Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[linuxgehtned]

There is a good documentation at beginners and more powerful users at the 
German community https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Ubuntu_Touch and could be in 
for you relevant infos adopted to the English pages but there was no answer 
to this question in the forum from the doc team. This was about a year ago 
and a Google translater availlable. So what's the current status - somebody 
want to take infos from there or are there (free) licence conflicts?


Greetings, Benno-007 (from German doc but no team member, only good work 
together)


Am Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2016 00:48:12 CEST schrieb Gunnar Hjalmarsson 
<1589...@bugs.launchpad.net>:

The topic has been loosely talked about, for instance at this docs team
meeting:

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-meeting-2.html

IMNSHO the documentation team currently lacks the manpower needed to
create some kind of end user documentation for phone/touch/unity8. An
initiative from developers and/or other Canonical staff involved in
unity8 is necessary.

@Oliver: The page you linked to is good, but I'm not sure that docs at
that level is suitable to put up at help.ubuntu.com. In any case it's
not the kind of docs which a user who just bought a phone or tablet is
looking for.





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Nathan Haines]

On 06/07/2016 11:26 PM, linuxgeht...@habmalnefrage.de wrote:

There is a good documentation at beginners and more powerful users at
the German community https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Ubuntu_Touch and could
be in for you relevant infos adopted to the English pages but there was
no answer to this question in the forum from the doc team. This was
about a year ago and a Google translater availlable. So what's the
current status - somebody want to take infos from there or are there
(free) licence conflicts?


The CC-BY-NC-SA 2.5 license used on wiki.ubuntuusers.de is a non-Free 
license and is incompatible with the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license used on 
wiki.ubuntu.com.


Because the German Ubuntu wiki forbids its reuse in this manner, this 
documentation MUST NOT be used as a basis for English documentation on 
the Ubuntu wiki through translation.


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[Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Re: Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Olivier Tilloy]

Agreed, there is a real need for end-user documentation. The PDF guides
published by BQ may be useful, but being device-specific I’m not sure
they are suitable for help.ubuntu.com.

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Status in Ubuntu Documentation:
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Bug description:
  If you follow the 'Ubuntu help' link from the browser default home
  page, you get to https://help.ubuntu.com/

  Which does not mention Ubuntu Touch at all.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 07.06.16

[Lukasz Zemczak]

Hello everyone,

OTA-12 landing velocity still rather low, with only a new bugfix
release of ubuntu-ui-toolkit and a cherry-pick crasher fix for lxc.
Our developers are currently busy with either pending features such as
the fingerprint reader or helping out in our xenial-targeted
initiative. Since we have reverted the 'lxc revert' from the
xenial-overlay, currently our staging images are once again unbootable
- but hopefully this week we should get some progress on getting the
android container working again (with the new lxc). But well, that's
xenial-related so more of a thing for the future.

Let's see how many of the planned OTA-12 goodies will be landed by
final freeze. Hope everyone remembers that the string freeze is next
week already.

Cheers.


* What landed in our images:
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch

#351 rc-proposed/krillin
- 
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/krillin/351.commitlog

#345 rc-proposed/vegetahd
- 
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/vegetahd/345.commitlog

#344 rc-proposed/arale
- 
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en/arale/344.commitlog

#122 rc-proposed/frieza
- 
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris-pd.en/frieza/122.commitlog


* Some useful documentation:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/RTMLandingApproaches
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/ReleaseSchedule
http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/

https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/
https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing
http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/issues/
https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes/
https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes+1/


* Blocking issues (stable):

** Ubuntu-emulator no network on latest image
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1587808
 -> Not much progress here, might be related to NM 1.2


* Blocking issues (devel):

** devel-proposed - android lxc container fails to start
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1551150


* Issues in need of attention:

None.


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[Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Re: Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

The topic has been loosely talked about, for instance at this docs team
meeting:

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-meeting-2.html

IMNSHO the documentation team currently lacks the manpower needed to
create some kind of end user documentation for phone/touch/unity8. An
initiative from developers and/or other Canonical staff involved in
unity8 is necessary.

@Oliver: The page you linked to is good, but I'm not sure that docs at
that level is suitable to put up at help.ubuntu.com. In any case it's
not the kind of docs which a user who just bought a phone or tablet is
looking for.

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Bug description:
  If you follow the 'Ubuntu help' link from the browser default home
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  Which does not mention Ubuntu Touch at all.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Bruce Griffis]

ZDNet's review BQ Aquarius M10 Ubuntu Edition Review has a link to a user 
guide PDF.. I also looked at an online PDF for the BQ phone. I just use a 
Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Touch, but the BQ online PDF user guide helped me. 
Not sure if that is what you need, but they did give me a decent overview.


On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 5:30:55 PM EDT, Bob Harvey 
<1589...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:

I find that rather odd.. Cannonical has been proselytizing  touch, and
dockable portables, for over half a decade.. I have paid over £700 of
real money to buy Ubuntu branded hardware, the phone and tablet,, and
not only is it half finished but no-one bothered to write any user
documentation at all?. This is a product with an unusual UI and no
external subculture, and nowt was done to write user documentation?. I
think that is rather contemptuous of the people handing over the money.

I think this bug needs to be escalated to Cannonical's commercial
people. This is not an engineering failure.. Why should I ever buy one
again, or buy one for my Grandchildren?




