Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[Christof Meerwald]

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:54:38AM +1100, Stephen wrote:
> Would it be worthwhile to set up a forum (I have spare server space for
> something like vanillla, or myBB which is rated highly), in order to help
> discuss, and expedite Ubuntu phone development?

Isn't this what this mailing list is about? Wouldn't an additional
forum just fragment the community?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[NeoTheThird]

Let's be honest: The M10 is a really cool device. It features a lot of 
the stuff we were promised in the Ubuntu Edge campaign but did not see 
in Ubuntu Touch up to that point. But it still has some annoying bugs 
and the hardware just can't live up to the expections of having a tablet 
when you want it and a pc when you need it.


Btw, Mr. Lunduke got a review unit and made a video about it and he 
sounded pretty excited about the whole convergence idea: 
https://youtu.be/rFQFSxxyqwk


Cheers

On 16.12.2016 06:50, mark wrote:


Hi

All the narrative surrounding convergence has been about one code for 
all devices: so developments in one area supposedly improves the 
experience in all areas. I realize that convergence hasn't quite 
happened yet, and that so far, seemingly Touch has been doing its own 
thing, but surely, tantalizingly, we're on the cusp of it with core 
and snaps: i.e. there's going to be a new protocol for the phone 
(desktop etc) soon. But more than that: so long as Canonical continue 
with convergence, the phone (and everything else) will always be part 
of it.


i.m.o. Bryan Lunduke is an agent provocoteur: all he wanted last 
Christmas was a truly Linux tablet, which he thought he'd never see. 
Well, that arrived literally a few weeks after his post in the form of 
the M10. :/


f.w.i.w My predictions for Ubuntu phone in 2016: Core and Snaps. New 
devices from OEMs. Perhaps a more easily portable system. And maybe 
other flavours of UT.



m


On 15/12/16 12:38, advocatux wrote:
Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your 
work. Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.


I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) 
and its next future.


Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that 
his daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as 
Bryan Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when 
talking about his 2016 predictions [1]:


"(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.

Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard 
one to measure.


Wait. No, it’s not.

The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was back 
in April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single 
thing about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical 
have been very enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday 
shopping season, not a peep about phones.


Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to 
focus on enterprise functionality."



Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I have 
great faith in the UP project.


So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up 
Ubuntu Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the 
"First Division"?


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[0] 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/mark-shuttle-worth-talks-ubuntu-phone-snappy


[1] 
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3145664/linux/2016-linux-predictions-which-ones-came-true.html








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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tethering with Nexus 4 mako

[Unix One]

On 11/02/2016 03:13 AM, Sam Bull wrote:
>> 2. USB tether: I change USB mode in TweakGeek from media to network;
>> connect to laptop using USB cable; my Ubuntu 16.04 recognizes
>> network
>> device, tries to establish network connection for few minutes and
>> eventually gives up.
>
> I believe this is supposed to work. But, I had the same problem as you
> when I tried it a few weeks ago.
>

Using the steps here - 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/607073/tetherings-not-running-in-ubuntu-touch-how-to-solve-it#757677
 
- I was able to get USB tethering to work on mako rc-proposed channel - yay:

0. enable developer mode
1. make system image writable (I did it with UT Tweak Tool)
2. it will ask you to reboot - do it
3. sudo sed -i -e 's/rndis0/usb0/g' /usr/bin/tethering
4. go to UT Tweak Tool and set ADB mode to RNDIS (the device may reboot 
on its own; not sure if it's a crash or expected)
5. after reboot go to UT Tweak Tool again and set the ADB mode to RNDIS 
again; this time it shouldn't reboot
6. sudo tethering enable
7. connect to computer via USB cable: it should be detected as a network 
device and connection should succeed, resulting in a successful tether

Steps 0-3 only need to be done once; steps 4-6 after every reboot or 
changing ADB mode.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[mark]

Hi

All the narrative surrounding convergence has been about one code for 
all devices: so developments in one area supposedly improves the 
experience in all areas. I realize that convergence hasn't quite 
happened yet, and that so far, seemingly Touch has been doing its own 
thing, but surely, tantalizingly, we're on the cusp of it with core and 
snaps: i.e. there's going to be a new protocol for the phone (desktop 
etc) soon. But more than that: so long as Canonical continue with 
convergence, the phone (and everything else) will always be part of it.


i.m.o. Bryan Lunduke is an agent provocoteur: all he wanted last 
Christmas was a truly Linux tablet, which he thought he'd never see. 
Well, that arrived literally a few weeks after his post in the form of 
the M10. :/


f.w.i.w My predictions for Ubuntu phone in 2016: Core and Snaps. New 
devices from OEMs. Perhaps a more easily portable system. And maybe 
other flavours of UT.



m


On 15/12/16 12:38, advocatux wrote:
Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your 
work. Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.


