Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 18:31 +0200, Simon Schneebeli wrote: It looks like 8pm CMT this Saturday is a moment that suits well for It's probably better to quote times in UTC, as most other teams do. It makes it a lot easier for people to translate because most people know their timezone relative to UTC. May I ask two questions: - Is there any (even inofficial) structure within the marketing community. I'd say that before electing anyone it would be a good idea to have a clear idea of a structure. I don't believe there is, no. - Is there an official liaison person who links to Canonical? (Or a Canonical person who links to this marketing community. Kat Kinnie and Gerry Carr work in Marketing at Canonical. I have found them to be very helpful when I've made requests in the past. - Does anyone have any document about the Canonical Marketing strategy. I mean something that says a bit more than just they're sending out CD. Don't forget that Canonical is a privately held limited company. Lets not set our expectations too high for what we as a community will get from them in the form of internal company strategies. We can of course ask one of the marketing people from Canonical to attend the next marketing team meeting, and ask them questions. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
Alan Pope wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 18:31 +0200, Simon Schneebeli wrote: It looks like 8pm CMT this Saturday is a moment that suits well for It's probably better to quote times in UTC, as most other teams do. It makes it a lot easier for people to translate because most people know their timezone relative to UTC. Sorry about that. I have do admet that I had until now no idea what UTC means. That's why I gave the link to the webpage http://doodle.ch/csunnbdekfr7c345 So as it looks, we'll have the chance to chat together this saturday, June 7 at 21h UTC. Regards Simon -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
Hello: I would be happy to contribute any way that I can to the the marketing team. The increase of traffic on the list is a good thing, people shouldn't be concerned if people talk about the same thing. They should just be glad that people are talking period. The success of this team depends on whether Canonical is going to back us or not. Right now they produce ton's of CD's and believe that all you have to do to sell Ubuntu is give them a CD and they will try it and what to make the switch. This method is fine if the only people you are marketing to are people with the technical know how to install an operating system. However for the other 99% of the people out there that use computers, they are afraid of the Live CD and don't try it at all. A more effective way to reach them is in print with information that makes them to use Ubuntu and seek out support. People in the support business will then support them. The marketing team should be ambassadors for Ubuntu and need the support of Canonical to make it work. Thank You Mike Feravolo -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
I respectfully disagree. THe point of the marketing is not to be the Ambassadors, our job is to manufacture and provide strategies to those that will evangelize the product. We may all be those same Ambassadors when not performing our undertaken responsibilities, but the two are seperate nonetheless. In a perfect scenario, I can see the newest Big Fan of Ubuntu coming across a page filled with our hard work in an easy to understand fashion. The prospective evangelist can download a paper to give to their boss to show why Linux is a smart choice for the business workplace, they can print out a rider brochure that users can give out with the Live CD, or they can download this month's newest meeting kit, with full instructions about how to start up a LoCo and how to reach other to other fans of Ubuntu. Ambassadors of Ubuntu are absolutely essential to the livelihood of the product. They should be considered our customers and our number one priority. If Canonical is able to collaborate with us to make sure we aren't repeating ourselves, then great. But we do not need them to accomplish these goals nor to satisfy any sort of budgetary needs we may have at this time. Thanks, John Vilsack On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I would be happy to contribute any way that I can to the the marketing team. The increase of traffic on the list is a good thing, people shouldn't be concerned if people talk about the same thing. They should just be glad that people are talking period. The success of this team depends on whether Canonical is going to back us or not. Right now they produce ton's of CD's and believe that all you have to do to sell Ubuntu is give them a CD and they will try it and what to make the switch. This method is fine if the only people you are marketing to are people with the technical know how to install an operating system. However for the other 99% of the people out there that use computers, they are afraid of the Live CD and don't try it at all. A more effective way to reach them is in print with information that makes them to use Ubuntu and seek out support. People in the support business will then support them. The marketing team should be ambassadors for Ubuntu and need the support of Canonical to make it work. Thank You Mike Feravolo -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- John Vilsack Network Administrator The-House.com 300 S Owasso Blvd E St. Paul, MN 55117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-house.com p. 651.482.9995 f. 651.482.1353 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
It looks like 8pm CMT this Saturday is a moment that suits well for quite a lot of people: To find out when this is in your time zone: http://doodle.ch/participation.html May I ask two questions: - Is there any (even inofficial) structure within the marketing community. I'd say that before electing anyone it would be a good idea to have a clear idea of a structure. I don't believe so. That is one of the things I am proposing to change though. - Is there an official liaison person who links to Canonical? (Or a Canonical person who links to this marketing community. I don't believe so. I have contacted their primary marketing contact, but have yet to hear back from them. - Does anyone have any document about the Canonical Marketing strategy. I mean something that says a bit more than just they're sending out CD. I don't believe so. I've scoured the sites and haven't found much of anything. Regardless, their plan seems to be more high level than grassroots. They provide a presence at trade shows, in the media, etc. whereas my hope is that we provide the metaphorical armaments for the average user to become an empowered evangelist. Sorry if these questions have been debated here previously. I'm still very now to this list. No worries, brother. I think many of us are new here and its good to see the enthusiasm being stirred up by the discussion! Thanks, John Vilsack Simon --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- John Vilsack wrote: I respectfully disagree. THe point of the marketing is not to be the Ambassadors, our job is to manufacture and provide strategies to those that will evangelize the product. We may all be those same Ambassadors when not performing our undertaken responsibilities, but the two are seperate nonetheless. In a perfect scenario, I can see the newest Big Fan of Ubuntu coming across a page filled with our hard work in an easy to understand fashion. The prospective evangelist can download a paper to give to their boss to show why Linux is a smart choice for the business workplace, they can print out a rider brochure that users can give out with the Live CD, or they can download this month's newest meeting kit, with full instructions about how to start up a LoCo and how to reach other to other fans of Ubuntu. Ambassadors of Ubuntu are absolutely essential to the livelihood of the product. They should be considered our customers and our number one priority. If Canonical is able to collaborate with us to make sure we aren't repeating ourselves, then great. But we do not need them to accomplish these goals nor to satisfy any sort of budgetary needs we may have at this time. Thanks, John Vilsack On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I would be happy to contribute any way that I can to the the marketing team. The increase of traffic on the list is a good thing, people shouldn't be concerned if people talk about the same thing. They should just be glad that people are talking period. The success of this team depends on whether Canonical is going to back us or not. Right now they produce ton's of CD's and believe that all you have to do to sell Ubuntu is give them a CD and they will try it and what to make the switch. This method is fine if the only people you are marketing to are people with the technical know how to install an operating system. However for the other 99% of the people out there that use computers, they are afraid of the Live CD and don't try it at all. A more effective way to reach them is in print with information that makes them to use Ubuntu and seek out support. People in the support business will then support them. The marketing team should be ambassadors for Ubuntu and need the support of Canonical to make it work. Thank You Mike Feravolo -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- John Vilsack Network Administrator The-House.com 300 S Owasso Blvd E St. Paul, MN 55117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-house.com p. 651.482.9995 f. 651.482.1353 -- John Vilsack Network Administrator The-House.com 300 S Owasso Blvd E St. Paul, MN 55117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-house.com p. 651.482.9995 f. 651.482.1353 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
John/Team, John Vilsack wrote: - Is there an official liaison person who links to Canonical? (Or a Canonical person who links to this marketing community. I don't believe so. I have contacted their primary marketing contact, but have yet to hear back from them. I wonder if Jono Bacon, Community Liaison Officer, might be a good person to speak to? Even if he's not the right person to ask, he can probably point us in the right direction. Cheers, JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
