Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mailing lists

[Alan Pope]

Hi Diogo,

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 02:49, Diogo Constantino 
wrote:

> I do agree, but may I recommend that there's a proper joint announcement
> with UBports before closing and a deadline, so that people can be
> informed of alternatives and decide if they want to move one to the
> UBports mailing lists (or whatever)?
>
>
I do not believe a "joint" announcement is required.

The only people affected by shutting down this list are subscribers to
*this* list, and future people stumbling upon it.

I propose sending a mail next week to this list as the final mail, which
will be kept in the archive, so publicly viewable. I'd be happy to provide
details of where refugees from this list can go next, but the short answer
is ubports.com. In the event someone in the distant future stumbles upon my
mail, they will find a link to the home page of the project. The
maintainers of the project can direct those users as they see fit.

I am not about to mandate to 3rd parties that they have to maintain mailing
lists just to enable me to shut this one down.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mailing lists (was: Re: Any upcoming "new" supported devices?)

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On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 18:08, Florian Leeber  wrote:

> Am 13.06.2019 um 22:02 schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> > Said this, and seeing that the UBports core team is unwilling to change
> > its mind re/ mailing lists, I will (and all can) use just this list
> here, at
> > least as long as it is functional. The audience seems to be around 2957
>
> We are not unwilling to change our mindset, we need to be a bit
> opportunistic with what is working and whats not. If there are 2957
> people on the Canonical mailing list, why there are not more posts, I
> ask you? For sure there is an overlap in users, so that people that use
> Telegram/Forums are also subscribed here. The question remains, why is
> nobody using this mailing list and the 3 other lists we set up in
> https://list.ubports.com/mailman/listinfo ? Our list server is dead
> since beginning... You can advertise this list or ours, but I dont think
> you will have much response.
>
>
I think we should shut this list down. It's been 2 years since we handed
Ubuntu Phone over to UBPorts. They've been great stewards of the project,
and I wish them well, but it's misplaced to continue using this list.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

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Hi,

On 5 January 2017 at 11:49, advocatux  wrote:
> * Click is dead, and everything must be migrated to snap.

It's not dead, it's sleeping. But yes, snap is 'click 2.0', so
everyone should move to it.

> * There won't be new phone models until there's a 'snap image'.

I don't know, but that's a reasonable guess.

> * No bug fixes for clicks, every developer is working in snaps.

Depends where the bug(s) is/are. Developers can still update their
clicks in the store. For click itself, there's not been a lot of
active development there since snappy came along.

> * There won't be OTA-15, at least as we know it.

I don't know.

> So how can we help to speed up the transition to snap? Any estimated
> timeline? Any roadmap?

Probably the most useful thing to do right now is build and use snaps.
Build them with snapcraft, and upload them to the edge channel in the
store. Once stable, promote to stable channel. This will no doubt
uncover bugs in snappy [0] and snapcraft [1] which need to be on the
teams radar.

As for roadmaps for snappy related things, that's a question best
asked on the snappy mailing list I think.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/snapcraft

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[0] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

[Alan Pope]

Hi,

Thanks for your continued interest in the future direction of Ubuntu.
I did enjoy your 'crickets' email. It raised a smile, and I learned
something about Spanish culture too :)

On 4 January 2017 at 16:33, advocatux  wrote:
> I don't think it's negativity. People are investing time, money, and passion
> in this project and want to hear what is the official plan, from an official
> source.
>

Not "the official plan, from an official source" but here's two pieces
of information:-

An email from Thibaut Rouffineau - Canonical's "Head of Devices
Marketing - Phone & IoT" went out to developers who had uploaded a
click to the store. The mail went out on the 16th December 2016.
Here's the content:-

"Hi there,

Thanks for your incredible work with Ubuntu Phone! You are the
cornerstone of what makes Ubuntu a great place to work and play. I
just wanted to clue you in on what is next for Ubuntu and Canonical.

Earlier this year we launched snaps [0]. This is a new packaging
format, derived from clicks, that works anywhere, irrespective of
device, distro, or developer. Snaps are simple, secure, and universal.
We are making them the new standard format for apps in Ubuntu across
cloud, desktop, IOT, and beyond. As an example Rocket.chat, NextCloud,
Jenkins, VLC, and others now take minutes to deploy.

As a developer, snaps allow you to target multiple platforms, come
with a store, and a built-in mechanism for beta software distribution,
making it simpler for you to get feedback before you release major
versions. We have also built out extensive documentation and tooling
for making snaps dead simple to understand and use.

Now, while we plan on ultimately retiring click packages and the store
in preference for snaps, rest assured, it is not going to happen
immediately. We are though encouraging our awesome community members
such as yourself to start preparing to move to snaps so we can make
this transition smooth.

Now, we want to make this as quick and easy as possible. Here is how
you can get started:

STEP 1: Head to snapcraft.io [1] where you can learn more about snaps
and find tools, tutorials, and tips to get started.

STEP 2: If you have any questions about getting started, feel free to
post to Ask Ubuntu, use our IRC channel, or join
snapcr...@lists.snapcraft.io

Also, you might want to give snaps a go [2] on Raspberry Pi with
Ubuntu Core. It is a load of fun to play with and shows the potential.
There is even a competition [3] for the best seasonal snap you can
join if you need additional motivation!

If you have any questions, concerns, or otherwise, let us know, and
thanks so much for your incredible work!

Thanks!
Thibaut Rouffineau
Head of Devices Marketing - Phone & IoT

[0] - 
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/06/14/universal-snap-packages-launch-on-multiple-linux-distros
[1] - https://snapcraft.io/
[2] - https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started
[3] - 
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/12/01/competition-build-a-seasonal-snap-on-your-raspberry-pi/
"
At a recent Ubuntu event in Germany, there was a presentation [4] from
Jane Silber, the Canonical CEO. As part of the presentation there was
a short Q&A which was unfortunately not published online, but was
recorded. During the Q&A someone asked about further devices beyond
the ones that already shipped. Jane gave some detail about why the
rumoured/expected Meizu device never appeared, and talked a little
about future plans. I don't have a recording, and wouldn't want to
mis-quote my boss, so won't.

The short version being that the focus for us all right now is moving
everything to work in the new snap world, and merging all the existing
project code to one converged platform.

> I myself asked about it very positively on December, 15th. So no 'when
> most sensible working people are on holidays' kind of excuse for the lack of
> response.
>

Apologies for the delay in response. I was on vacation from December 15th...

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Al.

[4] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShrpxtUB18

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Backup before sending phone to warranty

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Hi,

On 17 October 2016 at 11:06, Ivo Fernandes  wrote:
> So, how do I perform a backup of my SMS. And if such method exist, it is
> 100% granted that I can restore them?
>

I made a little script to backup your phone and a list of all
installed clicks. It's called buds and is available on github:-

https://github.com/popey/buds

Feedback / suggestions welcome.

It doesn't currently have restore capability but once you have the
backup, it's not too painful to manually put the files back.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sim switch off

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On 12 October 2016 at 14:41, Wayne Ward  wrote:
> Is there any way to make sim one switch off but keep sim two on without
> ejecting the sim ?
> I've seen redirect but would like to simply disable it and then re enable
> when I'm ready to to take calls on it

You *might* be able to use the nmcli command line tool to
disable/enable devices. Something like "nmcli device disconnect
"  and "nmcli device connect ". You can get
the device names with "nmcli d" (d is 'device' for short).

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 OTA-13: indicator-rotation-lock

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Hi,

On 11 October 2016 at 11:55, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> In the upper pannel there was an icon to lock/unlock the rotation of the
> screen. Now there is something labeled 'indicator-rotation-lock' with a
> new icon as gear wheel, but I can not see what it does at all. Any
> hints?
>

That's typically what happens when the indicator has crashed. The same
(cog) icon appears for any crashed indicator.

I'd look in ~/.cache/upstart for related logs to see why, and see if
it's reproducible (after a restart).

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Calendar display bug in time&date menu

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Hi,

On 6 October 2016 at 13:19, Wilfridd  wrote:
> Please see attachment.
> The 30th of October is displayed twice. Where can I file this bug in
> calendar displayed in the time&date menu?
> Thanks.
>

It's this bug and is already fixed in rc-proposed, and will filter to
the stable release at the milestone for the next Over The Air update.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings-components/+bug/1620496
https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/14

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Calendar bug

[Alan Pope]

Hi

On 9 October 2016 at 21:58, Victor Gabillon  wrote:
> The bug in Alan mail looks like a duplicate of bug
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings-components/+bug/1620496
> (fixed in rc proposed, no?)
> I have now marked it as duplicate. Tell me if I am wrong.
>

Good find! Yes, it's fixed in rc-proposed which I'm running here.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Calendar bug

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Hi

On 9 October 2016 at 15:20, Kamouni Mohamed  wrote:
> I would like to report a bug about the calendar, i have a meizu pro 5 with
> ota 13, there is 2 days of 30th october 2016 see the screenshot below.
>

That's probably this bug:-

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1627960

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Nextcloud box with 1 TB HDD (only?)

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Hi,

On 5 October 2016 at 23:52, Peter Bittner  wrote:
> There were some rather exciting news on the Ubuntu Devices Newsletter
> [1] today. Spotlight: Nextcloud, the reborn ownCloud, is now offered
> as a plug-and-play box for your living room.
>
> [1] 
> http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=56dac47c206ba0f58ec25f314&id=95cfe09215&e=54c87c95b3
>

Indeed, I ordered one myself, which apparently ships tomorrow.

