A morning without coffee is like something without something else. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Greetings
Greetings, New member signing in. :-) USA, Colorado I didn't realize we had a formal group. I moved 75% of my group here in Longmont and 100% of my OpenOffice team (http://eo.openoffice.org) over to Ubuntu. Glad to be amongst friends. Joey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
