Re: universe-contributors

2008-07-06 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi,

On Saturday 05 July 2008 21:10:11 Soren Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:07:00PM +0200, Stefan Potyra wrote:
> > first off, it's great to have a team to grant ubuntu-membership to
> > prospective MOTU's.
> >
> > However I have the feeling, that we create the impression, that being
> > a member of this team is more than just what it is, which is at the
> > moment to indirectly be in the group of ubuntu-members.
> >
> > Imho, that gives a wrong perspective for members of that team, and we
> > should fix this.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean? What exactly is you think people expect to
> achieve by becoming a member of universe-contributors, but don't?

I believe that there is expectation to have additional privileges apart from 
plain ubuntu-membership when being accepted as a universe-contributor. As 
Nathan already pointed out, this is partly reflected in the wiki page, and I'd 
like to add that the team description [1] is also a bit misleading. Currently, 
I have the feeling that we've just added another step in the process of 
becoming MOTU (and hence prolonged that procedure) even though it doesn't 
grant practical benefits to be a member of universe-contributors.

Now the question however is how to fix this:
a) to make it clear that universe-contributors is just ubuntu membership on 
behalf of MOTU activity

or 

b) to actually hand out additional privileges, ranging from being able to 
triage bugs to being able to upload a set of packages (as soon as LP can do 
this). IIRC there were some good ideas back during the initial discussion 
about universe-contributors, might eventually make sense to revisit these.

Cheers,
   Stefan.
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[1]: https://launchpad.net/~universe-contributors


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True Xchat transparency

2008-07-06 Thread Sebb Clarke
Hi Folks,

I was browsing on the web for this feature as having pseudo transparency
looks a bit funny with gnome-terminal etc having true transparency. I saw
this forum thread http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3187 and wondered
why this feature isnt in the default xchat ubuntu packages.

Other than that, thanks very much for all the hardwork you put in :)

Seb
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