Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you guys think? My general feeling is that the UWN was going along just fine for while. When I first started it it was worked on exclusively on the wiki and very quickly many people started to help out. It was great. The delivery methods (wiki, ubuntu-news, fridge, planet) worked well as this allowed many people to find it easily or get it emailed right to them. I don't think any issues with the UWN came from how it was being written or delivered. The people working on it seem to get really busy at times and it doesn't get done. I stopped having time for a while and it got picked up by Cory and others which was great to see. I think the main thing that we need to consider is getting a group of people who can consistently find time to work on it. When i still had time I had started a Ubuntu Newsletter team in launchpad and everything in a effort to start that process. Toward the end of this month I will likely have a fair bit of free time again and plan to get involved with UWN again. As much as I don't really like working on UWN in gobby (it raises the barrier a bit for people just getting started) I will leave that alone for now since its not really a big deal. At any rate I don't think that the UWN needs to be changed. It needs to actually be written each week. Written by a group of people with the time and dedication (collectively) to actually do it each and every week. It is a lot of work at times, I know. I think one area where we can focus some efforts is possibly developing tools to help the UWN authors aggregate the information that we use in the UWN such as -changes, -security, -announce, etc... Collecting and monitoring all the "news sources" was what I always found the most time consuming. If we can reduce the amount of work it takes to find the news, we can focus on creating the UWN itself. So in summary: * Do the work on the wiki since this (to me at least) seems easiest for anyone looking to contribute. (I understand the benefits of Gobby, although getting people to use it can be a hurdle. If they can just edit a wiki page that is much easier. This has been my experience at least.) * Get a team of people who actually have the time to write it each week. * Develop tools to aggregate the "news sources" so it is not so tedious. * Don't change the current delivery methods. Many people are happy with the current methods, when the UWN actually gets written. Adding other delivery methods is something to discuss, but don't get rid of the current methods. And as mdke mentioned. Let's not forget why the UWN was started. Its really meant sort of as a weekly progress report. This idea actually came from discussions with mdz, Jane and others inside Canonical including input from sabdlf. We should not loose focus of the original goals which still stand as far as I am know. Just my two cents. I will try and put my money where my mouth is and start helping out again consistently within the next few weeks as I start getting my free time back. Who else it willing to work on it consistently? I think that is the real issue. The fact that we are even having this discussion show there is obviously interest in keeping UWN going strong. It doesn't need to be changed. It needs some elbow grease and love. Matt -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 13:45 -0500, Adam wrote: > Anyone who shows the ability to write a decent article should be > allowed to write for the fridge. If need be posts to the fridge could > require moderation from a specific group before they were allowed to > go public. This would ensure "quality control". Anyone who maintains > a decent blog is probably a good candidate for writing for the fridge > in this fashion. This isn't something that requires a "rethink" of the Fridge. It's already the case. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge for how to contribute a story to the Fridge. Obviously, the Fridge is primarily a news site, so marketing stories are appropriate and welcome. However, it's not a blog, so in my view personal opinions are not appropriate. Matt -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On za, 2007-03-03 at 21:47 +1100, Melissa Draper wrote: > does anyone know if this has been backported or not, or if it was ever > suggested for such? http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/obby/ -- Dennis K. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On za, 2007-03-03 at 12:05 +0100, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: > http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/ http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/obby/ that is :) -- Dennis K. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On za, 2007-03-03 at 21:47 +1100, Melissa Draper wrote: > does anyone know if this has been backported or not, or if it was ever > suggested for such? http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/ -- Dennis K. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Just an FYI that UWN does have large amount of realtime collaborative >> editing using Gobby. >> >> > but not for those using ubuntu 6.06 LTS > > afaik this is still possible if you get the edgy version from packages.ubuntu.com does anyone know if this has been backported or not, or if it was ever suggested for such? -- Sincerely Melissa Draper http://www.meldraweb.com Phone: 0404 595 395 (intl): +61 404 595 395 P.O Box 1412 Lavington, NSW 2641 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