> Though, there is one more thing: Why is it offered only with a 1 TB
> HDD? - Why not 2 TB or more? And is it actually super-silent and low
> energy? (If not, why?)
>

It's not a standard SATA drive, but has a USB interface. You can see
that in this image on the WD Labs site.

http://wdlabs.wd.com/global/images/products/PiKit_image02.jpg

WD Labs don't sell larger capacity drives. 1TB is (currently) the max
they sell. You'd have to ask them why, but I imagine the demand for a
USB connected large capacity drive with the configuration above isn't
high enough yet.

http://wdlabs.wd.com/products/wd-pidrive-1tb-kit/

You might get better / more comprehensive answers in the WD community.

http://wdlabs.wd.com/community/

e.g.

https://community.wd.com/t/pidrive-1tb-buy-separately/178652

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Open store file manager update

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On 21 September 2016 at 20:04, Fabio Colella  wrote:
> We should contact him or wait him to read and reply to this list.
> I added him as a recipient ;)
>

Noted :)


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Instaling Android runtime on ubuntu Touch for running Android apps

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Hello,

On 29 July 2016 at 14:17, Николай Шатохин  wrote:
> Jolla can run Android apps. Is it possible to do the same on Ubuntu?
>

Not currently, no.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] great disappointment with my tablet

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Hi Barry,

On 18 July 2016 at 11:50, Barry Drake  wrote:
> Hi   Why?  Well, when I first got my phone, the terminal from the Ubuntu
> store was broken.  I grabbed the code, built it and installed it on the
> phone.  No problem.after reporting this on this list, I left it there.  The
> terminal in the store is still broken, a year later, and Ubuntu no longer
> allows me to install my own stuff on my own phone or tablet.
>

This is the fourth thread (by my count) that you've started where
you've said the terminal won't install.

We need more data for this issue. Because I (and others) have
repeatedly been unable to reproduce the issue. We have installed the
terminal on various devices after your mails, and cannot see the issue
you're reporting.

Please can you explain exactly what you're doing, what buttons you
press, what does and doesn't happen. Without this we cannot move
forward at all.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Using system-image-cli failing

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On 15 Jul 2016 11:11 am, "Oliver Grawert"  wrote:
>
> hi,
> Am Freitag, den 15.07.2016, 11:07 +0100 schrieb Alan Pope:
> > Hi
> > In theory one should be able to flash a specific build of Ubuntu on a
> > device in the terminal with system-image-cli -b [buildno]. I tried
> > this today on my pro 5 and it fails. I typed this:
> > sudo system-image-cli -b 134 -v
> > Here's the output:-
> > http://termbin.com/yhrm
> > Am I doing it wrong? Is this a bug?
>
> i dont think you can actually roll back ... (snappy will fix that
> (ha!))
> what you can do is switch to stable though ... (which enforces -b0 and
> triggers a full image install)
>

That makes no sense. Why would it be possible to go back to an old image
with full flash on channel change, but not go back with a full flash
without a channel change.

I expect what would work is to full flash twice, once back to stable and a
second forward to rc-proposed specifying image number?

I guess I don't see what technically would stop you going to any of the
previously released images within your channel as a full flash given you
can from a PC with u-d-f. Seems a needless omission, and a useful debug and
'get out of jail' feature.

I suppose most developers just plug a cable in and use u-d-f, but when you
have no PC nearby it's not an option.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Using system-image-cli failing

[Alan Pope]

Hi

In theory one should be able to flash a specific build of Ubuntu on a
device in the terminal with system-image-cli -b [buildno]. I tried this
today on my pro 5 and it fails. I typed this:

sudo system-image-cli -b 134 -v

Here's the output:-

http://termbin.com/yhrm

Am I doing it wrong? Is this a bug?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Spotify support in native Ubuntu Music app

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Hi Krzysztof,

On 15 June 2016 at 17:22, Krzysztof Tataradziński  wrote:
> Hello,
> some time ago I read here [1] that
> " It's also interesting to note that Ubuntu devs are also working on
> Spotify integration, but that might take a while."
> Is that truth? Is there any site at launchpad.net or somewhere else
> where we can track progress of this feature?
>
> [1] 
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-phone-music-app-is-getting-more-features-spotify-support-a-possibility-494767.shtml
>

We built a prototype which was based on an older (now deprecated)
Spotify API. We always intended Spotify to be just one of a number of
services which could be supported in the app. The idea being that
developers could contribute support for other music platforms which
are popular to them or in their region - given not everyone can get
Spotify (or Pandora, Soundcloud etc).

Spotify is a bit of a trickier one than most, so that's on hold for
the short term. Right now we're looking at other options including
OwnCloud/NextCloud & local LAN music playback. If developers are
interested in helping here, especially if there's some service you
think we should integrate, which you can assist with, that would be
awesome.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Music app ignores files on SD card

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Hi Jeroen,

On 12 June 2016 at 12:25, Jeroen Hoek  wrote:
> I am trying to get the Music app to read the music files on the SD card,
> but it is ignoring them completely.
>
> What I have tried:
>
> * Symlink the directory with music files on the SD card from ~/Music
> * Mount --bind the  directory with music files on the SD card to
> ~/Music/SD_Music
>

Mediascanner is the process which 'finds' and indexes all the audio
and video files on your device. Music only plays the files
mediascanner has discovered.

I'd look on your phone in ~/.cache/upstart for mediascanner-2.0.log
(and logrotated compressed files of similar names) to see what it did
when it found those files. I think it only looks in certain places, so
won't find music mounted in places it's not expecting.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Use cell towers for faster location fix

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Hi Mattias,

Thanks for the mail. I don't know much about the other services, but
know a bit about MLS. Here's my thoughts.

On 8 June 2016 at 20:52, Mattias  wrote:
> There are open source
> databases with an api like http://opencellid.org and
> https://location.services.mozilla.com/.

I've been keeping an eye on MLS for some time now. The data is
crowd-sourced by users of Firefox OS devices, users of Firefox Browser
on Android [1], and Android users who install the Mozilla Stumbler app
[2] & remember to keep it open while travelling around. With Firefox
OS on phones dead, that only leaves Android Firefox Users (who opt-in)
and users of Mozilla Stumbler. That's quite a commitment for Android
users with no direct benefit to them, which I suspect - combined with
the lack of Firefox OS devices, contributes to why there's a low
number of people contributing data to MLS [3].

I've been a Mozilla Stumbler contributor for well over a year on
Android devices. I've noticed that in the last month a very small
number of people submit data. A total of ~360 people *world* *wide*
have run the apps and contributed data, and in many countries there
are very few contributors. Columbia for example has two contributors
who have amassed only 22 datapoints between them. I've managed to get
to position #2 in the Czech Republic and #37 in the USA on the
official leaderboard [3] despite spending only 7 days in each country
since the leaderboard was reset mid-April.

With a low number of people contributing, the data will likely become
stale / inaccurate. So I'd caution using that database in particular
unless it can be proved the provider has long term plan for keeping
the data up to date and accurate.

[1] 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/improve-mozilla-location-services-turning-location
[2] 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.mozstumbler&hl=en_GB
[3] https://location-leaderboard.services.mozilla.com/

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Flash Meizu PRO 5 Android to Ubuntu?

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On 3 June 2016 at 17:05, Mathijs Veen  wrote:
> +1 on different colors
>

As an owner of a pro 5, it's more "copper" than "rose gold" or indeed "pink".

> I'm really looking forward to using wireless convergence and have been and
> will be willing do deal with any bugs that come with the system. They will
> be fixed.
> But I draw the line at pink/rose gold with white. A man has his limits :)
>
> Please someone at Canonical tell this to someone at Meizu
>

I think the point is somewhat moot for the pro 5, as it doesn't appear
there are any more of that model for sale.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA 11 doesn't appear to install (probably)

[Alan Pope]

On 2 June 2016 at 12:34, Alan Pope  wrote:
> The downloads are done by ubuntu-download-manager which has logs in
> /var/log/ubuntu-download-manager - which may reveal some information?
>

Hit send too early...

.. also:-

sudo system-image-cli -v   # for verbose - may reveal more info.

Here's an example of my pro 5 upgrading using that command line:-

http://paste.ubuntu.com/16918100/

After which it applied and rebooted.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA 11 doesn't appear to install (probably)

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Hi,

On 2 June 2016 at 11:23, Alan Bell  wrote:
> The phone hides information from users because it is a consumer device, but
> that means I have no clue how my phone works, which I don't like much. I
> have absolutely no idea what I can do to find out why my phone didn't apply
> this update, or how to go through the update process from the command line.
> Should I keep retrying the cycle of reboots? Do I need to reflash the phone
> completely?
>

The command line tool is "system-image-cli" and can be run with
"--help" to find out the options. "-n" is a good one (with sudo) for
doing a dry run upgrade.

system-image-cli --info will tell you what channel and version you're on.

The downloads are done by ubuntu-download-manager which has logs in
/var/log/ubuntu-download-manager - which may reveal some information?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] canonical newsletter

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On 31 May 2016 at 19:21, Wayne Ward  wrote:
> Just got a link to join mailing list for canonical which i gladly
> accepted, but when clicking on the link looks like the website wants
> updating! the tablet looks like its from 1980's! a nice BQ HD10 would
> look nice with a meizu and maybe a HD5 
>

Maybe tell us the link?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] (no subject)

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Hi

On 31 May 2016 at 12:28, Krzysztof Tataradziński  wrote:
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-11-update-introduces-wireless-display-support-to-ubuntu-phones-504681.shtml
> is that true that we'll get convergence mode in our phones? I mean real one
> on external screens?