I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) 
and its next future.


Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that his 
daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as Bryan 
Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when talking 
about his 2016 predictions [1]:


"(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.

Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard 
one to measure.


Wait. No, it’s not.

The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was back 
in April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single 
thing about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical have 
been very enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday 
shopping season, not a peep about phones.


Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to 
focus on enterprise functionality."



Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I have 
great faith in the UP project.


So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up 
Ubuntu Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the 
"First Division"?


Regards.

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[0] 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/mark-shuttle-worth-talks-ubuntu-phone-snappy


[1] 
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3145664/linux/2016-linux-predictions-which-ones-came-true.html





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[Stephen]

I think it would be prudent to limit the forum to existing and future 
supported devices (aka, Nexus, BQ and Meizu), in order to expedite 
development of phones to a sufficient degree that largely eliminates 
those relatively minor but annoying bugs -- maybe sufficient to entice 
Android or even iPhone users to Ubuntu.


And for any funds raised (after we consult with Ubuntu as to setting up 
a specific account for said purpose), that the money is spent of solid 
development that gets results (I actually bought a 2nd-hand Sony Xperia 
Z1, thinking it was ready for Ubuntu -- wrong. Still not ready. Maybe 
never will be)


Hence the need to focus on existing and (when released) future devices.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[Stephen]

Sami

That sounds better than my shared server option -- I actually registered 
"ubuntuphone.me" thinking that was descriptive, making it about personal 
use of ubuntuphone, but not sure of the Trademark issues, so I didn't 
set up the site.


If that name is sufficient (at least to get started, we can always "the 
ubuntuphone forum is now at ..." etc), then send me an email with your 
server details, and I'll redirect the DNS.


As well, I was thinking that should I set up a forum to focus on BQ, 
Nexus and Meizu, to ask the help of plenty of admins, or editors to help 
maintain the forum.


So I'd be willing to do that, and I expect others would as well.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[Sami Törmänen]

And of course I meant that 50€ is two years contract. I can get it up and
running in this weekend. I have also dyndns service so buying domain name
isn't really necessary.

perjantai 16. joulukuuta 2016 Sami Törmänen 
kirjoitti:
> I have too couple of vps servers that I could set up for ubuntu touch
forum. Or we could buy a new one just for the cause and also cool domain
name for it. Time4vps.eu is good hosting site, 50€ and we can get fast
2core, 2gb ram, 80gb storage, 2tb traffic per month. I have one server from
them.
>
> There are many light weight bb-softwares out there, myBB is one of them
and a very good one. I have some experience setting up forums and
administrate them also.
>
> perjantai 16. joulukuuta 2016 Stephen 
kirjoitti:
>> Would it be worthwhile to set up a forum (I have spare server space for
something like vanillla, or myBB which is rated highly), in order to help
discuss, and expedite Ubuntu phone development?
>>
>> Existing forums, such as askubuntu don't seem to be focused on BQ, Nexus
or Meizu specific matters.
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[Sami Törmänen]

I have too couple of vps servers that I could set up for ubuntu touch
forum. Or we could buy a new one just for the cause and also cool domain
name for it. Time4vps.eu is good hosting site, 50€ and we can get fast
2core, 2gb ram, 80gb storage, 2tb traffic per month. I have one server from
them.

There are many light weight bb-softwares out there, myBB is one of them and
a very good one. I have some experience setting up forums and administrate
them also.

perjantai 16. joulukuuta 2016 Stephen 
kirjoitti:
> Would it be worthwhile to set up a forum (I have spare server space for
something like vanillla, or myBB which is rated highly), in order to help
discuss, and expedite Ubuntu phone development?
>
> Existing forums, such as askubuntu don't seem to be focused on BQ, Nexus
or Meizu specific matters.
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left edge issues

[Mitchell Reese]

On 16/12/16 10:34, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Hi, my Meizu Pro 5 is no longer respnsive with the left edge swipe - 
need to press hard and often the gesture is not recognised. Seems 
fixed for 5 minutes after a reboot, so suspect its softwaee related. 
On ota 14 stable. Any ideas what I could try?


