[Ubuntu-phone] Installing UBports

2017-06-09 Thread Gareth France
Today I decided to take the plunge and reflash my M10 with the UBports 
image. I visited their site and followed the instructions as best I could.


Using the magic device tool I reflashed it and ended up with an install 
of Ubuntu 15.04 OTA-14. Surely this isn't right? I didn't even lose any 
of my settings. Can someone tell me have I gone wrong and where do I go 
to put my device on the right tracks for future updates?



Thanks


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Idea: consider crowdfunding UBports project

2017-04-16 Thread Gareth France
There are a number of projects on Patreon I would like to support but 
being a pauper I simply can't spare the funds for projects that aren't 
essential for my day to day life. I have however just signed up for $2 
because Touch has come too far to be allowed to fail now. I'd like to 
think I can flash my phone back some day, or perhaps upgrade to a future 
proof phone.



On 16/04/17 13:26, NeoTheThird wrote:


Hey,

thank you so much for your support, your contributions help a lot to 
keep Ubuntu Touch going. In fact, our patreon just today hit 500$ a 
month, that will cover most of our expenses to pay for servers and 
infrastructure.


About asking Canonical for financial support: It'd be pretty darn 
amazing to have their support, but I don't think that will happen and 
it would be a little awkward to ask for that. It's not their project 
anymore, so it's not their obligation to fund it. They poured a lot of 
money into Ubuntu Touch, Unity 8 and convergence and we're thankful 
for that. But we understand that they have to cut some costs to stop 
the company from making huge losses, so it would probably be 
inappropriate to ask them for funding.


All the best,

Jan Sprinz (aka. NeoTheThird, community manager at UBports)




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thank you

2017-04-10 Thread Gareth France




Thanks for your effort.  Competing with mobile OS's was a mountain to 
climb, and I actually thought you got pretty close to the peak!


If there's negative comments on this list, it's due to how far the 
project came against the odds, and frustration at being so close.  And 
that people barely had time to take in the decision.


This has been one of the most brilliant communities anywhere.  I hope 
it continues in some sense, because the potential is still world 
changing.


Thanks for keeping the list open, and all the best!

I do fully understand the negative comments. Communication was very 
mismanaged in the latter stages. I do wonder if that is because Mark and 
other higher ranking officials were agonising over the choice they had 
to make.


It is easy to allow yourself to feel betrayed but take a step back and 
use your head, not your heart. As was already mentioned a lot of cash 
has gone into getting us this far and that is something to be eternally 
grateful for. I for one have a few desktop apps out now which I owe to 
UT, they are spin offs of another dev's phone app. So if it were not for 
UT I would not have gotten my head round packaging and publishing on Ubuntu.


Most importantly I hate my phone, I hate every Android infested moment 
since Ubuntu stopped working on it. I have had the tinyest taste of 
perfection and how am I supposed to make do with anything else? I loved 
my Ubuntu phone and I can't have any ill feeling toward any of the 
people who gave me that experience. Here's to the next chapter in our 
journey!
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

2017-04-05 Thread Gareth France
I feel like I could cry right now. I'm back on android and hating every 
moment. I have been poised to make a grab for the next device to be 
released with snap based UT. I don't want to have to stick with android, 
god no!



On 05/04/17 18:19, NeoTheThird wrote:
Well, we asked for it: 
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/


Something in me just died.


On 05.04.2017 18:13, NeoTheThird wrote:
I'm totally on board the android sucks train. As of the M10 Tablet, i 
think there is an *experimental* build now with snaps working 
additionally to clicks. It's still very basic, i can't stress that 
enough, but i've seen some command line snaps working.


An official road-map would be totally kick-ass. Pleas talk to us, 
Canonical.


All the best,

NeoTheThird


On 05.04.2017 18:04, Wilfridd wrote:

+1 Definitely

BR

Wilfrid

On Wednesday, 5 April 2017 10:24:18 CEST, Mitchell Reese 
 wrote:
So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - 
arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! Will flash back 
shortly - any update yet on snaps, and the next stage for where 
touch is going? I'm particularly interested in the M10 tablet - has 
the landing channel advanced to snaps yet? Would be great to have a 
timeframe from the devs about what's happening - or even an 
indication. Please - don't leave us with android as the only option!


M















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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Broken TouchScreen Meizu Pro 5

2017-03-21 Thread Gareth France

Can you not use an USB OTG cable and plug in a mouse?


On 20/03/17 21:55, Kamouni Mohamed wrote:

Hello,
Sadly my Pro 5 touchscreen is broken and i would like if there is a 
way that i can access my device on computer, i have a lockscreen with 
a passcode so  i can't acess it on my ubuntu without the passcode, 
also the wifi was disabled when the touchscreen broke so i can't ssh 
it neither.


Thanks


Best regards.





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Vibrations stopped working

2017-03-19 Thread Gareth France
You mean vibrations actually worked in the first place? I don't think 
mine ever have!



On 19/03/17 11:46, Guillaume F wrote:

Hi everybody,

I have a problem on one of my bq 4.5: vibrations have stopped working 
entirely. I've tried switching off and on every button I could find 
(other vibrations, vibration settings in notifications, keyboard 
vibration) but to no effect so far.


Is there any way to enable vibrations (or check if they are enabled) 
from the command line? Has any of you encountered such a problem? Is 
it worth writing a bug report? If so, is there a log or any other kind 
of additionnal data I can provide?


Thanks!


Guillaume





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Spare parts for E4.5

2017-03-18 Thread Gareth France
You can purchase the screens on ebay quite cheap. They have the android 
buttons printed on them but to be honest now we are seeing end of life 
for click based ubuntu touch that's probably a good thing!



On 18/03/17 13:04, Marcin Xc wrote:

Hi!

Yesterday I smashed the touchscreen of my e4.5. If anyone of You have 
a dead phone with a working screen please send me a message. You can 
replace almost any part of this phone. Now as it is dead I like BQ 
even more;-))) They build great puzzle phone, easy to disassemble.
Otherwise I have a functioning E4.5 to give away. My famous battery is 
still in a perfect condition;-))

The phone is at the moment in Germany.

Cheers

Marcin





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] E4.5 under Android? // Re:Future device support

2017-02-27 Thread Gareth France
Scrub 'e4.5'. My issue is android. I would hate this on any device. I loved the 
way Ubuntu interacts.

On 27 Feb 2017 14:31, Marcin Xc  wrote:
>
> Can anyone confirm that? Does E4.5 really works under Android so poorly? I 
> used to read on this list quite the opposite: people were delighted with 
> Android but I can't remember if it was for E4.5.
>
> "I need fingers the size of toothpicks to accurately dial!" 
>
> can't You just install some other keyboard? There are plenty of them.
>
> My biggest problem at the moment is the bug that I reported right at the 
> start when I decided to switch to Ubuntu Phone: contacts. I have a few 
> hundred complicated contacts on my device and can't synchronize them 
> correctly. When I bought E4.5 i still had my old Nokia in the other pocket 
> where I had my contacts. Today I face the same problem in the other 
> direction: I can't flash my Aquaris just like that without losing some new 
> contacts that I badly need. Another proof of not thinking about the most 
> important things right at the start. Google has problems synchronizing 
> contacts even with its Nexus devices and someone decided to rely on Google in 
> Ubuntu Touch. "First things first" dear Canonical.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marcin
>
>
> 
> From: "gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk" 
> To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net 
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Future device support
>
> I do think this is honest but a bit too brutal. I agree it would be much 
> better if Canonical were feeding back into the community and allowing us 
> to see that the wheels are still in motion. However for all its faults 
> the E4.5 running Ubuntu is a thing of beauty. Having flashed back to 
> android I have to admit I hate my phone. Nothing works in an intuitive 
> way, many things are no longer easy.
>
> Phoning someone I get an alphanumeric keyboard. I need fingers the size 
> of toothpicks to accurately dial! Things that should swipe don't swipe 
> and settings which should be 'just there' are deeply buried.
>
> Bluetooth works and that's great. The mobile hotspot has usage stats 
> which is pretty neat and automatically turns itself off when I 
> disconnect which is genius. But overall it feels more clunky than ubuntu 
> did a few OTAs back. So Canonical you are really, really on to 
> something. All we can do at this point is wait and hope that the buzz 
> surrounding the project can return given snap based images and some new 
> devices.
>
>
> On 2017-02-27 10:12, Marcin Xc wrote:
> > Official communication as You wrote is a very weak point in this
> > community. Every group should have its leader. Some time ago Lukasz-- 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Future device support

2017-02-27 Thread gareth . france
I do think this is honest but a bit too brutal. I agree it would be much 
better if Canonical were feeding back into the community and allowing us 
to see that the wheels are still in motion. However for all its faults 
the E4.5 running Ubuntu is a thing of beauty. Having flashed back to 
android I have to admit I hate my phone. Nothing works in an intuitive 
way, many things are no longer easy.


Phoning someone I get an alphanumeric keyboard. I need fingers the size 
of toothpicks to accurately dial! Things that should swipe don't swipe 
and settings which should be 'just there' are deeply buried.


Bluetooth works and that's great. The mobile hotspot has usage stats 
which is pretty neat and automatically turns itself off when I 
disconnect which is genius. But overall it feels more clunky than ubuntu 
did a few OTAs back. So Canonical you are really, really on to 
something. All we can do at this point is wait and hope that the buzz 
surrounding the project can return given snap based images and some new 
devices.