The article was incorrect, based off pre-release release notes. The
author has corrected it.

Only the Meizu Pro 5 currently supports wireless display via aethercast.
The bq M10 also supports it (enabled via the command line). But the
experience my not be as good as with the Pro 5.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]: Color changes in OTA 10

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On 26 April 2016 at 14:41, Jamie Young  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Just a quick note to say that we have now written a brief piece about the
> change to the orange on the design blog:
> https://design.canonical.com/2016/04/ubuntu-orange-update/
>
> And we've updated the design guidelines here:
> https://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette
>

Thanks for the post and update. Unfortunately there's now a bunch of
broken images on the page.

https://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette
contains embedded images such as:-
https://design.canonicalwebteam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/orange.png
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Aquaris M10 FHD Ubuntu Edition

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Hi Andy,

On 21 April 2016 at 10:28, Andy McCall  wrote:
> On a side note, does anyone know what make the keyboard and mouse are that 
> are on the front page of ubuntu.com(http://ubuntu.com)? I’d like to try and 
> get hold of them.
>

I think it's this one or some very close relative or variant.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Android-Windows/dp/B00S0MS746

However any bluetooth keyboard should be just fine. I use this one:-

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Device-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Smartphone/dp/B00NB2NZ92

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Apps I would like ....

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Hi Barry,

On 20 April 2016 at 10:47, Barry Drake  wrote:
> Hi there ...  One essential phone app for me is a sip softphone.  The one
> I've always used on Android is 'csipsimple'.  It's open source, written in
> Java, so it ought to port to a click package OK.  I'm not up to doing the
> job, but I really hope someone can take it up.
>

A SIP client would indeed be awesome. Would be awesome to deliver that
kind of thing out of the box.

> Another one I'd like to see is a satnav.  I'm not aware of an open source
> one, but I've written a message on the navmii q&a page asking if they will
> consider porting it.
>

Tried uNav?

https://uappexplorer.com/app/navigator.costales

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Request: Add “Report a Bug"

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Hi,

On 19 April 2016 at 07:25, Peter Bittner  wrote:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
>
> I've always felt this is the canonical source at Canonical:  (funny
> pun intended!  :-) )
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Components
>
> I used to update that page. Unfortunately, both pages are now
> "Immutable". Hence, it's impossible to add a cross-link from one to
> the other (without having to go through the procedure of a bug
> report).  :-(
>

The wiki got attacked with a lot of spam. So we added an extra step to
be able to edit it. You have to join this lanuchpad team:-

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad

Join that, and wait to be approved by one of the admins of which I'm
one, and then go back to the wiki and logout / login / refresh. Then
you should be able to edit.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to develop an app

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Hi Gareth,

On 18 April 2016 at 08:35, Gareth France  wrote:
> So, does anyone have any tips for going beyond a simple web app? How would I
> go about designing something native and packaging it?
>

https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/ -> "Create an Ubuntu app ›"
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/apps/ -> "Install the Ubuntu SDK IDE ›"

Once that's done, go back to the page and follow:- "Write your first app"
Which takes you to:-
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/apps/qml/

Which, after a brief intro, follow "start writing a phone app."
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/apps/qml/tutorials/building-your-first-qml-app/

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Request: Add “Report a Bug"

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Hi Joe,

On 17 April 2016 at 23:44, Joseph Liau  wrote:
> I would like to be able to report bugs easily from the ubuntu device.
>
> The current workflow is:
> -Open browser
> -Search for bug or project on launchpad. -Report bug if allowed...
>
> I often struggle to find the appropriate project to report the bug, or in my
> case now, there doesnt seem to be the option to report bugs for the
> webbrowser-app.

The 'canonical' answer so far is consult this list, which lists and
links to the correct bug filing location for each component on the
phone. If there's something missing, let us know and we can add it.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers

I certainly think there's room for a "Report a bug" app in the store.
It could pull from a list of projects online somewhere (maybe in
launchpad) and just present a drop-down list of projects. When chosen
a brief description (maybe also from launchpad) appears with a [Report
Bug] button. If the user is confident they have the right app, they
hit the button and are taken to launchpad.

There could be a catch-all "I don't know where to file this" option
too, but files the bug anyway, and we triage/move it.

Shouldn't be a terribly hard app to create. It could be developed
quickly and more easily without any hooks to launchpad, but just a
fixed list initially. As we don't change components/apps on the device
that often.

Could be a nice small community project.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Very new to Ubuntu phone ...

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On 16 April 2016 at 14:46, Barry Drake  wrote:
> On 16/04/16 14:30, Michael Zanetti wrote:
>>
>> At this point I'm not really sure if the issue you are facing is really
>> the terminal/filemanager app. Sounds more like a store problem.
>
> I've managed to download the terminal and that works OK.  I've now compiled
> the file-manager from source, and that works just fine. I'll get onto
> launchpad and file the bug there.  I suppose the store must be holding an
> incomplete click package.
>

What's more plausible is you tried downloading the file while the
store was being updated by a new store platform deployment. Happens
now and then. Usually retrying a few mins later works.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Very new to Ubuntu phone ...

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Hi Barry,

On 15 April 2016 at 19:07, Barry Drake  wrote:
> Well, it worked OK, but it doesn't allow me to do anything I couldn't do
> over the USB connection before.  It's the file browser that's the real
> problem.  That, and my inability to get the terminal app.  I've got the
> source code for that, but can't work out how to use it.  It's in the form of
> 16 Python files.  I'll download the API and see if I can get that to work,
> and do the same with the file manager.  The code for that is in qml.  Seems
> a lot easier to understand.
>

I'd like to understand some more how File Manager and Terminal are
broken for you but work fine for everyone else.

Which phone do you have? Make/Model?
What version of Ubuntu do you have on it? (System settings -> About
phone, or "adb shell" to the phone and run 'system-image-cli --info)
What exactly happens when you try and start File Manager or Terminal.

Could you maybe launch one of the broken ones and grab the log file
from the device?

adb shell
cd ~/.cache/upstart

look for the files with terminal / filemanager in the name...

cat file.log | nc termbin.com 

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] adb shell and termcap

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On 8 April 2016 at 12:29, Alan Bell  wrote:
> but it is still not auto-resizing the terminal to the size of the window.
> is this something that we can get to work properly so that connecting to a
> phone with adb shell works as one would expect connecting from one Ubuntu
> machine to another Ubuntu machine would work?
>

Use ssh or phablet-shell instead?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple backup script "buds"

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On 2 April 2016 at 20:23, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> Alan, please add a check after the mkdir -p ... if the directory could be
> created. If not, stop the rest of the buds engine.
>

Fixed, thanks.

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[Ubuntu-phone] New device on marvin

[Alan Pope]

Hi all,

Just a quick mail to let developers know a kind person donated a bq
E4.5 to me last night, which I've added to Marvin in Landscape
orientation. It's now available for developers to submit their click
packages and receive logs and screenshots.

http://marvin.popey.com/

For those that don't know, Marvin is a personal project I set-up with
Stuart Langridge which makes it easy for developers to quickly see
what their app looks like on devices they don't own. Simply upload
your click package, and a few minutes later you'll get an email
containing logs and screenshots of your application.

All devices are currently running the latest stable OTA release of
Ubuntu. Once OTA-10 releases, we'll migrate the devices up to that.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple backup script "buds"

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Hi,


On 31 March 2016 at 07:25, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> 1) the data goes compressed over the network;
> 2) no further interaction for the password;
>

Great idea. Implemented, and added parameter for entering the passphrase.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple backup script "buds"

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Hi Matthias,

Thanks for the quick feedback!

On 30 March 2016 at 14:18, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> - the script should use /bin/sh, not all hosts have /bin/bash
> - the script should somehow work with 'sudo' in the E4.5 because it
>   can't pull out files owned by root below ~phablet (for example a
>   chroot file system) as user phablet;
> - the usage of df on the host is not portable (in my case to FreeBSD):
>   20160330-151044 : Determine free space on current machine
>   df: illegal option -- B
>   usage: df [-b | -g | -H | -h | -k | -m | -P] [-acilnT] [-t type] [-,]
>   [file | filesystem ...]
>
> - it is good to save the click-list, but why on STDOUT; it'S enough to
>   have it as file, I think;
>

Have created issues in github for those. Will fix what I can :)

https://github.com/popey/buds/issues

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[Ubuntu-phone] Simple backup script "buds"

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Heya,

The recent thread on "How to backup" the phone/device lead me to dig
out the simple bash script I use to back my devices up. I tidied it up
a little and have put it on-line. Feel free to use/fork/modify/port or
whatever.