Thanks,

Mitchell


Trying to reflash, and keep getting the same error - no space left on 
device. Have deleted everything under /cache/recovery on the phone, but 
still the same error. How can I fix this?


Thanks.

Mitchell

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[NeoTheThird]

There is the UBports forum. It's not about the commercial devices, but 
about porting to new devices. But at least there are some people who are 
interested in UT: https://forums.ubports.com/


Also, there is a section for Ubuntu Touch in the official forum and in 
some LoCo Forums. XDA-developers has an Ubuntu Touch category as well, i 
think.


Keep in mind that setting up and maintaining a forum is a lot of work. 
Also, the forum should run for eternity, a forum that disappears within 
six months time is of no use.


If you do set it up, share a link! It's always cool to talk to ubuntu 
touch users!


Cheers,

NeoTheThird

On 16.12.2016 01:54, Stephen wrote:
Would it be worthwhile to set up a forum (I have spare server space 
for something like vanillla, or myBB which is rated highly), in order 
to help discuss, and expedite Ubuntu phone development?


Existing forums, such as askubuntu don't seem to be focused on BQ, 
Nexus or Meizu specific matters.







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[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Forum?

[Stephen]

Would it be worthwhile to set up a forum (I have spare server space for 
something like vanillla, or myBB which is rated highly), in order to 
help discuss, and expedite Ubuntu phone development?


Existing forums, such as askubuntu don't seem to be focused on BQ, Nexus 
or Meizu specific matters.




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[Ubuntu-phone] Left edge issues

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi, my Meizu Pro 5 is no longer respnsive with the left edge swipe - need 
to press hard and often the gesture is not recognised. Seems fixed for 5 
minutes after a reboot, so suspect its softwaee related. On ota 14 stable. 
Any ideas what I could try?


Thanks,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[tallien]

Don't know if this helps you, but I found to my pleasant surprise that
using a rubber-tipped stylus of a narrow width increased my
speed and accuracy greatly when trying to select/edit text.

I hope development continues on UT, as I would much rather avoid
using a Microsoft or Apple phone if I didn't have to! I am glad I got
my Meizu Pro 5 before it sold out and would rather have it than anything
else.

When I donated previously I seem to recall there was an option to
select what you would like the devs to work on. I always chose desktop
plus phone/tablet. I see they have changed the options to vote for now
when you download, but "personal and mobile computing" are still
listed, so that's what I'll continue to vote for with my next donation.

Please keep up the good work on UT, I need my Ubuntu phone! :)

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 23:26:59 +0100 NeoTheThird wrote:

>What he just said. Could not agree more. Ubuntu Touch is good. But
>could be awesome. So why don't we make it awesome?
>
>Regards,
>
>NeoTheThird
>
>
>On 15.12.2016 22:59, Marcin Xc wrote:
>> I love the idea of Ubuntu phone and pay great respect to all 
>> developers. The only phone I could use again if there was no UT any 
>> more would be my old Nokia:-)
>> I have however this ugly nature of telling people what I do not like 
>> in a project directly in the eyes. There are a few things that kill 
>> this project right from the start. I hate all these small bugs that 
>> are 5-30 minutes work to repair but noone cares. I understand there 
>> are hundreds of bugs: some of them are just someones colourful 
>> fantasy, some of them less important than the others and there is 
>> noone to decide which should be fixed as a first one.
>> Let me give You two examples (for these two reasons I wouldn't give 
>> You a dollar if You asked me a 100):
>> 1. Marking a text. I mean these blue dots that are to small and
>> since OTA12 above the text!!! or let's say it straight: under Your
>> finger. Let's say it simply: it is a pretty important function,
>> especially because some apps do not cooperate with the phone app
>> very well. You do not have to rewrite a system to repair it and
>> let's say it straight: it does not work.
>> 2. This will be silly. Yes, You may find it silly but as I wrote 
>> already many times: first things first. Let this phone first calls
>> and rings correctly and then let us think about more complicated
>> things. So again, with full respect to all developers, I love that
>> You repaired the sms notification problem, but there is no way to
>> hear my E4.5 on the street. Some 250ms beep doesn't do the job. I
>> know I can probably just replace the *.ogg file the the one I like
>> but... what about all these people who can't do this? How "hard" is
>> it to repair this problem?
>> Perhaps I use wrong examples that You do not like but I hope You got 
>> the idea. This is the same thing as with bluetooth that doesn't work 
>> correctly since Ubuntu 12.04 though it used to work!!!
>> I really do not want to offend anyone but with such an attitude to
>> the development I simply can not write anything else. I like my
>> phone and love the tablet from which I wrote this message but can
>> not understand why simple things (for example my M10 doesn't open
>> ebay page correctly) need so long to repair.
>>
>> There seems to be totally no quality management for Ubuntu touch.
>>
>> So... now as You all hate me, I'll kill some Mashines in my
>> absolutely favourite game ever. Michael Zanetti, You made me play a
>> game! No one ever did it before;-)))
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Marcin
>>
>>
>> 
>> *From:* advocatux 
>> *To:* ubuntu-phone 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 4:38 PM
>> *Subject:* [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?
>>
>> Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your
>> work. Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.
>>
>> I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP)
>> and its next future.
>>
>> Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that
>> his daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as
>> Bryan Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when
>> talking about his 2016 predictions [1]:
>>
>> "(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.
>>
>> Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard
>> one to measure.
>>
>> Wait. No, it’s not.
>>
>> The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was
>> back in April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a
>> single thing about phones. The last several announcements from
>> Canonical have been very enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to
>> the holiday shopping season, not a peep about phones.
>>
>> Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to
>> focus on enterprise functionality."
>>
>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[NeoTheThird]