On 2017-02-27 10:12, Marcin Xc wrote:

Official communication as You wrote is a very weak point in this
community. Every group should have its leader. Some time ago Lukasz
Zemczak seemed to be one. I remember how marvellously David Planella
did his job as a translation leader. If a group like ours has no
leader, everything becomes to die. I don't get it why Canonical
doesn't take this seriously. I understand they have their own group of
developers and they don't need us any more? As I read posts on this
mailing list I often ask myself a question how anyone over there
behind the steering wheel can allow that people feel unsafe as in a
bus where the driver drank a few beers for his breakfast.

Personally I have a problem. I missed a very important phone call two
days ago. My phone didn't ring though the volume was 100% loud. I
understand there can still be problems with bluetooth after two years
of development but not with a phone and messaging functions. I think
I'll flash my phone with Android this week. Since two years it is an
unreliable testing device which at the end will be abandoned for some
other alpha solution.
Now I read all this great promisses with snap etc. Canonical, i do not
trust You any more. Before the new phone will start to work correctly,
You will leave us alone again, without any official information what's
going on and then You'll abandon the project for some new solution
which will never work correctly. You show an attitude as we were
children in a primary school. I walk with a random mute phone not even
knowing if it will ever work correctly in a future, because it is Your
secret.

Best regards

Marcin

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FROM: Mitchell Reese 
TO: Ubuntu Touch 
SENT: Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:01 PM
SUBJECT: [Ubuntu-phone] Future device support

For the record, both the Meizu Pro 5 and the M10 tablet have 64 bit
processors. Until we have more 'official' communication about which
devices are supported going forward, a bit too soon to bail on the
project. Looking forward to seeing what happens once the snap image
comes to devices. Hopefully we'll hear more information soon.

Mitchell

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] That disgust

2017-02-21 Thread Gareth France

On 21/02/17 22:17, francisco mulas caracuel wrote:

In his day I said it to you, it is a shit that has never worked, they have 
cheated you, habeis bought telephones for nothing, use android that this if it 
works/

How come you haven't been banned and / or got bored of this yet?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

2017-02-21 Thread Gareth France



On 21/02/17 16:10, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Overall a fine device!

matthias
Generally I agree, but my phone obviously required a reflash. It was 
going from bad to worse and I couldn't reflash it as it kept erroring 
and quitting the reflash. I appealed for help but got no responses at 
all, a number of times. So really it is the lack of momentum on this 
group which forced me out, rather than the handset or the software.


No criticism of anybody, but I suspect we are at a point in the 
lifecycle where it just isn't working. There's no momentum behind the 
public facing side of the project. Until the changes are complete and 
the next evolution of the software is out and new handsets are released 
I can understand why the frantic activity we used to see in here has 
relaxed.


I for one am looking forward to getting my hands on the next version. 
Then we can pick up where we left off.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

2017-02-21 Thread Gareth France


On 21/02/17 15:47, Paul Tait wrote:

How is the phone with Android? How does it compare in regards to speed,
responsiveness and battery? Very tempted myself but afraid that once I've
put Android on, I can never go back and it may not be any better.
Well, I only reflashed the phone at lunch so it's a bit early to say. So 
far I can say that I hate it, it is not intuitive, the bits that should 
swipe don't swipe and I have no idea what buttons to push. I really 
miss  Ubuntu.


Surprisingly the handsfree on my car stereo still doesn't work. I'm 
starting to wonder if the microphone might be faulty. I can properly 
make phone calls again so it's solving the biggest problem I've had 
recently.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

2017-02-21 Thread gareth . france
Yes it's true, I've gone over to the dark side! Today I reflashed my 
E4.5 with android. In recent months it has become literally unusable. I 
am unable to put the phone down, I am unable to push buttons whilst in a 
call and I have run totally out of space even though I am not really 
using any!


This morning my alarms did not go off and my bluetooth headset would not 
pair, caused it seems by the lack of space. My phone also refuses to 
reflash with UT.


So due to a combination of lack of discussion of these issues here, 
confirmation support for these devices will end and the fact my device 
won't run the next gen ubuntu I have decided now is the time to jump 
ship, at least until I can afford a new phone.


I still remain committed to the system but it is clear my device is has 
now run its course.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA Hotfix 15: Phone App Freeze

2017-02-07 Thread Gareth France

No, this has no effect I'm afraid. Good idea though.


On 07/02/17 21:43, Mark Raymond wrote:
I don't suppose this can be temporarily resolved the same way my 
problem (dialer crashing on open) was, by clearing the QML cache?


rm -r /home/phablet/.cache/QML/Apps/dialer-app/

On 07/02/17 21:27, Gareth France wrote:
This is the bug that has been driving mt crazy! Thank you for posting 
this.



On 04/02/17 21:07, romensch_2 wrote:

Hi,

For the upcoming OTA-15 hotfix, could you consider this bug for 
fixing as well?


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1648224

Bugs in the phone application are quite critical for a phone OS.

Best regards, Roman











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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA Hotfix 15: Phone App Freeze

2017-02-07 Thread Gareth France

This is the bug that has been driving mt crazy! Thank you for posting this.


On 04/02/17 21:07, romensch_2 wrote:

Hi,

For the upcoming OTA-15 hotfix, could you consider this bug for fixing 
as well?


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1648224

Bugs in the phone application are quite critical for a phone OS.

Best regards, Roman





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ Aquaris E4.5 won't start

2017-01-27 Thread Gareth France
I've had this several times, you have to hold down power until you are 
convinced it will never start and keep going, eventually it boots.



On 27/01/17 19:40, Mark Raymond wrote:
I rebooted my Ubuntu phone earlier today, and it didn't boot up again. 
The screen is completely off, and pressing and holding the power 
button does nothing. The phone had plenty of charge before I rebooted. 
Is there anything I can try to resurrect it?






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-14 released

2017-01-10 Thread Gareth France



On 10/01/17 12:17, Paul Tait wrote:

I appreciate what you're saying, but that is the information that I've
gleaned from here.
Yes I agree entirely. But I suspect that the exact wording can be 
provocative. Some people like to find the fire even if there is no smoke!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-14 released

2017-01-09 Thread gareth . france

On 2017-01-09 15:27, Paul Tait wrote:

On Sunday, 8 January 2017 19:04:56 GMT, Gareth France wrote:

Issues with bluetooth are already well documented. Unfortunately they
are unlikely to get addressed soon as ubuntu touch as we know it will 
be

retired in favour of the snap based system. We should see much greater
momentum after the switch.


Unfortunately that isn't going to do him/her any good. The Aquaris E4.5
won't support the snap based system and so all support has basically 
ended.

Any current bugs are likely to remain permanent.

I also doubt we're going to see any momentum on anything phone specific
again.


--
Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device


I'd tread carefully with those comments if I were you. After the storm 
we've just seen they could ignite another round. I don't think it's fair 
to say we won't see phone specific momemtum again. Of course we will, 
but on a much broader system alongside features which benefit all 
platforms.I'm sure development will weave back and forth between them as 
needed.


Also nobody has said support on the existing system has ended. It is 
limited and there will be no new features but language like this may 
just cause a stampede!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch OTA-14 released

2017-01-08 Thread Gareth France


On 08/01/17 18:35, AquarisBird wrote:


First of all, thanks for the great work. I really think the project is 
great and enjoy the phone. But then here the bad news, I'm struggling 
this annoying a bug so I can't use my phone (for work) on a safe 
matter. The bug appeared in OTA 12 I think, should be fixed in OTA 13, 
but this was not the case for my phone.


Pairing my phone BQ Aquaris E4.5 (OTA-14) with the Parrot CK3100 is no 
problem. Syncing is ok. But, when calling with the phone the Parrot 
display a music note sign on the screen, with a crossed line through 
the note (slash forward). I don't hear anything through the speaker of 
the Parrot. I can toggle the sound to the speaker of my phone, so I 
can hear the one I'm calling.


Alse, after trying a couple of times to pair (different modes chosen 
from the Parrot) I noticed my phone is acting weard. Phone ringing, 
but no sound or vibration. Picking up the phonecall people can not 
here me. Rebooting and not coupling the phone help and doesn't give me 
those problems.


So there is something weard with the bluetooth I believe.

I hope this is the way to report my bug?

AquarisBird



Issues with bluetooth are already well documented. Unfortunately they 
are unlikely to get addressed soon as ubuntu touch as we know it will be 
retired in favour of the snap based system. We should see much greater 
momentum after the switch.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ackkk! The world is ending!!!

2017-01-06 Thread Gareth France



On 06/01/17 22:44, Stephen wrote:
And if anyone bothered to watch the video, you'd hear how QUALCOMM 
(anyone know who they are?), are gearing to build chips with Ubuntu.


Does anyone understand what that would mean?

Also, about a docking station ... well gee, what could that be used for?

Do your homework, stay informed and stop writing rubbish!



Can we please diffuse the tone of this thread now please? We should be 
positively supporting the project, not imploding into a free for all fight!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ackkk! The world is ending!!!

2017-01-06 Thread Gareth France


On 06/01/17 20:02, Mitchell Reese wrote:
And people wonder why Canonical was silent? (apart from Christmas and 
New Year break) EVERY tidbit of information here is picked up by 
social media, 'the press', and everyone else to extrapolate this 
project... How tedious...


I run multiple theatre projects, community and professional, with 
various funding partners. Not announceing before checking with them is 
common courtesy. Sometimes that means keeping thnigs under my hat.


According to omg ubuntu - their click-bait headline points to the 
Ubuntu Touch project dying. What a clusterfuck...


Mitchell



I know, makes me feel sorry I brought it up!

