Re: New Debian Package Calendarserver 5.1

2014-04-04 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Rahul Amaram
amaramra...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 I am the debian maintainer for Apple calendaserver. I have just finished
 packaging and testing the latest calendarserver stable release 5.1.

 I would like to know if it would be possible to get 5.1 into the next
 LTS.
 The current version 3.2 is sort of outdated and it would be good to have
 5.1.

 I can help with any testing and patches to expedite the process of
 having
 5.1 running in the next version of Ubuntu LTS.

 Agree with what rbasak said. If you install ubuntu-dev-tools
 (available in debian) you can execute requestsync tool with -e
 flag which will assist in correctly filing post-Feature Freeze sync
 bug.

 I have raised a bug using requestsync -
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290218 . Let us hope it gets through :).

 - Rahul.


 Just curious as the trusty release is almost on the corner. Could I know if
 there any idea to still have calendarserver 5.1 into Trusty? I have not got
 any response on the ticket that I have raised -
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1290218 .

I imagine the release team is a bit backed up at the moment. There are
a few things that you could do that would help make sure that when
they do look at it you'll get a positive response rather than a
request for more information. Namely:

- Attach a diff of the upstream ChangeLog (not debian/changelog), or
some other summery of upstream changes
- Attach a log of a package build on trusty
- Describe any testing done on trusty

Check out: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze_for_new_upstream_versions

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Re: Bug: #1211091 [needs-packaging] Final Term

2014-04-02 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jörg Frings-Fürst
ubu...@jff-webhosting.net wrote:
 Bug: #1211091 [needs-packaging] Final Term
 Homepage: http://finalterm.org/
 Orig-Source: https://github.com/p-e-w/finalterm.git
 License: GPL 3

Thanks for your work on this, but I'm not sure that packaging
finalterm for a stable Ubuntu release is a great idea at this point.
Their homepage states quite clearly that:

Final Term is in heavy development and neither stable nor feature complete!

Their daily build ppa is probably a better choice: ppa:finalterm/daily

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Re: Ubuntu Platform developers BOF session?

2013-11-08 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Robert Park robert.p...@canonical.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
 a.star...@gmail.com wrote:
  * UDD
   - bzr-builddeb hasn't seen any real development in some time. I've


 H. bzr-builddeb works fine for me. The problem is with the UDD
 *branches*, which are an unmitigated disaster.

Sure. As I said, these are some topics that I'd personally bring up.
bzr-builddeb is in usable shape, but like any piece of software has a
number of bugs. Right now, the Launchpad team that has commit access
to it is ~bzr-builddeb-hackers, which is mostly made up of people who
have moved on to other things. If ~ubuntu-dev had commit rights, like
for ubuntu-dev-tools, there is potential to empower people who use it
day to day to fix the nagging little issues they hit and expand the
universe of people able to do code reviews.

I did originally have a second bullet point under that topic about the
general state of UDD, but I deleted it before sending. I didn't want
to open that can of worms myself as I don't have any real solutions.
It's unlikely that the well-known problems are going to be fixed
unless Canonical decides to reinvest resources into UDD. It seems
pretty obvious the community can't/won't take over driving it forward
(though I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

Though since we're talking about it, the one stop gap fix that would
make me happy would be if all Ubuntu Developers could trigger the
equivalent of the local 'requeue_package.py --full' command that UDD
admins can run. Some history might get lost, but at least out of date
branches could be made usable.

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Ubuntu Platform developers BOF session?

2013-11-07 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Hi all,

With the next vUDS approaching quickly, I wanted to check in and gauge
interest in an Ubuntu Platform developers BOF session. I envision a
general health check sort of session, but of course if there is
sufficient interest in any particular topic we could have specific
sessions. There are a few topics that I personally would bring up in
such a session:

 * Sponsoring
  - We generally keep the queue below 100 items, but it is rare that
it drops below 25. Are we satisfied with this performance? Are there
process or tooling improvements that we can make? Feedback from
sponsorees?

 * Packaging Guide
  - Since the last time there was an UDS session on the Packaging
Guide, we completed the transition to the sphinx-based guide from the
wiki-based guide. It would be good to get feedback now that this has
been in place for a few cycles.

 * Developer recruitment, training, etc...
  - We saw a decrease in both total contributors and new contributors
in the saucy cycle. Should we be concerned? What can we do to improve?

 * UDD
  - bzr-builddeb hasn't seen any real development in some time. I've
become the Debian maintainer recently, but I've only done some spring
cleaning of the packaging, added autopkgtests, and fixed some test
failures. I wonder if would make sense for ~ubuntu-dev should become
the project owner?

