Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] i386 EOL plans for Mythbuntu?
Bryan, Ok I've looked through the stats and I think we should block the i386 packages as you suggested. What do we need to do that? On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 12:40 PM Bryan Quigley <bryan.quig...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > > We already don't ship ISOs for non-LTS releases, so I see this as 2 > > questions. > > > > 1) Whether we want to have an 32-bit ISO for 18.04 > > 2) What to do regarding packages for 16.10. > > > > Regarding #2, I'd like to wait and see what Ubuntu does for 16.10. I'd > also > > like to check if the MythTV smolt data contains information on if the > CPUs > > have 64-bit support. > > Smolt seems super useful, but it appears to be discontinued, so I'm > guessing they won't be adding a feature to check for lm (and some > users might have i386 BIOSes). > For future reference, the results at > http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html today are - > x86_64 - 4808 - 82.9 % > i686 -969 -16.7 % > > Ubuntu is 88% of the total in underlying OS (20% 16.04, 67% 14.04). > > > For #1, the answer may be a little easier. I'm leaning toward dropping > ISOs > > completely pending my move to snap packaging. I've thought the concept of > > snaps made the most sense for MythTV since they came about a few years > ago. > > Ideally, I'd like to be able to say "install snappy core, then install > the > > mythtv snap" although I understand it won't be quite that simple. > > Very cool idea, looking forward to seeing it :). MythTV does seem > like a great fit into the Snappy story. > > Kind regards, > Bryan > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM Bryan Quigley < > bryan.quig...@canonical.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Mythbuntu team, > >> > >> From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss [1] I'm going to start > >> conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the > >> 18.04 timeframe. > >> > >> The general ideas are either: > >> *Start Dropping i386 for Mythbuntu now* > >> A. Drop Mythbuntu i386 ISO for 16.10 > >> B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from > >> i386 archive (say mythtv). > >> > >> Some Pros: Halves the test cases you need to go through. Reduces > >> bandwidth usage and makes it more obvious for new users what to > >> download. (Read other thread for some others) > >> > >> *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386* > >> > >> Pros: Maintain older hardware running Mythbuntu for another 2+ > >> years (up from 3 years). > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> Bryan > >> > >> * You could consider any packages that are 100% specific to the > >> Mythbuntu flavor. > >> > >> [1] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html > >> > >> i386 - To be clear I mean any 32-bit x86 platform (usually > AMD/Intel/VIA). > >> > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list > >> Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv > > > > -- > > Thomas Mashos > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list > > Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv > > > > -- > Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list > Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv > -- Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] i386 EOL plans for Mythbuntu?
Hello Brian, We already don't ship ISOs for non-LTS releases, so I see this as 2 questions. 1) Whether we want to have an 32-bit ISO for 18.04 2) What to do regarding packages for 16.10. Regarding #2, I'd like to wait and see what Ubuntu does for 16.10. I'd also like to check if the MythTV smolt data contains information on if the CPUs have 64-bit support. For #1, the answer may be a little easier. I'm leaning toward dropping ISOs completely pending my move to snap packaging. I've thought the concept of snaps made the most sense for MythTV since they came about a few years ago. Ideally, I'd like to be able to say "install snappy core, then install the mythtv snap" although I understand it won't be quite that simple. On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM Bryan Quigley <bryan.quig...