Re: RFS: smplayer (updated package)

2009-04-21 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:02:58 +0200
Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org wrote:

 
 Maia Kozheva inetper...@gmail.com writes:
 
  - It does no harm in Debian as it is, except for debcheck warnings.
  - mplayer-nogui is available in Ubuntu, and I would rather keep the
  same package in Debian and Ubuntu.
  - mplayer-nogui is available in debian-multimedia.org, which many
  Debian users install mplayer from for extra patent-restricted
  codecs.
  - There is a bug report (#523842) in Debian itself to add an
  mplayer-nogui package, confirmed by one of the maintainers, so I
  presume an mplayer-nogui package may appear in Debian soon.
 
 I think we really should replace the mplayer package from multiverse
 with the package currently in debian/main.
 

Since we are on the subject, I'd rather have an mplayer package without
gui (gmplayer is buggy/obsolete and unmaintained, mplayer upstream are
actually recommending it to not be distributed) and, if really
necessary, have an mplayer-gui (or gmplayer) package with the gui alone.
With the excellent stand-alone gui's we have today (smplayer, kmplayer,
gnome-mplayer) this is what makes the most sense.

Cesare

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Bug#523842: I'd rather remove gmplayer from the mplayer package

2009-04-21 Thread Reinhard Tartler

CC'ing mplayer-dev-eng for input.

Context: We are currently discussing here the debian package of
mplayer. The question is about mplayer-gui/gmpayer. Currently both gui
and non-gui versions are shipped in the same package. Should the gui
version of mplayer be included in the debian package at all, or only in
a seperate package?

Cesare Tirabassi norse...@ubuntu.com writes:

 With the current status of the gui as shipped by mplayer upstream (old,
 buggy and unmaintained, mplayer upstream is actually recommending it to
 not be distributed) and with the excellent standalone gui's we have
 today (smplayer, kmplayer, gnome-mplayer, etc.) it really doesn't make
 any sense to have the gui included in the mplayer package.
 Instead of adding an mplayer-nogui package I think that it would really
 makes sense to remove the gui from the mplayer package and, if really
 deemed necessary, have an mplayer-gui (or gmplayer) package which
 includes the deprecated gui.

I think this is an interesting point.

Diego, Andrea, how do you feel about that? We could save quite some
depenendencies from the mplayer package by just dropping
mplayer-gui/gmplayer.

Is the state of mplayer-gui/gmplayer really that bad as Cesare suggests?

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Re: RFS: smplayer (updated package)

2009-04-21 Thread Maia Kozheva
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Cesare Tirabassi wrote:
 Since we are on the subject, I'd rather have an mplayer package without
 gui (gmplayer is buggy/obsolete and unmaintained, mplayer upstream are
 actually recommending it to not be distributed) and, if really
 necessary, have an mplayer-gui (or gmplayer) package with the gui alone.
 With the excellent stand-alone gui's we have today (smplayer, kmplayer,
 gnome-mplayer) this is what makes the most sense.
 
 Cesare
 

Makes sense to me. I never understood why the mplayer binary was shipped in two
conflicting packages, and removing gmplayer from the mplayer package would allow
us to simplify dependencies for smplayer, kplayer, etc.

I think the gmplayer binary should be moved into a separate binary package
called gmplayer, and mplayer-nogui made transitional to mplayer.

I would suggest also discussing this issue with Christian Marillat of
debian-multimedia.org.
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Re: RFS: smplayer (updated package)

2009-04-21 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Maia Kozheva si...@ubuntu.com writes:

 I would suggest also discussing this issue with Christian Marillat of
 debian-multimedia.org.

Good luck with that.

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Verbiste 0.1.25 in jaunty-backports?

2009-04-21 Thread jpfleury
Hi,

The version of Verbiste in Jaunty is 0.1.23-1, but the last version of
this software is 0.1.25. Is it possible to add the latest version in
jaunty-backports repository?

Regards,

Jean-Philippe

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Re: Verbiste 0.1.25 in jaunty-backports?

2009-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:58:54 -0400 jpfleury cont...@jpfleury.net wrote:
Hi,

The version of Verbiste in Jaunty is 0.1.23-1, but the last version of
this software is 0.1.25. Is it possible to add the latest version in
jaunty-backports repository?

Not until after it's in Karmic (which want be possible even in theory for a 
couple of weeks after Jaunty's release).

Scott K

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