Launchpad options for WNPP support

2008-11-18 Thread Emmet Hikory
Fellow Developers,
I spoke briefly with Björn Tillenius about options for handling the
WNPP mess.  Launchpad does not currently support pseudopackages, and
this is not planned.  There is a workflow bug with using an Ubuntu WNPP
project (0), but this can be prioritised for resolution if there is a
strong use case (e.g. we really want it).  I'd like to invite further
discussion around managing the list of requested packages, leading to a
request to the our Lauchpad Liaison to increase the priority of this bug
if required.

Personally, I feel any selected system should meet the following goals:

1)  Allow users to request packages for inclusion in a relatively
painless manner

2)  Provide a facility to search easily through existing requests to
determine if the package has already been requested.

3)  Provide a means to link to Debian RFP/ITP bugs so that if a bug is
closed in Debian, this information can be made available to the
requesting user, and ease the job of removing obsolete requests.

4)  Not require additional authorisation or other activity that might
decrease the ease for a developer to review requests to see if there are
any packages of specific interest.

0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/80902

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MOTU Meeting Minutes for 2008-11-14

2008-11-18 Thread Emmet Hikory
== Review MOTU Decision process ==

Emmet Hikory led a discussion to talk about how the current decision
process (0) was working for MOTU, and if it suited out needs.  Some
people expressed dissatisfaction with stagnation of ideas and
discussions on the mailing lists.  Others expressed concern that with
current low attendance at MOTU Meetings, any meeting-based procedure may
leave some people unrepresented.

There was a side discussion on the impact of changes in the decision
policy on attendance to MOTU Meetings, and how to ensure that
discussions led to conclusions, rather than being left to age in the
mailing list archives.  Morten Kjeldgaard volunteered to organise
discussion on the mailing list for a more streamlined procedure, where
most operational decisions would be taken in MOTU Meetings, and anything
that seemed unfinished or likely to benefit from significant discussion
would use the current more complex decision policy.

There was also side discussion on whether the current MOTU Meeting times
might be a factor in attendance, and how to change the times to better
suit more people.  Given geographic distribution, and that all major
timezone clusters were represented in the meeting, no better times were
identified.

== Discuss usefulness of a wnpp package for use with Ubuntu ITPs ==

Emmet Hikory led a discussion about management of needs-packaging bugs,
which are currently cluttering up the bugs-without-a-package list, are
hard to search through, and are not carefully maintained, offering
Jordan Mantha's suggestion that perhaps using a "wnpp" pseudopackage as
is done in Debian would have some merit.

Opinions ranged from putting needs-packaging on brainstorm, going back
to using a wiki page, ignoring the mess, mass-uploading all Ubuntu-local
stuff to Debian, and using a wnpp launchpad project.  Many people
expressed the opinion that having a pseudopackage would be bad, even if
Launchpad could support it, and having an Ubuntu-local "wnpp" package
would be prone to cause confusion.  Emmet was assigned to speak with the
Launchpad developers and report to MOTU as to what options launchpad
could support towards making an appropriate decision.

0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Decisions

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Re: [Bug 276181] Re: gadmin-proftpd crashes on startup

2008-11-18 Thread Stephan van Ingen
Were can we address this to upgrade the version of the repository?

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I un-installed the version from the repository.
I downloaded gadmin-proftpd_0.3.5-2_i386.deb from
http://debian.cs.binghamton.edu/debian/pool/main/g/gadmin-proftpd/ and than
one works, so just move the version upstream to the Ubuntu-repository and
close this: right?


2008/11/18 Morticae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Confirming bug still present as of 11/18/08
>
> --
> gadmin-proftpd crashes on startup
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276181
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