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[Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Re: Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Bob Harvey]

I find that rather odd.. Cannonical has been proselytizing  touch, and
dockable portables, for over half a decade.. I have paid over £700 of
real money to buy Ubuntu branded hardware, the phone and tablet,, and
not only is it half finished but no-one bothered to write any user
documentation at all?. This is a product with an unusual UI and no
external subculture, and nowt was done to write user documentation?. I
think that is rather contemptuous of the people handing over the money.

I think this bug needs to be escalated to Cannonical's commercial
people. This is not an engineering failure.. Why should I ever buy one
again, or buy one for my Grandchildren?

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[Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Re: Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Olivier Tilloy]

There is a lot of material for developers, but little documentation
targeted at end-users that I know of.

That guide might be an acceptable entry point:
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-
devices/.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 aethercast

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

Thanks all for response.
Like I read here
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/meizu-mx4-ubuntu-convergence-support
I just want to know if there is a hope: does anyone from our community
trying to get it working?
I'm not tech guy, but if there is anything that I can do (getting
logs, testings?) , I can help.

2016-06-01 21:04 GMT+02:00 Daniel Wood :
> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for your detailed response. I like many other would very much like to
> see Aethercast on the MX4 and I am wondering if there is any scope to crowd
> fund a port to BSP 5?
>
> Is that a conversation that could lead somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On 1 June 2016 at 19:06, Simon Fels  wrote:
>>
>> On 01.06.2016 18:50, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I just want to sum up what we know about wireless display support. For
>> > now,
>> > theoretically we've two options to get it working on Meizu MX4:
>> > (1) Change Android BSP from 4.x to 5.x.
>> > (2) Backport MediaCodecSource class (and maybe some other bits) to
>> > actual
>> > Android BSP 4.x.
>> >
>> > Am I right?
>>
>> That is correct. I did that already for the Nexus 4 and pushed patches
>>
>> https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/444
>> https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/445
>> https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/446
>>
>> That enables the basic bits for the media encoding side. On the Nexus 4
>> the more hard thing is the getting WiFi Direct support working as the
>> WiFi driver we have in the kernel seems to be quite busy.
>>
>> However to highlight the important thing: The Android side source of the
>> MX4 is not available to the public and will not. Only people inside
>> Canonical have access to it. We don't have any plans to enable
>> aethercast on the MX4 and krillin by default. I've shared those patches
>> basically for community ports based on Android 4.x.
>>
>> Also don't expect you're done with just importing those three patches
>> into your tree. Depending on how the encoder is structured and
>> performing there are more changes necessary involving debugging and
>> insight into the whole thing.
>>
>> > Regarding (1) - Meizu released 5.x OS recently. I'm not a tech guy, but
>> > is it
>> > not 'only' to grab what we need from that release and put it instead of
>> > actual one?
>> > Where is a problem with changing BSP to 5.x?
>>
>> Changing to a newer BSP requires a two to three month effort for
>> multiple people involved. Not an easy thing and isn't really worth for
>> Ubuntu Touch as we don't gain any new features and will only risk
>> regressions etc. The BSP we have stabilized very much over time so there
>> is absolutely no reason to change to a newer version of Android for the
>> MX4.
>>
>> regards,
>> Simon
>>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Web bro\o/\o/wser :-)

[Marcin Xc]

After the last update my bq plays radio streams from web pages just like my pc! 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] CI Train / Bileto offline

[Robert Park]

Alright we are now back online.
On Jun 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "Robert Park"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Canonical is currently experiencing a major outage which has taken
> bileto offline, in addition to many other services.
>
> IS is aware of the issue and working on a fix.
>
> Apologies for the inconvenience.
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[Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] Re: Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Subscribed the ~ubuntu-phone team in the hope that someone is able to
provide input on the topic.

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  If you follow the 'Ubuntu help' link from the browser default home
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[Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1589796] [NEW] Phone/tablet Not mentioned on documentation home page

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You have been subscribed to a public bug by Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj):

If you follow the 'Ubuntu help' link from the browser default home page,
you get to https://help.ubuntu.com/

Which does not mention Ubuntu Touch at all.

** Affects: ubuntu-docs
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[Ubuntu-phone] CI Train / Bileto offline

[Robert Park]

Hi all,

Canonical is currently experiencing a major outage which has taken
bileto offline, in addition to many other services.

IS is aware of the issue and working on a fix.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Sam Bull]

On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 05:05 -0700, Wayne Taylor wrote:
> tell them to use this:
> 
> https://hubl.in/

Ah, that's cool. Does anybody know why meet.jit.si doesn't work? It has
a slightly more streamlined interface, and extra features, so would be
nice if that also worked.

> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 11:46:15 BST, Alan Bell
> >  wrote:
> > > it is a bizarrely long standing issue, not only is it quite hard
> > > to flip to the front camera (you can, it is buried in the privacy
> > > area of the browser settings and doesn't stick so you have to
> > > keep doing it)

Are you sure about that? For me, the setting sticks, but even when it
is set to the front camera, it continues to use the rear camera. I
can't get it to use the front camera at all.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard doesn't appear

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Dominik Wnęk  wrote:
> W dniu 07.06.2016 o 13:26, Louis Holbrook pisze:
>>
>> Yes, but it didn't appear when it was out of range either.
>>
>> I had to reset now, can't test further - sorry.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 07:13 -0400, Pat McGowan wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have any bluetooth devices paired? Some mice present as a
>>> keyboard device as well.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Louis Holbrook 
>>> wrote:
>>>  The keyboard on my Aquaris BQ4.5 doesn't appear anymore.
>>>  Rebooting
>>>  doesn't help. Using OTA-11.
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>>
> I don't think it's the same problem, but I recently stumbled on two pages
> where I wanted to log in but the keyboard wouldn't appear. One was where I
> used GOG Connect and it redirected me to Steam to link the accounts (I can't
> get the address as the accounts are now linked and the page doesn't appear)
> - the Steam page had the username/password fields, the cursor was blinking
> and I could tap on either field to put the cursor there, but the keyboard
> wouldn't slide out.
>
> The other site with the exact same symptoms is the login page of a Polish
> bank at https://inteligo.pl/secure . I just checked this one again and once
> the keyboard did slide out, but when I closed the page and opened it again
> it once more wouldn't work.
>
> Is this something that is known, or should I file a new bug?

It’s https://launchpad.net/bugs/1582060, which will be fixed in OTA12.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard doesn't appear

[Dominik Wnęk]

W dniu 07.06.2016 o 13:26, Louis Holbrook pisze:

Yes, but it didn't appear when it was out of range either.

I had to reset now, can't test further - sorry.




On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 07:13 -0400, Pat McGowan wrote:

Do you have any bluetooth devices paired? Some mice present as a
keyboard device as well.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Louis Holbrook 
wrote:
 The keyboard on my Aquaris BQ4.5 doesn't appear anymore.
 Rebooting
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I don't think it's the same problem, but I recently stumbled on two 
pages where I wanted to log in but the keyboard wouldn't appear. One was 
where I used GOG Connect and it redirected me to Steam to link the 
accounts (I can't get the address as the accounts are now linked and the 
page doesn't appear) - the Steam page had the username/password fields, 
the cursor was blinking and I could tap on either field to put the 
cursor there, but the keyboard wouldn't slide out.


The other site with the exact same symptoms is the login page of a 
Polish bank at https://inteligo.pl/secure . I just checked this one 
again and once the keyboard did slide out, but when I closed the page 
and opened it again it once more wouldn't work.


Is this something that is known, or should I file a new bug?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Tom Rausner]

Den 07-06-2016 kl. 12:55 skrev Matthias Apitz:

> I notice something similar since OTA-11:
> - phone is locked and suspended
> - clock alarm arrives
> - one marks OK to silence the alarm
> - when you later un-lock the device, the clock-app is still active
> 
> IMHO this is a bug or a regression.
> 
>   matthias
+1

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Peter Spiers]

That's very well spotted! Very useful feature too.I'm sure it was on OTA10 and 
missed from OTA10.5  



 

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 13:35, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
 

 El día Tuesday, June 07, 2016 a las 02:04:55PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

> I sligthly disagree. I'm using the alarm in my BQ E4.5 since one year on
> five mornings a week, and until OTA-11 it was never the case that the
> clock-app stayed open after alarm cancel. This is clearly a regression and I'm
> asking if for normal (existing) functionality is some standard
> anti-regression testing in place, i.e. tests to ensure that everything
> else apart of new features does work as before?

And while talking about the clock-app: In the past (before OTA-10, don't
remember exactly with which version this feature disappeared), the clock
showed in the bottom an information about "next alarm in nn hours".
Since some version this has changed. Now the new "feature" in this place
is only a small button to pull the alarm settings window on the screen.

Why is this UX change?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, June 07, 2016 a las 02:04:55PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

> I sligthly disagree. I'm using the alarm in my BQ E4.5 since one year on
> five mornings a week, and until OTA-11 it was never the case that the
> clock-app stayed open after alarm cancel. This is clearly a regression and I'm
> asking if for normal (existing) functionality is some standard
> anti-regression testing in place, i.e. tests to ensure that everything
> else apart of new features does work as before?

And while talking about the clock-app: In the past (before OTA-10, don't
remember exactly with which version this feature disappeared), the clock
showed in the bottom an information about "next alarm in nn hours".
Since some version this has changed. Now the new "feature" in this place
is only a small button to pull the alarm settings window on the screen.

Why is this UX change?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] owncloud sync

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i've read a few articles that indicate 'you won't even know it changed'

however, i've not actually done the change (although I plan to based on
the more freeness of it)

it feels to me like a much better fit for the ubuntu project (nextcloud)

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>
> On 06/06/16 13:49, Wayne Ward wrote:
>> Owncloud sync update
>>
>> Exciting times for ubuntu touch users wanting to sync data the easy
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard doesn't appear

[Konrad Zapałowicz]

Louis,

what is your keyboard model name?

Best,
Konrad

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Louis Holbrook  wrote:

> Yes, but it didn't appear when it was out of range either.
>
> I had to reset now, can't test further - sorry.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 07:13 -0400, Pat McGowan wrote:
> > Do you have any bluetooth devices paired? Some mice present as a
> > keyboard device as well.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Louis Holbrook 
> > wrote:
> > The keyboard on my Aquaris BQ4.5 doesn't appear anymore.
> > Rebooting
> > doesn't help. Using OTA-11.
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Peter Spiers]

Thanks for clarifying this :)
 

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 12:39, Jean-Baptiste Lallement 
 wrote:
 

 On 07/06/2016 13:24, Peter Spiers wrote:
> Question,
>
> How does such get passed testing?
It didn't, this is 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1581089. 
Some issues are not important enough to block the release compared to 
others.