I'm sure there are many other possible topics. Feel free to collect
them in this thread.

So what do you say, would this sort of session be worthwhile?

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Re: dh-make or dh_make

2013-07-11 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn
lafeber-dumole...@zonnet.nl wrote:
 Sorry to bother you again about this, but I noticed that both dh-make and
 dh_make exist. I am not sure what the difference is, but it is probable not
 a spelling mistake in the ubuntu-packaging-guide.pdf (see my earlier
 message).

It is a bit confusing. 'dh_make'  is the name of the command that
comes from package 'dh-make'

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Re: Anarchist FAQ update

2012-12-06 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Bidwell Boitano
jbidwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there. I just found this email from the ubuntu package repository. I'd
 like to ask you if you could update the package with the new version of the
 anarchist faq http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/index.html It would be
 very helpful because it's the final version (after the release of the second
 printed volume).

The most recent version, 14.0-2, is availiable in the current
development release, raring, that will become Ubuntu 13.04. If you'd
like it to be available in earlier releases, you should look into the
backports process. See:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports#Requesting_a_Backport

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MOTU Meeting dates? [Was: Dealing with unsuitable changes (Was: Re: Clearing the queues)]

2012-11-29 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 we just discussed this at the MOTU meeting and one concern was that
 'old' or 'unsuitable' items clog up the queue. It'd be great if you
 could all review

Eeek. There was a MOTU meeting today? The wiki [1] has the next one
scheduled for next week, Thursday, December 6th 2012, 16:00 UTC.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Headers/NextMOTUMeeting

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Re: MOTU School session coming up on July 31st at 1400 UTC

2012-07-31 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Bhavani Shankar R bh...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Bhavani Shankar
 right2bshan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 29-Jul-2012, at 7:48 PM, Bhavani Shankar R bh...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 The second session in the MOTU school series is coming up on July 31st
 (i.e The coming Tuesday) at 1400 UTC at #ubuntu-classroom on
 irc.freenode.net

 Topic is  Introduction to Release Critical (RC) bug fixing workflow
 in Ubuntu/Debian

 Join Stefano Rivera, A Debian Developer who will take you through
 release critical bug fixing process and its specifics with examples to
 get you started off with the same!

I wasn't able to attend, but wanted to share the link to the log:

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/31/%23ubuntu-classroom.html

Thanks Stefanfo and Bhavani!

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Re: Request for review

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Park ro...@gottengeography.ca wrote:
 9) You should add a debian/watch file if you release source tarballs.

 Any advice on what a watch file would look like for this github page?

 https://github.com/robru/gottengeography/tags

Gunnar Wolf helpfully provides a re-director series that makes this simple:

http://githubredir.debian.net/

So your would probably look like:

version=3
http://githubredir.debian.net/github/robru/gottengeography (.*).tar.gz

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MOTU meeting on Thu July 26th, 16:00 UTC

2012-07-23 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Hi all,

Keeping with our schedule of 16:00 UTC every fortnight, the next MOTU
meeting is will be held on this Thursday, July 26th 2012 at 16.00 UTC
[1].

Please add anything you want to discuss to the agenda [2]. The last
meeting was a bit sparsely attended, and it would be nice to seem more
of you there.

[1] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=MOTU+Meetingiso=20120726T16
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings

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Re: MOTU meeting on Thu 12 July, 16:00 UTC

2012-07-12 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Bhavani Shankar R bh...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Bhavani Shankar R bh...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 A gentle remainder that the next MOTU meeting is scheduled to be held
 on 12th July 2012 at 16.00 UTC.

 Kindly request you to add anything you want to discuss on the agenda here:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings
 A gentle remainder again that the meeting is scheduled for 2 days from now.


Hi all,

Below you'll find the minutes and a link to the full log from today's
MOTU meeting. We discussed the recent MOTU School class and plans for
upcoming ones.

The next MOTU meeting was scheduled for 26 July. Hopefully we'll see
more of you there.

Meeting started by asomething at 16:18:58 UTC.  The full logs are available at:
http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-12-16.18.log.html

== Meeting summary ==

*MOTU School Doodle poll results update and discussion
''ACTION:'' coolbhavi, merge
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School  (asomething, 16:29:00)
''ACTION:'' asomething, help blog about the next motu school session
(asomething, 16:33:36)
''LINK:'' http://doodle.com/w9p6hh43hfwk8xmp   (asomething, 16:42:14)
''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2012-June/007267.html
  (asomething, 16:42:26)
27th July will be the MOTU School next class, still needs an
instructor  (asomething, 16:43:41)

*Next MOTU meeting
''ACTION:'' asomething, send out meeting minutes  (asomething, 16:49:42)
''ACTION:'' asomething, update wiki headers and send out reminders for
next meeting  (asomething, 16:50:10)

Meeting ended at 16:51:42 UTC.