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Leaving UT

2017-01-06 Thread gareth . france

On 2017-01-06 12:30, Krzysztof T wrote:

Hi,

There was some time that I had obsession about UT. I bought MX4 and
worked really hard by translating various apps, reporting bugs. I
understand that now bigger case is moving to Snaps - that's okey.
But will this (moving to snaps) solve our problem with lack of some
technology (I'm not big tech guy, so sorry imprecise words) to get
apps working in background (in example working GPS navi app while
using another appps)? I think no - if I good understand, Snaps are
simple way how to pack software, not how it works itself.
Will this (moving to snaps) solve [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] or other
important bugs (some of them are 2+ years old) ? I don't think so.

I bought MX4 to help getting UT better.

What I understand for now:

We (Canonical) released some phones, we all worked to get some apps
into it, fix some bugs.
No, we're slowing this part (mainly stops it) to get first Snaps. Next
we'll maybe back to improve system itself.
I had question - why? Why some few years ago, when UT started, why
then was not in the first place to develop and implement Snaps and
then focus on phone development?!

Small tip: What would help? I think this ([6]) in example - not
everyone works on Ubuntu.

For now, I'm giving up with UT. Maybe in the future I will come back.
Despite my grief, I wish UT only good things.


I think you may be missing the point a little. Moving to snaps won't 
solve those issues. However wouldn't it be a waste of time to burn loads 
more energy fixing those issues only for this code to be ditched in 
favour of the new code which may well have some of the same issues?


Makes more sense to slack off on the phones now, plough ahead with the 
big changes then all speed ahead on phones again once snaps are in. I 
really do think this change could have been communicated better but I'm 
certain it's no reason to lose faith.


Gareth

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread gareth . france
We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and 
testing work but this is not intended for >"production" use at this 
point.


Pat


I take that to read 'this is technically possible but not currently 
developed', which is encouraging. Thank you.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread gareth . france

I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with

the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use
Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu.

Thanks all for your patience
Pat



Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the 
current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone happy. 
If we understand what is going on then nobody begins to worry about the 
silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except having to find the 
money to replace my phone!!


Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't 
support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet?


Thanks
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Leaving this list

2017-01-04 Thread gareth . france

On 2017-01-04 17:19, Sigvard Lyth wrote:

Today I have had enough. 

People are way too negative with their feedback on this list, on what
is, after all, a work in progress. 

People seem to have completely forgot that that buying an ubuntu phone
clearly states it being just that. 

And the supposition and speculation that people present here, on pure
frustration, is too much for me. I wish those people were banned. 

Anyway,  it used to be a good list for info, but is now just a daily
puke pile. Good bye, and hope things improve. 


I'm sorry to see you go. Essentially you are venting the same 
frustration here as the rest of us. Everyone is behind UT but the 
mailing list seems to have lost momentum recently. THAT is what the 
frustration is about. Not the product itself.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-03 Thread Gareth France


On 03/01/17 20:13, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Before thinking in OTA15, you should flash your device to a known good
state. Have you mounted it to write?

Why do you think, that OTA15 was canceled.

matthias
Thanks guys, I have discovered the notes I made last time I had to flash 
it thankfully. It's going through now. As for known good state these 
sort of issues begin to crop up monthly. The OTA always kicked my phone 
back into line.


I suggest OTA15 isn't happening because any attempt anyone has made to 
ask when it is coming has been deflected. There is no mention of it on 
launchpad and people just keep referring to big changes ahead and it 
being pointless investing time in a system that is being retired shortly.


If it is happening someone please provide a timescale or at least 
confirmation. Not being given any information at all leads to great 
frustration.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-03 Thread Gareth France
I have posted about my issue here but got absolutely no reply at all! My 
phone is currently beyond useless. I had noticed previously that my 
phone used to play up when an OTA was due, issues would plague me 
throughout the final days of testing and get rectified during the update 
itself. Now that someone has decided seemingly that we're not having an 
OTA15 without telling us I'm left with a terminally ill phone and nobody 
seems to be responding in here any more.


So currently when I phone someone the phone app locks up. I can't enable 
speaker phone and crucially I can't even put the phone down. When I'm 
done calling I need to reboot. If someone calls me, same thing, however 
when they put the phone down I am able to force quit the phone app.


I've also had issues connecting my bluetooth headset up, it kept 
disconnecting for no reason. When I chose to forget it I then couldn't 
re-pair it, it took several attempts.



So, can somebody PLEASE give us a clear indication, will there be an OTA 
15? When is that likely to happen?


Failing this can someone please remind me once again how I reflash my 
phone? (BQ E4.5)



Thanks

Gareth


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[Ubuntu-phone] Bad behaviour M10 and E4.5

2016-12-30 Thread gareth . france
In the last 24 hours I have been plagued by issues which have rendered 
my tablet unusable and very nearly made me late for work.


Firstly I set my tablet on mute as I was using it at work. Later in the 
day I loaded a web page which played a video. The sound was on even 
though mute was still active.


Trying to hold a conversation on Facebook via the default web browser is 
just impossible. Tap on the conversation and the keyboard appears, start 
typing and the keyboard disappears. Tap again to open the keyboard and 
instead a link is selected or another profile so a web page is loaded 
instead. Several taps later the keyboard loads and I can type. Making a 
mistake and tapping backspace again closes the keyboard. This was 
sending me insane by the end of the conversation!


On a side note my alarm didn't go off this morning. The phone appeared 
frozen and refused to wake. I had to force reboot it in the end.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Canonical's Ubuntu Crickets

2016-12-29 Thread gareth . france
Ok, I think the problem here is that we have ticked along for at least 
the last year with regular updates on what is landing. Although I often 
don't take it in it is nice to see this regular reminder that things are 
happening. Ever since I first got my handset there has been a very clear 
statement about when the next OTA is due and what will be in it. On the 
launchpad page there has been and OTAxx tag with bugs marked against it 
to track this. Now there are no daily updates and this tag is not 
present at the moment.


So I can understand the confusion, it isn't that people expect constant 
updates so much as the fact that this familiar pattern of updates has 
broken down with no warning or explaination. I have to confess I was 
wondering too what is happening with the next OTA.


I have no doubt this is the Christmas season and probably people working 
on some very big changes so I'm not worried. I do think sarcastic posts 
like that which started this discussion are a bit distructive though 
sowing bad sentiment.


One gripe I do have is that this group seems to have all but ground to a 
halt recently. Where is the Ubuntu touch buzz now? Where is the 
discussion taking place? Any suggestions?


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[Ubuntu-phone] Sky routers don't work

2016-12-21 Thread Gareth France
Our ageing sky router has begun to go senile so they have sent us a modern 
replacement. I have set it up but my M10 can't access web pages on it. I 
changed the wireless settings to no avail. Email works fine and to begin 
with Facebook loaded but all the pictures were blank, now nothing.


Today I have been tinkering with my firefox settings and changed the proxy 
settings from 'use system proxy' to 'none' and now it works perfectly in 
Firefox. So, how can I make my tablet work properly again? What have Sky 
done?



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Compatible bluetooth headsets

2016-12-21 Thread gareth . france
I never did get any suggestions for other bluetooth headsets that work. 
That is rather disappointing as I thought we all chipped in to make the 
Ubuntu experience better for each other.


However I went ahead and ordered an Advanced Accessories EVO-01 
Bluetooth Headset off Amazon and it seems to work just fine. Now if only 
we knew why my car stereo was so different


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Virtualization of UP development

2016-12-21 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-12-20 06:08, Roman Shchekin wrote:

Hi all

I agree! Now I have SDK installed and it works. But some time ago I
got my SDK broken because of LXD. Something went wrong and I was
unable to figure out what exactly.
I think that UP development must be simplified in some ways
(virtualization, easier installation, etc).

BR, 
Roman.



The SDK has NEVER worked for me. I have never found anyone willing to 
tell me what I need to do and thus I never develop anything for the 
phone. It does feel like this group is much quieter than it once was, 
and it frustrates me that I can't get involved.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Compatible bluetooth headsets

2016-12-17 Thread Gareth France



On 17/12/16 20:25, Tom Rausner wrote:

Hi Gareth.

On lørdag den 17. december 2016 19.16.46 CET, Gareth France 
 wrote:


by cable will no longer cut it. So can anybody recommend a bluetooth 
headset that will work reliably with the BQ handsets?



I have a BQ Aquaris E5, my car is a Nissan Note and my headset is a 
Maxell model: MHX-BT 1000.


I've never had any problems connecting the phone to the car or the 
headset.


Tom


My stereo is a Sony after market unit but I am aware there are quite a 
few people having issues with bluetooth on various devices. 
Unfortunately I can't find your headset on any of the big brand 
marketplaces.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Compatible bluetooth headsets

2016-12-17 Thread Gareth France
I have been waiting since the BQ e4.5 was first released to use it with 
my car stereo but it has never connected to it properly, either the 
other person can't hear me, or I can't hear them, or the call drops out 
part way through.


I'm about to invest in a bike so connecting my phone to the car stereo 
by cable will no longer cut it. So can anybody recommend a bluetooth 
headset that will work reliably with the BQ handsets?



Thanks


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ota14 lock screen

2016-12-08 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-12-08 05:20, Roman Shchekin wrote:

 Who on earth chose the new lock screen?
+100500



It is actually starting to drive me nuts now. Every time I go to unlock 
my phone I get a moment of surprise because the lock screen has changed 
(not the background), but I can't for the life of me remember how it 
used to look so I've got no idea why it gets to me.


Going to take a little while to get used to I think!

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ota14 lock screen

2016-12-07 Thread Gareth France
On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:43:34 GMT, Michał Sawicz 
 wrote:

W dniu 07.12.2016 o 20:07, Gareth France pisze:

Who on earth chose the new lock screen? Am I the only person who
preferred the old one? The color scheme doesn't seem to work as well now.


