[Ubuntu-phone] Unity 8 Community Fork

[Mitchell Reese]

Heads up there is active discussion about forking Unity 8, and 
continuing on as a community project. Go to https://unity8.org/ & 
https://unity.ubports.com/ for more info!


Mitchell

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

[Mitchell Reese]

I'm interested, willing to wait and see what happens.

M


On 06/04/17 04:34, Seth Ciango wrote:
This is liberating if we allow it to be. We're no longer forced to be 
Snap only while tethered to Unity8. We finally have control over the 
future of this project. The developer team needs to speak to the 
community on this.


  * Who is willing to stick around?
  * How difficult would a switch to GNOME be and how long would it take?
  * What current phones on the market could the community target based
upon their openness and compatible hardware/drivers?

We do not NEED Canonical or phone manufacturers. We truly thank them 
for getting us here. All the effort by the Ubuntu Phone team has been 
amazing and is greatly appreciated.


We all backed this phone project financially and with hours of our 
lives. Hours that we spent debugging, coding, helping someone else. 
Hours that we could have spent with friends and family or on other 
projects.


We chose to work on this phone because we believe in the ideal of 
freedom and choice. For us, the other two mobile OS's are not options. 
They represent tyranny and forced conformity.


I stand here committed to these ideals and the work that has been 
done. I am prepared to further invest my money and time into giving 
freedom and choice to those who want it.





/"they asked him what was the object of all this study applied to an 
art that would reach but very few. He replied: 'I am content with few, 
content with one, content with none at all.' ...Lay these words to 
heart, Lucilius, that you may scorn the pleasure which comes from the 
applause of the majority."/

/
/
/Lucius Annaeus Seneca, Letter VII/





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[Ubuntu-phone] Snap Update?

[Mitchell Reese]

So have been trying Android on my Pro 5 for the past couple days - 
arggghhh! Such a clunky system after Ubuntu Touch! Will flash back 
shortly - any update yet on snaps, and the next stage for where touch is 
going? I'm particularly interested in the M10 tablet - has the landing 
channel advanced to snaps yet? Would be great to have a timeframe from 
the devs about what's happening - or even an indication. Please - don't 
leave us with android as the only option!


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Data only in 3G

[Mitchell Reese]

You can do this easily by disabling data when someone calls - pull down 
the network drawer from top of device.


M


On 25/03/17 03:02, Cesar Herrera wrote:

In Lowi they say that I have to set 3G not 2G in order to avoid a problem
when someone makes a call. I'd like to know if there is a way of doing it.
Cesar





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[Ubuntu-phone] Future device support

[Mitchell Reese]

For the record, both the Meizu Pro 5 and the M10 tablet have 64 bit 
processors. Until we have more 'official' communication about which 
devices are supported going forward, a bit too soon to bail on the 
project. Looking forward to seeing what happens once the snap image 
comes to devices. Hopefully we'll hear more information soon.


Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu at MWC in Barcelona

[Mitchell Reese]

On 25/02/17 08:14, Rodney Dawes wrote:

On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 21:37 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Rodney, three questions about that:

The Fairphone 2 is, AFAIK, a 32-bit device. What will be shown at
MWC,
announced by Canonical, will this be snap or click based?

The FP2 port is like any other current device on UBports. It is the
same phone image base as all other current devices. There are currently
no snap based images for phones or tablets.


The word 'image' for the thing the Community could build, hides some
fundamental detail: At the moment we need some Android kernel parts
to
control the hardware of the mobile device. Do you really think that
there will be other images apart of the 'officially supported images'
in
the near future?

An "image" in the snap world will just be a thing which contains a set
of default installed snaps, which you flash on a device. This means at
least the ubuntu-core snap, a kernel snap (which may be kernel +
android container bits, i'm not sure if the specific there have been
ironed out), and the unity8, mir, pulseaudio, cups, etc… snaps. It will
not be the same as how system images work today.

I see no reason why there couldn't be unofficial ports, and soon after
we have the details worked out on how to build those images and flash
them to devices.