It's provided as-is. No guarantee it actually backs up, or indeed can
be restored, but it works for me. Patches/suggestions welcome :)

https://github.com/popey/buds

Here's a sample of what the output looks like:-

http://paste.ubuntu.com/15559218/

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] FitnessTracker

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On 29 March 2016 at 21:23, Peter Bittner  wrote:
> Marcin,
>
> can you add an issue (feature/app request) to
> https://github.com/cyberb/uapps/issues, please?
>
> I know, not the most obvious place and most promising list, but at
> least a list where we already have some "please, developers, get your
> hands dirty if you feel like" requests gathered.
>

There's this list:-

https://uappexplorer.com/wishlist

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 23.03.16

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On 25 March 2016 at 00:35, Nathan Haines  wrote:
> On 03/24/2016 05:31 PM, Alan Pope wrote:
>>
>> On 24 March 2016 at 23:38, Nathan Haines  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm very disappointed that side-stage was removed from tablets.
>>
>>
>> It wasn't removed. You're holding it wrong.
>
>
> Since Unity 8 forces landscape orientation on the Nexus 7 for the dash and
> previously side-staged apps are now full-screen in both landscape and
> portrait orientation, I rather doubt it!
>

AIUI the gestures and UX for it have been updated. You may not have
seen the new welcome wizard which explains the gestures, as you're on
an existing OTA-updated install?

e.g. http://i.imgur.com/pmqyG93.jpg (image from Daniel Wood)

If it's actually impossible to trigger side stage then that's a bug
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 23.03.16

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On 24 March 2016 at 23:38, Nathan Haines  wrote:
> On 03/23/2016 05:07 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:
>>
>> Just some of the new
>> features: new dash navigation, hardware keyboard layouts support,
>> desktop mode toggle, new side-stage for tablet and many more.
>
>
> I'm very disappointed that side-stage was removed from tablets.

It wasn't removed. You're holding it wrong.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Command line app uninstall

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On 20 March 2016 at 04:43, Louis Holbrook  wrote:
> A RSS-app sent my Scopes in a restart-loop, and no can't reach the app
> administration interface. It's either reset the phone, or remove the app
> by shell (I'd need to list the apps aswell, to know which name to pick).
> Can the latter be done, and how?
>

# find the app id of the offending app:-
click list | grep foo

That will list the name - such as:-
com.example.foo 1.2.3

# remove it:-
sudo click unregister --user=phablet com.example.foo 1.2.3

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Gallery default view

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Hi,

On 17 March 2016 at 21:34, Daniel Wood  wrote:
> It defaults to events view which i find difficult and un-natural to navigate
> and find the images I want, I always use the photos view.
> It would be great if the prefered view could be set as an option.

Something we did in the Calendar was set the view to be whatever you
last used. I'd quite like that in apps, so when I launch them they
retain whatever I personally liked, and you could have it retain what
you like. That way you avoid having to add clunky settings screens.
Just save state when the view is changed, and check the state on
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Disconnecting of 'ssh localhost'

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On 14 March 2016 at 09:45, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
>> I've marked this as a duplicate of
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle/+bug/1502197
>
> This is not nice, because it's the other way around: 1502197 is a dup of
> mine 1476101 :-)
>

It doesn't matter really which way round they dupe. I thought
carefully before doing it, and did it the way I did because the master
bug has a task on the project that can actually fix the issue, and
already had a duplicate.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Disconnecting of 'ssh localhost'

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On 14 March 2016 at 09:13, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> El día Monday, March 14, 2016 a las 10:08:54AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió:
>
>> Yes; this is the designed behaviour. You can get back the SSH session to
>> live with the 'fg' command; but then there is a terminal issue/bug which
>> makes it impossible to do some real work: all commands are echoed twice:
>>
>> $ ssh localhost
>> $
>> now swipe away and come back
>>
>> stopped ssh localhost
>> fg
>> ssh localhost
>> $ echo foo
>> echo foo
>> foo
>> $
>>
>> see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1476101
>

I've marked this as a duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle/+bug/1502197
which is assigned a task where this can actually be fixed. Perhaps
Thomas (cc'ed) can reply to that bug or here to explain how this might
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Pascal compiler

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Hi Cesar,

On 11 March 2016 at 08:16, Cesar Herrera  wrote:
> I'd like to know the best way to have a Pascal compiler in the phone.

Probably via a chroot. Here's a step-by-step guide:-

http://askubuntu.com/a/623311/612

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] is this a new calendar app (-version) ?

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Hi,

On 7 March 2016 at 23:26, i...@carakas.be  wrote:
> To bad someone at project management decided that supporting multiple google
> calendars is not critical enough even though that bug has been open for 2
> YEARS

Everyone has their own idea of what a critical bug is. Sorry to say
but syncing multiple calendars isn't critical. Examples of things on a
phone which people might consider critical:-

* Things which cause user data to be deleted
* Bugs which mean customers can't boot the phone
* Inability to answer/make phone calls

..and so on.

Multiple calendars is a feature enhancement. We're currently using
Evolution for our calendar syncing back-end, and this has never
supported multi-calendar Google sync. It's new work that someone needs
to do to make happen. With all the other things, this just took a
slightly lower priority. It's on the list and will get done though. We
have a small team working on this though, don't feel like we don't
want to fix it.

> I have been using Ubuntu on my phone as main driver for about or more than 2
> years now.
> I have never, in that time been so disappointed by the lack of interest to
> fix a critical bug like this
>

There is interest, just lack of resource.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] accessibility

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Hi Kenneth,

On 2 March 2016 at 08:01, Kenneth Rasmussen
 wrote:
> im visually impared almost blind and currently forced to use iphone.. on my 
> laptop i have Ubuntu, so they dont work so much together.. Therefor im 
> curious about how much accessibility there is on Ubuntu phone?
>

Currently, none.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5: keyboard/mouse per bluetooth

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On 1 March 2016 at 20:11, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> Any recommendations for a keyboard/mouse to connect to our BQ E4.5 via
> bluetooth? Best would be (for me) some device in laptopstyle, i.e.
> having the mouse integrated as a touchpad into the keyboard.
>

I use a Logitech K480 and a ThinkPad Mouse. I've seen a Lenovo
keyboard though which I'd quite like as it has a TouchPoint :)

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/itemdetails/0B47187/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS/location and other background processing

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Hi Thomas,

On 29 February 2016 at 15:35, Thomas Voß  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Alan Bell  wrote:
>> it isn't really about that, it is about providing less broken location data
>> to applications that ask for it. The current situation is that if an
>> application requests location data it gets given random coordinates of
>> somewhere you may have been to in the last week or so.
>
> Hmmm, I'm surprised by that statement. The service hands out the last
> known good location, together with a timestamp
> and the accuracy aged out. If applications fail to handle the
> respective data correctly, it is not the service at fault here.
>

I spent a week in Germany last week. At lunch time we wandered outside
from the exhibition centre and opened HERE maps to find a nearby kebab
shop (don't ask). Ogra pulled out his MX4 running rc-proposed and used
HERE to find a local shop and navigate to it. Our destination seemed a
ludicrous distance away from our current location, until we noticed
the current location on the map was actually the hotel we left some 5
hours previously. Cue a few moments of stabbing to refresh the app to
make it realise we've moved (quite a bit as it happened).

While this may be "Working As Designed", it's not "Working in a
meaningfully useful way". Having a location which is "aged" by over
half a working day is pretty useless on a mobile device. Other
platforms don't do this (in my experience), neither should we, battery
life be dammed, frankly. I want the map to show me where I am now, not
where I ate breakfast sometime in the past.

>> Then it thinks about
>> refreshing the location and refining it over the next few minutes or so if
>> the application is one that asks where you are again and again. If it could
>> take a peek at the satellites every so often then it would enable several
>> additional classes of application and would be less broken for things that
>> only ask once.
>>
>
> That's incorrect. The service keeps on delivering updates to
> applications that have requested continuous location updates.

Then there is a bug in the platform. The browser (in which HERE runs)
is a default app and the location service is also pre-installed. There
is an issue here which clearly need nailing as I'm certain we're not
the only 3 people in the world to experience this.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Error log?

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On 8 February 2016 at 13:52, Sam Bull  wrote:
> I'm trying to test our new click package on the phone, but it fails to
> launch. It just shows the loading splash screen and then immediately
> crashes. Where would I find some reasoning behind this? I can't find any
> logs for the app under ~/.cache/upstart/.
>

That's the right place.

Did you refresh (pull down) the click scope so it's using the right
version of your app?
Check that the files were installed correctly to
/opt/click.ubuntu.com/yourappname/current ?
Anything interesting in dmesg? Specifically any apparmor failures?
  sudo dmesg | grep DEN

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Documentviewer for changes.

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Hi Stef,

On 5 February 2016 at 14:46, Stef Bon  wrote:
> So where can I find the source of  this viewer, or can somebody give
> me usefull links?
>

https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Interested in writing Ubuntu Phone development tutorials?

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Hi Chris,

On 1 February 2016 at 13:28, Chris Ward  wrote:
> I apologise if this is considered ‘spammy’ in anyway, but I was recommended
> to post to the list by an Ubuntu team member so…
>

Seems reasonable to me :)

> I have always loved the concept of Ubuntu Phone and edit the mobile channel
> of SitePoint (sitepoint.com/mobile), we had an article a few months ago on
> Ubuntu Phone UX and it was surprisingly popular and I’d love to follow it up
> with some more development focussed articles.
>

I think this is a great idea. We have our "Canonical" development
guides and documentation over at http://developer.ubuntu.com/ of
course, but I'd personally love to see more 3rd party sites curating
high quality content for developers. We may even link off-site from
developer.u.c if those articles are current, well written and
accurate. We certainly could do with more developer perspective
written tutorials, how-to video tutorials or live code video sessions.
I'm sure others have wishlists of articles they'd like to see too.