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi Mythbuntu team, > > From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss [1] I'm going to start > conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the > 18.04 timeframe. > > The general ideas are either: > *Start Dropping i386 for Mythbuntu now* > A. Drop Mythbuntu i386 ISO for 16.10 > B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from > i386 archive (say mythtv). > > Some Pros: Halves the test cases you need to go through. Reduces > bandwidth usage and makes it more obvious for new users what to > download. (Read other thread for some others) > > *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386* > > Pros: Maintain older hardware running Mythbuntu for another 2+ > years (up from 3 years). > > Thoughts? > Bryan > > * You could consider any packages that are 100% specific to the > Mythbuntu flavor. > > [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html > > i386 - To be clear I mean any 32-bit x86 platform (usually AMD/Intel/VIA). > > -- > Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list > Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv > -- Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Providing Mirror on a Linode
Hello JD, We will only add ISO mirrors to our scripts. Daily builds only reside on PPAs. In order to be a mirror, we'll need to know a few things. How much bandwidth can you provide in a month? Our scripts are basic round robin scripts, so we can't guarantee that is all you would receive in a month but it would be balanced among the others. Where is the physical location of the server? Would the server be able to respond to our CNAME we provide for it? Would you be able to run a daily rsync command to sync the ISOs. We'll need about 5GB of space for the mirrors (we actually need less, but while we're in the process of updating ISOs it could balloon to 5GB) On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:06 PM, J. D. Stevens d...@stevens.com wrote: I have capacity to provide a MythBuntu mirror on a Linode. Server is Ubuntu 14.04.1, Apache2 2.4.7, ISPConfig 3.0.5.4p5. How do I get started and manage the mirror? -- Dave Stevens d...@stevens.com 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA http://www.stevens.com -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Mirroring
Hi, We do weighted round Robin. We will need to know how much traffic (in GB) you can handle in a month and your country. You will also need to have a daily rsync set up to sync the isos. Generally we need no more than 5GB of disk space (usually much less) On Mar 6, 2014 9:11 PM, Service L3 t...@offratel.net wrote: Hi, We would be interested in mirroring mythbuntu, we are an ISP in New Caledonia. What would you need to do so ? Regards. [image: www.lagoon.nc] *Sébastien CLEMENCEAU * *Ingénieur Systèmes Réseaux * *Ligne directe : (687) 28.88.99 * *Standard : (687) 28.88.99 - VoIP : 63.28.88.99 - Fax : (687) 28.88.80 * *Hotline : 36.67.03 (12 XPF / 11 s) - VoIP : 63.36.67.03 * *Contact sebastien.clemenc...@offratel.net sebastien.clemenc...@offratel.net * *OFFRATEL, SNC. http://www.lagoon.nc * [image: http://lagoon.nc/Content/images/mails/recycle.jpg] N'imprimez ce message que si nécessaire, pensez à l'environnement [image: http://lagoon.nc/Content/images/mails/recycle.jpg] Do not print this message unless it is necessary, consider the environment. * * *N° RIDET : 482422001 | RCS : NOUMEA 97 B 482 422 (97B1581)SIEGE SOCIAL situé au 1 Rue du Contre Amiral Joseph Bouzet, Nouville, 98800 Noumea * -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] installing mythbuntu 12.04 with mythtv .25
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Anthony Giggins se...@seven.dorksville.net wrote: 12.04.1 doesn't support a 32bit installation Install 11.10 and then dist upgrade to 12:04 I think that it does, I remember seeing a 32-bit ISO for download. Do you have a link to where you saw it doesn't support 32-bit? Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] .25 and .26 fixes auto building broken?
I've updated the build scripts so it will now build master, fixes, and fixes-1. I've just kicked off a build, so providing I've done everything right there should be a new 0.25 build in the next few hours (and daily when there are updates). Thanks, Thomas Mashos On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:28 AM, David Edwards da...@more.fool.me.ukwrote: On 15 November 2012 03:42, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote: I can see how one would read it that way, FWIW, I read it this way too and was surprised when the updates for 0.25-fixes stopped coming through. I am stuck on 0.25 until I have time to upgrade/reinstall my server with 12.04. Probably about time I did this, although I don't think there have been any updates to 0.25 recently that affect me, but I can see this being more of an issue if MythTV releases are going to be more frequent. So far, I've found sticking one release behind current is most stable... David -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] .25 and .26 fixes auto building broken?