Why Canonical is not supporting the existing BQ E4.5 and E5 devices
with
a new officially supported image and why you leave us alone (apart of
security updates)
and without any visible upgrade path, not even to a new hardware?

This is not something I am able to answer.


For the record, I also find it a bit irritating at the lack of 
communication from Canonical - keeping the community in the loop seems a 
no brainer to me. That said, I think its too early to tell what will be 
supported, and what won't - how easy it will be, etc. I think this is 
mainly because no one really knows yet. Once the project is snapified 
we'll have more info, even if that involves working out ourselves what 
we can flash the system on.


I'm going to throw my ring into the hat and defend Canonical's lack of 
communication. Given how people have been jumping on /every/ bit of 
'official' media to point to the demise of this project, I can 
understand how Canonical might want to stay silent until they know what 
is going on. Personally, I think this sucks, but can understand the idea 
behind it. Lets wait and see what happens.


Mitchell






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sr Mitchell

[Mitchell Reese]

On Wednesday, 22 February 2017 11:51:18 AM AEDT, francisco mulas caracuel 
 wrote:
Mr. Mitchell, your you are publishing in g + that you have 
passed to android because the telephone does not work, are the 
false one.


Arrghhh - Troll!!! Not even bothering to read - someone please block this 
cretan.


M


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] That disgust

[Mitchell Reese]

On Wednesday, 22 February 2017 9:17:59 AM AEDT, francisco mulas caracuel 
 wrote:
In his day I said it to you, it is a shit that has never 
worked, they have cheated you, habeis bought telephones for 
nothing, use android that this if it works


Can someone please ban this person? Not useful on this list.

M



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Snap Images

[Mitchell Reese]

Great, thanks.

M

On Saturday, 28 January 2017 1:51:38 AM AEDT, Pat McGowan 
 wrote:

The current test image is still deb based and meant for enabling the
hardware with arm64 and systemd on xenial. Its not recommended and in fact
is really an interim step only.

Snaps will not run there or on the prior images, as snapd cannot be
supported there, at least not easily. We are sill working toward enabling a
snap core based image.

Pat

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Andreas Peer  wrote:


Hi,

I happened to give the "staging" channel a try few days ago. It is based
on xenial, but I couldn't tell if the apps where snap or click. It looks
nice, though, with some nice UI improvements & features. 
However, as it was
really unstable (it didn't even accept keyboard input in the 
address bar of

the web browser, or in the password settings dialog), I switched back to
rc-proposed, soon.

Regards,
Andreas

On 27.01.2017 13:05, Felipe De La Puente wrote:

Hi,

If I remember well, the channel on which the experiments for the M10 are
ongoing is named "staging". The "devel" channel was REALLY outdated last
time I tried (last image was from 2016-04 pre-xenial-release).

Let us know what you find and how it goes!

Best Regards,
Felipe.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:15 AM, nick luigi eusebio 
wrote:


Hi,

I believe there's a devel or devel-proposed channel for M10 
which already

has xenial. Not sure if it has snaps though.


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Are there any snap images for the M10 out yet - even unstable? Keen to
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[Ubuntu-phone] Snap Images

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Are there any snap images for the M10 out yet - even unstable? Keen to 
try it and see where development is going.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No Space Left on Device

[Mitchell Reese]

On 21/01/17 07:56, Stephen wrote:

I had the same issue when attempting to update my Pro 5 to OTA 14

I could not delete the folder contents, so kept getting device full 
message.


I fixed it by reflashing right from custom recovery - /TWRP 3.0 
m86.img (for Pro 5)


After installing TWRP, I booted into recovery and wiped cache and 
partitions etc as if installing for the first time (e.g. as if over 
the top of Android).


Then flashing the relevant Ubuntu Touch image - details I used are 
here 
https://www.smoose.nl/sites/default/files/bestanden/meizu_pro5_ubuntu.pdf


All now works fine.

It means though losing all current data, so you need to backup as 
needed prior to wiping partitions


Yay! All working now. Used the guide above (same one for initial 
flashing), but did NOT erase data partition. Did everything else, and 
have all my data back, as well as changing to rc-proposed.


