Re: Feedback on Ubuntu Mobile - 7-9 device edition.
I have the same issue, I can mount them using CLI or GParted where they mount by default as a CDROM but they do not auto mount. Ryan. Turgut Durduran wrote: I am following up once more on my own message. Regarding the mounting of USB sticks, I just realized that I *could* mount them from the command line as root but they do *not* generally get automounted. Automount returns the error I have mentioned. Turgut --- http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~durduran - Original Message From: Turgut Durduran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:56:12 AM Subject: Re: Feedback on Ubuntu Mobile - 7-9 device edition. Hi Oliver, Thanks for your response and suggestions. My comments are interdispersed below. Am Montag, den 06.10.2008, 16:18 -0700 schrieb Turgut Durduran: Continuing on the same thread the four-directional arrows (surrounding the enter key) on Samsung Q1Ultra appear to be disfunctional. Pressing right button brings up menus, left button prints ~ on my terminal window, up button brings up help screens (just ended up with 50 or so of them trying to scroll up/down) etc. use the joystick on the left for terminal input (switching to joystick mode) the four directions are assigned to the cursor keys. Hmm. I get the same behavior in both modes. Is there any debugging output I can send you? I also tried manually typing suspend/hibernate commands: pm-suspend --- does nothing pm-suspend-hybrid disconnects network but that is about it. pm-hibernate -- ditto. disconnects network. try: sudo apt-get remove uswwsusp uswsusp was pulled in through an erroneous merge from debian, we will likely remove it completely from the ubuntu archive before final release, currently the workaround is to just uninstall the package, so teh in-kernel suspend methods can be used again. There is progress now; 1- from menus, it hibernated but did not wake up. I end up with a black screen with a cursor blinking. only think I can see is this error that appears for a while: [478.478177 btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f4c20d00 failed to resubmit (2) I tried it tried 3 times with same results. 2- from terminal sudo pm-hibernate works little better but appears to be unstable. It worked 2/5 tries. I wonder if (1) failed because of unstability too? 3- from terminal sudo pm-suspend works fine. Is there a reason there is no suspend button in GNOME menus? (could any of this be due to an error during boot-up related to some BIOS-bug? I can not type the number it disappears too fast) I do not have a keyboard I can use to test the logs more carefully right now. I also could not mount my USB stick. Quick look at logs suggest that it thought that it was a CD-ROM ??. was that on a installed system ? it might be that in teh live image USB keys are considered CDroms for installaer purposes. it is an installed system. I just tried a few different USB sticks and the internal card reader. all behave the same. This is what shows up in the logs with the internal card reader (similar things with USB sticks too) Oct 7 10:32:43 gonedra kernel: [ 866.340209] usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9 Oct 7 10:32:43 gonedra kernel: [ 866.531623] usb 5-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Oct 7 10:32:43 gonedra kernel: [ 866.563176] scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 7 10:32:48 gonedra kernel: [ 871.565895] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access MultiFlash Reader 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.072328] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15954944 512-byte hardware sectors (8169 MB) Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.074078] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.085954] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15954944 512-byte hardware sectors (8169 MB) Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.089703] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.096643] sdb: Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.099492] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.102742] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.739429] UDF-fs: No VRS found Oct 7 10:32:49 gonedra kernel: [ 872.853061] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Supporting Ubuntu Mobile
I think TAL has a good point that there's an opportunity here that could take root if given more support from the back-end. Over the last week we've all seen the active response from users too which is an even better indication that this distro could be worth focusing on by both the community and Canonical. Its great to hear that Canonical are putting weight behind it then. Thanks for the feedback from Emmet. As a further encouragement to Canonical and the community I want to say that I am personally getting queries from OEMs and manufacturers about what I think of Linux on netbooks and UMPCs. They are worried about the user experience and (possibly unfounded) reports of higher return rates for Linux-based netbooks. OEMs want a solution and they want a well-recognised solution but if there's a risk of it damaging their brand, they wont take it. It's here that I see Canonical playing the main role. You are