JB.

>
>
> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 12:07, Pat McGowan 
> wrote:
>
>
> Known bug fixed in 12.
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Peter Spiers  > wrote:
>
>    Hello All,
>    Don't know if anyone else has noticed this.
>    After OTA11 update, when the alarm goes off while the phone is
>    locked, if you then select OK to turn off the alarm, the clock app
>    opens.
>    So when you sign back into the phone from the lock screen, you are
>    faced with the open clock app.
>    This never happened before. You would kill the alarm and it wouldn't
>    initialized the alarm app after.
>    This a feature or a bug?
>    Kind regards
>    VE
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Wayne Taylor]

tell them to use this:

https://hubl.in/

:)

W

On 16-06-07 03:56 AM, Wayne Ward wrote:
> i messed with it yesterday after my partner picked up her droid and
> just did a quik video call do the daughter.. fiddled around going in
> privacy and changing settings and getting nowhere and trying google
> hangouts and it all just being wrong so gave up be nice just to click
> on a app and know i can tell friends and family / clients  to put on
> the app on to there droid or iphone and i can video call them, i can
> use skype on the laptop in the UK but when i take the tablet on
> business in spain im pretty cut of at the moment!  The general
> purchase reason was remote support on desktop PC's which it wont
> connect to any services IE log me or teamviewer so ive set a guacamole
> up as a temporary work around and to make contact with new business /
> clients and family but cant do that either - everything else seems to
> work in a fashion, hopefully OTA 12 may bring us some more functions
> and fixes 
>
> Wayne
> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 11:46:15 BST, Alan Bell 
> wrote:
>> it is a bizarrely long standing issue, not only is it quite hard to
>> flip to the front camera (you can, it is buried in the privacy area
>> of the browser settings and doesn't stick so you have to keep doing
>> it) but more than that, the front camera is just inverted on the main
>> production phone that everyone has
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1567542
>>
>> both of these issues are targetted for OTA12, but I am still a bit
>> puzzled that working end to end video calling using webrtc wasn't a
>> launch feature or one that they want to get any PR attention from -
>> it is so tantalizingly close to working and has been from day 1.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On 07/06/16 10:06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward 
>>> wrote:
 Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
 google hangouts
 im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones
 above your
 sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on
 the camera,
 but then you cant see them on the screen.
>>> Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for
>>> OTA-12.
>>> In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
>>> in the settings.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>   Olivier
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Matthias Apitz]

El d�a Tuesday, June 07, 2016 a las 01:39:28PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Lallement 
escribi�:

> On 07/06/2016 13:24, Peter Spiers wrote:
> >Question,
> >
> >How does such get passed testing?
> It didn't, this is 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1581089.
> Some issues are not important enough to block the release compared
> to others.

I sligthly disagree. I'm using the alarm in my BQ E4.5 since one year on
five mornings a week, and until OTA-11 it was never the case that the
clock-app stayed open after alarm cancel. This is clearly a regression and I'm
asking if for normal (existing) functionality is some standard
anti-regression testing in place, i.e. tests to ensure that everything
else apart of new features does work as before?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

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well I am fine with the calling app not being Skype or anything 
currently recognised as a mainstream branded software as a service 
proprietary thing. If webrtc works then lots of things like talky.io 
start working and people can host their own standards compliant server 
or do interesting peer to peer things, and they all work cross platform 
for free because standards. I have zero interest in learning QML and 
targetting just this platform, but I am totally interested in doing cool 
things that work great on Ubuntu touch first and also other platforms. 
What I really want is Firefox OS, but on chromium rather than gecko!


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On 07/06/16 11:56, Wayne Ward wrote:
i messed with it yesterday after my partner picked up her droid and 
just did a quik video call do the daughter.. fiddled around going in 
privacy and changing settings and getting nowhere and trying google 
hangouts and it all just being wrong so gave up be nice just to click 
on a app and know i can tell friends and family / clients  to put on 
the app on to there droid or iphone and i can video call them, i can 
use skype on the laptop in the UK but when i take the tablet on 
business in spain im pretty cut of at the moment!  The general 
purchase reason was remote support on desktop PC's which it wont 
connect to any services IE log me or teamviewer so ive set a guacamole 
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clients and family but cant do that either - everything else seems to 
work in a fashion, hopefully OTA 12 may bring us some more functions 
and fixes 


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement]

On 07/06/2016 13:24, Peter Spiers wrote:

Question,

How does such get passed testing?
It didn't, this is 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1581089. 
Some issues are not important enough to block the release compared to 
others.


JB.




On Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 12:07, Pat McGowan 
wrote:


Known bug fixed in 12.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Peter Spiers mailto:vampireechi...@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

Hello All,
Don't know if anyone else has noticed this.
After OTA11 update, when the alarm goes off while the phone is
locked, if you then select OK to turn off the alarm, the clock app
opens.
So when you sign back into the phone from the lock screen, you are
faced with the open clock app.
This never happened before. You would kill the alarm and it wouldn't
initialized the alarm app after.
This a feature or a bug?
Kind regards
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard doesn't appear

[Louis Holbrook]

Yes, but it didn't appear when it was out of range either.

