RE: Ken: Theme conversation today
Peter, Ken and I walked through it and he was able to get an image on his Q1. Let's see... where we left off was that he wasn't able to see some images from the theme, but he should have something usable. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zhu, Peter J Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM To: Villalovos, John L; ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: Ken: Theme conversation today Villalovos, John L wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it >> did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not >> work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it >> simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I >> see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this >> (ASAP)? > > It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to > moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not > yet been updated. > > John Ken Based on what John said, I suggest you get moblin-image-creator from "git clone http://www.moblin.org/repos/tools/moblin-image-creator.git"; and have a try to sustain your work. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Ken: Theme conversation today
Villalovos, John L wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it >> did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not >> work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it >> simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I >> see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this >> (ASAP)? > > It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to > moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not > yet been updated. > > John Ken Based on what John said, I suggest you get moblin-image-creator from "git clone http://www.moblin.org/repos/tools/moblin-image-creator.git"; and have a try to sustain your work. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Ken: Theme conversation today
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it > did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not > work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it > simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I > see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this > (ASAP)? It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not yet been updated. John -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Applications PPA
Hello. Sometimes, for one reason or another, I have some application around here that isn't or won't be uploaded to repository any time soon. It may not be quite ready yet or not good enough to go over the sponsoring process or maybe it's just a quick hack that I cooked up for testing. As this stuff can be also sometimes helpful to others, I decided to start upload them to a PPA. With that you should be able to install and/or update the packages easily and it's much better than keep sending packages by email. Bare in mind that this is an unofficial, personal initiative to make people that keep asking me for incomplete and crappy stuff happy (and off my back) so it may or may not work. You have been warned! :) There's almost nothing there yet, I was mostly testing it latelly so don't bother to look at it. I will post details on how to use it. []s Adilson. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ken: Theme conversation today
Hi, At this point in time I guess we need to do whatever we can to get things included. Sad that we spent more time discussing how to do this the right way than actually doing it the right way but now is not the time to discuss that I guess. We can cut up the template that I have ready (although there are certainly a few problems with it and the gtkrc is proabably nowhere near correct) and then try to figure out which pieces are missing and get them done by hand. My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this (ASAP)? -- Ken On Thursday 11 October 2007 20:47:43 Spencer, Bob wrote: > Ken, FYI > > #ume-theme > [INFO] Channel view for "#ume-theme > " opened. > -->| YOU (bspencer) have joined #ume-theme > >> > Can you call Peter? > bspencer: ^ > agoliveira: howdy >> > Cool. I'm back. I called Peter in case he's still around. > Ready when you are. > ok > Peter might come > he was getting tired > next steps from now until tomorrow's deadline > do we want to use your new theme in gutsy? > if so, we need to work on it today. if not then we will just > stick to hildon-theme-mobile-basic for gutsy and worry about the real > ume-basic theme after >> > I have no idea and about tomorrow's deadline, to tell you the truth, I > just heard about it today. > I don't think that gutsy is crucial > -->| Peter_u2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/intel/x-f83f290a7d67b7d2) has > joined #ume-theme > Peter_u2: howdy >> > Me too. All and all, I just finished the code for this stuff, it wasn't > tested yet. >> howdy, > bspencer and agoliveira. > agoliveira: I'm not so worried about including > the theme building tools in gutsy > just