Thanks everyone,

Mitchell

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No Space Left on Device

[Mitchell Reese]

On 21/01/17 10:35, Marius Gripsgård wrote:
Cleaning the device wont matter how much userdata you delete or move, 
cache is a different partition...

Here you can see the different partitions on for example Nexus 5 [0]

Try wiping cache as i said:

reboot to recovery
adb shell "rm -r /cache/recovery/*"

This gets rid of old update tarballs.

There is no personal data in cache, the /cache/recovery/ is only used 
for updates. The reason why it stores it there is so tempararly store 
it there while the device reboots to flash (note that recovery does 
the flashing [1], ubuntu-device-flash just pushes the updates to the 
device)


[0]: 
https://github.com/ubports/android_device_lge_hammerhead/blob/ubp-5.1/fstab.hammerhead
[1]: 
https://github.com/ubports/android_bootable_recovery/blob/ubp-5.1/system-image-upgrader



Tried this - device booted into 'Contact Support, your Device is 
fcked' screen. (sigh), Will back up properly next time before 
attempting this - yep, thanks for the advice by the way - normally I 
just copy essential files and am done with it.


Restoring now how I originally flashed the device from android.

M
2017-01-20 23:34 GMT+01:00 advocatux >:



El 20/01/17 a las 22:32, Stephen escribió:


Perhaps others can advise how to backup the relevant
directories (e.g. contacts, messages etc) to do a new install,
and copy back in the contacts etc. I don't know enough (yet)
about Ubuntu Touch, but wouldn't it be much the same as Ubuntu
desktop. Aka, reinstall ubuntu, keeping the home directory (or
backing up home directory), then all contact, messaging
information should be available again


Copy the whole /home/phablet and you'll have everything.

You can use something like Buds (by Alan Pope) [*] or use ADB.

Regards.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No Space Left on Device

[Mitchell Reese]

On 21/01/17 07:56, Stephen wrote:

I had the same issue when attempting to update my Pro 5 to OTA 14

I could not delete the folder contents, so kept getting device full 
message.


I fixed it by reflashing right from custom recovery - /TWRP 3.0 
m86.img (for Pro 5)


After installing TWRP, I booted into recovery and wiped cache and 
partitions etc as if installing for the first time (e.g. as if over 
the top of Android).


Then flashing the relevant Ubuntu Touch image - details I used are 
here 
https://www.smoose.nl/sites/default/files/bestanden/meizu_pro5_ubuntu.pdf


All now works fine.

It means though losing all current data, so you need to backup as 
needed prior to wiping partitions
Yep, have also done this in the past, but not keen this time. Would 
rather switch without losing data. Any other ideas?



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No Space Left on Device

[Mitchell Reese]

On Saturday, 21 January 2017 7:11:40 AM AEDT, Russ Bernhardt 
 wrote:

Is your device full? Might not have room for the temporary system image.


Doesn't seem to be - any other ideas?

M

On Jan 19, 2017 1:36 PM, "Mitchell Reese" 
 wrote:



I feel like this has been asked before, but can't find it...

Trying to switch the channel on my Meizu Mx5Pro to rc-proposed, and keep
getting this error:

2017/01/20 08:33:16 error pushing: failed to copy
'/home/mitchell/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-1ef0606e9d56
3fbdf3b6cb8fb391f2ca48b958619bbfe9f466f3fd51495cee4e.tar.xz' to
'/cache/recovery//ubuntu-1ef0606e9d563fbdf3b6cb8fb391f2ca48b
958619bbfe9f466f3fd51495cee4e.tar.xz': No space left on device

The command I'm running is: ubuntu-device-flash touch
--channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] No Space Left on Device

[Mitchell Reese]

I feel like this has been asked before, but can't find it...

