Re: Jaunty Mobile

2009-04-29 Thread Turgut Durduran





From: Jeff yam...@gmail.com
To: Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com
Cc: Ubuntu Mobile ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:03:05 PM
Subject: Jaunty Mobile

I can not find Mobile in the Jaunty folder in  releases.ubuntu.com  . Did it 
get moved? I only see NetBook Remix


i am bit puzzled by this too.


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Re: Jaunty Mobile

2009-04-29 Thread Emmet Hikory
Jeff wrote:
 I can not find Mobile in the Jaunty folder in  releases.ubuntu.com
 http://releases.ubuntu.com  . Did it get moved? I only see NetBook Remix

There is no separate UMPC release for Jaunty.  In many ways, the
goals of the UMPC flavour were identical to the goals of the Netbook
Remix, and there were several sets of instructions on partially enabling
the Netbook Remix interface for the UMPC release in intrepid.  During
the Jaunty cycle, the code and packages previously in the Netbook Remix
were brought up to date and integrated with Ubuntu, resulting in a
release as a flavour of Ubuntu, rather than a derivative.

Those that prefer the previous interface are probably best served by
installing Desktop, and then installing the intrepid ubuntu-mobile
package.  I'm not sure if this works (I haven't tried it).  If someone
wants to take over maintenance of the settings package and associated
bits to work in Karmic, that is certainly a solution, but those
previously maintaining it have merged their efforts with the Netbook Remix.

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Re: Jaunty Mobile

2009-04-29 Thread Emmet Hikory
Turgut Durduran wrote:
 You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like
 it.  That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs.
 
 I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I 
 started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated 
 it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved 
 to the mobile and I find it quite useful. 
 
 I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to 
 a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate?

I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work.  There's no
special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find
the results a bit unpolished.  If you're comfortable working with a
package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion.  If
you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier.

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Re: Jaunty Mobile

2009-04-29 Thread Ramaddan
Hi,

I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not
integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a
TabletPC),
so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I
was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the
release for yourself first before doing anything else.

The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the
netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's
folder.

So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the
Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time.

Regards,
Ramaddan

Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM:
Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile
Turgut Durduran wrote:
 You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like
 it.  That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your
needs.
 
 I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I
started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really
hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc)
and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. 
 
 I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not
attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that
accurate?

I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work.  There's no
special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find
the results a bit unpolished.  If you're comfortable working with a
package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion.  If
you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier.

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Re: Jaunty Mobile

2009-04-29 Thread Ramaddan
Hi,

I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not
integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a
TabletPC),
so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I
was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the
release for yourself first before doing anything else.

The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the
netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's
folder.

So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the
Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time.

Regards,
Ramaddan

Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM:
Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile
Turgut Durduran wrote:
 You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like
 it.  That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your
needs.
 
 I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I
started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really
hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc)
and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. 
 
 I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not
attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that
accurate?

I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work.  There's no
special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find
the results a bit unpolished.  If you're comfortable working with a
package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion.  If
you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier.

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Re: Jaunty Mobile (correction)

2009-04-29 Thread Ramaddan
Hi,

Actually, there are two packages, one called ubuntu-mobile and one called
ubuntu-mobile-default-settings which was not removed after upgrade to
Jaunty.

The ubuntu-mobile package seems to install the packages required for
ubuntu-mobile, and the ubuntu-mobile-default-settings are the settings for
these packages.

Can anyone confirm this? I did not have time to look deeply into these
packages, and sorry for the earlier double post.

Thanks

Ramaddan  ramad...@gawab.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 12:00 PM:
Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile
Hi,

I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not
integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a
TabletPC),
so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I
was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the
release for yourself first before doing anything else.

The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the
netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's
folder.

So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the
Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time.

Regards,
Ramaddan

Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM:
Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile
Turgut Durduran wrote:
 You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you
like
 it.  That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your
needs.
 
 I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I
started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really
hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc)
and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. 
 
 I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not
attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that
accurate?

I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work.  There's no
special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find
the results a bit unpolished.  If you're comfortable working with a
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you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier.

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Re: Jaunty Mobile

2009-04-29 Thread John Rudd
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:00, Ramaddan ramad...@gawab.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not
 integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a
 TabletPC),


What issues did it give?


 so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I
 was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the
 release for yourself first before doing anything else.

 The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the
 netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's
 folder.

 So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the
 Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time.

 Regards,
 Ramaddan

 Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM:
 Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile
Turgut Durduran wrote:
     You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like
 it.  That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your
needs.

 I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I
started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really
hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc)
and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful.

 I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not
attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that
accurate?

    I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work.  There's no
special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find
the results a bit unpolished.  If you're comfortable working with a
package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion.  If
you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier.

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