It's just the default wallpaper, feel free to change it to whatever you
like.



Ooh! Didn't think if that. Thanks!


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[Ubuntu-phone] Ota14 lock screen

2016-12-07 Thread Gareth France
Who on earth chose the new lock screen? Am I the only person who preferred 
the old one? The color scheme doesn't seem to work as well now.



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[Ubuntu-phone] Lima

2016-12-04 Thread Gareth France

https://support.meetlima.com/en/articles/205371405-What-devices-does-Lima-support

I have been looking at this private cloud storage device, does anyone think 
it could be made to work with touch? The software is available in deb 
format.



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Calendar bug

2016-10-09 Thread Gareth France

Confirmed on E4.5.


On 09/10/16 15:20, Kamouni Mohamed wrote:

Hello
I would like to report a bug about the calendar, i have a meizu pro 5 
with ota 13, there is 2 days of 30th october 2016 see the screenshot 
below.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Unable to reflash, please help!

2016-09-29 Thread Gareth France



On 29/09/16 22:28, knitzsche wrote:

I believe that is a bogus (and misleading) error message.

So you can probably wait for it to complete normally and reboot.

Cheers,
Kyle 
Afraid not, the phone sits on the splash screen for a while and then 
boots back into broken ubuntu.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Unable to reflash, please help!

2016-09-29 Thread Gareth France
I am really struggling at the moment, following on from all the strange 
faults my phone has developed I tried to reflash it but it won't work. 
The command I am using is:


*ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en 
--recovery-image recovery-krillin.img*


the recovery-krillin.img file is present in the current directory but 
the terminal just ends with this:


2016/09/29 22:07:46 Rebooting into recovery to flash
Failed to enter Recovery

Can anyone help me?


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[Ubuntu-phone] Multiple strange behaviours E4.5

2016-09-29 Thread Gareth France
This afternoon I was replying to texts on my phone, 2 or 3 replies in 
the keyboard began retracting after each letter was typed and took 
several attempts to get it to re-appear. Sometimes when I typed a letter 
a backspace was also typed first, making it impossible to complete a 
sentence. This would happen both through the indicator reply and in the 
messaging app. Persist in trying to type and eventually the phone would 
have a 'mini reboot' where the splash screen is displayed but then when 
I get back into the interface the reply to the text is still present.


I rebooted to cure it which worked for one reply. I then phoned someone 
and the dialer app made the call but the name and phone number were not 
displayed, it was a blank screen with the red put down button. But it 
was not possible to put the phone down, I had to reboot. Since this it 
seems to be a 50/50 gamble as to whether it works or not.


The indicators have changed too. I have a keyboard layout indicator that 
wasn't there before and the network one is now called 
'indicator-network. It is blank, no option at all and going into 
settings and wifi the only option present is previous networks. My phone 
currently is not auto-connecting to wifi and I have no way of manually 
doing so.


Has anyone else on OTA13 experienced this?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth died after OTA13

2016-09-23 Thread Gareth France
Today my bluetooth is turned on, connects to my phone and I can hear it. 
Unfortunately nobody seems to want to answer at the moment so I have no 
idea if they can hear me!



On 23/09/16 19:12, Marcin Xc wrote:
On my phone it works as it used to: it does not. And the list of 
devices is still full of radios I tried to connect with thou they are 
not even in range.




*From: * Gareth France ;
*To: * Francisco Pina Martins ; 
;

*Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth died after OTA13
*Sent: * Wed, Sep 21, 2016 8:50:26 PM


On 21/09/16 21:45, Francisco Pina Martins wrote:
> For me, OTA13 has finally fixed the HFT pairing issues I was having.
>
> There are still issues with audio routing, but I'm sure we'll get to
> those in due time (hopefully soon, so I can use the phone while
> driving again).
>

Actually I hard wired a lead into the car, from the stereo to the
windscreen. I just plug my phone in every time. It's a pain in the @ss
but it will have to do.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth died after OTA13

2016-09-21 Thread Gareth France


On 21/09/16 21:45, Francisco Pina Martins wrote:

For me, OTA13 has finally fixed the HFT pairing issues I was having.

There are still issues with audio routing, but I'm sure we'll get to 
those in due time (hopefully soon, so I can use the phone while 
driving again).




Actually I hard wired a lead into the car, from the stereo to the 
windscreen. I just plug my phone in every time. It's a pain in the @ss 
but it will have to do.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth died after OTA13

2016-09-21 Thread gareth . france
I Have been eagerly awaiting actually being able to use bluetooth since 
the day the BQ 4.5 was released, every month there's a new issue of some 
sort or another.


Having upgraded today I have discovered that it is turned off, I turn it 
on through the top taskbar but nothing happens. So I check bluetooth in 
settings and it is turned off, so I turn it on. Quit settings, go back 
in and now it is turned off again, but the top taskbar still shows it is 
turned on.


Nobody else seems to be talking about this so is it just me?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No updates - still on OTA11

2016-08-01 Thread gareth . france
Mine didn't work while I was connecting my tablet via my E4.5 hotspot 
but did when I eventually got home and used proper wifi.



On 2016-08-01 12:02, Peter Bittner wrote:

Interesting, the update popped up after I had switched the "Download
automatically" option to "Always" (instead of "WiFi only"), and
manually checked for updated again twice. Is this related to roaming,
by mistake or by design, maybe?

Seems strange anyway. To me it's more probable that someone at
Canonical headquarters has silently touched a switch to enable the
update finally for everyone!  ;-)

Have a happy summer everyone!   B-)
Peter


2016-08-01 9:54 GMT+02:00 Julia Palandri:
Updates are delivered gradually to all users within a span of 24 
hours, but

at this point all should have received the updates.

If you didn't, did you ever make your system writeable? This can make 
you

not receive system updates.

Best,

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Peter Bittner  
wrote:


I'm on bq Aquaris E5, and I get app updates but no platform updates,
i.e. no OTA-12 either.

Does the delivery of OTA-12 depend on geographical regions or
countries, maybe? Because I'm outside of my usual geographical region
atm.

Peter


2016-07-30 18:38 GMT+02:00  Gareth France:
> Is there some sort of block on OTA 12 for the M10 tablet? Mine isn't
> showing
> any updates.


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[Ubuntu-phone] No updates - still on OTA11

2016-07-30 Thread gareth . france
Is there some sort of block on OTA 12 for the M10 tablet? Mine isn't 
showing any updates.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Omg nexus 4

2016-07-30 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-07-30 17:13, francisco mulas caracuel wrote:

After this ota,power off delay more time and drain battery 0%.
This system is very useless.
I return android for mi bq and nexus.
ITS MY FAULT!!
P.D.
The people purchase this phone for this?
this system depends android forever.
Ubuntu touch is ubuntu?no
We can apps desktop ubuntu?no
News phones is ubuntu?no
All previous android system.
No android=no UT
Best regards,for system useless.
The people,2 years after,system useless


If this system offends you so much, why on Earth are you still here?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The eternal promises

2016-07-27 Thread gareth . france

I love ubuntu touch and i appreciate your work,but it hopeless,you
understand me to my?
Buy the e4.5 and was left without a aethercast.
Buy after the nexus 4 and there is not libertine apps,that i say you to
that?
Sorry if i offended anyone,really.


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I'm sorry to say that you do not speak as someone who loves Ubuntu Touch 
and you certainly do not appreciate anything. What you are witnessing 
here is the magic of open source! This is a product not yet finished, 
this is a peek at the first iphone before anybody ever knew what one 
was, this is a chance to use Android 0.1, the one only Google employees 
knew about. To compare Ubuntu Touch to any commercial product is just 
plain crazy.


Canonical and BQ said this is for developers, this is for devoted users 
who just can't wait for the finished product. They didn't say buy this, 
it WILL suit you, and for good reason. Anyone using this today is doing 
so because they want to contribute to the building of this ecosystem, or 
because they are curious and want to see magic being built from the 
ground up.


You have posted on here many times and each and every single time it has 
been blunt, rude, pushy and totally unconstructive. If you want to help 
build the finished product you so desire get coding, or report bugs, or 
do testing. Help with translations or simply educate people as to what 
this is and where it is going.


If you don't want to do that then simply shut up and enjoy the ride, or 
leave. Ubuntu and indeed Linux is all about choice, but whatever you 
choose to do, please don't do something which impacts negatively on 
others.


Thank you.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ 4.5 bluetooth issues

2016-07-19 Thread gareth . france
Yes, it was working perfectly fine for me up to OTA-9. Now, with Bluez 
5

I'm facing mainly those two issue that render handsfree useless for me.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1563768
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1603150


Neither of those issues affect me but it does surprise me that this 
hasn't been given a fairly high priority. Nobody seems to be working on 
this at all. Bluetooth is a major showstopper for me and I've been 
botching a workaround for over a year now.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ 4.5 bluetooth issues

2016-07-19 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-07-19 12:20, Michael Zanetti wrote:

On 19.07.2016 12:58, Francisco Pina Martins wrote:

I don't think it's a hardware issue. My BQ E4.5 Ubuntu Edition was
working flawlessly with the in-car bluetooth system up until OTA-9, 
and

only stopped working after being updated to OTA-10 (when the migration
to Bluez5 happened).


Same here. It's definitely software and yes, the BlueZ 5 migration
regressed it.


Really? My E4.5 has never connected to my bluetooth correctly. They 
symptoms change periodically but it has never been possible to have a 
conversation on it. I propose we have more than one issue at play, and 
one of them appears to also be present on the Android version.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ 4.5 bluetooth issues

2016-07-19 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-07-19 09:54, Geoffrey Van Wiele wrote:

Gareth,

Could you have a look and see if its similar to the following bug?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1578176

Thanks!

