Re: MTASC has been forked, perhaps you would like to update?

[Paul Wise]

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:04 +0100, Tristan Schmelcher wrote:

> I read over SourceForge's current policy docs and couldn't find any
> reference to their old requirement that projects release source
> tarballs, so I assumed it was no longer required. The source is all in
> SVN of course. I'm not committed against source tarballs though.

It is just standard practice to do so and quite weird to not do so.
Also, if you don't provide tarballs it is hard to know what is the
corresponding source for the binaries (see the GNU GPL).

> I'm aware of Git, though I don't have much experience with it. From
> what I know of Git it sounds awesome, but it also sounds like most of
> its benefits are for projects with large numbers of contributors and
> patches (e.g., the Linux kernel). I don't expect a fork of MTASC to
> have either, so I'm not sure the gains would be worth the migration
> effort.

git is worth using even for a single-person project. I wouldn't start a
FLOSS project using an SVN repository these days. The only thing that
would stop me using git (or other DVCS) would be Windows support, which
some FLOSS people still rely on unfortunately.

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Re: MTASC has been forked, perhaps you would like to update?

[Paul Wise]

On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:16 +0100, Tristan Schmelcher wrote:

> I'm just writing to let you know that I recently forked MTASC, the
> Motion-Twin ActionScript 2.0 compiler, which is packaged in both
> Debian and Ubuntu as "mtasc". Motion-Twin has ceased development of
> MTASC and my attempts to get patches submitted fell on deaf ears, so I
> have made a new site and released a new version, 1.15. See
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mtasc/ for the code and binaries.

Tristan, I know how you feel, some of my simple Debian patches are still
waiting as far as I know.

Nicolas, when will you be able to merge our patches?

Nicolas, even if you do merge Tristan's patches, I think it would be a
good idea to turn mtasc development over to the community and moving
everything to a sourceforge project is probably the best way to do that.
Would you consider doing that? One issue with doing that is the extc
static library, which is currently an embedded code copy in mtasc. I
guess that could be moved to its own project too.

Tristan, why are you not distributing a source code tarball?

Tristan, if you haven't yet looked at the Git version control system,
I'd strongly suggest doing so. If you need someone to do a good
conversion from CVS -> SVN -> Git, I'd be happy to help out since I have
a fair bit of experience with that.

> The new version adds two major features: support for classes
> containing more than 32 KB of bytecode, and support for Flash 9. These
> changes have been in use internally at Google for almost two years
> with no problems.

I'm sure mtasc users would very much appreciate these two features.

> I'd be pleased if you would consider updating your mtasc packages to
> the new version.

I'm not actually using the Debian mtasc package and am only maintaining
it out of inertia. If you would like to take it over and upload your
fork to Debian (which would then be automatically copied to Ubuntu), I'd
be happy to sponsor you until you become a DD or get DM privileges.

You might want to contact the maintainers of the FreeBSD and Fink
packages too, you can find them using the 'whohas' tool in Debian:

http://www.philippwesche.org/200811/whohas/intro.html

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