I had to reset now, can't test further - sorry.




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> Do you have any bluetooth devices paired? Some mice present as a
> keyboard device as well.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Louis Holbrook 
> wrote:
> The keyboard on my Aquaris BQ4.5 doesn't appear anymore.
> Rebooting
> doesn't help. Using OTA-11.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Peter Spiers]

Question,
How does such get passed testing?
 

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 12:07, Pat McGowan  
wrote:
 

 Known bug fixed in 12.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Peter Spiers  wrote:

Hello All, Don't know if anyone else hasnoticed this.After OTA11update, when 
the alarm goes off while the phone is locked, if you then select OKto turn off 
the alarm, the clock app opens. So when yousign back into the phone from the 
lock screen, you are faced with the open clockapp.This never happenedbefore. 
You would kill the alarm and it wouldn't initialized the alarm app after.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard doesn't appear

[Pat McGowan]

Do you have any bluetooth devices paired? Some mice present as a keyboard
device as well.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Louis Holbrook  wrote:

> The keyboard on my Aquaris BQ4.5 doesn't appear anymore. Rebooting
> doesn't help. Using OTA-11.
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

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El día Tuesday, June 07, 2016 a las 10:47:27AM +, Peter Spiers escribió:

> Hello All, Don't know if anyone else hasnoticed this.After OTA11update, when 
> the alarm goes off while the phone is locked, if you then select OKto turn 
> off the alarm, the clock app opens. So when yousign back into the phone from 
> the lock screen, you are faced with the open clockapp.This never 
> happenedbefore. You would kill the alarm and it wouldn't initialized the 
> alarm app after.
> This a featureor a bug? Kind regards VE

I notice something similar since OTA-11:
- phone is locked and suspended
- clock alarm arrives
- one marks OK to silence the alarm
- when you later un-lock the device, the clock-app is still active

IMHO this is a bug or a regression.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Pat McGowan]

Known bug fixed in 12.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Peter Spiers 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Don't know if anyone else has noticed this.
> After OTA11 update, when the alarm goes off while the phone is locked, if
> you then select OK to turn off the alarm, the clock app opens.
> So when you sign back into the phone from the lock screen, you are faced
> with the open clock app.
> This never happened before. You would kill the alarm and it wouldn't
> initialized the alarm app after.
>
> This a feature or a bug?
>
> Kind regards
> VE
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where does ubuntu phone store volumes?

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Hello Geoff,

Thank you to point me to the bug report :) I'll subscribe myself as
affected.
But this may be an idea for a sort of mixer app...
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

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i messed with it yesterday after my partner picked up her droid and just 
did a quik video call do the daughter.. fiddled around going in privacy and 
changing settings and getting nowhere and trying google hangouts and it all 
just being wrong so gave up 
be nice just to click on a app and know i can tell friends and family / 
clients  to put on the app on to there droid or iphone and i can video call 
them, i can use skype on the laptop in the UK but when i take the tablet on 
business in spain im pretty cut of at the moment!  The general purchase 
reason was remote support on desktop PC's which it wont connect to any 
services IE log me or teamviewer so ive set a guacamole up as a temporary 
work around and to make contact with new business / clients and family but 
cant do that either - everything else seems to work in a fashion, hopefully 
OTA 12 may bring us some more functions and fixes 


Wayne
On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 11:46:15 BST, Alan Bell  
wrote:
it is a bizarrely long standing issue, not only is it quite hard to flip 
to the front camera (you can, it is buried in the privacy area of the 
browser settings and doesn't stick so you have to keep doing it) but 
more than that, the front camera is just inverted on the main production 
phone that everyone has https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1567542


both of these issues are targetted for OTA12, but I am still a bit 
puzzled that working end to end video calling using webrtc wasn't a 
launch feature or one that they want to get any PR attention from - it 
is so tantalizingly close to working and has been from day 1.


Alan.

On 07/06/16 10:06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
google hangouts
im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the 
ones above your
sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you 
on the camera,

but then you cant see them on the screen.

Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for OTA-12.
In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
in the settings.

HTH,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where does ubuntu phone store volumes?

[Paolo Roascio]

Thank you to point me to the bug report :) I'll subscribe myself as
affected.
But this may be an idea for a sort of mixer app...

2016-06-07 12:20 GMT+02:00 Paolo Roascio :

> Some days ago i have incurred a media-hub crash playing some songs. Since
> that, my SMS notification volume is muted. Is there a file/way to restore
> my volume? I know that volumes are adjusted while the relevant event is
> notified, but for SMS is hard...
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[Ubuntu-phone] Alarm

[Peter Spiers]

Hello All, Don't know if anyone else hasnoticed this.After OTA11update, when 
the alarm goes off while the phone is locked, if you then select OKto turn off 
the alarm, the clock app opens. So when yousign back into the phone from the 
lock screen, you are faced with the open clockapp.This never happenedbefore. 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Alan Bell]

it is a bizarrely long standing issue, not only is it quite hard to flip 
to the front camera (you can, it is buried in the privacy area of the 
browser settings and doesn't stick so you have to keep doing it) but 
more than that, the front camera is just inverted on the main production 
phone that everyone has https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1567542


both of these issues are targetted for OTA12, but I am still a bit 
puzzled that working end to end video calling using webrtc wasn't a 
launch feature or one that they want to get any PR attention from - it 
is so tantalizingly close to working and has been from day 1.