What he just said. Could not agree more. Ubuntu Touch is good. But could 
be awesome. So why don't we make it awesome?


Regards,

NeoTheThird


On 15.12.2016 22:59, Marcin Xc wrote:
I love the idea of Ubuntu phone and pay great respect to all 
developers. The only phone I could use again if there was no UT any 
more would be my old Nokia:-)
I have however this ugly nature of telling people what I do not like 
in a project directly in the eyes. There are a few things that kill 
this project right from the start. I hate all these small bugs that 
are 5-30 minutes work to repair but noone cares. I understand there 
are hundreds of bugs: some of them are just someones colourful 
fantasy, some of them less important than the others and there is 
noone to decide which should be fixed as a first one.
Let me give You two examples (for these two reasons I wouldn't give 
You a dollar if You asked me a 100):
1. Marking a text. I mean these blue dots that are to small and since 
OTA12 above the text!!! or let's say it straight: under Your finger. 
Let's say it simply: it is a pretty important function, especially 
because some apps do not cooperate with the phone app very well. You 
do not have to rewrite a system to repair it and let's say it 
straight: it does not work.
2. This will be silly. Yes, You may find it silly but as I wrote 
already many times: first things first. Let this phone first calls and 
rings correctly and then let us think about more complicated things. 
So again, with full respect to all developers, I love that You 
repaired the sms notification problem, but there is no way to hear my 
E4.5 on the street. Some 250ms beep doesn't do the job. I know I can 
probably just replace the *.ogg file the the one I like but... what 
about all these people who can't do this? How "hard" is it to repair 
this problem?
Perhaps I use wrong examples that You do not like but I hope You got 
the idea. This is the same thing as with bluetooth that doesn't work 
correctly since Ubuntu 12.04 though it used to work!!!
I really do not want to offend anyone but with such an attitude to the 
development I simply can not write anything else. I like my phone and 
love the tablet from which I wrote this message but can not understand 
why simple things (for example my M10 doesn't open ebay page 
correctly) need so long to repair.


There seems to be totally no quality management for Ubuntu touch.

So... now as You all hate me, I'll kill some Mashines in my absolutely 
favourite game ever. Michael Zanetti, You made me play a game! No one 
ever did it before;-)))


Cheers

Marcin



*From:* advocatux 
*To:* ubuntu-phone 
*Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 4:38 PM
*Subject:* [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your
work. Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.

I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) and
its next future.

Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that his
daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as Bryan
Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when talking
about his 2016 predictions [1]:

"(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.

Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard one
to measure.

Wait. No, it’s not.

The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was back in
April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single thing
about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical have been
very enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday shopping
season, not a peep about phones.

Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to
focus on enterprise functionality."


Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I have
great faith in the UP project.

So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up
Ubuntu Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the "First
Division"?