== Action items ==

 * coolbhavi, merge https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School
 * asomething, help blog about the next motu school session
 * asomething, send out meeting minutes
 * asomething, update wiki headers and send out reminders for next meeting

== Action items, by person ==

 * asomething
 ** asomething, help blog about the next motu school session
 ** asomething, send out meeting minutes
 ** asomething, update wiki headers and send out reminders for next meeting
 * coolbhavi
 ** coolbhavi, merge https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School

 == People present (lines said) ==

 * asomething (29)
 * coolbhavi (22)
 * meetingology (7)
 * tumbleweed (1)

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Re: What do you want MOTU to be in Q, R and S?

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 with only a week to go until 12.04 is released, it might be a good time
 to think about what MOTU is to you and what you feel it should be in the
 next few releases.

 This team has been existing for as long as Ubuntu has been around and
 one thing we've been doing since the early days is: being there for new
 contributors and bringing them into the fold. In my mind this is (among
 many others of course) the most important thing MOTU has contributed to
 Ubuntu.

 Not limited to my personal assessment above, I'd still like to hear from
 you (no matter if you're a MOTU old-timer or a new contributor) is what
 do you feel we do well and what do you feel we should change?

A lot of time has gone by with no response to this thread. The silence
in both this thread and this list in general saddens me a bit. For
myself, and I imagine for at least some others, the lack of response
hasn't been because I don't care about the future of the MOTU. It's
that over the past few cycles the team has dwindled to the point where
it is hard to see what it even does. Much of this is of course due to
many of MOTU's traditional responsibilities having been superseeded by
newer institutions and norms: archive-reorg/package-sets, the
Developer Membership Board, a stronger emphasis new packages going
through Debian. A lot of this is a good thing, but I feel that we've
lost some of the social cohesion that the team used to bring to Ubuntu
development. More developers are now scattered about their smaller
teams focused on their particular package-sets or pluging away alone
on the few packages they care about.

As Daniel mentioned, one of the most important contributions of this
team has been bringing new contributors into the fold. While things
like per-package upload rights are great for getting contributors with
a very narrow interest to help directly in Ubuntu, in the past I think
there was some value to the social pressure to help with package
outside your specific interest in order to get upload rights. Lowering
barriers to entry is extremely important and I wouldn't want us to
move backwards on this, but I wonder if maybe we could come up with
ideas to assert some sort of positive social pressure (in contrast to
the negative/restrictive pressure of saying you can't work on what you
want until you help with other things) for contributors to participate
in the maintenance of unseeded packages?

Another place where MOTU was valuable in the past that we seem to be
missing a bit now was as a kind of catch all team for pursuing random
bits like the Packaging Guide, training sessions, etc... Maybe these
things need to be pushed to ~ubuntu-dev? It just seems to me that
these kinds of things are less and less taking place/being planned in
public and more so by smaller groups of people.

One of the last discussions on the future of the MOTU defined the
team's mission as:

 * Maintaining packages that do not belong in any package-sets.
 * Providing guidance and training for new generalist developers.
 * Extended Quality Assurance functions.

Are we living up to this mission? Does this still make sense for us?
Has the MOTU simply out lived its usefulness?

 The feedback should be a good preparation for a MOTU session at UDS.

I haven't found a blueprint for this yet. Does it exist yet, or should
I file one?

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Re: What do you want MOTU to be in Q, R and S?

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Stefano Rivera stefa...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 I haven't found a blueprint for this yet. Does it exist yet, or should
 I file one?

 Not as far as I know, please do.

 If we didn't have a MOTU session, it'd be a sign that it's all over.
 Then again, a sad MOTU session isn't much better :/

Well, I'm glad to see that my ping to this thread generated some
discussion. I went ahead and registered:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-motu-bof

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Re: Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com

2011-11-23 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Am 07.11.2011 16:05, schrieb Daniel Holbach:
 Am 07.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
 On Nov 07, 2011, at 03:05 PM, Daniel Holbach wrote:

 For the procedure, I don't know if it's actually possible to redirect
 a mailing list to another.

 It can be done, but it will take someone with shell access to the mail 
 server
 to set it up correctly.  I'm happy to help work with the admins on that, 
 but I
 guess an RT request needs to be filed first.  Daniel, perhaps you can drive
 that?

 Thanks a bunch for the heads-up. Let's wait for a few more days to see
 if there are objections, otherwise I'm happy to drive it (with your help).

