[ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu theme discussion information

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Mashos
As most of you have probably noticed, there have been some recent
updates to the Mythbuntu theme in both 0.25 and 0.26. As I've recently
taken over developing the theme and been receiving patches from
people, I wanted to put a reminder out where things needed to go.

Bugs - Theme bugs can be discussed here, although I'd much rather have
the discussion in a bug report on Launchpad
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+filebug). One thing is for
certain, the bug will NOT get fixed without a Launchpad bug report, so
file a bug report.

New/Changed Functionality - Up to this point, I've applied all patches
locally, tested, and as long as it worked and I wasn't completely
against it I committed it to github. I'm going to start being a little
more picky in patch acceptance for new features/changed functionality.
If you submit a patch that changes functionality or adds new features,
it should probably be attached to a mailing list thread here. The
Mythbuntu team reserves the right to commit patches we see as a good
change with little or no discussion (eg. if we see a patch on the list
and it makes sense we'll probably just add it, no need for a bunch of
red tape)

Patches - It's easiest for me to take merge requests on github,
however I'll take patches here as well (or attached to bug reports on
Launchpad). A patch should only change 1 portion of the theme (eg.
changes to the OSD and video menus shouldn't be in the same patch). If
there is a good reason that multiple things are getting changed in a
single patch, I'll might accept it, but it should be a good reason.
Patches also need to come with some description of what was changed.
An example of a good way to list what is changing in a patch is below.

recordings-ui.xml
* Use brightness to clearly tell the user where current focus is.
* Related to the above, actually make the cursor work like a cursor!
  No more leaving a copy behind in the left pane while browsing on the
  right. (Brightness is used to still indicate the active entry in the
  unfocused pane.)
* Remove scrolling from category display (last holdout of the brief
  scrolling experiment). Instead use multiline and a smaller font to
  hopefully gracefully display categories no matter how (reasonably)
  long they might be or what language they are in.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos

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[ubuntu-mythtv] Change Right/Left menu behavior?

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Mashos
Per my previous email, I've added this for discussion (it was sent to
me in a private email).

I noticed after migrating to 0.25 (I tend to keep my MythTV setups
stable for long periods) from 0.24 that the Mythbuntu theme was
hardwired to interpret RIGHT as Menu and LEFT as escape, à la the way
all themes behaved pre-0.22.

Given that the great RIGHT/MENU controversy of 2009 is long past
us--with only one MENU button now needed and horizontal themes
common--I'd prefer to revert the theme to the 0.22-0.24 behavior of
having LEFT and RIGHT wrap and relying on the existing MENU and
ESCAPE bindings. Was there a reason for the change? Do you feel
strongly about it on eway or another?

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos

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Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu theme discussion information

2012-08-21 Thread Jeremy Jones
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Zoltan Szecsei zolt...@geograph.co.za
 wrote:
  On 2012/08/21 17:03, Thomas Mashos wrote:
 
  As most of you have probably noticed, there have been some recent
  updates to the Mythbuntu theme in both 0.25 and 0.26.
 
 
  Hi,
  I have a pretty much default install of Mythbuntu 12.04, which keeps
 telling
  me that 0.26 is available - but doesn't actually tell me how to get it.
 It
  does not come down through the normal updates I apply.
  I haven't given this any thought, but now that you're mentioning this,
 pray,
  how do I install it ?
 
  (Yes, I'm being lazy, but you prompted the subject :-)  )
 
  Thanks  regards,
  Zoltan
 
 
 
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 It shouldn't be prompting you for the 0.26 theme on a 0.25 install.
 Can you send a screenshot of the message?

 Thanks,

 Thomas Mashos


Are you sure it's not prompting you that the updated theme is available?  I
have gotten that message since Thomas committed two updates in the last
week.

Jeremy
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Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Change Right/Left menu behavior?

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jeremy Jones
jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Jeremy Jones
 jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com
  wrote:
 
  Per my previous email, I've added this for discussion (it was sent to
  me in a private email).
 
  I noticed after migrating to 0.25 (I tend to keep my MythTV setups
  stable for long periods) from 0.24 that the Mythbuntu theme was
  hardwired to interpret RIGHT as Menu and LEFT as escape, à la the way
  all themes behaved pre-0.22.
 
  Given that the great RIGHT/MENU controversy of 2009 is long past
  us--with only one MENU button now needed and horizontal themes
  common--I'd prefer to revert the theme to the 0.22-0.24 behavior of
  having LEFT and RIGHT wrap and relying on the existing MENU and
  ESCAPE bindings. Was there a reason for the change? Do you feel
  strongly about it on eway or another?
 
  Being relatively new to MythTV (started in December of 2010) I am not
  familiar with the great 2009 controversy, nor do I understand what the
  post
  is talking about regarding the change.  Unless the change was
  implemented in
  the most recent update that Thomas committed to the theme, mine is still
  working the same as it always has, with the right arrow perorming a
  select
  of the item highlighted (for example in the Watch Recordings screen it
  moves
  from the selected category into the episodes list to the right).  I like
  the
  way that works now, and would be opposed to changing that, but I am not
  sure
  if that is relevant to the posters question.
 
  Can someone please clarify?
 
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 Rather than hitting right to decend into the menus and left to ascend
 back to the top, I believe themes generally require hitting OK to
 decend and BACK to ascend in the menus. The default behavior for all
 themes prior to 0.22 is what you see now in the Mythbuntu theme. This
 default behavior had to change in 0.22 because in 0.22 themes are now
 allowed to have horizontal menus (example
 http://www.mythtv.org/w/images/7/71/Terra_menu3.png). If you open the
 theme chooser and download another theme (IIRC, steppes) you should
 see this behavior of having to hit OK rather than RIGHT to decend into
 a menu.

 Thanks,

 Thomas Mashos


 So the post was asking about changing the MythBuntu Theme to match the
 operation of a horizontal theme?

 Why would that be needed?  What functionality would be gained by doing that?

 It seemed to be a post asking why a change was done when I read it, but
 based on your description the MythBuntu Theme is the same as all themes were
 prior to 0.22, right?

 I for one like it the way it is.  I would have a lot of complaints in my
 house if the right arrow suddenly didn't move the cursor over into the
 episodes pane on the watch recordings screen.  I understand the necessity of
 a horizontal theme, but I don't understand why we would change one that does
 not necessitate that.

 Jeremy



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Not exactly. The post was about changing menu navigation to work like
all the other vertical themes, which currently use the default of
OK/ESCAPE rather than RIGHT/LEFT. Currently (AFAIK) we differ in how
navigation is handled in our theme (RIGHT/LEFT) from all other themes
out there (OK/ESCAPE).

Functionality wise I don't think we gain anything from doing it other
than consistency for people going from one vertical theme to another.
I'll let everyone else weigh in on their thoughts before I say which
way I prefer.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos

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