Trying to switch the channel on my Meizu Mx5Pro to rc-proposed, and keep 
getting this error:


2017/01/20 08:33:16 error pushing: failed to copy 
'/home/mitchell/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-1ef0606e9d563fbdf3b6cb8fb391f2ca48b958619bbfe9f466f3fd51495cee4e.tar.xz' 
to 
'/cache/recovery//ubuntu-1ef0606e9d563fbdf3b6cb8fb391f2ca48b958619bbfe9f466f3fd51495cee4e.tar.xz': 
No space left on device


The command I'm running is: ubuntu-device-flash touch 
--channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en


What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can't access web resources/images from device

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On 18/01/17 19:47, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mitchell Reese
 wrote:

On 18/01/17 17:50, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Tom Rausner  wrote:

On tirsdag den 17. januar 2017 23.30.14 CET, Mitchell Reese
 wrote:

Very weird issue here, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it. I
started
having issues on the phone (MX5 Pro) and tablet (M10) with not being
able to
access certain websites... i.e. - www.inkl.com (which I use for news),
www.trello.com - both in the webapp I've created, and through the
standard
website. With both sites I'm getting 'Unable to load all resources'...
the
site doesn't display all the css, images look weird, etc. Have started
noticing this with other sites as well...

No issues working on my desktop Ubuntu setup today, however have had to
switch to my tablet for a few hours, and am tethered to my phone. No
proxies
setup - any ideas if this is a software issue with my devices, or
something
happening with my connection? Weird, as Trello was working flawlessly
with
both devices yesterday, and fine about 10 minutes ago from my desktop
machine.

Appreciate any troubleshooting help that can be offered.

Thanks,

Mitchell



+1
I've started to have the same problems with some sites but not others...

You’re most likely affected by https://launchpad.net/bugs/1656551.
This requires an oxide update, which we are preparing, and that will
go in OTA-15.


Great, thanks for that. Is there a silo I can install, rather than updating
to rc-proposed?

Yes, try 
https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2376/+packages


Also, what's the current plan with ota-15, with regards to
release. Will this still be the vivid overlay, or using the new snap based
system?

It should be based on the vivid overlay, although I don’t know what
will go into the OTA (it might be a subset of what’s currently in the
overlay to cherry-pick selected bug fixes).
Thanks for that. Is there a current eta for the switch to snaps? I ask 
because I have a number of apps in the store that need to be updated, 
however depending on timeline I'm wondering if I'm better placed putting 
my efforts into snaps.


Thanks,

Mitchell

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can't access web resources/images from device

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On 18/01/17 17:50, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Tom Rausner  wrote:

On tirsdag den 17. januar 2017 23.30.14 CET, Mitchell Reese
 wrote:

Very weird issue here, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it. I started
having issues on the phone (MX5 Pro) and tablet (M10) with not being able to
access certain websites... i.e. - www.inkl.com (which I use for news),
www.trello.com - both in the webapp I've created, and through the standard
website. With both sites I'm getting 'Unable to load all resources'... the
site doesn't display all the css, images look weird, etc. Have started
noticing this with other sites as well...

No issues working on my desktop Ubuntu setup today, however have had to
switch to my tablet for a few hours, and am tethered to my phone. No proxies
setup - any ideas if this is a software issue with my devices, or something
happening with my connection? Weird, as Trello was working flawlessly with
both devices yesterday, and fine about 10 minutes ago from my desktop
machine.

Appreciate any troubleshooting help that can be offered.

Thanks,

Mitchell



+1
I've started to have the same problems with some sites but not others...

You’re most likely affected by https://launchpad.net/bugs/1656551.
This requires an oxide update, which we are preparing, and that will
go in OTA-15.

Great, thanks for that. Is there a silo I can install, rather than 
updating to rc-proposed? Also, what's the current plan with ota-15, with 
regards to release. Will this still be the vivid overlay, or using the 
new snap based system?


Cheers,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can't access web resources/images from device

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On 18/01/17 09:30, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Very weird issue here, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it. I 
started having issues on the phone (MX5 Pro) and tablet (M10) with not 
being able to access certain websites... i.e. - www.inkl.com (which I 
use for news), www.trello.com - both in the webapp I've created, and 
through the standard website. With both sites I'm getting 'Unable to 
load all resources'... the site doesn't display all the css, images 
look weird, etc. Have started noticing this with other sites as well...