 (The call for moderation/admin help is still out there. :-))

 I'll go ahead with filing the RT ticket now.

Let us know how that goes.

I just did a search through the wiki for mentions that will need to be
changed/removed. Here's what I've found:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Mentor
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/FAQ
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperCommunication
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Junior_Contributor
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu

I'll fix these when the change is live. The whole MOTU/Mentoring
namespace could probably use a major clean up. I don't think that the
scheme described is functioning at all. Does anyone know if anyone
even has access to motu-mentoring-recept...@reponses.net (CCed)?
Digging around, it sounds like this was discussed a bit at UDS. The
Developer Advisory Team blue print has a update Wiki to remove
traces of mentoring programme work item. [1] Let me know if I can
help.

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-dev-advisory-team

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Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com

2011-11-03 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Hi all,

Recently I've been wondering what should happen to
ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com The list was never very high
volume, but recently it has seen almost no activity. Attached is a
histogram of mailinglist volume over time for ubuntu-motu-mentors. It
seems that many Ubuntu Developers don't even know that it still exists
anymore. This leads to a very poor experience for those aspiring
developers that do find their way there. Questions go unanswered for
long periods of time or forgotten all together.

I know that there will be some discussion on developer mentoring at
UDS. [1] Unless a specific plan emerges to revive the
ubuntu-motu-mentors list, I propose that we ask to have
ubuntu-motu-mentors redirect permanently to the regular ubuntu-motu
list. The latter has more subscribers so will more likely provide a
better experience for potential developers. It has also been fairly
low volume recently [2], so I don't think the combined volume will be
a problem for subscribers.

Thoughts?

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-dev-advisory-team
[2] http://andrewsomething.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/fun-with-graphs/

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Future of ubuntu-motu-ment...@lists.ubuntu.com

2011-11-03 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Hi all,

Recently I've been wondering what should happen to
ubuntu-motu-ment...@lists.ubuntu.com The list was never very high
volume, but recently it has seen almost no activity. Attached is a
histogram of mailinglist volume over time for ubuntu-motu-mentors. It
seems that many Ubuntu Developers don't even know that it still exists
anymore. This leads to a very poor experience for those aspiring
developers that do find their way there. Questions go unanswered for
long periods of time or forgotten all together.

I know that there will be some discussion on developer mentoring at
UDS. [1] Unless a specific plan emerges to revive the
ubuntu-motu-mentors list, I propose that we ask to have
ubuntu-motu-mentors redirect permanently to the regular ubuntu-motu
list. The latter has more subscribers so will more likely provide a
better experience for potential developers. It has also been fairly
low volume recently [2], so I don't think the combined volume will be
a problem for subscribers.

Thoughts?

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-dev-advisory-team
[2] http://andrewsomething.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/fun-with-graphs/

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Re: Ubuntu development release and Finding something to work on.

2011-11-01 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
2011/11/1 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com

 There will be no updates. I am not sure if the development branch has opened 
 up yet for 12.04

There will be many updates. Precise is open for development.

 To upgrade there are no iso's at this stage.

Daily ISOs seem to be already rolling out. There's no guarantee that
they're installable though.  See:

http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/

If the precise image isn't working, install 11.10, apply all upgrades,
and then change all mentions of oneiric to precise in
/etc/apt/sources.list

 to upgrade to the development branch you need to do the following

 1) install update-manager-core
 2) sudo do-release-upgrade -d

This will not work until there has been an alpha release either.

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Re: Stable Handbrake package would be great

2010-10-13 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Mitchell
jeffmitch...@orcon.net.nz wrote:
 Subject line says it all. I just added the apt line for the unstable
 version, and I'm hoping it works. If not, I guess I'll try the next
 nightly build. Better yet, why don't we just get a stable version
 packaged, to save new users the trouble? I've been using Ubuntu for 4
 years and I still hardly know what I'm doing. The non-standardisation of
 Linux combined with a 6-month release cycle really screws things up.
 Let's at least get the best software packaged.

Hi Jeff,

I haven't looked at Handbreak very closely in awhile, but I imagine
not much has changed. It has a number of issues that make it difficult
(or even inappropriate) for inclusion in the Ubuntu repositories.
Namely it's build process is extremely problematic; it tries to
download and build all its dependencies at build time, and statically
link to those copies.

Here are some links about previous attempts to get this into Ubuntu:

http://revu.ubuntuwire.org/p/handbrake
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456165
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105458

In the mean time, I suggest taking a look at either  transmageddon or
arista. Both are in the archive and are similar to Handbreak.

transmageddon - http://www.linuxrising.org/transmageddon/
Arista - http://www.transcoder.org/

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