Re: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Zhu, Peter J" 

| Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > * Matt Zimmerman
| > 
| >> Is there an update already in progress?
| > 
| > Yes, right now.
| 
| Does it mean you are uploading hildon-theme-ume-basic to gutsy? 

No, it means I'm uploading a new ubuntu-meta which makes ubuntu-mobile
depend on moblin-media so it automatically gets pulled in when you
install the mobile fset.

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RE: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-15 Thread Zhu, Peter J
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Matt Zimmerman
> 
>> Is there an update already in progress?
> 
> Yes, right now.
> 
Hi Tollef,

Does it mean you are uploading hildon-theme-ume-basic to gutsy? 

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Matt Zimmerman 

| Is there an update already in progress?

Yes, right now.

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Re: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 03:55:40PM -0700, Villalovos, John L wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it
> > did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not
> > work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it
> > simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I
> > see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this
> > (ASAP)? 
> 
> It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to
> moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not
> yet been updated.

Is there an update already in progress?

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RE: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-11 Thread Spencer, Bob
Peter,
Ken and I walked through it and he was able to get an image on his Q1.
Let's see... where we left off was that he wasn't able to see some
images from the theme, but he should have something usable.
Bob 

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Villalovos, John L wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it 
>> did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not 
>> work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it 
>> simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I 
>> see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this 
>> (ASAP)?
> 
> It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to 
> moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not

> yet been updated.
> 
> John
Ken

Based on what John said, I suggest you get moblin-image-creator from
"git clone http://www.moblin.org/repos/tools/moblin-image-creator.git";
and have a try to sustain your work. 

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RE: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-11 Thread Zhu, Peter J
Villalovos, John L wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it
>> did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not
>> work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it
>> simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I
>> see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this
>> (ASAP)?
> 
> It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to
> moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not
> yet been updated.
> 
> John
Ken

Based on what John said, I suggest you get moblin-image-creator from
"git clone http://www.moblin.org/repos/tools/moblin-image-creator.git";
and have a try to sustain your work. 

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RE: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-11 Thread Villalovos, John L
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it
> did not boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not
> work and now I try to make a new image with image-creator and it
> simply b0rks on me. Without a running system to finish this stuff I
> see no way of moving forward. Can anyone offer any help on this
> (ASAP)? 

It is failing now, because mobile-player has been renamed to
moblin-media, and the version of moblin-image-creator in Gutsy has not
yet been updated.

John

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Re: Ken: Theme conversation today

2007-10-11 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi,

At this point in time I guess we need to do whatever we can to get things 
included. Sad that we spent more time discussing how to do this the right way 
than actually doing it the right way but now is not the time to discuss that 
I guess.

We can cut up the template that I have ready (although there are certainly a 
few problems with it and the gtkrc is proabably nowhere near correct) and 
then try to figure out which pieces are missing and get them done by hand.

My biggest problem at this point is: a week ago I installed and it did not 
boot anymore, two days ago I installed and the xterm did not work and now I 
try to make a new image with image-creator and it simply b0rks on me. Without 
a running system to finish this stuff I see no way of moving forward. Can 
anyone offer any help on this (ASAP)?

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Ken

On Thursday 11 October 2007 20:47:43 Spencer, Bob wrote:
> Ken, FYI
>
> #ume-theme
>   [INFO]   Channel view for "#ume-theme
>  " opened.
>   -->| YOU (bspencer) have joined #ume-theme
> 
>>
> Can you call Peter?
>   bspencer: ^
>  agoliveira: howdy
>>
> Cool. I'm back. I called Peter in case he's still around.
>   Ready when you are.
>  ok
>   Peter might come
>   he was getting tired
>   next steps from now until tomorrow's deadline
>   do we want to use your new theme in gutsy?
>   if so, we need to work on it today. if not then we will just
> stick to hildon-theme-mobile-basic for gutsy and worry about the real
> ume-basic theme after
>>
> I have no idea and about tomorrow's deadline, to tell you the truth, I
> just heard about it today.
>  I don't think that gutsy is crucial
>   -->| Peter_u2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/intel/x-f83f290a7d67b7d2) has
> joined #ume-theme 
>  Peter_u2: howdy
>>
> Me too. All and all, I just finished the code for this stuff, it wasn't
> tested yet.
>> howdy,
> bspencer and agoliveira.
>  agoliveira: I'm not so worried about including
> the theme building tools in gutsy
>   just the finished theme
>>
> Ok, let's start from the start. Let me explain what I have done.
>  if it is not possible to get ken your tools,
> then have him finish the theme by friday, we can just look beyond friday
>
>> yes,
> ken agree with that as well to catch up schedule
>>
> Mear with me if you knwo what I telling you, I just want to organize my
> thoughts :)
>   Bear
>  agoliveira: we are patiently listening...
>>
> Sorry, my hands hurt... anyway...
>>
> agoliveira, go on your thought.
>   agoliveira, sorry to hear that
>>
> 1) We have the hildon-theme-tools that svn's a source package from
> Maemo's repo so you can mess with it and create a theme package.
>   2) What I did was to take a theme package from ken, polish it a
> bit and call it "base". The new tools do an apt-get source on this
> package so you can tinker with it and upload it to be used with the same
> name or other name, it does not matter.
>   3) It took me more time than I expect to come up with this
> simple solution, sorry.
>   So now we are in this situation:
>  so there is a theme called ume-base in gutsy
> repo?
>
>   > The new tools do an apt-get source on this package ??
>
>>
> No, I 'm getting there
>> If you
> can't make it, sending source by mail is ok.
>>
> The tools do an apt-get source but the package is not in the ubuntu repo
> yet, I want to test it and check it with ken first so it's on my PPA.
>> So you
> might can use keyboard less.
>  agoliveira: before we uplaod it, can we put it
> on LP for us to play with too?
>>
> So, let me explain in what point we are:
>   bspencer: I'll explain that too in a momjent
>   1) I have the modified tools and the source and binary theme
>  "modified tools" means they account for UME
> graphics that are not in Hildon ?
>   (like marquee) ?
>>
> bspencer: I have no idea, I just got the package from ken and AFAIK,
> there's nothing like this on it. The tools are using just the standard
> images AFAIK.
>   2) The process should be that I send you the tools and you
> whould be able to use them to get the source from my PPA and build your
> binary.
>   3) The problem is that I wasn't expecting to do it right now,
> just monday
>   bspencer: I just modified the tools to be able to grab the
> package we are going to use as a base, I didn't change it's behaviour to
> include other itens.
>   I didn't even know if it's what you needed/wanted.
>>
> agoliveira, according to ken, you try to address issue of bootstrap
> downloading layout.txt from maemo repo.
>>
> Yes, when you select the our package it does an apt-get source on it
> instead of swvn as I explained above
>> but
> IMHO, we n