> We pay for contributions and your work gets a lot of exposure, if this
> interests you then please send me an email.
>

Thanks for letting us know. I'd not have known about your site had you
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 27.01.16

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Hi Peter,

On 28 January 2016 at 10:18, Peter Valachovic
 wrote:
> regarding this I would like to kindly ask what are the plans on field of
> tablet with ubuntu touch.
>

We're still working on the software for Ubuntu on tablets.

> Because I saw article about bq may have something prepared
> (http://tabletzona.es/2016/01/19/bq-tablet-ubuntu-mwc/) but I haven't found
> any mention about it on canonical side.
>

It's not up to us to announce hardware devices. We "just" make the
software, and our partners announce hardware when they're ready to.

> Personally I think best candidate from hardware point of view is nvidia
> shield k1, which seems to be able to run even desktop version of ubuntu, but
> hardware is not the only decision player I guess; then even if not
> officially, is there community attempt for building touch on K1? (not found
> in devices list on wiki) because the drivers seems to be available
> (https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-open-source) or is there any other
> problem with it which I have missed?
>

I'm not aware of anyone working on a K1 port.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] When is a ubuntu phone not a ubuntu phone?

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On 28 January 2016 at 10:10, Gareth France  wrote:
> Is anyone aware that when searching for 'BQ phone' in google and selecting
> the ubuntu.com page relating to these the links contained are directed to
> the standard android editions on the bq page?
>
> Is it actually still possible to just buy a ubuntu phone direct from BQ
> right now?
>

https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e5/
https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5-fr/

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] total flash and whole system

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On 27 January 2016 at 13:09, Wayne Ward  wrote:
> Cheers oliver will that flash with ota9 built in now its on the servers or
> will I have to wait for it.. Id like to install it with it all updated to
> latest if possible

A full clean flash always grabs latest image from the system image
server for that device. As per the recent mail from Lukasz Zemczak,
OTA-9 is released for your device, so you'll get that.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Streaming mirscreencast, was: Hdmi cable

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On 13 January 2016 at 13:15, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> El día Wednesday, January 13, 2016 a las 12:48:43PM +0000, Alan Pope escribió:
>
>> On 13 January 2016 at 11:57, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
>> > I described here:
>> > https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter6.html
>> > how one can bring the MIR screen onto an X11 server with around 60
>> > frames per second, which is good enough to produce for example a demo
>> > for a talk in a conference.
>> >
>>
>> This is interesting to me, thanks for documenting it. Have you tried
>> it recently though? I tried on my OnePlus One and the mirscreencast
>> call on the device just launches and stops until you remove the
>> --stdout parameter. On the PC side nothing ever appears on screen, no
>> mplayer.
>
> I tested it right now for some minutes with the rotating clock; it works
> exactly as described. See attached desktop picture. or here:
> http://www.unixarea.de/mircast.png
>

Thanks for confirming. I must have done something stupid, it works here too now.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Streaming mirscreencast, was: Hdmi cable

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On 13 January 2016 at 11:57, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> I described here:
> https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter6.html
> how one can bring the MIR screen onto an X11 server with around 60
> frames per second, which is good enough to produce for example a demo
> for a talk in a conference.
>

This is interesting to me, thanks for documenting it. Have you tried
it recently though? I tried on my OnePlus One and the mirscreencast
call on the device just launches and stops until you remove the
--stdout parameter. On the PC side nothing ever appears on screen, no
mplayer.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Compatibility issues

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Hi Gareth,

Thanks for the detailed mail and persevering with Jessops. Sorry it
didn't work out for you.

On 22 December 2015 at 15:45, Gareth France  wrote:
> I have just been to the photography shop Jessops to have some of the photos
> printed that are stored on my phone. They have kiosks there designed so you
> can plug in your memory card, phone or other device to access the content.
> Unfortunately they do not seem to work with Ubuntu.
>

I expect that to be fixed if this bug is dealt with:-

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtp/+bug/1283871

Fact is no system which expects to see a camera/media device will see
the photos on Ubuntu phone. There was some discussion on the bug as to
whether it's right to present the same folders as other media devices
or not. I'm strongly of the opinion that in order for us to be as
maximally compatible as possible we should just do what the other
systems do with little or no intervention by the user.

Users expect to plug a camera-device into a computer and for it to be
recognised as such. We don't do this, that's a bug, plain and simple.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Gesture

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Hi Behrouz,

On 17 December 2015 at 08:48, Behrouz Ramezani
 wrote:
> Hello everyone
> Is there anyway to disable gesture of terminal?

Do you refer to the single finger up/down/left/right for cursor
movement and two finger scroll?

If so, no, they're not currently changeable, but I'm interested to
learn what use there is for disabling them.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Testing apps if you don't have a phone

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Hi all,

I thought this might be of interest to some of the app developers here.

http://popey.com/blog/2015/12/16/testing-ubuntu-apps-as-a-service/

tl;dr. Stuart Langridge and I made an simple, easy to use,
experimental app tester called Marvin, for Ubuntu Click Packages,
which emails you screenshots and logs of your app while running on a
real device you may not own.

In the future we may add more (different) devices, networking & GPS
support, autopilot, or some other way to enable app devs to run
automated testing scripts on the device. We'd welcome feedback /
suggestions / bug reports :)

http://marvin.popey.com/

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Emulator of calc TI-58

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On 11 December 2015 at 11:33, sturmflut  wrote:
>> The app TilEm doesn't support TI-58
>
> Hmmm, TilEm seems to use GTK as a backend, and GTK should support Mir,
> so it might be possible to get TilEm working somehow and then add
> support for the TI-58?
>

TilEm has been ported over and been in the store for a couple of years
now. It just doesn't support every device. However the code is on
github so, potentially could be updated.

https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.labsin.tilem
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] stuck on bq splash logo after installing 201

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Hi Victor,

2015-12-11 7:03 GMT+00:00 Victor Gonzalez :
> Does anybody got krillin or vegeta stuck in the bq splash after installing 
> the rc 201?

Just updated my krillin. It sat at the bq splash for longer than I
expected (or I'm just thinking that because of this email) but then I
got the Ubuntu " . . . . . " screen and now I'm looking at the welcome
screen.

So all seems okay here.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] impossible to install 15.04 SDK using chroot on 14.04.3 LTS

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On 30 November 2015 at 20:17, Mattias  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am following this guide for cordova beginners
> (http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/html-5/guides/cordova-guide/) and I
> can't install the SDK for 14.10 or 15.04 using chroot:
>
> sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk.15.04 create

I think that should probably be:-

sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create

You typed:-

sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk.15.04 create

(dot/hyphen typo)

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No HotSpot on mako after OTA-8

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On 24 November 2015 at 12:00, Alan Pope  wrote:
> Hi Felipe,
>
> On 24 November 2015 at 11:49, Felipe De La Puente  
> wrote:
>> I'm pretty convinced that I saw the hotspot icon around before OTA-8. Now
>> that I need it I can't find it.
>>
>
> You're not going mad, you did see it, and it was removed.
>
>> Am I missing something? Was it removed on purpose? Is it hidden (any
>> workaround to activate it)?
>>
>
> It wasn't supposed to be enabled on Nexus 4 because it didn't work reliably.
>

Sorry, my mail got sent too early, it's explained on this bug:-

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1487157

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No HotSpot on mako after OTA-8

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Hi Felipe,

On 24 November 2015 at 11:49, Felipe De La Puente  wrote:
> I'm pretty convinced that I saw the hotspot icon around before OTA-8. Now
> that I need it I can't find it.
>

You're not going mad, you did see it, and it was removed.

> Am I missing something? Was it removed on purpose? Is it hidden (any
> workaround to activate it)?
>

It wasn't supposed to be enabled on Nexus 4 because it didn't work reliably.


> I would really appreciate your help on this, as I need to use my phone to
> get internet access during the following weeks.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Felipe.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] no OTA-8 notice on my MX4

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On 24 November 2015 at 10:33, alex  wrote:
> the OTA-8 has been released, but my MX4 does not receive any notice about
> it..
> The phone regularly downloads updates (r177 today) and i'd like to know if
> this (no OTA-8 notice) is a right situation.
>

If you're getting regular (daily) updates then you're not on the
"stable" channel which OTA-8 was delivered to, but more likely you're
on a channel which is giving you images which eventually get promoted
to an "OTA" update. So right now you're actually running code newer
than OTA-8.

You can see what channel you're on with the following command:-

>From a desktop over USB:-

adb shell system-image-cli --info

Or directly in the terminal:-

system-image-cli --info

I'd imagine you're on some rc-proposed channel, which is fine, but
isn't as well tested as the stable channel.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Gallery

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Hiya,

On 9 November 2015 at 19:32, Wayne Ward  wrote:
> Just updated gallery on my bq and couldn't select any photos so removed it
> and now cant reinstall as its not in the store! How do i get it back?
>

Unfortunately a show-stopper bug was found after the latest gallery
was released to the store. We unpublished it (which is why you can't
see it right now) to be safe.