the finished theme >> > Ok, let's start from the start. Let me explain what I have done. > if it is not possible to get ken your tools, > then have him finish the theme by friday, we can just look beyond friday > >> yes, > ken agree with that as well to catch up schedule >> > Mear with me if you knwo what I telling you, I just want to organize my > thoughts :) > Bear > agoliveira: we are patiently listening... >> > Sorry, my hands hurt... anyway... >> > agoliveira, go on your thought. > agoliveira, sorry to hear that >> > 1) We have the hildon-theme-tools that svn's a source package from > Maemo's repo so you can mess with it and create a theme package. > 2) What I did was to take a theme package from ken, polish it a > bit and call it "base". The new tools do an apt-get source on this > package so you can tinker with it and upload it to be used with the same > name or other name, it does not matter. > 3) It took me more time than I expect to come up with this > simple solution, sorry. > So now we are in this situation: > so there is a theme called ume-base in gutsy > repo? > > > The new tools do an apt-get source on this package ?? > >> > No, I 'm getting there >> If you > can't make it, sending source by mail is ok. >> > The tools do an apt-get source but the package is not in the ubuntu repo > yet, I want to test it and check it with ken first so it's on my PPA. >> So you > might can use keyboard less. > agoliveira: before we uplaod it, can we put it > on LP for us to play with too? >> > So, let me explain in what point we are: > bspencer: I'll explain that too in a momjent > 1) I have the modified tools and the source and binary theme > "modified tools" means they account for UME > graphics that are not in Hildon ? > (like marquee) ? >> > bspencer: I have no idea, I just got the package from ken and AFAIK, > there's nothing like this on it. The tools are using just the standard > images AFAIK. > 2) The process should be that I send you the tools and you > whould be able to use them to get the source from my PPA and build your > binary. > 3) The problem is that I wasn't expecting to do it right now, > just monday > bspencer: I just modified the tools to be able to grab the > package we are going to use as a base, I didn't change it's behaviour to > include other itens. > I didn't even know if it's what you needed/wanted. >> > agoliveira, according to ken, you try to address issue of bootstrap > downloading layout.txt from maemo repo. >> > Yes, when you select the our package it does an apt-get source on it > instead of swvn as I explained above >> but > IMHO, we n
RE: [Moblin Dev] Re: Is there any plan of adding screen saver featurefor moblin?
GrueMaster wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 17:40 +0800, Zhu, Peter J wrote: > >> Specially a saver implementing org.gnome.ScreenSaver? >> >> Thanks, >> Peter > > Oops. Somehow the text of my reply got stripped. > > Question: wouldn't having a screen saver be counter-productive to > low power/long battery life that the MID is going for? > > -- Tobin Davis > > > What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away. > ___ > dev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://www.moblin.org/mailman/listinfo/dev Good point. Generally the device should turn off the screen when idle. Also, what are we spending time on it for when we are already burning the midnight oil. Bob -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
FYI: Mozilla's Firefox to Trot Onto Mobile Devices
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/wireless/59775.html Mozilla's Firefox to Trot Onto Mobile Devices By Fred J. Aun LinuxInsider Part of the ECT News Network 10/11/07 11:07 AM PT Mozilla is gearing up to develop a mobile version of its Firefox browser that is designed to seize on the growing popularity of wireless Internet-enabled devices. The organization has hired new full-time staffers to help develop the browser, but it also will rely on its community of volunteers to help it improve the product. ... http://www.technewsworld.com/story/wireless/59775.html -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
UME/Moblin on D201GLX
We are experimenting with trying to get Ubuntu UME and a basic Moblin type desktop running on a Intel D201GLX Little Valley board (Celeron 215 processor). I notice that there are several Intel guys on this board, if anyone could lend us assistance in the port, please contact me off the list. Thanks -- Kevin Fries Senior Linux Engineer Computer and Communications Technology, Inc A Division of Japan Communications Inc. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
UI and Apps Status