Alan.

On 07/06/16 10:06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
google hangouts
im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above your
sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the camera,
but then you cant see them on the screen.

Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for OTA-12.
In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
in the settings.

HTH,

  Olivier




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where does ubuntu phone store volumes?

[ubuntuone]

Paolo,
Have a look at the following link - the file you need to delete and 
restart the phone is ubuntu-phablet-stream-volumes.tdb


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1544477

Cheers
Geoff

On 07/06/16 11:20, Paolo Roascio wrote:
Some days ago i have incurred a media-hub crash playing some songs. 
Since that, my SMS notification volume is muted. Is there a file/way 
to restore my volume? I know that volumes are adjusted while the 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where does ubuntu phone store volumes?

[ubuntuone]

  
  
Paolo,
Have a look at the following link - the file you need to delete and
restart the phone is ubuntu-phablet-stream-volumes.tdb

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1544477

Cheers
Geoff

On 07/06/16 11:20, Paolo Roascio wrote:


  Some days ago i have incurred a media-hub crash
playing some songs. Since that, my SMS notification volume is
muted. Is there a file/way to restore my volume? I know that
volumes are adjusted while the relevant event is notified, but
for SMS is hard...
  
  
  
  


  


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Andrea Bernabei]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

> ive tried that on the phone before and the camera is upside down
> and tried on the tablet but wont turn round
> ill just wait till OTA12
> be nice to see it working with facebook or a working facebook messenger or
> skype or even telegram , just something that people normally use so you can
> communicate :)


Please check the Telegram link I pasted above ;)


>
>
> Wayne
>
> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 10:06:11 BST, Olivier Tilloy <
> olivier.til...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:
>>
>>> Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
>>> google hangouts
>>> im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above
>>> your
>>> sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the
>>> camera,
>>> but then you cant see them on the screen.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for OTA-12.
>> In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
>> in the settings.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>  Olivier
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Wayne Ward]

ive tried that on the phone before and the camera is upside down
and tried on the tablet but wont turn round
ill just wait till OTA12
be nice to see it working with facebook or a working facebook messenger or 
skype or even telegram , just something that people normally use so you can 
communicate :)


Wayne
On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 10:06:11 BST, Olivier Tilloy 
 wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
google hangouts
im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the 
ones above your
sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you 
on the camera,

but then you cant see them on the screen.


Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for OTA-12.
In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
in the settings.

HTH,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] List of supported keyboard/mouse for the M10 tablet

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, June 07, 2016 a las 11:24:33AM +0200, Julia Palandri escribió:

> Hi Matthias,
> 
> as the question on AskUbuntu was closed, I moved the info over here:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDevices

Hi Julia,

The server says:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done
that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error
log.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] List of supported keyboard/mouse for the M10 tablet

[Konrad Zapałowicz]

Matthias,

that was just a glitch, now it is back online.

Best,
Konrad

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Tuesday, June 07, 2016 a las 11:24:33AM +0200, Julia Palandri
> escribió:
>
> > Hi Matthias,
> >
> > as the question on AskUbuntu was closed, I moved the info over here:
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDevices
>
> Hi Julia,
>
> The server says:
>
> Internal Server Error
>
> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
> unable to complete your request.
>
> Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform
> them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done
> that may have caused the error.
>
> More information about this error may be available in the server error
> log.
>
> matthias
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:
> ive tried that on the phone before and the camera is upside down
> and tried on the tablet but wont turn round
> ill just wait till OTA12

The upside-down front camera on BQ E4.5 is
https://launchpad.net/bugs/1567542, fixed in OTA-12.


> be nice to see it working with facebook or a working facebook messenger or
> skype or even telegram , just something that people normally use so you can
> communicate :)
>
> Wayne
>
> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 10:06:11 BST, Olivier Tilloy
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:
>>>
>>> Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
>>> google hangouts
>>> im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above
>>> your
>>> sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the
>>> camera,
>>> but then you cant see them on the screen.
>>
>>
>> Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for OTA-12.
>> In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
>> in the settings.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>  Olivier
>>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] List of supported keyboard/mouse for the M10 tablet

[Julia Palandri]

Hi Matthias,

as the question on AskUbuntu was closed, I moved the info over here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDevices

I took the info from the question to start populating the wiki page, you
may now add yours as well :) (and restructure if you want to, but I would
also keep an easy to be read list)

BR,

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Wednesday, May 04, 2016 a las 12:53:46PM +0200, Victor Gonzalez
> escribió:
>
> > Great @Julia, from BQ support we've got a thread in our community where
> > we are sharing all the keyboards tested by users. I guess some of them
> > are repeated but I hope is useful.
> >
> > For non spanish speakers, just take a look to the links :)
> >
> >
> http://www.mibqyyo.com/comunidad/discussion/75256/m10-ubuntu-edition-qu%C3%A9-teclado-y-rat%C3%B3n-utilizar/p1
> >
>
> Hello,
>
> I know the list in mibqyyo.com and in askubuntu.com; both contain very
> useful information, but completely unstructured which makes it
> difficult for some seeker to get a clue which model would fit best.
>
> I have here a proposal about how to structure such data:
>
> 
>Manufacture: TECHGear
> Exact product name: Active Strike pro
>   Type: BT keyboard + touchpad
> USB/BT: BT
> Layout: QWERTY
>   Known issues: Alt+key(s) do not produce tilded chars, ...
>  Tester (optional): Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de
> 
>
> Comments? Thanks
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Andrea Bernabei]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

> Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
> google hangouts
>

Sorry, I am still not sure I understand what you mean by "it doesn't
rotate".
>From your next sentence it seems like you're talking about "switching from
rear camera to front camera".