Here's a mirror of the previous version you can manually install to
get you out of this bind.

http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/11/2015-11-09-050001/com.ubuntu.gallery_2.9.1.1238_armhf.click

Do this to install it with the phone attached over usb:-

adb shell
wget 
http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/11/2015-11-09-050001/com.ubuntu.gallery_2.9.1.1238_armhf.click
pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted com.ubuntu.gallery_2.9.1.1238_armhf.click

And you should be good.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] DocViewer (powered by LibreOfficeKit) beta

[Alan Pope]

Hi Richard,

On 6 November 2015 at 19:42, Richard Somlói  wrote:
> First, thanks everybody for your hard work. I've just installed it on my
> phone and it's crashing with .odt files for me too. Nexus4 (rc-proposed
> channel)
>

I'd welcome people sending me files (with data redacted if needed)
which cause the app to crash. We can then analyse what's happening and
potentially fix it.

Feel free to send them directly to me, or share them online somehow.

If you can't share them, feel free to send me the contents of the log
file named ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.docviewer*

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] DocViewer (powered by LibreOfficeKit) beta

[Alan Pope]

Hi Matthias,

Thanks for testing!

On 6 November 2015 at 19:20, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ wget 
> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/docviewer/20151106/com.ubuntu.docviewer_2.0.193-beta_armhf.click
> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ pkcon --allow-untrusted install-local 
> com.ubuntu.docviewer_2.0.193-beta_armhf.click
> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo click register --user=phablet 
> 'com.ubuntu.docviewer' 2.0.193-beta
>

For future reference the last step you did is not necessary. The pkcon
command will install and register the application.

Click command is only really needed if you wish to manually remove the package.

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[Ubuntu-phone] DocViewer (powered by LibreOfficeKit) beta

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Hey everyone,

Thanks to the sterling work of Stefano, Roman and Bjoern I have
something super to share. We've integrated LibreOfficekit 5.0.3 into
DocViewer, so you can now view common office documents directly on
your Ubuntu device.

This is what it currently looks like:-

http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-090544.png
http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-090559.png
http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-090617.png
http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-090632.png
http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-090647.png

It's not ready for prime time so we haven't uploaded it to the store
yet. It's very much a preliminary 'beta' but we wanted to share it to
get wider testing among our technical audience (that's you and your
device-owning friends who may not be on this list).

Set your expectations accordingly!

This can open LibreOffice (and ye olde legacy formats like Microsoft
Office) documents, sheets and presentations for viewing. The user
interface around displaying / zooming / page flipping and the full
screen experience are under development. (These things may happen
faster if you get involved in development of the app :D). Just drop
your office docs in /home/phablet/Documents and they should show up in
the app.

I've put the click package, installation details and some notes and
known issues in the readme linked below.  Have fun, and send your
appreciation to Stefano, Roman and Bjoern!

http://people.canonical.com/~alan/docviewer/readme.txt

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] small GitBook about BQ E4.5

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Hi Matthias.

On 16 October 2015 at 13:35, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> https://www.gitbook.com/book/gurucubano/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/details
>
> and it will grow there. Hints, correction etc. are welcome.
>
> Thanks to Niklas for the helping hand to initialize the move.
>

This is excellent news! Thanks so much for doing this move.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How do we protect the user from data-collecting apps?

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On 7 October 2015 at 15:11, Alberto Mardegan
 wrote:
> Or, even better, give some sort of real-time indication whenever the active
> application is making active use of the internet? (maybe with a led-like
> item in the indicators bar)

(without addressing your main point)

On Android I've used a little app which overlays real-time network
traffic info on the screen as e.g. "D: 664KB/s  U: 11KB/s". I have it
always on and positioned just below the top bar, but that's
configurable.

Here's a screenshot:- http://imgur.com/6VRx1j4

It's totally an expert nerdy option, but it would be quite nice to be
able to do overlays like this, so they could be app-installed, not
necessarily baked in.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The problem with "no background processing for apps"

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On 1 October 2015 at 15:52, Michał Sawicz  wrote:
> I would love for us to have this discussion in a manner "I have this use
> case, how do you plan / how can we enable it in the given constraints"
> instead of plain "you don't support this, change it!".
>
>

Where would you propose we track these use cases? And what criteria do
we use for determining their validity, priority and so on?

I too would love to see some of these use cases fixed. I've had a few
apps ideas which never got off the drawing board because I know the
lack of background processing kills the ideas dead, so I'm as
interested as everyone to know what path I can take, and what
expectations I should have.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Password dialog for Terminal

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Hi Matthew,

On 26 September 2015 at 09:23, Matthew Exon  wrote:
>
> Not sure if this is a bug, maybe I just don't understand the security
> model...
>
> If I start Terminal it asks for my password.  But when my bluetooth
> keyboard is connected I can type commands into the window behind and see
> the results.  I seem to be able to do anything I could do if I'd
> authenticated.  That doesn't seem right.
>

Yes, it's a bug.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1488481

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fixing Volume Controls

[Alan Pope]

On 21 September 2015 at 10:00, Michael Zanetti
 wrote:
> I see your concerns, valid points there.
>
> Probably the hardware buttons should then control ringtone volume while
> no app is focused (or a call indication is on top) and control the
> multimedia volume whenever an app is focused or media-hub is playing in
> the background.
>
> Switching the functionality solely depending if audio plays or not (as
> we currently do) will always have the problem that it switches too
> often/quickly so you'd be never able to adjust a volume in games like
> Dinosaur with them.
>
> Would this be something you think it would work?
>

We should loop mpt into this discussion as I believe this is his spec
we're following currently:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fixing Volume Controls

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Hi Michael,

On 21 September 2015 at 09:30, Michael Zanetti
 wrote:
> * Make the hardware buttons always control the multimedia volume, that
> is, game sounds, music player etc but don't ever touch ringtone volume
> with them.
>

While this works for your specific use case of "Game is making noise
in a library", what if I'm in the library and my phone rings? I want
to reduce the volume quickly so the call goes to voicemail. If the
volume keys only work for multimedia then I can't quiet a ringing
phone.

> * Make the volume slider in the indicator always control the multimedia
> volume, never touch the ringtone volume.
>

Again, how do I reduce the volume of an incoming call?

> * Apps should always use the multimedia role, regardless of what they do
> (unless thy deal with actual calls or incoming messages).
>
> * Add a second "slider" to the indicators that controls ringtone volume.
> That slider could be a bit special tho, i.e. that it works more like a
> profile selector. 0 is "vibrate only", 1 is "beep" and all the greater
> values adjust volume of the ringtones.
>

This won't help if your phone is locked (and indicators aren't
accessible in one of our security settings).

> One thing I've not mentioned here yet are alarms. Alarms, again
> could/should have their own role. But one never controls that role with
> either the buttons or a slider. Instead, each alarm has his own volume
> value assigned when the alarm is created, and an alarm is always played
> at the volume its config says (except maybe only vibrate when the phone
> profile is set to vibrate only - but those are small details we could
> work out on the road).
>
> IMO this behaviour would make the volume way more predictable,
> especially since one needs to use a slider in the indicators to change
> the ringtone volume but at the same time giving the user visual feedback
> on what the current volume is.
>

I'd rather we just did what Android does and have an icon in the
volume popup so you know what you're adjusting.

e.g. http://imgur.com/ggQdZBS (adjusting media volume) vs
http://imgur.com/3Y1vapF (adjusting alert volume).

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[Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [ubuntu-system-settings] GSM codes handling broken in system-settings, dialer-app, or address-book-app

[Alan Pope]

Forwarding to a more appropriate list.

Peter, probably best to bring these things up here on ubuntu-phone list.


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Date: 16 September 2015 at 22:04
Subject: [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [ubuntu-system-settings] GSM codes
handling broken in system-settings, dialer-app, or address-book-app
To: ubuntu-touch-corea...@lists.launchpad.net


I've been noticing a bug with GSM codes for a while. It was already
there before OTA-5. Now I'm unsure where to file the bug, because I
can't tell which app is the offending party.

How to reproduce the bug:

- I'm trying to use a GSM code stored on my SIM card. Namely, it's a
code to query the current credit on the SIM (*147#).
- When I go to the Dialer and I press the Contacts icon, that leads me
to the Contacts app ... where I can't find the SIM codes. (see below
why I mention this)
- When I go back to the Dialer and I press the Settings icons, that
leads me to the Phone screen in the System settings.
- I continue with Services on my first SIM card. (Good! All the
numbers I expect are listed: service numbers and GSM codes of my
network provider.)
- When I select an obvious GSM code ("Mobile Balance") a detail page
opens with a "Call" button at the bottom. When I press this button the
Dialer app opens with the GSM code *but* with the last character (hash
code) *missing", i.e. "*147" instead of "*147#" is shown.
- Of course, when I place a call to this number the phone thinks it's
a regular, albeit short number and tries to perform a regular call.
Only when I append a "#" character in the end I can successfully send
the GSM code and received the reply (which work flawlessly).

That's obviously a bug, but which component is the affected one? The
sender (system-settings) or the receiver (dialer-app)? Then,
interestingly, there's no bug tracker configured in the
ubuntu-system-settings project.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings

A design comment: The dialog box being displayed for the answer from
my network provider has two action buttons, Cancel and OK. They both
seem to have the same function: dismiss the dialog. Probably a single
button, Close, would also do it.

Finally, I'd like to have easier access to the Service numbers on my
SIM card. At the moment I can only access them via the System Settings
> Phone > Services (of one of my SIM cards). It would be handy to have
them also in the Contacts app, e.g. via a special options menu (I
think that's how Android has got it, at least on my ancient Samsung
phone). An additional option in the Contact app's settings screen
could do it (I don't want to import the numbers from the SIM; I want
to use them, period.). I need those numbers only sometimes, and I
usually have a hard time remembering where to find them.