> Just an FYI that UWN does have large amount of realtime collaborative > editing using Gobby. > but not for those using ubuntu 6.06 LTS -- Markus Wimmer www.mindspin-cms-hosting.de Pfarrgasse 1 63571 Gelnhausen "There is always another way to do it" Larry Wall -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 18:11 +, Matthew Revell wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean by a more social solution. UWN is edited on a > wiki - the most collaborative way possible, without getting into real > time collaborative editing. I think replacing UWN by email with a forum > post would be a mistake. UWN is currently pushed to people, a forum post > requires people to go find it. Just an FYI that UWN does have large amount of realtime collaborative editing using Gobby. > -- Help me get to Venezuela! http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hey Adam, On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:17 -0500, Adam wrote: > We were just talking about this in IRC and I was advised > (sarcastically) to bring my idea forward on the mailing list. The UWN > has stagnated and frankly the form in which it was presented is an > out-dated model. I think it would be a shame to lose UWN because we feel its delivery method isn't fashionable. If we feel its content can be better handled, say as ad-hoc posts, then that's certainly a good discussion to have. > I want to propose we move to a more "social" solution, that allows > for more community involvement. A forum post weekly would be > sufficient, but I'm more in favor of a blog-style solution. I'm not sure what you mean by a more social solution. UWN is edited on a wiki - the most collaborative way possible, without getting into real time collaborative editing. I think replacing UWN by email with a forum post would be a mistake. UWN is currently pushed to people, a forum post requires people to go find it. > The benefits of the blog style solution are obvious: > * The news is delivered as it happens, in an editorial format > that is interesting to users. > * Users are able to comment and give feed back on individual > editorials > * Users are able to add to the editorial themselves through a > comment solution. > * RSS allows this "news letter" to be delivered directly to > anyone who has subscribed to it. I think this is more an argument to rethink The Fridge, than to ditch UWN. I've been out of touch lately, but I'm willing to bet there'd be a fair bit of support for integrating The Fridge fully with the marketing team. That way, The Fridge isn't at the mercy of an exclusive coterie of editors. UWN, however it's delivered, can still have a place, I think. Some people may not want to track a blog but enjoy receiving a weekly digest. It's good to work out why UWN exists and who its for. > I feel that ideal sites for this would be wordpress or Blogger.com > (blogger may be easier to set up). What do you guys think? As others have said, we don't need another site. Let's make the most of what we have. Let's have a debate about what the Fridge is for, what UWN is for and how we should move them forward. I've been concentrating on Launchpad for the past few months, so I've neglected the Fridge lately. It's an important barometer of the Ubuntu community, though, and we shouldn't let it go through these active-fallow cycles. So, if the marketing team does take over the Fridge, we'd need to work out how to decide who gets to be an editor, etc and what content we want it to have. Once that's sorted, it's just a matter of switching discussion to this list, rather than the close fridge-devel list. Any thoughts? -- Matthew Revell - talk to me about Launchpad mrevell in #launchpad, irc.freenode.net -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
I'm not sure what you mean by a more social solution. UWN is edited on a wiki - the most collaborative way possible, without getting into real time collaborative editing. I think replacing UWN by email with a forum post would be a mistake. UWN is currently pushed to people, a forum post requires people to go find it. I don't mean social as in collaborative, I'm sorry for the confusion. I meant social as in allowing for user feedback and discussion. I think this is more an argument to rethink The Fridge, than to ditch UWN. I've been out of touch lately, but I'm willing to bet there'd be a fair bit of support for integrating The Fridge fully with the marketing team. That way, The Fridge isn't at the mercy of an exclusive coterie of editors. I would support this, if we were allowed to post editorial style posts concerning the news. UWN, however it's delivered, can still have a place, I think. Some people may not want to track a blog but enjoy receiving a weekly digest. It's good to work out why UWN exists and who its for. As others have said, we don't need another site. Let's make the most of what we have. Let's have a debate about what the Fridge is for, what UWN is for and how we should move them forward. I'm sure creating a weekly digest of posts from the fridge would hardly be difficult. So, if the marketing team does take over the Fridge, we'd need to work out how to decide who gets to be an editor, etc and what content we want it to have. Once that's sorted, it's just a matter of switching discussion to this list, rather than the close fridge-devel list. Any thoughts? Anyone who shows the ability to write a decent article should be allowed to write for the fridge. If need be posts to the fridge could require moderation from a specific group before they were allowed to go public. This would ensure "quality control". Anyone who maintains a decent blog is probably a good candidate for writing for the fridge in this fashion. - Adam. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hi all, On jeu, 2007-03-01 at 20:47 +, Matthew East wrote: > However, not all news items are interesting for the Fridge's userbase. > The vast majority of the UWN is useful for people working *within* the > Ubuntu community to keep in touch with other aspects of the community. > As the community grows, the UWN gets more and more *vital* to ensuring > that the community can keep in touch and avoid fragmenting. For example, > active participants on the Forums can tell us what is happening there, > active participants in the art team can do the same, and so on. We must > not lose that. I see another aspect of the UWN. The French translation of the UWN is distributed as: - a mail on the French users mailing list - a topic on the French forum - an article on the French planet At least the two first media, permit people who does not follow the Ubuntu actuality (by not subscribing to any planet, any blog) to be informed on what's going on in Ubuntu. They are not involved in the Ubuntu community, but they are happy to know what's new. We have had a lot of good feed back for the posts on the French users mailing list. With the UWN we *push* informations to users, he does not have to pull it. > > So, in sum: the Fridge and the UWN have differing functions, both of > which are essential and shouldn't be lost. I can not agree more :-). I think there were good ideas for lightening the UWN process in this thread, I would not like this newsletter to be lost, for me, and for the users. I would be glad to help. Cheers, Lionel -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hi, On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 12:09 -0800, Corey Burger wrote: > On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > There is no reason that the fridge cannot become this. There is > > > absolutely no reason to create yet another resource. > > > > > > Corey > > > > Well then, perhaps we should focus our resources on the Fridge as opposed to > > the weekly news letter? Would the marketing team members need special > > permissions/titles to post on this forum? > > Yes, but it is pretty easy to get. Coincidentally, the Fridge mailing > list was having a discussion about how to revive/kickstart the fridge. I personally think that merging UWN into the Fridge is a bad idea. The Fridge is a great place for people to contribute substantial articles and stories, and we definitely need to work on making it easy to contribute there. However, not all news items are interesting for the Fridge's userbase. The vast majority of the UWN is useful for people working *within* the Ubuntu community to keep in touch with other aspects of the community. As the community grows, the UWN gets more and more *vital* to ensuring that the community can keep in touch and avoid fragmenting. For example, active participants on the Forums can tell us what is happening there, active participants in the art team can do the same, and so on. We must not lose that. So, in sum: the Fridge and the UWN have differing functions, both of which are essential and shouldn't be lost. In order to gain contribution to the UWN, I'd suggest making smaller changes like being more active in encouraging participation, ensuring that the barrier to contribution is low, etc. > As for translations, I propose we do the following: > install a new drupal install, localized, at fr.fridge.ubuntu.com or > es.fridge.ubuntu.com. > translate each story as it is released (smaller stories are also > easier to translate) Generally translations are encouraged to be done on the various local sites. So for documentation, websites and other translations, we encourage the loco teams to present translations on their own websites. While that continues to be the case, we should do the same with news. For example, the Italian team publishes significant news items on its website and also publishes a weekly news with both international and Italian specific news, which has very much its own style and flavour. Matt -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Yes, but it is pretty easy to get. Coincidentally, the Fridge mailing list was having a discussion about how to revive/kickstart the fridge. As for translations, I propose we do the following: install a new drupal install, localized, at fr.fridge.ubuntu.com or es.fridge.ubuntu.com. translate each story as it is released (smaller stories are also easier to translate) Now, I shoudl be clear: I am not fully endorsing the idea of moving away from the current style of the UWN. I am merely saying this is how it probably should be structured if it were to change. Cheers, Corey Ok, well, I'm all for the fridge acting as a blog for the marketing team. It seems like a good compromise on how to get the fridge going again and get news to people. If we're doing that though, I feel the UWN is a useless waste of time. , Adam. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Hey Adam, in the french translation team, we had been talking about getting some additional news in translated UWN. News could be related to events in french-speaking countries for example. We never got to see if it was OK with UWN team, as UWN#30 got held back for a long time. So, brainstorming time! -- bapoumba I completely agree with the idea that some news is only relevant to the french, etc. Dividing the news up when it's obvious othe people won't care is a good idea. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > There is no reason that the fridge cannot become this. There is > > absolutely no reason to create yet another resource. > > > > Corey > > Well then, perhaps we should focus our resources on the Fridge as opposed to > the weekly news letter? Would the marketing team members need special > permissions/titles to post on this forum? Yes, but it is pretty easy to get. Coincidentally, the Fridge mailing list was having a discussion about how to revive/kickstart the fridge. As for translations, I propose we do the following: install a new drupal install, localized, at fr.fridge.ubuntu.com or es.fridge.ubuntu.com. translate each story as it is released (smaller stories are also easier to translate) Now, I shoudl be clear: I am not fully endorsing the idea of moving away from the current style of the UWN. I am merely saying this is how it probably should be structured if it were to change. Cheers, Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:47 -0500, Adam wrote: > Bapoumba > Hello, > > if you are going to go and change UWN, please remember that it > gets > translated and read in several languages. Its evolution should > take that > into account. > > Cheers, > Isabelle > > > - > > Bapoumba, > These blogs could be translated, or even written > natively by people who speak those other languages. > Hey Adam, in the french translation team, we had been talking about getting some additional news in translated UWN. News could be related to events in french-speaking countries for example. We never got to see if it was OK with UWN team, as UWN#30 got held back for a long time. So, brainstorming time! -- bapoumba -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/1/07, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:We already have the > fridge, so here is a possible idea: > > Break up the UWN into discrete bits > Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. > Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. > > This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. > > Does that work? > > Corey > > > Corey, > I think you misunderstood what I was talking about. Yes the > fridge is there, and look at the community participation in it. The > articles are short and appear as though they were written by a machine. I'm > talking about more "organic" articles, where you can tell the author is > actually a person, with opinions etc. It's a common trend anymore for > companies and organizations to communicate with their community through > blogs. Even Novell's openPR team posts blogs that feel organic, concerning > the goings on with the company. Surely there would be less trouble creating > a blog to talk about Ubuntu in the news. It wouldn't die if the main > members disappeared, etc. There is no reason that the fridge cannot become this. There is absolutely no reason to create yet another resource. Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
Bapoumba Hello, if you are going to go and change UWN, please remember that it gets translated and read in several languages. Its evolution should take that into account. Cheers, Isabelle - Bapoumba, These blogs could be translated, or even written natively by people who speak those other languages. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 12:26 -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Corey Burger wrote: > > We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: > > > > Break up the UWN into discrete bits > > Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. > > Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. > > > > This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. > > > > Does that work? > > > > Corey > > > > How does Debian do their weekly news? Hello, if you are going to go and change UWN, please remember that it gets translated and read in several languages. Its evolution should take that into account. Cheers, Isabelle > - -- > +--+ > |Aaron Toponce _ Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign | > |OALUG President( ) http://www.asciiribbon.org | > |http://www.aarontoponce.org X Against HTML e-mail| > |http://www.oalug.com / \ Against proprietary attachments| > +--+ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQEVAwUBRecozM55Ebf8BAiPAQr/iggAqB7o/aXxaYq9z55JphyGmwz/KDaDKVCC > gynwkozZB2OHnhKPDngP4UrxJya9PqNlTv92uFzQHBYuAFwffwqkhJCOZ6hzu4dC > 0d6JqlHeUCEP21g0JS55vjmFaxJ1yXOMnmfcbdJowXxD9oiDpVmlCDDK/jBhbSXW > tBQUCD5KRahMosdEdnmqIa3lXG1gWQf1hxL/QBfNo643lT6rb0tjhqmSoMepTGyJ > Sid1dL1uYOYRH8N9ZuqnuUtoMbiI6kiefVajVDomVu7An6eXagrsjyeZQWTmWFVo > zBpkEdzZm8k7u0krWun3OoWeifnuvaw30Wzk8xp6ln+miebRGva6zg== > =iphe > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- bapoumba -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: Break up the UWN into discrete bits Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. Does that work? Corey Corey, I think you misunderstood what I was talking about. Yes the fridge is there, and look at the community participation in it. The articles are short and appear as though they were written by a machine. I'm talking about more "organic" articles, where you can tell the author is actually a person, with opinions etc. It's a common trend anymore for companies and organizations to communicate with their community through blogs. Even Novell's openPR team posts blogs that feel organic, concerning the goings on with the company. Surely there would be less trouble creating a blog to talk about Ubuntu in the news. It wouldn't die if the main members disappeared, etc. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Corey Burger wrote: > We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: > > Break up the UWN into discrete bits > Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. > Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. > > This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. > > Does that work? > > Corey > How does Debian do their weekly news? - -- +--+ |Aaron Toponce _ Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign | |OALUG President( ) http://www.asciiribbon.org | |http://www.aarontoponce.org X Against HTML e-mail| |http://www.oalug.com / \ Against proprietary attachments| +--+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRecozM55Ebf8BAiPAQr/iggAqB7o/aXxaYq9z55JphyGmwz/KDaDKVCC gynwkozZB2OHnhKPDngP4UrxJya9PqNlTv92uFzQHBYuAFwffwqkhJCOZ6hzu4dC 0d6JqlHeUCEP21g0JS55vjmFaxJ1yXOMnmfcbdJowXxD9oiDpVmlCDDK/jBhbSXW tBQUCD5KRahMosdEdnmqIa3lXG1gWQf1hxL/QBfNo643lT6rb0tjhqmSoMepTGyJ Sid1dL1uYOYRH8N9ZuqnuUtoMbiI6kiefVajVDomVu7An6eXagrsjyeZQWTmWFVo zBpkEdzZm8k7u0krWun3OoWeifnuvaw30Wzk8xp6ln+miebRGva6zg== =iphe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
On 3/1/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We were just talking about this in IRC and I was advised (sarcastically) to > bring my idea forward on the mailing list. The UWN has stagnated and > frankly the form in which it was presented is an out-dated model. I want to > propose we move to a more "social" solution, that allows for more community > involvement. A forum post weekly would be sufficient, but I'm more in favor > of a blog-style solution. > > The benefits of the blog style solution are obvious: > > The news is delivered as it happens, in an editorial format that is > interesting to users. > Users are able to comment and give feed back on individual editorials > Users are able to add to the editorial themselves through a comment > solution. > RSS allows this "news letter" to be delivered directly to anyone who has > subscribed to it.I'm sure there are other benefits, but those are the > obvious. Potential cons include: > > Less professional quality of blog (If the editorial format is followed, it > will not look like a machine produced the blog, some see this as a plus) > infrequent posts > opinionated posts (If the editorial format is followed the individual author > would be allowed to present the news in a slightly more opinionated format, > however it's been shown that people like this kind of thing. It does have > it's downfalls though. > I feel that ideal sites for this would be wordpress or Blogger.com (blogger > may be easier to set up). What do you guys think? We already have the fridge, so here is a possible idea: Break up the UWN into discrete bits Each bit would be like loco news, last weeks packages, etc. Each bit would be a seperate story on the fridge. This would mean each bit could be released on a specific day. Does that work? Corey -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more "Social"?
We were just talking about this in IRC and I was advised (sarcastically) to bring my idea forward on the mailing list. The UWN has stagnated and frankly the form in which it was presented is an out-dated model. I want to propose we move to a more "social" solution, that allows for more community involvement. A forum post weekly would be sufficient, but I'm more in favor of a blog-style solution. The benefits of the blog style solution are obvious: - The news is delivered as it happens, in an editorial format that is interesting to users. - Users are able to comment and give feed back on individual editorials - Users are able to add to the editorial themselves through a comment solution. - RSS allows this "news letter" to be delivered directly to anyone who has subscribed to it. I'm sure there are other benefits, but those are the obvious. Potential cons include: - Less professional quality of blog (If the editorial format is followed, it will not look like a machine produced the blog, some see this as a plus) - infrequent posts - opinionated posts (If the editorial format is followed the individual author would be allowed to present the news in a slightly more opinionated format, however it's been shown that people like this kind of thing. It does have it's downfalls though. I feel that ideal sites for this would be wordpress or Blogger.com (blogger may be easier to set up). What do you guys think? -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