Geoffrey



Very similar, however we can hear the other person but they can't hear 
us. The phone doesn't lock up after we hang up and suffers no ill 
effects.


Remember this is an android handset. The symptoms are identical to how 
my own E4.5 behaves and I doubt that is a coincidence.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ 4.5 bluetooth issues

2016-07-19 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-07-18 20:52, gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk wrote:

Recently I bought my partner the android equivilant of the E4.5. I
posted on here that it would be interesting to compare. Today I
connected it to my car bluetooth and thought nothing more of it. The
first call she received we could hear them, but they could not hear
us, just like my phone!

So is the issue really with ubuntu? Or with the handset?


Well I had expected some sort of reply. Not a whisper mind you. Very 
odd.


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[Ubuntu-phone] BQ 4.5 bluetooth issues

2016-07-18 Thread gareth . france
Recently I bought my partner the android equivilant of the E4.5. I 
posted on here that it would be interesting to compare. Today I 
connected it to my car bluetooth and thought nothing more of it. The 
first call she received we could hear them, but they could not hear us, 
just like my phone!


So is the issue really with ubuntu? Or with the handset?

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[Ubuntu-phone] How to install SDK?

2016-07-07 Thread Gareth France
I've reinstalled my pc from scratch after a hard drive upgrade. To get 
myself up and running for development what should I do? I had the SDK 
installed before but it never really worked. So should I install through 
the software centre or should I use some sort of PPA? Also which 
framework should I be using these days?


Thanks

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Issues with phone interface

2016-07-07 Thread Gareth France



On 07/07/16 19:02, Guillaume F wrote:

Le 07/07/2016 15:24, Pat McGowan a écrit :

While I am not a big fan of the switch to the white box there have
been no other complaints I know of thus far.


I'm not a big fan of the switch either. Like Andrea said it's harder to
distinguish. And if it's harder to distinguish, it's mainly because
there's already so much white everywhere else in the UI.

I understand that it makes for a cleaner interface and that it's good
looking, but you can't have an all-white UI, can you?

I guess this was made to bring more consistency, since the phone call
notification was already white. It's quite visible on the the darker
lockscreen, but less so if the phone is unlocked. But why not change the
color depending on the background? Didn't the notifications have this
feature previously?


Guillaume


Spot on! Thanks

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[Ubuntu-phone] Issues with phone interface

2016-07-07 Thread gareth . france
I seem to be having issues recently using my phone. Over the last week 
or two there have been a number of occasions where I went to answer the 
phone and my aim was slightly off. Instead of grabbing the slider and 
moving it to answer I grabbed the entire phone call notification box and 
attempted to drag it off the screen. Today I succeeded in doing just 
that and it just vanished, leaving me with no way to answer the call! 
Why is this notification even draggable?


While I'm on the subject after every call or text I get a pop up 
notification with my balance. Am I the only person who is struggling 
with a white notification on top of the white text messaging screen? I 
keep not seeing it and getting baffled by why my phone is ignoring me.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] An android confession

2016-06-29 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-06-29 13:25, Jouni Helminen wrote:

Waze on Android on the otherhand has has a makeover and is looking
fantastic. It knew where I was right away with no delay whatsoever,
plotted the route in a flash and all the things I need to be paying
attention to such as speed cameras are nicely highlighted on screen.
It now even tells you how long a traffic jam is and how far through
it you are. It handles getting disconnected from the internet
seamlessly and all you have to worry about is the driving.

I would be intrigued to know how this free app is funded. I'm a firm
believer though that anything that can be done, can be done better
open source. This certainly sets the bar. Does anyone know if there
are any outstanding gps issues either with touch or with unav itself
right now?


Waze was bought by Google for $1.3 billion. They crowdsource the
traffic data, and it works quite well because they have so many users.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waze


I had a skeaking suspicion that it would be funded by the stealing of 
private data. Isn't everything these days?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Common user makes a fool when displaying your operating system.

2016-06-29 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-06-29 12:27, francisco mulas caracuel wrote:

scopes continue sending us to the browser. We have spent our money to
buy phones in which you promised us convergence aethercast , etc .
Reality:
My bq E4.5 without aethercast , or convervencia , why? Gives you the
same. My Nexus 4, which is better than bq , slow, slow , why? Gives
you the same. Ubuntu for everyone? That funny. The scopes , the pillar
of ubuntu touch ,like , if you see something you send to the browser.
You have the problem of manufacturers, but now we dejais unsupported .
When the snap packages?
Respect to those who have purchased a phone with your s.o Arreglad
from the scopes , the aethercast and snap parciales.
You do not realize , but we have a phone , that for anything we send
to the browser. We have serious applications or games, we have
nothing.
To use a browser serves any phone constantly .


Dispite this looking like some sort of wind up I shall grace it with a 
considered response. Take a moment to consider Google, Samsung and 
Apple. Think about the amount of money they have and the size of their 
development staff. Now think of Canonical. No 2 bit enterprise for sure 
but their resources are nowhere near on par with these giants. It 
constantly amazes me and baffles me that a phone developed in such a 
manner even boots after such a short period of development!


Recall, or do some research of you cannot, the Sinclair QL. A 
groundbreaking computer which nobody bought because no software was 
available. Which nobody developed for because nobody was buying it. 
Ubuntu has avoided this trap, even though the big brands aren't here 
just yet there is software. In this day web based software is perfectly 
valid and acceptible and if this is not enough the wonder of open source 
allows YOU to step up to the plate and build whatever is missing.


Most importantly Canonical understands their own limitations and are not 
trying to exceed them. They havn't called Ubuntu Touch an Apple killer 
or anything such, they haven't claimed the masses need this. Nobody has 
called it production ready. So, if this is not for you then you have 
only yourself to blame. Linux has freedom of choice at it's heart so 
choose something else, Apple, Android, Windows, whatever floats your 
boat, get stuck in and make those changes that are needed or sit tight 
and be happy with the knowledge that the system is evolving. But 
whatever you do, don't moan about it to the people who are getting along 
just fine.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] An android confession

2016-06-29 Thread gareth . france

On 2016-06-29 10:38, Sam Bull wrote:

My experience has been quite different recently. Upon opening unav, I
have a reasonable position in a couple of seconds, and seem to have an
accurate GPS position within around 10 seconds.

In most cases, the route is found in a couple of seconds. I've had it
get stuck on searching for a route a few times, though most times this
is when there is no network connection, something unav should probably
detect and give some better feedback on.

Last week, I actually used this alongside my friend who was using
Google Maps on a Nexus 6P, and I was getting a faster and more reliable
location detection (using unav on Nexus 4). The Nexus 6P also had a
network connection, while my Nexus 4 was offline (my friend was
roaming, I was not).

So, overall, the location detection is brilliant in my experience over
the last couple of months. Unav is also quite nice, but could still do
with a few small improvements to improve it's reliability.


If this is the case it narrows down to either the reliability of the UK 
3G network or an issue with my handset. I do keep meaning to try using 
unav on my tablet using my phone as a hotspot. I'll give that a go next 
chance I get and see what happens.


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[Ubuntu-phone] An android confession

2016-06-29 Thread gareth . france
I have a confession to make, and I'm not proud of it. Yesterday I turned 
away from my devices and used an Android phone to navigate to my 
destination, and it felt good!


I have no idea if it's just my handset of unav in general but recently 
it seems to be physically impossible to set a route to anywhere. Most of 
the time it just sits there telling you it is searching for a route 
before eventually giving up. After many open, set route, close, set 
route, reboot, open, set route cycles I may get it to work but it seems 
to get bored and give up after a while, just hanging and not tracking my 
position on the map or giving directions.


Waze on Android on the otherhand has has a makeover and is looking 
fantastic. It knew where I was right away with no delay whatsoever, 
plotted the route in a flash and all the things I need to be paying 
attention to such as speed cameras are nicely highlighted on screen. It 
now even tells you how long a traffic jam is and how far through it you 
are. It handles getting disconnected from the internet seamlessly and 
all you have to worry about is the driving.


I would be intrigued to know how this free app is funded. I'm a firm 
believer though that anything that can be done, can be done better open 
source. This certainly sets the bar. Does anyone know if there are any 
outstanding gps issues either with touch or with unav itself right now?


The journey I was making was to a group programming event in London. 
Both my phone and tablet turned some heads there and it was nice to be 
able to show them off to people who actually appreciate the workmanship.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

2016-06-22 Thread Gareth France



On 22/06/16 21:10, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:



W dniu środa, 22 czerwca 2016 mailto:gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk>> napisał(a):
 > On 22/06/16 20:24, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
 >>
 >> Unfortunately, osmscout isn't maintained anymore. It sad, because it
 >> could be much better than univ (offline maps and routing, streets name
 >> rotating with map). Maybe someone want to fix GUI and random crashes it
 >> this app?
 >
 > Really? How come it's been abandoned so soon??
 >
You can look at https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu
Last changes half year ago...


Very sad. I wish I had the skills to be able to take over. However it 
all baffles me right now.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

2016-06-22 Thread gareth . france

On 22/06/16 20:24, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:

Unfortunately, osmscout isn't maintained anymore. It sad, because it
could be much better than univ (offline maps and routing, streets name
rotating with map). Maybe someone want to fix GUI and random crashes it
this app?


Really? How come it's been abandoned so soon??