Is that what you mean?


> im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above
> your sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the
> camera, but then you cant see them on the screen.
>
> Im not sure were to fill the bug for this ?
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 09:10:59 BST, Andrea Bernabei <
> andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Wayne Ward  wrote:
>>
>> Anybody got any video chat app working on ubuntu touch, either phone or
>>> tablet ?
>>> Like to be able to talk to kids when in spain but don't want to lug the
>>> nexus 7, I've tried all the facebook messengers and appear in but camera
>>> wont rotate on tablet... Any body got any appear at all even through
>>> adding
>>> a puritine app ?
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> I'm not sure X11 apps can exploit hw accelerated codecs yet, so not sure
>> how a videocalling app would work on that.
>> Although I heard WebRTC based services should work quite well.
>> What do you mean by "the camera won't rotate" ? Would you mind filing a
>> bug
>> against oxide so that the developers can investigate your usecase?
>>
>> Was thinking if I use facebook video through firefox will that have access
>>
>>> to the camera and audio even Or anybody tried skype..
>>> Telegram would be great with video I see they are getting voice
>>> messages soon, but video would be the icing on the cake to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please have a look at
>> https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-i-make-calls-or-video-calls-via-telegram
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts appreciated...
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope that helps :)
>>
>> Andrea
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Andrea Bernabei]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

> yes i want to look at the camera on the same side as the screen is so i
> can look at the person im talking to
> can you do this?
>
>
See the bug Olivier posted above :)


> Wayne
>
>
> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 10:04:51 BST, Andrea Bernabei <
> andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:
>>
>> Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
>>> google hangouts
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry, I am still not sure I understand what you mean by "it doesn't
>> rotate".
>> From your next sentence it seems like you're talking about "switching from
>> rear camera to front camera".
>>
>> Is that what you mean?
>>
>>
>> im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above
>>> your sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the
>>> camera, but then you cant see them on the screen.
>>>
>>> Im not sure were to fill the bug for this ?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 09:10:59 BST, Andrea Bernabei <
>>> andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

 Anybody got any video chat app working on ubuntu touch, either phone or

> tablet ?
> Like to be able to talk to kids when in spain but don't want to lug the
> nexus 7, I've tried all the facebook messengers and appear in but
> camera
> wont rotate on tablet... Any body got any appear at all even through
> adding
> a puritine app ?
>
>
> Hi Wayne,

 I'm not sure X11 apps can exploit hw accelerated codecs yet, so not sure
 how a videocalling app would work on that.
 Although I heard WebRTC based services should work quite well.
 What do you mean by "the camera won't rotate" ? Would you mind filing a
 bug
 against oxide so that the developers can investigate your usecase?

 Was thinking if I use facebook video through firefox will that have
 access

 to the camera and audio even Or anybody tried skype..
> Telegram would be great with video I see they are getting voice
> messages soon, but video would be the icing on the cake to me.
>
>
> Please have a look at
>
 https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-i-make-calls-or-video-calls-via-telegram


 Any thoughts appreciated...

>
> Wayne
>
>
> Hope that helps :)
>

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Wayne Ward]

yes i want to look at the camera on the same side as the screen is so i can 
look at the person im talking to 


can you do this?

Wayne

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 10:04:51 BST, Andrea Bernabei 
 wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:


Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
google hangouts



Sorry, I am still not sure I understand what you mean by "it doesn't
rotate".
From your next sentence it seems like you're talking about "switching from
rear camera to front camera".

Is that what you mean?



im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above
your sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the
camera, but then you cant see them on the screen.

Im not sure were to fill the bug for this ?

Wayne


On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 09:10:59 BST, Andrea Bernabei <
andrea.berna...@canonical.com> wrote:


On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

Anybody got any video chat app working on ubuntu touch, either phone or

tablet ?
Like to be able to talk to kids when in spain but don't want to lug the
nexus 7, I've tried all the facebook messengers and appear 
in but camera

wont rotate on tablet... Any body got any appear at all even through
adding
a puritine app ?



Hi Wayne,

I'm not sure X11 apps can exploit hw accelerated codecs yet, so not sure
how a videocalling app would work on that.
Although I heard WebRTC based services should work quite well.
What do you mean by "the camera won't rotate" ? Would you mind filing a
bug
against oxide so that the developers can investigate your usecase?

Was thinking if I use facebook video through firefox will 
that have access



to the camera and audio even Or anybody tried skype..
Telegram would be great with video I see they are getting voice
messages soon, but video would be the icing on the cake to me.


Please have a look at

https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-i-make-calls-or-video-calls-via-telegram


Any thoughts appreciated...


Wayne


Hope that helps :)


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Olivier Tilloy]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Wayne Ward  wrote:
> Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps Appear in
> google hangouts
> im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in so the ones above your
> sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want to see you on the camera,
> but then you cant see them on the screen.

Sounds like https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563398, fix targetted for OTA-12.
In the meantime, you can use the browser and change the default camera
in the settings.