Only the current -fixes (ie. 0.26) and master (ie. 0.27) repos get built. Versions prior to the current version (eg. 0.25), do not get built. I'm not against building for those previous releases, but changing the build scripts to allow that is non-trivial. Thanks, Thomas Mashos On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Jeremy Jones jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.comwrote: I thought the -fixes would be built if there were changes backported. Are you saying that 0.26 is currently the only -fixes repository that receives updates? On Nov 14, 2012 1:39 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote: 0.25 isn't building because it isn't the current version (we don't build old versions). 0.26 isn't building due to an issue with launchpad On Nov 13, 2012 7:53 PM, Chuck Peters c...@ccil.org wrote: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/branches shows some recent updates, but the PPA doesn't appear to be auto building them. If I am reading http://smithers.mythbuntu.org/~autobuild/weekly_mythtv.txt correctly it looks to be building the source packages, but not the binary packages. Thanks, Chuck -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Patches for Mythbuntu theme 25.29
Commited to master Thanks, Thomas Mashos On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Yeechang Lee y...@pobox.com wrote: The asymptotic nature of patching continues, with this week's offering super-tiny. Will next week bring no patch at all? Stay tuned. (NB - As always the below apply to all current versions of the Mythbuntu theme. recordings-ui.xml is not touched at all, so the master+0.26/0.25 split does not matter.) CHANGELOG (+add, =fix, -remove) config-ui.xml: = Fix alignment of textedit area and adjoining button in the icon chooser grid. = Up and down scroll arrows now appear in said grid. + In Channel Editor, zoom into selected channel's icon to avoid squinting. schedule-ui.xml: - Get rid of the clock display in the Program Guide with video. There is not enough space for some non-English languages, and doing so permits the title to be longer. Program Guide without video retains the clock as it has much more room. = In the Channel Priority Editor, properly display channel numbers longer than three digits. = Shrink the Schedule Filter popup to eliminate empty space. settings-ui.xml: + Display the theme's errata with the description. = Distinguish font between the author info and the description/errata. welcome-ui.xml: = Minor tweak of text element locations. -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu theme updates on stable releases
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM, John Veness john.veness.myt...@pelago.org.uk wrote: Recently there have been some quite major updates to the Mythbuntu theme, which will be visible to anyone who keeps the theme updated either via the theme chooser or via the package. In my opinion, I think it would be better for such major changes to the theme to not take place in a stable, released version of MythTV or of Mythbuntu. I think that if a user installs a particular version of Myth, and chooses the Mythbuntu theme, they should expect the theme to look the same and not change until they update to, e.g., 0.26. Obviously bug fixes are fine, and even minor additions such as adding the metadata editor in Watch Recordings which was not previously there, but some of the recent changes are bigger than that, or have been tried then later reverted (such as the scrolling text). Some users may think that the Mythbuntu theme devs are doing experiments in what should be a stable release. Of course, experiments and big changes can take place in a dev version of the theme, or for 0.26 or 0.27 until they are released as stable. Cheers, John -- John Veness, MythTV user, UK, DVB-T -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv That is a fair assessment. I've reverted the massive changes on the recordings screen and will only do bug fixes in released versions now. I do plan on adding back some of the changes that existed in the new screen, but I don't like the scrolling of things so much. Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
[ubuntu-mythtv] MythTV theme updates
When using one of my frontends I noticed that recent changes weren't showing up. This led me to find that while I committed changes to the branch, I hadn't updated the themeinfo.xml file so the changes weren't showing up in the theme downloader. If you have submitted changes to me and haven't seem them come down yet, this was likely the reason why. I just resolved this by pushing 26.8 and 25.24, which are now the current versions of the Mythbuntu theme and should be available via the theme downloader in the next 12 hours. I apologize for the inconvenience. In you are running 0.26, then version 26.8 of the theme contains an extra file called recordings-ui.xml.nobanner. This has some large changes that were submitted and that I'm planning on doing in the theme (although still needs work at this point). If you'd like to test this out, you'll need to rename the file to recordings-ui.xml (backup the original first) and then exit and reenter the recordings screen (you may need to restart the frontend) Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] mythtv 0.26 builds
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Monkey Pet monkey...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is the mythubuntu team building the 0.26 builds already? I wanted to do some testing on the pre-release 0.26 candidates. Otherwise, i just need to build my own. -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv The Mythbuntu team has had 0.26 builds since April 10th, 2012. https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/0.26 Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
[ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu theme discussion information
As most of you have probably noticed, there have been some recent updates to the Mythbuntu theme in both 0.25 and 0.26. As I've recently taken over developing the theme and been receiving patches from people, I wanted to put a reminder out where things needed to go. Bugs - Theme bugs can be discussed here, although I'd much rather have the discussion in a bug report on Launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+filebug). One thing is for certain, the bug will NOT get fixed without a Launchpad bug report, so file a bug report. New/Changed Functionality - Up to this point, I've applied all patches locally, tested, and as long as it worked and I wasn't completely against it I committed it to github. I'm going to start being a little more picky in patch acceptance for new features/changed functionality. If you submit a patch that changes functionality or adds new features, it should probably be attached to a mailing list thread here. The Mythbuntu team reserves the right to commit patches we see as a good change with little or no discussion (eg. if we see a patch on the list and it makes sense we'll probably just add it, no need for a bunch of red tape) Patches - It's easiest for me to take merge requests on github, however I'll take patches here as well (or attached to bug reports on Launchpad). A patch should only change 1 portion of the theme (eg. changes to the OSD and video menus shouldn't be in the same patch). If there is a good reason that multiple things are getting changed in a single patch, I'll might accept it, but it should be a good reason. Patches also need to come with some description of what was changed. An example of a good way to list what is changing in a patch is below. recordings-ui.xml * Use brightness to clearly tell the user where current focus is. * Related to the above, actually make the cursor work like a cursor! No more leaving a copy behind in the left pane while browsing on the right. (Brightness is used to still indicate the active entry in the unfocused pane.) * Remove scrolling from category display (last holdout of the brief scrolling experiment). Instead use multiline and a smaller font to hopefully gracefully display categories no matter how (reasonably) long they might be or what language they are in. Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
[ubuntu-mythtv] Change Right/Left menu behavior?