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[Ubuntu-phone] A week using both Android and Ubuntu on BQ

2016-06-22 Thread gareth . france
I have now had the time to spend a little time using both my E4.5 and my 
girlfriend's new Android equivalent. I thought I would bring up a couple 
of differences that spring to mind.


Mainly mobile internet. It crawls, it is patchy, it is virtually 
unusable on my e4.5. I put this down to my network and never thought 
anything of it until I realized the android version doesn't suffer like 
this. Is there anything currently affecting 3g/2g access in touch?


Also satnav, possibly because of the previous issue I'm finding the 
default satnav refuses to accept a route, it sits there for a while and 
then says it can't plot the route. Try it a few times and it will work. 
It will track you on the map but it will never get as far as giving you 
directions. Currently using the satnav is a frustrating dance of load, 
set route, close, open, set route, reboot, repeat until it works.


OsmScout simply crashes at random. Of course on android I can simply 
download Waze. It seems that either there is something wrong with my sim 
card, my replacement phone or with touch.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Where can I change list settings?

2016-06-20 Thread Gareth France
I'm fed up with gmail swallowing half my messages from the list so I want
to change the subscription to my own domain. Where should I go to change my
email address? I can't remember where I joined the list from now!
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fame via Ubuntu and intriguing design choices

2016-06-16 Thread Gareth France

On 16/06/16 18:49, mark wrote:
Completely off-topic of course, but Holmes' Law shows that, for a 
right-handed person (i.e. 90% of the population) the cursor falls to 
the right hand side of the desktop most of the time. I would have 
thought the docker and the windows buttons would therefore be closer 
for the vast majority of people, if they were on the right hand side.


m 

Don't say that! (I'm left handed)

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[Ubuntu-phone] Fame via Ubuntu and intriguing design choices

2016-06-16 Thread Gareth France
Firstly let me just say what a strange sensation it is to start the day by
reading up on the latest news via omgubuntu only to find I am reading about
myself! Keep up the good work Joey, I’d be lost without you.

My big question today is if we are aiming at a unified computing experience
then why on earth does the launcher reverse in desktop mode? In
phone/tablet mode the dash button is at the bottom, in desktop it is at the
top.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-15 Thread Gareth France

On 15/06/16 09:57, Femma Ashraf wrote:
What's the name of your app and do you have a github link to your app? 
I'll do my best to chase this up for you.
Also, you can still enter the competition if you have made the app 
convergent :-)


That does not matter at this time. Things have moved on and the app will 
now be developed where it is. I may come back to submitting it on a 
later date. It was desktop only. As I said I dont' have a clue where to 
start on the phone at all.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-15 Thread Gareth France

On 15/06/16 08:20, Femma Ashraf wrote:

What in particular baffles you (so we can determine how best to help)?
I have the SDK, it is set up (sort of) ready to go, but I've had 
problems with getting the emulators to work correctly. Everything from 
that point up to and including getting the app published in the software 
centre.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-15 Thread Gareth France

On 15/06/16 08:26, Nathan Haines wrote:


Once you have a click file, getting it published in the Ubuntu Store 
is as easy as uploading it on developer.ubuntu.com.  So focus on the 
app creation--publishing is dead simple.
Really? Then why my PAT testing software take over 6 months in review in 
the developer portal? I gave up waiting and/or trying to contact anyone 
in the end and just put it on github. I paid someone to package it for 
me as well so I've been well and truly stuffed!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] And now for something not entirely different

2016-06-15 Thread Gareth France

On 15/06/16 06:41, Mitchell Reese wrote:
How did you get a new device? My phone has packed it in after a recent 
trip to Borneo - can't find a bq for sale anywhere! Thoughts?


Mitchell 
An offer of a second hand phone in pristine condition from a member of 
this list. I got lucky. It is a shame they aren't more freely available.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-14 Thread Gareth France

On 14/06/16 16:50, Femma Ashraf wrote:
Great idea Daniel, make it convergent and win yourselves a prize: 
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/06/01/still-and-rigid-or-adaptable-tell-us-about-your-app/ 


Oh how I wish I were able to create apps. The entire process baffles me 
and nobody seems able to shed any light on it. This has to be on my to 
do list soon.


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[Ubuntu-phone] And now for something not entirely different

2016-06-14 Thread Gareth France
Thanks to the amazing service provided by BQ and also the users of this 
list I found myself with a replacement for my broken phone and a 
discount code for the BQ store. I opted to buy a phone to replace that 
unbearable android monstrosity my partner has. Knowing she would never 
get along with Ubuntu as it's different to what she's used to I opted 
for the Android model and thought nothing of it as it's the same phone.


I was mildly surprised by what turned up in the post. There is no doubt 
it is the same phone as mine yet it is quite different. The first thing 
I noted is that the little pin for removing the sim cards only has one 
spike on it, the one for opening the SD card slot is missing. So I 
looked at the SD slot and was greeted by blank plastic, no cover there 
at all! 2 sim slots just the same but the power button is in the wrong 
place. Where the power button should be is what looks like another sim 
slot, but this time for housing the SD card. The notification light is 
in the wrong place and blinks in an entirely different manner to mine.


All in all it kind of felt like returning home to find someone had 
rearranged all the furniture! It will be very interesting to see how 
this new handset compares to mine from a usability standpoint (crashing, 
hanging, overall speed, etc).


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-14 Thread Gareth France

On 14/06/16 17:55, Art wrote:
This is no different than google refusing to allow you to use their 
software unless you have a google accountor google refusing to let 
you download from the playstore unless you have a google account. Or, 
yahoo refusing to allow you access to their mailing lists unless you 
have a yahoo account. 
Sticking to that analogy I should be able to use the messaging because I 
have a facebook account. Restricting access to software only partially 
made available is very different. They really should be allowing 
developers to work with an api to provide access where it does not now 
exist.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-14 Thread Gareth France

On 14/06/16 10:02, Yarid Andrea Guglielmetti wrote:
Hi, i not like the decisions of Facebook but Fmessenger working for me 
on BQ E4.5. Bye
Excellent, but I have always avoided a dedicated messenger app, I never 
liked the idea of splitting a web page in two.


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[Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-14 Thread Gareth France
I just wanted to say thanks to the Facebook team for breaking the 
website for me. Where is the logic behind removing the ability to 
message people for anyone who doesn't have an apple or android device? 
Oh and the message asking me to download the app is just pouring salt 
into the wound by the way!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

2016-06-14 Thread Gareth France

On 14/06/16 08:43, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Despite of collecting data and other reasons, shouldn't this not already
reason enough for not using Facebook at all.

matthias
Agreed but the sad reality is that everyone uses facebook so unless you 
want to be isolated from them you have to as well. Vicious circle. And 
you can't say they don't matter, otherwise we wouldn't have an app 
installed as standard, they've got the world cornered so I guess that's 
why they can make these bad decisions with no thought for the little guy.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Playing videos with bluetooth - issues

2016-06-06 Thread Gareth France
Finally I discovered that the issue with not accepted video formats was 
resolved and I am now able to watch the tutorials for my uni course on 
my tablet. However bizarrely when I connect my bluetooth headphones the 
video continues to play perfectly but the audio becomes very broken and 
plays at half speed. Turning off the bluetooth resumes normal playback.


Anyone else seeing this?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Playing videos with bluetooth - issues

2016-06-06 Thread Gareth France
Finally I discovered that the issue with not accepted video formats was 
resolved and I am now able to watch the tutorials for my uni course on 
my tablet. However bizarrely when I connect my bluetooth headphones the 
video continues to play perfectly but the audio becomes very broken and 
plays at half speed. Turning off the bluetooth resumes normal playback.


Anyone else seeing this?

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[Ubuntu-phone] Ongoing bluetooth woes

2016-06-02 Thread Gareth France
For pretty much the entire life of the BQ 4.5 when connecting to my car
stereo by bluetooth I could hear the other person but they could not hear
me. I recall reading somewhere that there would be a number of bluetooth
fixes in OTA 11 so I was very much looking forward to it, however now I
have it I can't hear anything over bluetooth. No idea if the other person
can hear me.

This has always been a key feature for me, crucial. I have been putting up
with it because I understand the pace of development and how far it has to
go and have been using a cable instead. This is a feature which really does
need to get straightened out, it is a bit embarassing to have to admit the
phone I rave about doesn't do bluetooth.

How is it working for the rest of you? Does anyone have any news on how the
long term goal on this is progressing?

Cheers
Gareth
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[Ubuntu-phone] He called my bluff!

2016-05-22 Thread Gareth France
When I put in my pre-order for the M10 tablet I very publicly announced 
that I will leave my laptop at home and the tablet will be my main 
machine from now on, knowing full well there was a fair chance it would 
just be a gadgetty fad quickly resigned to the top drawer of my desk. I 
had nothing to lose, after all if it didn't work out I just go back to 
my laptop.


I am now writing this on 'what is left' of my £500 laptop after my 
toddler in a fit of temper decided to drag all 17" of it off the kitchen 
worktop and let it smash onto the floor! Although technically working I 
personally would say it requires two hinges in order to be truly 
portable. Carrying around a small wall to rest the screen against will 
be one hell of a pain!##


So I guess I'm 100% committed to the convergence cause, for better or 
for worse.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Removing email accounts in Dekko

2016-05-19 Thread Gareth France
Does anyone know how to delete an email account in Dekko? I can't seem to
figure it out.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where to buy a phone?

2016-05-05 Thread Gareth France

On 05/05/16 21:19, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Wrong conclusion. Here a lot of people know a lot of things, but a few
or even less can help you on such a private affair between you and BQ.
I beg to differ. I asked where the phones are on sale, the web 
addresses. Several people have very helpfully responded. I know links go 
down sometimes, the become out of date. Any member here may happen to 
know the correct address for purchasing the e4.5. One person has sent me 
a valid link, unfortunately in German.


