PSB Gfx Drivers and libexa
I took the action item in our weekly meeting to track down what's going on with the Gfx driver and libexa. Here is what I found out... The latest version of the PSB Gfx driver requires that libexa be at v2.2 to support 2-D acceleration. PSB Gfx driver will still work on a system w/ libexa v2.1, but without 2-D acceleration. The problem is that the version of libexa in Gutsy's xorg-xserver-core-1.3 package is v2.1. The developers working on the PSB Gfx driver get around this issue by copying over the version of libexa that the xorg-xserver-core package installs with libexa v2.2. This works for the PSB Gfx driver only and is a hack. It would seem like a better solution would be to update the xorg-xserver-core package to build and install libexa v2.2. The problem with that is that you would need to port and validate all the other X display drivers and other components that have a dependency on libexa. I would expect that to be a lot of work with little gain when we move to Hardy. On Hardy xorg is based on 1.4 and installs v2.2 of libexa. That would seem ideal. Unfortunately the PSB Gfx driver hasn't been developed nor validated against xorg 1.4. It has been developed and validated against xorg 1.3. At this time we're not able to move to xorg 1.4 and will have to investigate for the switch to Hardy. Summary of supported versions: = PSB Gfx driver requirement: libexa v2.2 Base | xorg | xorg-xserver-core | libexa +==+===+ Intel | 1.3 | 1.3 | 2.2 +--+---+ Gutsy | 1.3 | 1.3 | 2.1 +--+---+ Hardy | 1.4 | 1.4 | 2.2 +--+---+ Proposal 1: == For the interim period, while we're on the Ubuntu Mobile PPA code base that is based on Gutsy, we could have the deb package containing the PSB Gfx driver copy over the libexa with v2.2 when it is installed. This way libexa 2.2 would only clobber the previously installed libexa if the PSB Gfx driver is installed. When we move to Hardy, the PSB Gfx driver would be ported to xorg 1.4 and the need for the libexa hack would go away. Proposal 2: == Another idea is to live without 2D acceleration until we switch to Hardy and we move the PSB Gfx driver to xorg 1.4. This is not very desirable from Intel's perspective, because we can't get any test coverage or performance tuning on the driver until we switch to Hardy. I'm leaning towards proposal 1, even though it's far from ideal. Comments? Suggestions? Other ideas? +=+=+ Rob Rhoads mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Architect Open Source Technology CenterOffice: 503-712-6675 Software Solutions Group mobile: 971-533-2451 Intel Corporation Hillsboro, Oregon USA -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Xephyr w/GL support
Sorry for the short description. When doing development on ubuntu-mobile applications, we use a tool that creates environments specific for the target devices (e.g. Samsung Q1 Ultra). After creating the target environment we can debug applications using Xephyr on the desktop. A picture of this can be found here: http://moblin.org/howto_app-dev.php ( 1/2 way down the page ) In the past our applications have been simple non-GL based, but we are creating a new homescreen UI and media application that use GL. We are unable to run or debug these within the Xephyr window because the default configuration does not support GL. I asked Tollef if he knew who could help us with this change and he said you were the master. If you want to chat, I'm on #ubuntu-mobile most of the time. (pacific time) Bob from which images can be created which will run Bryce Harrington wrote: > I wasn't included in the discussions that arrived at doing this, so > you'll need to give me all the background here. > > Bryce > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 01:06:43PM -0800, Spencer, Bob wrote: >> >> Bryce, >> Can you help us get xserver-xephyr with GL support as the default for >> ubuntu-mobile? We are doing most our debugging on the desktop and >> moving to OpenGL-enabled applications. What can we do to help? >> >> http://dodji.blogspot.com/2007/10/xephyr-xvideo-and-gl-has-landed.html >> >> Bob -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Image issues
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 20:40 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:39:26PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > * GrueMaster > > > > | The bigger question is, should the lpia and lpiacompat configurations be > > | combined? > > > > No, they use different versions of drm.ko which are not compatible. I > > suspect this will be fixed sometime during the hardy cycle, Amit might > > know more. > > TTM isn't going to land in mainline DRM before Hardy, so a separate DRM > is pretty much a necessity. > > -- > Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ok, given that the new drm module won't be integrated any time soon, could it be renamed to avoid conflicting with the main drm module? This is a simple fix that will eventually go away when the drm modules are merged. -- Tobin Davis No matter how old a mother is, she watches her middle-aged children for signs of improvement. -- Florida Scott-Maxwell -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Xephyr w/GL support