Thanks in advance for clarifying,
Peter

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] It's possible to install Skype (app, not web app) in Ubuntu Touch?

[Alan Pope]

Hi Marco,

On 15 September 2015 at 14:29, Marco Graziotti  wrote:
> So, I understood that there are problem for developing software to ARM based
> architecture, right?

Not really. Look at the two most popular mobile platforms, the vast
majority of those devices are ARM based. For free software programs
that are in the archive and successfully build for ARM (as well as
other architectures) then there is less of an issue (assuming they
work under Mir or XMir). What is a problem (for some consumers) is the
availability of proprietary software on their platform of choice.
Skype (and others like WhatsApp) are proprietary, and thus only the
vendor can determine what platforms they support. It may be that
Microsoft make a Skype release which works on ARM on Ubuntu, but
that's very much up to them, as it's their investment.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Nexus 7 2012

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Hi Sameer,

On 13 September 2015 at 23:06, Sameer Verma  wrote:
> Has anyone revisited installation of a newer image to the Nexus 7 2012?
> Curious.
>

As I understand it the main issue with the N7 2012 is that the GPU is
a Tegra part which I believe caused some headaches. Not sure the Mir
guys would want to re-visit that :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Notes broken

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On 9 September 2015 at 13:21, Pat McGowan  wrote:
> The Unity Actions API was deprecated last Sept (see
> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg09721.html)
>
> Around ota5 the break came as we did a cleanup in the Action types we
> accept, so whereas we had accepted QObject, from now on we only accept UITK
> Actions
> But as of almost a year ago we expected no apps to be using the import.
>

Fixed version now uploaded to the store.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General Slowness after OTA-6 update

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On 8 September 2015 at 19:17, Jim Hodapp  wrote:
> Does anyone know if there's a bug filed for this issue and against the
> appropriate packages/projects? It'd be nice to know if the right person is
> looking into fixing this apport issue.
>

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1278780

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Notes broken

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On 8 September 2015 at 17:37, Sam Bull  wrote:
> I've been thinking about maintaining the old app, if I have time in a
> couple of weeks, I'd like to start working on this. (Need to get a new
> version of my Bitcoin app released first)
>

I've proposed a simple merge to fix the current non-starting issue.
I'll get it updated in the store when it lands and I've done some
testing.

It would be great to have some more developers on it, if there's
enough people interested in reviving it. It's good to have some
choices. Happy to help.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Notes broken

[Alan Pope]

Hi,

On 8 September 2015 at 16:23, K1773R  wrote:
> After the OTA 5/6, the Notes App crashes on Start-up. I'm referring to
> the "old" non "evernote" version.
>
> How can i get my Notes back? I guess i'm not the only one affected by
> this.
>

Looks like this bug:-
https://bugs.launchpad.net/notes-app/+bug/1492551

The Notes app was deprecated a while ago and replaced by the Evernote
based Notes app (previously called Reminders). We never removed the
old Notes app from the store (perhaps we should have).

I'll speak to the guys and see if we can bump the version in the store
to make it work again. Sorry about this.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General Slowness after OTA-6 update

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Hi Jim,

On 8 September 2015 at 13:24, Jim Hodapp  wrote:
> Or couldn't we just deprioritize apport as a process so that it can't use up
> all of the CPU and truly make it a background task. Is there any reason why
> apport would need normal priority while running?
>

The result could be worse.

If for example Unity8/Mir crashes, then while apport does its business
the shell isn't available (obviously, as it's just crashed) and
doesn't restart until after apport is done. This likely results in the
user seeing longer periods of "lock up" and will more likely reboot
the device (the only remedial measure they can take) almost certainly
resulting in an unusable crash dump, leading to us having no way to
determine the reason for the initial crash.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General Slowness after OTA-6 update

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On 8 September 2015 at 10:25, Jean-Baptiste Lallement
 wrote:
> And https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1493281
> is for the auto-reverting setting.
>
> Thanks for reporting these issues.
>

Marked as dupe of another bug which has been lingering for a while...

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] terminal-app shows terminal data when asking for password

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Hi Matthias,

On 25 August 2015 at 07:57, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> I have a terminal-app click package which integrates sta start of an
> application, the MUA 'mutt'. But the same is true for the original
> terminal-app, only less visible because not in colors: when the terminal
> is asking for the password, it makes already visible data in the
> terminal window, best visible in landscape mode, see attachment.
>

Thanks for this! I have seen this in the past but not recently, so
glad someone else can reproduce it.

Can you please file a bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] unable to install libsmbclient-dev:armhf on ubuntu-sdk-15.04

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Hey Carlos.

I have a workaround I have been playing with. I will propose a filemanager
merge when I get back to my keyboard later.

Cheers,
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On 22 Aug 2015 1:37 pm, "Carlos Jose Mazieri" 
wrote:

> Can anyone fix this?
>
> setting up python2.7-minimal (2.7.8-10ubuntu1.1) ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7-minimal.postinst: 42:
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7-minimal.postinst: python2.7: not found
> Setting up linux-libc-dev:armhf (3.16.0-44.59) ...
> dpkg: error processing package python2.7-minimal (--configure):
> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit
> status 127 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
> python-minimal: python-minimal depends on python2.7-minimal (>=
> 2.7.8-1~); however: Package python2.7-minimal is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing package python-minimal (--configure):
> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems
> prevent configuration of python2.7: python2.7 depends on
> python2.7-minimal (= 2.7.8-10ubuntu1.1); however: Package
> python2.7-minimal is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing
> package python2.7 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving
> unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
> python: python depends on python2.7 (>= 2.7.8-1~); however: Package
> python2.7 is not configured yet. python depends on python-minimal (=
> 2.7.8-1); however: Package python-minimal is not configured yet. dpkg:
> error processing package python (--configure): dependency problems -
> leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration
> of python-talloc: python-talloc depends on python (>= 2.7); however:
> Package python is not configured yet. python-talloc depends on python
> (= 2.0.6); however: Package python-talloc is not configured yet. dpkg:
> error processing package samba-libs:armhf (--configure): dependency
> problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent
> configuration of libsmbclient:armhf: libsmbclient:armhf depends on
> samba-libs (= 2:4.1.11+dfsg-1ubuntu2.2); however: Package
> samba-libs:armhf is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing package
> libsmbclient:armhf (--configure): dependency problems - leaving
> unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
> libsmbclient-dev:armhf: libsmbclient-dev:armhf depends on libsmbclient
> (= 2:4.1.11+dfsg-1ubuntu2.2); however: Package libsmbclient:armhf is
> not configured yet. dpkg: error processing package
> libsmbclient-dev:armhf (--configure): dependency problems - leaving
> unconfigured
> Setting up linux-libc-dev:amd64 (3.16.0-44.59) ...
> Errors were encountered while processing: python2.7-minimal
> python-minimal python2.7 python python-talloc samba-libs:armhf
> libsmbclient:armhf libsmbclient-dev:armhf
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> Command returned 100: schroot -u root -c
> source:click-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf -- apt-get dist-upgrade --yes
> ---Click exited with errors, please check the output---
>
>
>
> On 7/14/15, Carlos Mazieri  wrote:
> > Steve, Many Thanks,
> >
> > It only happens on "chroot  SDK", outside SDK on Desktop and on the
> > Phone this install works.
> >
> > Can anyone from Canonical fix this "python-talloc" package, making it a
> > multiarch cross-installable?
> >
> >
> > On 13-07-2015 16:58, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >> Hi Carlos,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:21:26PM -0300, Carlos Mazieri wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am trying to install  libsmbclient-dev in armhf SDK in order to build
> >>> a
> >>> new file manager click package with Samba support.
> >>> Can anyone help on this issue?
> >>> My commands:
> >>> ==
> >>>$ sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 run
> >>># apt-get install libsmbclient-dev:armhf
> >>>
> >>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >>>libacl1:armhf libattr1:armhf libaudit1:armhf libbsd0:armhf
> >>> libcap2:armhf
> >>>libldb1:armhf libntdb1:armhf libpam0g:armhf libpopt0:armhf
> >>>libpython-stdlib:armhf libpython2.7:armhf
> >>> libpython2.7-minimal:armhf
> >>>libpython2.7-stdlib:armhf libreadline6:armhf libsmbclient:armhf
> >>>libsmbclient-dev:armhf libtalloc2:armhf libtdb1:armhf
> >>> libtevent0:armhf
> >>>libwbclient0:armhf python:armhf python-minimal:armhf
> >>> python-talloc:armhf
> >>>python2.7:armhf python2.7-minimal:armhf samba-libs:armhf
> >>> 0 upgraded, 26 newly installed, 6 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> >>> Need to get 8769 kB of archives.
> >> Sorry, but this shows that the python-talloc package, which is a
> >> dependency
> >> of libsmbclient-dev (via samba-libs), is not multiarch
> cross-installable.
> >> The package would need to be changed for you to be able to use this as a
> >> cross-build dependency.
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

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Hi,

On 14 August 2015 at 18:24, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> The first part is done (and all worked as you described):
>
> $ ./make_fat_package.sh
> ...
>  [ armhf ] Cleaning up build dir
>  [ ubuntu-sdk-15.04 ] Modifying manifest.json
>  [ ubuntu-sdk-15.04 ] Build *multi.click package
>  WARNING:root:Ignoring missing framework "ubuntu-sdk-15.04"
>  Now executing: click-review ./com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7._multi.click
>  Errors
>  --
>  - security_template_valid (terminal.apparmor)
>  (MANUAL REVIEW) 'unconfined' not allowed

You'll need to change the above if you want to upload it to the store.
We do not allow unconfined apps in the store (other than a couple of
Canonical made/managed ones by prior agreement) so you will need to
use a more traditional set of permissions in your apparmor profile. If
you're testing this package just for your own interest, and not for
distribution in the store, then you don't need to worry about that as
it's your device, you can run whatever unconfined apps you want.