I'd politely ask you to adjust your attitude as biting my head off for 
asking a perfectly valid question is hardly inviting!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where to buy a phone?

2016-05-05 Thread Gareth France

On 05/05/16 21:03, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Do you really think, that all the mailing-list can help on this
issue? I can't.

Oh I'm sorry, in future I'll just presume that you all know nothing.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where to buy a phone?

2016-05-05 Thread Gareth France

On 05/05/16 20:10, Nekhelesh Ramananthan wrote:
Wouldn't it make sense to check with BQ about that then? They are 
offering you a discount. Check with them if they have a ubuntu phone 
that you can use the discount on.
Have you seen the time? By the time I have finished work and checked my 
email there is nobody in the office to check with.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where to buy a phone?

2016-05-05 Thread Gareth France

On 05/05/16 20:04, Torsten Franz wrote:

Hi,

only the e5 is out of stock. The e 4.5 is available at 
https://store-de.bq.com/de/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5

The english version of that page won't load. It produces a 404 error.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Where to buy a phone?

2016-05-05 Thread Gareth France

On 05/05/16 19:30, Rodney Dawes wrote:

https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition-e5/

Just went to store.bq.com and it was under the Smartphones dropdown.
Correct, however as I stated in my post they are out of stock. I have 
just been told they can't fix my phone, they have offered me a discount 
but no phones on which to apply it!


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[Ubuntu-phone] Where to buy a phone?

2016-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Unfortunately BQ have diagnosed my phone's condition as terminal. They 
have been kind enough to offer me a discount on a replacement but their 
website doesn't seem keen to offer Ubuntu phones up and the link for the 
e4.5 on the ubuntu website is dead, the e5 is out of stock.


So does anyone have a link for a BQ phone running ubuntu I CAN buy?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] One week with the M10

2016-05-02 Thread Gareth France

On 02/05/16 09:20, Michael Zanetti wrote:

Hi Gareth,

mind filing those issues on launchpad?


Will do.



Does that keyboard behave the same when you connect it to your laptop?
Good question, I haven't used it for more than the briefest test on my 
laptop so I'll give it a go.




Alt+F4 should actually be implemented... I wonder why it doesn't work 
for you then.



I'll try this again in a number of different scenarios. Perhaps it's 
just legacy apps or something. We'll see.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] One week with the M10

2016-05-02 Thread Gareth France

On 02/05/16 08:50, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

That should work in the stock web browser (if it doesn’t it’s a bug,
please file one). I assume you’re seeing this in firefox, right? I
don’t know whether that would work for legacy apps running in a
container under XMir, but I think firefox needs to learn about the
powerd D-Bus API to inhibit screen blanking.
Indeed it was Firefox and I don't expect miracles. I know it will take a 
little time to nail the issues down.


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[Ubuntu-phone] One week with the M10

2016-04-30 Thread Gareth France
And what a frustrating week it has been. I think I've discovered the 
rough edges and I'm not ready to let go of my laptop just yet. So here's 
a list of issues I've been dealing with:


1. Using my bluetooth keyboard with trackpad is a real pain as whenever 
I go to move the mouse cursor it immediately switches between several 
running apps, usually settling back on the scopes (my guess is that this 
is simply the price you pay for being tight and only spending £10 on a 
keyboard)


2. The setting to turn off the screen after x minutes says 'don't worry, 
this won't turn off when you are watching a video', however this 
apparently does not apply to youtube!


3. As we all now know youtube videos lose video/audio sync pretty much 
right away. Mine also kept briefly pausing and once in fullscreen 
(loaded in firefox) it apparently wasn't possible to back out to normal 
again.


4. On my keyboard at least escape does not work and neither does ALT + F4.

5. In desktop mode using the keyboard to delete emails it does not 
select the next email automatically, leaving you to click, delete, 
click, delete, click delete.


6. Facebook (firefox) can't back out of images displayed full screen.

Not a bad list really. None of it seems too difficult to deal with, but 
for now I'll be keeping one hand on my laptop.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Were is my spreadsheet?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
This morning I created a spreadsheet on my tablet and saved it in 
documents, all good. This evening I created another and when saving it 
only gave the the options of saving it in home or desktop, no other 
folders displayed. Now when I go to locate the file it isn't there in 
file manager or when browsing from my laptop, however when I look in 
libre office there it is! Anyone else experienced semi invisible files?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
https://bugs.launchpad.net/tagger/+bug/1575552

On 27 April 2016 at 16:06, Olivier Tilloy 
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Gareth France 
> wrote:
> > I have now transferred a file directly onto the tablet and that will
> read,
> > this suggests that trying to read them directly off a screen is confusing
> > the app. I have done the same with the codes I need to read and it
> doesn't
> > work. Inverted the colour, doesn't work. Other people here using android
> or
> > ios can read them just fine. I have attached one of these codes to the
> bug.
>
> Bug link please?
>
>
> > On 27 April 2016 at 11:26, Gareth France 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm on 10.1. I'm having to scan codes displayed on my desktop screen for
> >> work. I've been looking everywhere but I haven't yet managed to find
> one off
> >> screen to try. They're everywhere until you need one!
> >>
> >> On 27 April 2016 at 11:23, Michael Zanetti <
> michael.zane...@canonical.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Did you upgrade to OTA-10 or are you still on the initial release
> >>> (OTA-9.5)? There were some issues in the initial release which
> prevented
> >>> some things like screenshotting (and with that prevented tagger from
> >>> reading the image programmatically).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 27.04.2016 12:02, Gareth France wrote:
> >>> > Any ideas why mine might not be?
> >>> >
> >>> > On 27 April 2016 at 10:51, Olivier Tilloy <
> olivier.til...@canonical.com
> >>> > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Gareth France
> >>> > mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>> > > I have raised another bug as I have discovered my inability to
> >>> > decode QRs is
> >>> > > a separate thing. I have tried using example codes found
> online,
> >>> > big and
> >>> > > clear. I have tried taking a photo, cropping and using that
> >>> > photo. Nothing
> >>> > > decodes! On my phone it was effectively instant. I did randomly
> >>> > decode the
> >>> > > letter V from god only knows what when I wasn't even pointing
> it
> >>> > at a code
> >>> > > yesterday. Can anyone else get this to work on their M10?
> >>> >
> >>> >     Yes, it’s working fine for me here on a FHD M10, scanning the QR
> >>> > code
> >>> > on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code is almost instant.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > On 27 April 2016 at 10:06, Michael Zanetti
> >>> >  >>> > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 27.04.2016 10 :06, Olivier Tilloy
> wrote:
> >>> > >> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti
> >>> > >> >  >>> > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> On 27.04.2016 09 :37, Gareth France
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >> >>> This is on the M10, on my E4.5 tagger works beatifully.
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> On 27 April 2016 at 08:34, Olivier Tilloy
> >>> > >> >>>  >>> > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>
> >>> > >> >>> <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com
> >>> > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>>> wrote:
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gareth France
> >>> > >> >>>  >>> > <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>
> >>> > <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >> >>> > It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is
> >>> > displayed
> >>> &g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
I have now transferred a file directly onto the tablet and that will read,
this suggests that trying to read them directly off a screen is confusing
the app. I have done the same with the codes I need to read and it doesn't
work. Inverted the colour, doesn't work. Other people here using android or
ios can read them just fine. I have attached one of these codes to the bug.
Could you please take a look for me?

On 27 April 2016 at 11:26, Gareth France  wrote:

> I'm on 10.1. I'm having to scan codes displayed on my desktop screen for
> work. I've been looking everywhere but I haven't yet managed to find one
> off screen to try. They're everywhere until you need one!
>
> On 27 April 2016 at 11:23, Michael Zanetti 
> wrote:
>
>> Did you upgrade to OTA-10 or are you still on the initial release
>> (OTA-9.5)? There were some issues in the initial release which prevented
>> some things like screenshotting (and with that prevented tagger from
>> reading the image programmatically).
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27.04.2016 12:02, Gareth France wrote:
>> > Any ideas why mine might not be?
>> >
>> > On 27 April 2016 at 10:51, Olivier Tilloy > > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Gareth France
>> > mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > > I have raised another bug as I have discovered my inability to
>> decode QRs is
>> > > a separate thing. I have tried using example codes found online,
>> big and
>> > > clear. I have tried taking a photo, cropping and using that
>> photo. Nothing
>> > > decodes! On my phone it was effectively instant. I did randomly
>> decode the
>> > > letter V from god only knows what when I wasn't even pointing it
>> at a code
>> > > yesterday. Can anyone else get this to work on their M10?
>> >
>> > Yes, it’s working fine for me here on a FHD M10, scanning the QR
>> code
>> > on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code is almost instant.
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 27 April 2016 at 10:06, Michael Zanetti
>> > > michael.zane...@canonical.com>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 27.04.2016 10 :06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
>> > >> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti
>> > >> > > > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On 27.04.2016 09 :37, Gareth France
>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> This is on the M10, on my E4.5 tagger works beatifully.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On 27 April 2016 at 08:34, Olivier Tilloy
>> > >> >>> > > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>
>> > >> >>> <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com
>> > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gareth France
>> > >> >>> mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>>>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>> > It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is
>> > displayed
>> > >> >>> the
>> > >> >>> wrong way
>> > >> >>> > up making it near impossible to centre on what you want
>> > to scan
>> > >> >>> as
>> > >> >>> it always
>> > >> >>> > moves the opposite way and messes with your mind!
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> > I haven't been able to scan a single code yet, it just
>> > doesn't
>> > >> >>> pick them up.
>> > >> >>> > It was very quck on my phone so this surprised me. Is
>> this
>> > >> >>> known?
>> > >> >>> I'm not
>> > >> >>> > sure wher to look for a bug.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> You can look for existing b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
I'm on 10.1. I'm having to scan codes displayed on my desktop screen for
work. I've been looking everywhere but I haven't yet managed to find one
off screen to try. They're everywhere until you need one!