I wasn't included in the discussions that arrived at doing this, so you'll need to give me all the background here. Bryce On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 01:06:43PM -0800, Spencer, Bob wrote: > > Bryce, > Can you help us get xserver-xephyr with GL support as the default for > ubuntu-mobile? We are doing most our debugging on the desktop and > moving to OpenGL-enabled applications. What can we do to help? > > http://dodji.blogspot.com/2007/10/xephyr-xvideo-and-gl-has-landed.html > > Bob -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Xephyr w/GL support
Bryce, Can you help us get xserver-xephyr with GL support as the default for ubuntu-mobile? We are doing most our debugging on the desktop and moving to OpenGL-enabled applications. What can we do to help? http://dodji.blogspot.com/2007/10/xephyr-xvideo-and-gl-has-landed.html Bob -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Image issues
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:39:26PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * GrueMaster > > | The bigger question is, should the lpia and lpiacompat configurations be > | combined? > > No, they use different versions of drm.ko which are not compatible. I > suspect this will be fixed sometime during the hardy cycle, Amit might > know more. TTM isn't going to land in mainline DRM before Hardy, so a separate DRM is pretty much a necessity. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [Fwd: hildon-control-panel in trunk]
* Matt Zimmerman | Do we need to adjust the imports in Launchpad to account for this, or is | this the branch we're already importing? We are already importing from this branch, but I believe LP needs a slight poke to start importing from another branch. Michael: the hildon-control-panel branch in SVN has moved from a branch to trunk. We are currently importing the branch, so I was wondering if we can just change the URL in LP and it will work correctly, or if we need to poke you to do some of your magic tricks. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
moblin applets status
Have held an informal review of the features in the control panel and have implemented many of the comments, most having to do with removal of the clutter and simplification of the UI. Have been focusing primarily on bug fixing and code upgrades, and I'm currently in the process of finalizing the mixer applet and will be adding in theme switching next. - | Todd Brandt - Intel Oregon | |Linux for Mobile Internet Devices (MID)| | 2111 W NE 25th Ave| |Hillsboro, OR 97124 JF1-235| |---| | "Of all the things I've lost, I miss | |my mind the most" - Mark Twain | - -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
UI / Media Player Status
UI Current homescreen has been updated with some patches Added patched from Bill Filler for Marquee and mobile-basic-home Clutter home screen v1 still not ready but soon. Need to iron out menuing issues Media Player Updated graphics. Current media player UI looking more polished. You need to download new hildon-theme-mobile-basic with latest media player Working on startup time. After problem at UDS getting media player to startup we did more profiling with these results: Time duration(sec) Original Version1st Run - connect to gst dbus first 2nd Run - go to osso listener first total 18.4 25.6 18.2 main UI initiation 1.3 1.3 1.3 engine initiation 13.4 19.3 3.6 3 views initiation 1.7 1.8 2.4 thumbnail 0.7 2 0 osso 0.1 0.1 9.8 We will background everything to get the media player to start in <2sec (1.3s is goal), but also need to improve engine initialization. Much of time spent at UDS and traveling. Bob -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Midbrowser status update 11/8/2007
* We have successfully built Midbrowser with FireFox 3.0 Code base. However we are having problem with starting the new browser because of some problem with the applications.ini file. Jimmy is in the process of debugging this issue and we should have this running shortly. * I have increased the size of the toolbar icons from 24x24 to 32x32 . This makes it more finger friendly on the mid device. * Continued test and bug fix. Carl -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