Another JIT status report UI Grid-layout / html Home Screen: Working now. Recognizes theme and background change. Requires hildon-theme-mobile-basic for button button background graphics. Still to be done: - Set the default theme as this UI reads the theme from gconf and currently UME default theme is the non-existent Human theme. - show some small animated gif when application is launching - listen for notification when application has completed launching to turn off animation - Request upload into gutsy If you install the latest mobile-basic-flash package from moblin.org you will get this UI by default. Clutter Home Screen: Have got it working on my Q1 after getting the hardware accel driver. Clutter 0.4+ libraries have been included in gutsy Current issues: - Touch screen isn't sensitive enough to give me the light iPhone touch feeling. I often have to use my fingernail to grab the objects - UI is jerky. When you try to roll the objects left/right they stall, then burst. - actor objects often get misplaced and then bunched at the beginning - location highlight at the bottom of the screen is misplaced - big animation look a little to Apple-MAC like. We'd like to get it to look more like a rolling ring of icons - the /etc/xdb/menus/*.menu file doesn't match well with our applications. We need to add a "MobileApp" category to applications and filter them for showing on the home screen - when launching the applications the code to detect if it was successfully launched is imperfect Theme: Chatted with Ken about theme. He is highly frustrated with our current status and apparent miscommunication. Need to resolve how to get something in the short term and then fix the long term process issues. Bug with current flash UI: We found and fixed the performance but with the flash UI. Media Viewer: Have new graphics we are trying to put into application/UI. Many new features working now including thumbnail view. Other comments: - I built LPIA build again this and still no Hildon Claws. We put a couple of guys on this to try and get a last-minute upgrade of basic features and it would be nice if we could see the Hildon version in our images. From last week's To Do: 1) Get Grid-layout UI usable. Any day now. I assumed it would be yesterday but ran into small bugs around changing the background repeatedly. Should checkin today. (Done) 2) Make sure we resolve the performance bug. Hopefully this goes away with the non-flash UI. We will still try to resolve, but it will fall to a lesser priority. (Done) 3) Go through remaining UI elements and finish bug fixing for gutsy launch. Mainly: marquee needs tweaking, theme needs to be completed. (Still in progress) 4) Start work to get clutter UI to a usable state so people can start commenting and we can discuss the exciting post-gutsy future of the home screen! (Lots of work ahead) Bob -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Thermal Extension (Dabney) status update 10/11/2007
- Code entering Internal validation cycle - Scheduled for external release Nov 2, 2007 Don Johnson Ultra-Mobility Group Intel Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Midbrowser status update 2007-10-03 -> 2007-10-10
* A new Midbrowser release has been uploaded to the Gusty repository this week. * Test and Bug fixing mode. * Working on enabling the prefs extension to replace network setting dialog with gconf. Carl -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin?
Hi Todd, Yes. And I also want to get notification as entering in and out of idle state. Hi Rusty, Is there any dbus service for ppm under development or in plan so that I can hook a signal to events of idle in/out? Thanks, Peter From: Brandt, Todd E Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:53 PM To: Zhu, Peter J; 'GrueMaster'; 'ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com'; Lynch, Rusty Subject: RE: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin? Hi Peter, that's probably a ppm function since it depends on factors such as remaining power and the current use case (for instance if you're listening to music then the screen should be toggled off quickly, vs watching video where it must remain on). PPM could then export these settings to a control panel applet. From: Zhu, Peter J Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:30 PM To: GrueMaster; ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com; Lynch, Rusty; Brandt, Todd E Subject: RE: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin? Tobin, Sounds reasonable. What I want to get is event of no touch for a while from user and touch after a while, like screen saver. I believe it should be a system event. So I don't want to write my specific code to deal with it. Rusty/Todd, I believe it should be scope of nm or ppm. Is there any comments from you? Thanks, Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GrueMaster Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:08 AM To: Moblin Devel; ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin? On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 17:40 +0800, Zhu, Peter J wrote: Specially a saver implementing org.gnome.ScreenSaver? Thanks, Peter Oops. Somehow the text of my reply got stripped. Question: wouldn't having a screen saver be counter-productive to low power/long battery life that the MID is going for? -- Tobin Davis What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin?