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[0]
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/mark-shuttle-worth-talks-ubuntu-phone-snappy

[1]
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3145664/linux/2016-linux-predictions-which-ones-came-true.html

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[Marcin Xc]

I love the idea of Ubuntu phone and pay great respect to all developers. The 
only phone I could use again if there was no UT any more would be my old 
Nokia:-)I have however this ugly nature of telling people what I do not like in 
a project directly in the eyes. There are a few things that kill this project 
right from the start. I hate all these small bugs that are 5-30 minutes work to 
repair but noone cares. I understand there are hundreds of bugs: some of them 
are just someones colourful fantasy, some of them less important than the 
others and there is noone to decide which should be fixed as a first one.Let me 
give You two examples (for these two reasons I wouldn't give You a dollar if 
You asked me a 100):1. Marking a text. I mean these blue dots that are to small 
and since OTA12 above the text!!! or let's say it straight: under Your finger. 
Let's say it simply: it is a pretty important function, especially because some 
apps do not cooperate with the phone app very well. You do not have to rewrite 
a system to repair it and let's say it straight: it does not work.2. This will 
be silly. Yes, You may find it silly but as I wrote already many times: first 
things first. Let this phone first calls and rings correctly and then let us 
think about more complicated things. So again, with full respect to all 
developers, I love that You repaired the sms notification problem, but there is 
no way to hear my E4.5 on the street. Some 250ms beep doesn't do the job. I 
know I can probably just replace the *.ogg file the the one I like but... what 
about all these people who can't do this? How "hard" is it to repair this 
problem?Perhaps I use wrong examples that You do not like but I hope You got 
the idea. This is the same thing as with bluetooth that doesn't work correctly 
since Ubuntu 12.04 though it used to work!!!I really do not want to offend 
anyone but with such an attitude to the development I simply can not write 
anything else. I like my phone and love the tablet from which I wrote this 
message but can not understand why simple things (for example my M10 doesn't 
open ebay page correctly) need so long to repair.
There seems to be totally no quality management for Ubuntu touch.
So... now as You all hate me, I'll kill some Mashines in my absolutely 
favourite game ever. Michael Zanetti, You made me play a game! No one ever did 
it before;-)))
Cheers
Marcin

  From: advocatux 
 To: ubuntu-phone  
 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 4:38 PM
 Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?
   
Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your 
work. Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.

I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) and 
its next future.

Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that his 
daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as Bryan 
Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when talking 
about his 2016 predictions [1]:

"(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.

Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard one 
to measure.

Wait. No, it’s not.

The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was back in 
April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single thing 
about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical have been 
very enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday shopping 
season, not a peep about phones.

Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to 
focus on enterprise functionality."


Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I have 
great faith in the UP project.

So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up 
Ubuntu Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the "First 
Division"?

Regards.

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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/mark-shuttle-worth-talks-ubuntu-phone-snappy

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] An Attempt at Porting Ubuntu Phone to a Samsung Galaxy S4

[Fabio Colella]

Hello,
about Cyanogenmod, there are multiple versions for the various variants of
the device. These have been merged into a single one (jflte) in the
Cyanogenmod 11 release. but have been splitted again from CM 12 as
maintenance became hard. Multiple variants are currently supported. I use
daily CM 13 jfltexx which is nightly updated.

About the driver enablement of Ubuntu on a mobile device, the Android
drivers stack is used as a facilitator, as it makes the porting easier for
an already enabled device. Nevertheless enabling a device from scratch
should actually be possible without the Android stack.

Thanks for your work.

Cheers,
Fabio

https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jflte_Info



On 15 December 2016 at 19:11, David Krovich  wrote:

> All,
>
> Hope this helps someone.
>
> http://www.krowv.net/blog/?p=38
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[Sami Törmänen]

Big thanks to all developers from me too!

A couple months ago I did buy used Nexus4 phone just for ubuntu touch. It
is my only phone right now and Im very happy with it. Just a few irritating
bugs but nothing major..

I hope that existing UT users get their phone bugs fixed. I think that
 fixing existing critical bugs is most important thing right now.

I'm also interested how many ubuntu phone users is out there?

Maybe we could put some simple poll site together and users could vote
their own phone? And maybe collect their critical bugs at same time?

Some donating thingy is good idea and maybe some UT specific forum where we
could collect ideas and own fixes, tweaks, mods etc..

We need more action around ubuntu touch OS, only then we can get more
people and also developers interested.