obviously talkingn to OEMs directly in the b/g but how about tempting other OEMs and developers via high quality branded blogs and not via IRC (Please, IRC is great but users, OEMs, ISVs, resellers jsut dont have the time to participate. ) or mailing lists. Canonical also need to do marketing. Now. Not when Ubuntu Mobile is launched. Its almost funny that this distro was announced on a personal blog until you realise what potential we're talking about here. Ubuntu Mobile seems to be taking root. ISVs and community members need reasons to join now. Canonical need to provide the feedback that gives them confidence that this project will go forward with aggression, good end-user focus and with long-term goals to become the de-facto choice on netbooks and medium sized touchscreen devices. I have a to-do to write another Ubuntu Mobile article soon bul will probably fire a few questions to Canonical PR before I do that. I'll try and tie it in with the first release at end of October with a new video. I'll also be campaigning for Poulsbo/SCH/GMA500 support for the next release as I know some OEMs that are looking for a solution here. (Some faith in Ubuntu-MID appears to have been lost through the delays with the Gigabyte M528/Compal JAX10 device.) Good luck to all for Intrepid release. Steve On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Emmet Hikory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tal Beno wrote: I wish to comment please on Steve's original mail as well as on the overall reply that Steve got from Mr. Emmet Hikory. Although I've been replying to a number of these mails, it's not that I'm someone particularly special when it comes to Ubuntu Mobile: I'm just a user who was unsatisfied with both Ubuntu MID and Ubuntu Desktop on my Kohjinsha SR. Oliver credits me with some help with the installer, but that truly belongs to the many contributors to the installer technologies used, some originating in Ubuntu, and some in Debian. I may be an Ubuntu Developer, but that's just because I've been an Ubuntu user and contributor for long enough that someone granted me upload rights (I have not checked to see if any of my patches are in Ubuntu Mobile). Nothing I'm saying represents anything other than my opinion, and shouldn't be taken as a statement of policy of any sort. But as many analysts are claiming the Linux landscape is way too fractured in general and on the mobile front, so to make this one stand out of the crowd and give MS a real fight (as with the desktop edition) Canonical can't throw it on the community as a prime resource, at least not at this stage. I beg to argue that this is all a big waste of time if you don't intend realizing the huge potential you have in your hands, and invest much more resources on its success. The community will follow only when seeing your own initial commitment ... I take great issue with this assertion. Ubuntu is developed by a large and diverse community, and that Ubuntu Mobile is developed entirely within and as part of Ubuntu is surely a good means by which to ensure that the work done includes the work of the largest number of interested parties. While is it certainly true that Canonical offers significant support to Ubuntu, including almost all of the infrastructure and funding for a number of the developers (I believe it to be over 10%, including more than a third of the most active developers, although I could be mistaken), for which much appreciation is deserved, it is not the case that Ubuntu Mobile is something which Canonical is throwing on the community, nor is it the case that Ubuntu Mobile being community created and community supported necessarily means that nobody associated with Canonical will be involved in that community. While Oliver has created the initial preview image for Ubuntu Mobile, the idea originates from the UDS held in Prague, has been discussed in the #ubuntu-mobile channel in freenode for some time, and relies heavily on the work of the entire Ubuntu community in order to function as
Re: Feedback on Ubuntu Mobile - 7-9 device edition.
Hello all, Following up once more on my message about the mounting of USB sticks, SD cards via the internal card reader etc. I have found the problem. For some reason fstab had a line: /dev/sdb /media/crom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 00 This meant anything I inserted and got recognized as /dev/sdb was being mounted as a cdrom which ofcourse was not working. Removing that line solves the problem. I do not know why that line is included in the fstab by default. I did *not* ever use a CDROM on this device. It must be a distro image bug. Turgut -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Supporting Ubuntu Mobile
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 14:11, Steve Paine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Some faith in Ubuntu-MID appears to have been lost through the delays with the Gigabyte M528/Compal JAX10 device.) Good luck to all for Intrepid release. Steve It is also not helping that this device requires some proprietary drivers that seems to rule Ubuntu and other open operating systems out (both Hardy and Intrepid) :-( I'd love to see this fixed! -- Tero -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