On 27 April 2016 at 11:23, Michael Zanetti 
wrote:

> Did you upgrade to OTA-10 or are you still on the initial release
> (OTA-9.5)? There were some issues in the initial release which prevented
> some things like screenshotting (and with that prevented tagger from
> reading the image programmatically).
>
>
>
> On 27.04.2016 12:02, Gareth France wrote:
> > Any ideas why mine might not be?
> >
> > On 27 April 2016 at 10:51, Olivier Tilloy  > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Gareth France
> > mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > I have raised another bug as I have discovered my inability to
> decode QRs is
> > > a separate thing. I have tried using example codes found online,
> big and
> > > clear. I have tried taking a photo, cropping and using that photo.
> Nothing
> > > decodes! On my phone it was effectively instant. I did randomly
> decode the
> > > letter V from god only knows what when I wasn't even pointing it
> at a code
> > > yesterday. Can anyone else get this to work on their M10?
> >
> > Yes, it’s working fine for me here on a FHD M10, scanning the QR code
> > on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code is almost instant.
> >
> >
> > > On 27 April 2016 at 10:06, Michael Zanetti
> > mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com
> >>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 27.04.2016 10 :06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti
> > >> >  > <mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 27.04.2016 09 :37, Gareth France
> wrote:
> > >> >>> This is on the M10, on my E4.5 tagger works beatifully.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On 27 April 2016 at 08:34, Olivier Tilloy
> > >> >>>  > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>
> > >> >>> <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com
> > <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gareth France
> > >> >>> mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> > >> >>> > It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is
> > displayed
> > >> >>> the
> > >> >>> wrong way
> > >> >>> > up making it near impossible to centre on what you want
> > to scan
> > >> >>> as
> > >> >>> it always
> > >> >>> > moves the opposite way and messes with your mind!
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > I haven't been able to scan a single code yet, it just
> > doesn't
> > >> >>> pick them up.
> > >> >>> > It was very quck on my phone so this surprised me. Is
> this
> > >> >>> known?
> > >> >>> I'm not
> > >> >>> > sure wher to look for a bug.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You can look for existing bugs, and report a new one,
> here:
> > >> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tagger.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On which device are you seeing this btw? I’ve tested the
> > E4.5 and
> > >> >>> the
> > >> >>> MX4, and I’m not observing anything wrong.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Actually this happens on all devices. Currently apps cannot
> > distinguish
> > >> >> between Landscape and InvertedLandscape (or Portrait and
> > >> >> InvertedPortrait). I can not fix that in the app until the API
> > in the
> > >> >> platform is fixed.
> > >> >
> > >> > OK, I’m seeing it now.
> > >> > The obvious workaround is to hold the device in
> portrait/landscape
> > >> > instead of inverted portrait/inverted landscape, right?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Yes. Although I really don't like that workaround :) However, the
> fix
> > >> for this is not straight forward. It's something to be fixed in
> > Qt and
> > >> also requires to rework a "hack" that got introduced for the
> > camera-app
> > >> in qtubuntu.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
Any ideas why mine might not be?

On 27 April 2016 at 10:51, Olivier Tilloy 
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Gareth France 
> wrote:
> > I have raised another bug as I have discovered my inability to decode
> QRs is
> > a separate thing. I have tried using example codes found online, big and
> > clear. I have tried taking a photo, cropping and using that photo.
> Nothing
> > decodes! On my phone it was effectively instant. I did randomly decode
> the
> > letter V from god only knows what when I wasn't even pointing it at a
> code
> > yesterday. Can anyone else get this to work on their M10?
>
> Yes, it’s working fine for me here on a FHD M10, scanning the QR code
> on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code is almost instant.
>
>
> > On 27 April 2016 at 10:06, Michael Zanetti <
> michael.zane...@canonical.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 27.04.2016 10:06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 27.04.2016 09:37, Gareth France wrote:
> >> >>> This is on the M10, on my E4.5 tagger works beatifully.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 27 April 2016 at 08:34, Olivier Tilloy
> >> >>>  >> >>> <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gareth France
> >> >>> mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> >>> > It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is displayed
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> wrong way
> >> >>> > up making it near impossible to centre on what you want to
> scan
> >> >>> as
> >> >>> it always
> >> >>> > moves the opposite way and messes with your mind!
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I haven't been able to scan a single code yet, it just doesn't
> >> >>> pick them up.
> >> >>> > It was very quck on my phone so this surprised me. Is this
> >> >>> known?
> >> >>> I'm not
> >> >>> > sure wher to look for a bug.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You can look for existing bugs, and report a new one, here:
> >> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tagger.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On which device are you seeing this btw? I’ve tested the E4.5
> and
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> MX4, and I’m not observing anything wrong.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually this happens on all devices. Currently apps cannot
> distinguish
> >> >> between Landscape and InvertedLandscape (or Portrait and
> >> >> InvertedPortrait). I can not fix that in the app until the API in the
> >> >> platform is fixed.
> >> >
> >> > OK, I’m seeing it now.
> >> > The obvious workaround is to hold the device in portrait/landscape
> >> > instead of inverted portrait/inverted landscape, right?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes. Although I really don't like that workaround :) However, the fix
> >> for this is not straight forward. It's something to be fixed in Qt and
> >> also requires to rework a "hack" that got introduced for the camera-app
> >> in qtubuntu.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
I have raised another bug as I have discovered my inability to decode QRs
is a separate thing. I have tried using example codes found online, big and
clear. I have tried taking a photo, cropping and using that photo. Nothing
decodes! On my phone it was effectively instant. I did randomly decode the
letter V from god only knows what when I wasn't even pointing it at a code
yesterday. Can anyone else get this to work on their M10?

On 27 April 2016 at 10:06, Michael Zanetti 
wrote:

>
>
> On 27.04.2016 10:06, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Michael Zanetti
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 27.04.2016 09:37, Gareth France wrote:
> >>> This is on the M10, on my E4.5 tagger works beatifully.
> >>>
> >>> On 27 April 2016 at 08:34, Olivier Tilloy <
> olivier.til...@canonical.com
> >>> <mailto:olivier.til...@canonical.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gareth France
> >>> mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> > It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is displayed the
> >>> wrong way
> >>> > up making it near impossible to centre on what you want to scan
> as
> >>> it always
> >>> > moves the opposite way and messes with your mind!
> >>> >
> >>> > I haven't been able to scan a single code yet, it just doesn't
> >>> pick them up.
> >>> > It was very quck on my phone so this surprised me. Is this known?
> >>> I'm not
> >>> > sure wher to look for a bug.
> >>>
> >>> You can look for existing bugs, and report a new one, here:
> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tagger.
> >>>
> >>> On which device are you seeing this btw? I’ve tested the E4.5 and
> the
> >>> MX4, and I’m not observing anything wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually this happens on all devices. Currently apps cannot distinguish
> >> between Landscape and InvertedLandscape (or Portrait and
> >> InvertedPortrait). I can not fix that in the app until the API in the
> >> platform is fixed.
> >
> > OK, I’m seeing it now.
> > The obvious workaround is to hold the device in portrait/landscape
> > instead of inverted portrait/inverted landscape, right?
> >
>
> Yes. Although I really don't like that workaround :) However, the fix
> for this is not straight forward. It's something to be fixed in Qt and
> also requires to rework a "hack" that got introduced for the camera-app
> in qtubuntu.
>
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-27 Thread Gareth France
This is on the M10, on my E4.5 tagger works beatifully.

On 27 April 2016 at 08:34, Olivier Tilloy 
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM, Gareth France 
> wrote:
> > It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is displayed the wrong
> way
> > up making it near impossible to centre on what you want to scan as it
> always
> > moves the opposite way and messes with your mind!
> >
> > I haven't been able to scan a single code yet, it just doesn't pick them
> up.
> > It was very quck on my phone so this surprised me. Is this known? I'm not
> > sure wher to look for a bug.
>
> You can look for existing bugs, and report a new one, here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tagger.
>
> On which device are you seeing this btw? I’ve tested the E4.5 and the
> MX4, and I’m not observing anything wrong.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bugs, where to file?

2016-04-26 Thread Gareth France
I've never seen that before, thanks. Tagger isn't on there though.

On 26 April 2016 at 20:00, Joseph Liau  wrote:

>
>
> On 2016-04-26 12:54 PM, Gareth France wrote:
>
> I have stupidly left my laptop charger behind so tonight I'm sans laptop
> and so sans bookmarks. Since I haven't yet transferred anything over to my
> tablet I don't have access to the link I use for bug
> viewing/searching/adding. Could anyone help me out here?
>
> Cheers
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
> If you forget you can usually find it by searching "ubuntu avengers" ;)
>
>
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[Ubuntu-phone] Tagger not working?

2016-04-26 Thread Gareth France
It seem that tagger is behaving weird, the image is displayed the wrong way
up making it near impossible to centre on what you want to scan as it
always moves the opposite way and messes with your mind!

I haven't been able to scan a single code yet, it just doesn't pick them
up. It was very quck on my phone so this surprised me. Is this known? I'm
not sure wher to look for a bug.
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