>  ./com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7._multi.click: FAIL
> Successfully built package in './com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7._multi.click'.
> And were done!! \o/
>

\o/

> 1)
> I will change the name from 'terminal' to 'mutt-terminal' and have to
> look where this mus be done, perhaps in the json files and some other
> places;
>

Yeah, for one you can look in the CMakeLists.txt - the first line in
fact, also the manifest.json.in, and rename the .desktop file. There
shouldn't be too many more places to fiddle.

> 2)
> Can the above error msg be ignored?
>

The warning about missing framework can, yes.

> 3)
> Can I just copy the mutt files and shared libs below the dir in which I
> checked out (actually 'ubuntu-terminal-app') or must the names of these
> additional files appear in some file(s) to get packed into the click?
> The structure ther is like this:
>
> $ find mutt.click/
> mutt.click/
> mutt.click/lib
> mutt.click/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf
> mutt.click/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libanonymous.so
> mutt.click/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libanonymous.so.2
> ...
> mutt.click/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpython2.7.so.1.0
> mutt.click/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsasl2.so.2
> mutt.click/.muttrc
> ...
>

I'd put the mutt binary in ./lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/bin and the libs
in ./lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf, and (if you want it to be a multi-arch
package) the right arch bins and libs in ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and
./lib/i386-linux-gnu once you've confirmed you got it right with the
armhf ones. The environment should be set up correctly that the
binaries and libraries are found when run on-device. Just set the
Exec=mutt in your desktop file and it _should_ run the right one :)

> To be continued ... :-)
>
> Thanks for your help
>

No problem. I'm glad people are finding the community contributed core
apps code and build setup useful for their own projects. Thanks for
discussing this all in the open where others can learn too.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] "Stagefright" affects Ubuntu touch?

[Alan Pope]

No.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/Stagefright
On 13 Aug 2015 9:58 pm, "Baskaran S"  wrote:

> As per wiki [1] the "Stagefright" bug affects android devices. Since
> ubuntu touch also using the AOSP drivers, will it affects our OS too?
> "The underlying attack vector
>  exploits
>  certain integer
> overflow  vulnerabilities
>  in the
> Android's core component called "Stagefright", which is a complex software
> library  implemented in
> C++  as part of the Android Open
> Source Project  
> (AOSP)
> and used as a backend engine for playing various multimedia formats such as
> MP4  files"
>
> Will Ubuntu touch affects by this, if yes any action will take place in
> the upcoming releases?
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

[Alan Pope]

On 13 August 2015 at 18:44, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> I willing to put hands on this, but I would need some guiding to make a
> click package from the source tree after fetching this from
>

Awesome.

> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-terminal-app/reboot
>
> mostly because I'm not used to this Ubuntu SDK and the tool chain behind
> this. Once the terminal app click package is there, I think I know how
> to add the existing (but not working) mut click packga.
>

I tend to build mine (outside the SDK) like this:-

Setup an armhf schroot:-

$ sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create

I would also make one for amd64 and i386 because I may want to make a
"fat" package containing binaries for phone and laptop/desktop
computers too. The SDK doesn't yet support this directly using cmake
so we kinda fudge it a bit.

$ sudo click chroot -a amd64 -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create
$ sudo click chroot -a i386 -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create

# When I want to build, I just navigate to where the code is, and run
this "make_fat_package.sh" script:-

http://paste.ubuntu.com/12072962/

(which I got from Dan Chapman).

This basically builds for all 3 arches and then crams all three builds
into one click package. There's a few apps in the store built like
this.

If you only want one arch, just change line 12 in that script.

Some things will need dependencies installing inside the schroot. You
can get a shell inside the schroot with this:-

$ sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint

You can then use the standard apt commands to get whatever
dependencies are needed. Note that you need to specify the
architecture if you're installing dev packages inside the schroot such
as:-

$ apt-get install libfoo-dev:armhf

Hope that helps. Here's the typical output of me running
"make_fat_package.sh" against terminal.

http://paste.ubuntu.com/12073031/

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

[Alan Pope]

On 13 August 2015 at 18:05, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> El día Wednesday, August 12, 2015 a las 12:41:12PM -0400, Robert Schroll 
> escribió:
>> I have no idea if support for terminal apps is on a roadmap.  Perhaps
>> someone else can comment here.
>

We often discussed the possibility of a reusable "Terminal component"
based off the existing code base. A developer such as yourself could
grab that, add your app (mutt, irssi, whatever), modify a config file
(to say what binary it should launch) and "click build" it. You'd get
a click package which you could put in the store, which had the
terminal inside it and your app. That way you have your own
customisable terminal which you could tweak for the specific app.
Perhaps setting the colour scheme, adding application specific
shortcut keys to the keyboard overlay. When the user exists the app,
the terminal closes (rather than drops to a shell).

Unfortunately nobody every got the time to do this, but it's something
I would still love to happen.

In essence I think someone could take the terminal code from
lp:ubuntu-terminal-app, rip out the tab support (because that's
probably not needed) and anything else extraneous (there's not a lot
to do here) and provide that as a template.

If someone has time to look at that, it would be great.

> I filed a bug report in launchpad:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1484412
>

I think that's effectively a dupe of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1325571 ?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Gallery

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On 3 July 2015 at 17:20, daniel Wood  wrote:
> I've uninstalled, reinstalled and rebooted. The icon is the same, it
> flickers when going full screen and downloaded images are sorted by the date
> taken, not the date downloaded.
> Any more information I can provide?
>
> Any logs?
>

This will show the version installed:-

click list | grep gallery

Also when you fire it up, you'll get a recently written log file in
~/.cache/upstart which has the version number in it. That lets you
know what version is running.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Gallery

[Alan Pope]

Hi Dan,

On 3 July 2015 at 16:49, daniel Wood  wrote:
> I've just updated the gallery app and non of the listed bugfixes seem to
> have been fixed. Was the correct click package uploaded?

You sure you're running the latest version? Try closing gallery, pull
down to refresh app scope and restart it.

It's revision 1208 which does indeed contain all the fixes listed in
the changelog.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition - adb connection is not working

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On 2 July 2015 at 18:16, Juhapekka Piiroinen  wrote:
> I have ran all the recent updates for the MX4 via the UI. It looks
> like that even pfew reboots and enabling the developer mode etc, I am
> unable to connect to the device via adb. I have the BQ E5 which works
> just fine and I can adb shell to it. Is this some kind of known issue?

The MX4 can be a bit picky about which type of USB port it's connected
to. Try moving to another port, or maybe use a different hub (or a
slower one).

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The image for the Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition has a wrong grid unit?

[Alan Pope]

On 2 July 2015 at 17:57, Juhapekka Piiroinen
 wrote:
> I have bought two phones, the BQ E5 and the Meizu MX4. It looks like
> that the GRID_UNIT_PX seems to be too big for the Meizu MX4 (set to
> 28) when comparing to the BQ E5 (set to 17). Could someone fix it in
> some update, I think that MX4 would be a lot better with the same 17
> or so? Or provide a workaround how to get write access to
> /etc/ubuntu-touch-session.d/android.conf?
>

As a workaround, in ~/.config/upstart/gu.conf

Write this:-

start on starting dbus
exec initctl set-env --global GRID_UNIT_PX=21

Then restart the phone. Things might look a bit wonky though.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] openjdk vs Oracle's jdk

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On 2 July 2015 at 12:38, Mauricio Tavares  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Alan Pope  wrote:
>> On 2 July 2015 at 11:17, Mauricio Tavares  wrote:
>>>   Do I have to use oracle's or can I get away with openjdk?
>>>
>>
>> For what purpose?
>>
>   For the purpose of building ubuntu phone OS images and applications.
>

We don't use Java in our build of Ubuntu phone.

You can of course use Java in your own applications, and would need to
figure out yourself which is the most appropriate for your use case
based on compatibility, performance, license compliance etc.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] openjdk vs Oracle's jdk

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On 2 July 2015 at 11:17, Mauricio Tavares  wrote:
>   Do I have to use oracle's or can I get away with openjdk?
>

For what purpose?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] code for camera

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On 2 July 2015 at 07:58, Krzysztof Tataradziński  wrote:
> where I can find code responsible for resolution and file format of
> captured photos and videos in Ubuntu Phones?
>

Source for the camera app is at https://code.launchpad.net/camera-app

> And another stupid question, but: what is the correct, official name
> for system in phones? Ubuntu Touch? Ubuntu? Ubuntu for phones?
>

"Ubuntu".

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ r23 total off and unwilling to react

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On 22 June 2015 at 13:57, Matthias Apitz  wrote:
> And btw: I already switched off this sending to Canonical, but magic: it
> turns on again from time to time.
>

That sounds like this bug:-
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie-preferences/+bug/1437633

Also, related to the discussion:-
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1278780

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