Re: Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Daniel Holbach daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello, Am 07.11.2011 16:05, schrieb Daniel Holbach: Am 07.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Barry Warsaw: On Nov 07, 2011, at 03:05 PM, Daniel Holbach wrote: For the procedure, I don't know if it's actually possible to redirect a mailing list to another. It can be done, but it will take someone with shell access to the mail server to set it up correctly. I'm happy to help work with the admins on that, but I guess an RT request needs to be filed first. Daniel, perhaps you can drive that? Thanks a bunch for the heads-up. Let's wait for a few more days to see if there are objections, otherwise I'm happy to drive it (with your help). (The call for moderation/admin help is still out there. :-)) I'll go ahead with filing the RT ticket now. Let us know how that goes. I just did a search through the wiki for mentions that will need to be changed/removed. Here's what I've found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Mentor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperCommunication https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Junior_Contributor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu I'll fix these when the change is live. The whole MOTU/Mentoring namespace could probably use a major clean up. I don't think that the scheme described is functioning at all. Does anyone know if anyone even has access to motu-mentoring-recept...@reponses.net (CCed)? Digging around, it sounds like this was discussed a bit at UDS. The Developer Advisory Team blue print has a update Wiki to remove traces of mentoring programme work item. [1] Let me know if I can help. [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-dev-advisory-team Thanks! -- Andrew Starr-Bochicchio Ubuntu Developer https://launchpad.net/~andrewsomething Debian Maintainer http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=a.starr.b%40gmail.com PGP/GPG Key ID: D53FDCB1 -- Ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing list Ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors
Re: Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com
Hello, Am 03.11.2011 21:56, schrieb Andrew Starr-Bochicchio: Unless a specific plan emerges to revive the ubuntu-motu-mentors list, I propose that we ask to have ubuntu-motu-mentors redirect permanently to the regular ubuntu-motu list. No objections. For the procedure, I don't know if it's actually possible to redirect a mailing list to another. Unless somebody knows how to do this, I would propose to: - add more moderators/admins to both lists, - turn the mentors list into emergency mode, - subscribe readers of the mentors list to the motu list (if they don't do it already), - bounce the few incoming mails from mentors to motu if necessary. The 'mentors' list could be closed completely (IIRC), but then we wouldn't have the archives any more. Any mailing list experts who can comment on this? (If you're interest in becoming moderator/admin of the two lists, please mail me back privately.) Have a great day, Daniel -- Get involved in Ubuntu development! developer.ubuntu.com/packaging Stay up to date: follow @ubuntudev on identi.ca/twitter.com/facebook.com -- Ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing list Ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors
Re: Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com
On Nov 07, 2011, at 03:05 PM, Daniel Holbach wrote: For the procedure, I don't know if it's actually possible to redirect a mailing list to another. It can be done, but it will take someone with shell access to the mail server to set it up correctly. I'm happy to help work with the admins on that, but I guess an RT request needs to be filed first. Daniel, perhaps you can drive that? -Barry -- Ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing list Ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors
Re: Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com
Hmm.. yes I do understand your point of view.. I was there at the beginning (2008) and I did also feel that.. descent. Im not really sure how we could save ourselves.. Just a heads up to your mail! Sebastien Delvaux -This message contains information that may be confidential and proprietary. Unless you are the intended recipient (or authorized to receive this message for the intended recipient), you may not use, copy, disseminate or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail, and delete the message immediately. Thank you very much. From: Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a.star...@gmail.com To: Masters of the Universe ubuntu-m...@lists.ubuntu.com; ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:56 PM Subject: Future of ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Hi all, Recently I've been wondering what should happen to ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com The list was never very high volume, but recently it has seen almost no activity. Attached is a histogram of mailinglist volume over time for ubuntu-motu-mentors. It seems that many Ubuntu Developers don't even know that it still exists anymore. This leads to a very poor experience for those aspiring developers that do find their way there. Questions go unanswered for long periods of time or forgotten all together. I know that there will be some discussion on developer mentoring at UDS. [1] Unless a specific plan emerges to revive the ubuntu-motu-mentors list, I propose that we ask to have ubuntu-motu-mentors redirect permanently to the regular ubuntu-motu list. The latter has more subscribers so will more likely provide a better experience for potential developers. It has also been fairly low volume recently [2], so I don't think the combined volume will be a problem for subscribers. Thoughts? [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-dev-advisory-team [2] http://andrewsomething.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/fun-with-graphs/ Thanks! -- Andrew Starr-Bochicchio Ubuntu Developer https://launchpad.net/~andrewsomething Debian Maintainer http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=a.starr.b%40gmail.com PGP/GPG Key ID: D53FDCB1 -- Ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing list Ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors-- Ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing list Ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu-mentors