Hi Peter, that's probably a ppm function since it depends on factors such as remaining power and the current use case (for instance if you're listening to music then the screen should be toggled off quickly, vs watching video where it must remain on). PPM could then export these settings to a control panel applet. From: Zhu, Peter J Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:30 PM To: GrueMaster; ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com; Lynch, Rusty; Brandt, Todd E Subject: RE: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin? Tobin, Sounds reasonable. What I want to get is event of no touch for a while from user and touch after a while, like screen saver. I believe it should be a system event. So I don't want to write my specific code to deal with it. Rusty/Todd, I believe it should be scope of nm or ppm. Is there any comments from you? Thanks, Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GrueMaster Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:08 AM To: Moblin Devel; ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Is there any plan of adding screen saver feature for moblin? On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 17:40 +0800, Zhu, Peter J wrote: Specially a saver implementing org.gnome.ScreenSaver? Thanks, Peter Oops. Somehow the text of my reply got stripped. Question: wouldn't having a screen saver be counter-productive to low power/long battery life that the MID is going for? -- Tobin Davis What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Can I request a libtelepathy update to 0.0.57
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:25:24PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 04:38:13PM +0800, Zhu, Peter J wrote: > > > Is there any possible to request a package update for libtelepathy to > > 0.0.57 from current 0.0.55. I need some new interfaces and signals from > > new version. There might be some process involved. Please let me know. > > Gutsy is frozen now, so it's not likely that we can add new upstream > versions that will also impact the main distribution. What's the plan > for the time period between now and when Hardy opens? If there are changes which are blocking work and thus can't be deferred to 8.04, I suggest that we set up a PPA to host them, and use that temporarily in the image builds. -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report, week 41
Mobile build infrastructure: We now have the ability to provide builds which contains bits which are not in the archive, which then makes it possible for us to provide builds with the Adobe flash player, etc. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Can I request a libtelepathy update to 0.0.57
* "Zhu, Peter J" | Is there any possible to request a package update for libtelepathy to | 0.0.57 from current 0.0.55. I need some new interfaces and signals from | new version. There might be some process involved. Please let me know. libtelepathy is universe, though. It's awfully late for it now, but if you can foolow the procedure on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess, we might be able to get it done. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Can I request a libtelepathy update to 0.0.57
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 04:38:13PM +0800, Zhu, Peter J wrote: > Is there any possible to request a package update for libtelepathy to > 0.0.57 from current 0.0.55. I need some new interfaces and signals from > new version. There might be some process involved. Please let me know. Gutsy is frozen now, so it's not likely that we can add new upstream versions that will also impact the main distribution. What's the plan for the time period between now and when Hardy opens? -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Can I request a libtelepathy update to 0.0.57
HI Tollef, Is there any possible to request a package update for libtelepathy to 0.0.57 from current 0.0.55. I need some new interfaces and signals from new version. There might be some process involved. Please let me know. Thanks, Peter -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
moblin-chat update
Add moko finger scroll feature to roster view. Integrating empathy-0.14 feature is half way. It's big change and have to do piece by piece and verify one by one. One big thing might be first support of Voip support from empathy upstream. Voip integration is still under way. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
moblin-applets status update
Volume status bar applet: Added a volume status bar icon and slider based on the mixer applet from the gnome-applets package. Removed the bonobo and PanelApplet interfaces and replaced them with the Hildon status bar API. Also removed all dependencies on gstreamer and replaced it with direct calls to the /dev/mixer device. Screen Brightness status bar applet: Added a screen brightness status bar icon and slider based on the brightness applet from the gnome-power-manager package. Removed the bonobo and PanelApplet interfaces and replaced them with the Hildon status bar API. Also removed any dependencies on the gnome power manager and replaced the low level brightness calls with DBUS calls directly to HAL. Touchscreen configuration control panel applet: Danny Varner has been working on adding a touchscreen configuration utility to moblin-applets. He has identified the evtouch calibration utility as the best source base and has adapted it for use on moblin. The utility will make changes to xorg-samsungq1ultra.conf and control the /dev/touchscreen driver. Soft Keyboard support in the keyboard control panel applet: Jian Han has added a new tab to the keyboard configuration applet which allows for configuration of the soft keyboard. The user can select whether or not to autolaunch the soft keyboard and can select its layout. - | Todd Brandt - Intel Oregon | |Linux for Mobile Internet Devices (MID)| | 2111 W NE 25th Ave| |Hillsboro, OR 97124 JF1-235| |---| | "Of all the things I've lost, I miss | |my mind the most" - Mark Twain | - -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