Per my previous email, I've added this for discussion (it was sent to me in a private email). I noticed after migrating to 0.25 (I tend to keep my MythTV setups stable for long periods) from 0.24 that the Mythbuntu theme was hardwired to interpret RIGHT as Menu and LEFT as escape, à la the way all themes behaved pre-0.22. Given that the great RIGHT/MENU controversy of 2009 is long past us--with only one MENU button now needed and horizontal themes common--I'd prefer to revert the theme to the 0.22-0.24 behavior of having LEFT and RIGHT wrap and relying on the existing MENU and ESCAPE bindings. Was there a reason for the change? Do you feel strongly about it on eway or another? Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Change Right/Left menu behavior?
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jeremy Jones jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Jeremy Jones jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote: Per my previous email, I've added this for discussion (it was sent to me in a private email). I noticed after migrating to 0.25 (I tend to keep my MythTV setups stable for long periods) from 0.24 that the Mythbuntu theme was hardwired to interpret RIGHT as Menu and LEFT as escape, à la the way all themes behaved pre-0.22. Given that the great RIGHT/MENU controversy of 2009 is long past us--with only one MENU button now needed and horizontal themes common--I'd prefer to revert the theme to the 0.22-0.24 behavior of having LEFT and RIGHT wrap and relying on the existing MENU and ESCAPE bindings. Was there a reason for the change? Do you feel strongly about it on eway or another? Being relatively new to MythTV (started in December of 2010) I am not familiar with the great 2009 controversy, nor do I understand what the post is talking about regarding the change. Unless the change was implemented in the most recent update that Thomas committed to the theme, mine is still working the same as it always has, with the right arrow perorming a select of the item highlighted (for example in the Watch Recordings screen it moves from the selected category into the episodes list to the right). I like the way that works now, and would be opposed to changing that, but I am not sure if that is relevant to the posters question. Can someone please clarify? Jeremy -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv Rather than hitting right to decend into the menus and left to ascend back to the top, I believe themes generally require hitting OK to decend and BACK to ascend in the menus. The default behavior for all themes prior to 0.22 is what you see now in the Mythbuntu theme. This default behavior had to change in 0.22 because in 0.22 themes are now allowed to have horizontal menus (example http://www.mythtv.org/w/images/7/71/Terra_menu3.png). If you open the theme chooser and download another theme (IIRC, steppes) you should see this behavior of having to hit OK rather than RIGHT to decend into a menu. Thanks, Thomas Mashos So the post was asking about changing the MythBuntu Theme to match the operation of a horizontal theme? Why would that be needed? What functionality would be gained by doing that? It seemed to be a post asking why a change was done when I read it, but based on your description the MythBuntu Theme is the same as all themes were prior to 0.22, right? I for one like it the way it is. I would have a lot of complaints in my house if the right arrow suddenly didn't move the cursor over into the episodes pane on the watch recordings screen. I understand the necessity of a horizontal theme, but I don't understand why we would change one that does not necessitate that. Jeremy -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv Not exactly. The post was about changing menu navigation to work like all the other vertical themes, which currently use the default of OK/ESCAPE rather than RIGHT/LEFT. Currently (AFAIK) we differ in how navigation is handled in our theme (RIGHT/LEFT) from all other themes out there (OK/ESCAPE). Functionality wise I don't think we gain anything from doing it other than consistency for people going from one vertical theme to another. I'll let everyone else weigh in on their thoughts before I say which way I prefer. Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