Best regards from Finland! :)

torstai 15. joulukuuta 2016 Stephen 
kirjoitti:
> Likewise, thank you to all Ubuntu developers.
>
> I enjoy and value my Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition.
>
> I was wondering though, how many Ubuntu phone users there are across all
devices (BQ, Nexus, Meizu)?
>
> 2,000 or so?
>
> If that's about right, and we each contributed $100, wouldn't that enable
a serious giddy-up to development?
>
> As Melvin wrote, "there's nothing else like it out there."
>
> Worth a bit of effort from existing users ...
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[David Krovich]

All,

Hope this helps someone.

http://www.krowv.net/blog/?p=38

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[Ubuntu-phone] access media-hub through html5 app?

[Lukas Baubkus]

Hi,

is it possible to access the media-hub with an html5-app?
And when its possible, how could it be done?

What I'm trying to achieve is, to play a music-stream in background,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[Stephen]

What I'd like to see is a page or a website that tracks donations, like 
some OS developers have (e.g. openshot), and for those donations to be 
directly deposited into a Canonical account set aside specifically for 
Ubuntu phone development (not convergence, but issues relating to the 
officially supported phones - BQ, Nexus, Meizu)


That way we could rally support (provide links to those interested in a 
more secure, no-tracking phone platform).


It would provide a focal point -- e.g. for some of the "27,000" 
supporters of the Ubuntu Edge program.


Any suggestions?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[Wayne Taylor]

fair enough.

remember that big crowd funding deal for that ubuntu phone that almost
happened? can't remember name of it... oh yeah, Ubuntu Edge:

http://venturebeat.com/2013/08/22/ubuntu-edge-crowdfunding-campaign-falls-short-by-19m-founder-keeps-dreaming/

I would stand behind this too.

This platform *must* happen.



On 2016-12-15 08:49 AM, Stephen wrote:
> Likewise, thank you to all Ubuntu developers.
> 
> I enjoy and value my Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition.
> 
> I was wondering though, how many Ubuntu phone users there are across all
> devices (BQ, Nexus, Meizu)?
> 
> 2,000 or so?
> 
> If that's about right, and we each contributed $100, wouldn't that
> enable a serious giddy-up to development?
> 
> As Melvin wrote, "there's nothing else like it out there."
> 
> Worth a bit of effort from existing users ...
> 

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[Stephen]

Likewise, thank you to all Ubuntu developers.

I enjoy and value my Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition.

I was wondering though, how many Ubuntu phone users there are across all 
devices (BQ, Nexus, Meizu)?


2,000 or so?

If that's about right, and we each contributed $100, wouldn't that 
enable a serious giddy-up to development?


As Melvin wrote, "there's nothing else like it out there."

Worth a bit of effort from existing users ...

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 15 December 2016 at 16:38, advocatux  wrote:

> Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your work.
> Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.
>
> I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) and
> its next future.
>
> Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that his
> daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as Bryan
> Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when talking about
> his 2016 predictions [1]:
>
> "(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.
>
> Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard one to
> measure.
>
> Wait. No, it’s not.
>
> The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was back in
> April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single thing
> about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical have been very
> enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday shopping season, not
> a peep about phones.
>
> Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to focus
> on enterprise functionality."
>
>
> Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I have great
> faith in the UP project.
>
> So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up Ubuntu
> Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the "First Division"?
>

Nice question :)

Was thinking about his yesterday.  Im still super optimistic about Ubuntu
Phone, simply because, there's nothing else like it out there.

I expect the challenges of creating a phone without multi billion dollar
budgets is enormous, but what has been achieved to date is amazing.

Regarding "first division" I dont think ANY phone right now is in the first
division.  But UP will offer features that will be simply impossible
elsewhere.

My thoughts around this are that we are in a pattern of bug fixing and
moving towards convergence.  When those two things are done, there will be
new carriers.

Happy holidays, keep up the good work, and I hope to contribute more in
2017!

>
>
> Regards.
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] What's the plan for Ubuntu Phone in 2017?

[advocatux]

Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for your 
work. Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.


I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) and 
its next future.


Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that his 
daily phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as Bryan 
Lunduke (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when talking 
about his 2016 predictions [1]:


"(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones.

Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard one 
to measure.


Wait. No, it’s not.

The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was back in 
April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single thing 
about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical have been 
very enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday shopping 
season, not a peep about phones.


Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order to 
focus on enterprise functionality."



Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I have 
great faith in the UP project.


So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up 
Ubuntu Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the "First 
Division"?


Regards.

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[0] 
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[1] 
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