HTH,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Wayne Ward]

Its the camera in general it doesnt rotate in most apps 
Appear in
google hangouts 

im not sure if there is anymore video apps to test in 
so the ones above your sat looking at the back of the tablet if they want 
to see you on the camera, but then you cant see them on the screen.


Im not sure were to fill the bug for this ?

Wayne

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 09:10:59 BST, Andrea Bernabei 
 wrote:

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Wayne Ward  wrote:


Anybody got any video chat app working on ubuntu touch, either phone or
tablet ?
Like to be able to talk to kids when in spain but don't want to lug the
nexus 7, I've tried all the facebook messengers and appear in but camera
wont rotate on tablet... Any body got any appear at all even 
through adding

a puritine app ?



Hi Wayne,

I'm not sure X11 apps can exploit hw accelerated codecs yet, so not sure
how a videocalling app would work on that.
Although I heard WebRTC based services should work quite well.
What do you mean by "the camera won't rotate" ? Would you mind filing a bug
against oxide so that the developers can investigate your usecase?

Was thinking if I use facebook video through firefox will that have access

to the camera and audio even Or anybody tried skype..
Telegram would be great with video I see they are getting voice
messages soon, but video would be the icing on the cake to me.



Please have a look at
https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-i-make-calls-or-video-calls-via-telegram



Any thoughts appreciated...

Wayne



Hope that helps :)

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[Ubuntu-phone] Dekko && *very* long text body

[Matthias Apitz]

Hello,

Sometimes it happens that on opening a mail with Dekko I was thinking
that Dekko has frozen, but it has not. The problem occurs when the mail
has a *very* long body to render. Note, I'm not talking about attachments,
but plain text body. The today morning case was one with 22.000 lines of
body someone sent to me (and you can imagine, what I do think about such
senders). In any case, why is Dekko freezing? Will it try to render the
full body at once? It should only render some part to present it, I
think.

Thanks

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Video chat app

[Andrea Bernabei]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

> Anybody got any video chat app working on ubuntu touch, either phone or
> tablet ?
> Like to be able to talk to kids when in spain but don't want to lug the
> nexus 7, I've tried all the facebook messengers and appear in but camera
> wont rotate on tablet... Any body got any appear at all even through adding
> a puritine app ?
>

Hi Wayne,

I'm not sure X11 apps can exploit hw accelerated codecs yet, so not sure
how a videocalling app would work on that.
Although I heard WebRTC based services should work quite well.
What do you mean by "the camera won't rotate" ? Would you mind filing a bug
against oxide so that the developers can investigate your usecase?

Was thinking if I use facebook video through firefox will that have access
> to the camera and audio even Or anybody tried skype..
> Telegram would be great with video I see they are getting voice
> messages soon, but video would be the icing on the cake to me.
>
>
Please have a look at
https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-i-make-calls-or-video-calls-via-telegram


> Any thoughts appreciated...
>
> Wayne
>
>
Hope that helps :)

Andrea

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] regression in doc viewer OTA-11

[Roman Shchekin]

Hi all, I'll take a look.

2016-06-06 16:33 GMT+03:00 Roberto Resoli :

> Il 05/06/2016 13:02, Matthias Apitz ha scritto:
> >>>
> >>> When I'm looking with doc viewer some doc, for example a PDF file and
> >>> click on < to go back to the list, it does not go back but crashes.
> >>> This is
> >>> on the E4.5 w/ OTA-11.
> >>>
> >>> Regression bug?
> >>>
> >>> matthias
> >>>
> >> Hi, confirmed, Mx4 rc-proposed current. In my case, a docx file is
> >> fine but with a pdf it crashes.
> >>
> >
> > Confirmed too, docx files are passed fine to libreoffice and one can
> > return to the list of files.
>
> Affects me too; I reported the bug:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1589505
>
> bye,
> rob
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Nexus 4

[Nathan Haines]

On 06/07/2016 12:08 AM, francisco mulas caracuel wrote:

I buy new nexus 4 and installed ubuntu touch.
This smartphone is very good,and the bq e4.5 save to box.
The first boot:
Scopes today,nearby,news,photos not included in the so.


It does depend on what channel you install from, but the Nexus 4 is a 
developer reference device, and therefore the default channel does not 
include a lot of extra software and features.  This allows you to set 
them up for your own development needs.


For retail devices, each vendor chooses a list of software to come 
preinstalled to give a better experience to the end user who is not an 
Ubuntu developer.



The scope today no included day info.


This frustrates me too, but the last I heard, Canonical cannot ship the 
Day scope in the store and has no interest in doing so.



I installed libertine scope.


This will show applications installed in a Libertine container, if any. 
 However, the stable/bq-aquaris.en channel's images do not include 
libertine--this will be added in a couple of months now that the feature 
has launched and stabilized.



Why install x-11 aplications?


The only reason to install an X11 application is because you want to run 
one on your Nexus 4.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Nexus 4

[francisco mulas caracuel]

I buy new nexus 4 and installed ubuntu touch.
This smartphone is very good,and the bq e4.5 save to box.
The first boot:
Scopes today,nearby,news,photos not included in the so.
When install scopes,very problems.
The scope today no included day info.
The scope nearby no included ubication.
The channel is stable/bq-aquaris.en.
The camera open hard slow.
I installed libertine scope.
Why install x-11 aplications?
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