No issues working on my desktop Ubuntu setup today, however have had 
to switch to my tablet for a few hours, and am tethered to my phone. 
No proxies setup - any ideas if this is a software issue with my 
devices, or something happening with my connection? Weird, as Trello 
was working flawlessly with both devices yesterday, and fine about 10 
minutes ago from my desktop machine.


Appreciate any troubleshooting help that can be offered.

Thanks,

Mitchell


Ok, further troubleshooting - it's not anything to do with my internet 
connection. My desktop computer tethered to my phone works fine - issue 
is with both my tablet and Mx5pro running stable. Any idea how to fix 
this? Both webapps and browser are affected.


Thanks.

Mitchell

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[Ubuntu-phone] Can't access web resources/images from device

[Mitchell Reese]

Very weird issue here, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it. I started 
having issues on the phone (MX5 Pro) and tablet (M10) with not being able 
to access certain websites... i.e. - www.inkl.com (which I use for news), 
www.trello.com - both in the webapp I've created, and through the standard 
website. With both sites I'm getting 'Unable to load all resources'... the 
site doesn't display all the css, images look weird, etc. Have started 
noticing this with other sites as well...


No issues working on my desktop Ubuntu setup today, however have had to 
switch to my tablet for a few hours, and am tethered to my phone. No 
proxies setup - any ideas if this is a software issue with my devices, or 
something happening with my connection? Weird, as Trello was working 
flawlessly with both devices yesterday, and fine about 10 minutes ago from 
my desktop machine.


Appreciate any troubleshooting help that can be offered.

Thanks,

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Thanks for total awesomeness!

[Mitchell Reese]

To all the Ubuntu devs, particularly paid workers from Canonical & BQ 
staff - am absolutely loving my M10 fhd tablet. Have ditched my laptop, 
and now use a desktop machine as a workhorse, and my tablet for travel. 
Am off to a conference for the next week, and no thoughts of taking 
anything else.


Can't wait to see where the next few jumps ahead lead us - will 
definitely be flashing the next 'snap' version of Ubuntu if it hits this 
tablet, and contributing through making snaps for the store. Love the 
concept of snaps, and the dual security nature - snaps in the store by 
default with a 'restricted' profile - those same snaps installed through 
the command-line can be easily unconfined.


Thanks again, and keep up all the great work!

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Ackkk! The world is ending!!!

[Mitchell Reese]

And people wonder why Canonical was silent? (apart from Christmas and New 
Year break) EVERY tidbit of information here is picked up by social media, 
'the press', and everyone else to extrapolate this project... How 
tedious...


I run multiple theatre projects, community and professional, with various 
funding partners. Not announceing before checking with them is common 
courtesy. Sometimes that means keeping thnigs under my hat.


According to omg ubuntu - their click-bait headline points to the Ubuntu 
Touch project dying. What a clusterfuck...


Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

[Mitchell Reese]

Awesome - can't wait to test it on my M10! Does this mean current phone 
handsets aren't being planned to update to snaps? I.e. - will there be a 
future image for the MX5pro, or will we need to wait until the next lot 
of phones comes out?


Cheers,

Mitchell

On 06/01/17 02:48, Pat McGowan wrote:



On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, > wrote:


I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with

the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use
Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu.

Thanks all for your patience
Pat



Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the
current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone
happy. If we understand what is going on then nobody begins to
worry about the silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except
having to find the money to replace my phone!!

Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't
support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet?


We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and 
testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this point.


Pat


Thanks
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

[Mitchell Reese]

Awesome - can't wait to test it on my M10! Does this mean current phone 
handsets aren't being planned to update to snaps? I.e. - will there be a 
future image for the MX5pro, or will we need to wait until the next lot 
of phones comes out?


Cheers,

Mitchell

On 06/01/17 02:48, Pat McGowan wrote:



On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, > wrote:


I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with

the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use
Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu.

Thanks all for your patience
Pat



Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the
current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone
happy. If we understand what is going on then nobody begins to
worry about the silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except
having to find the money to replace my phone!!

Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't
support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet?


We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and 
testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this point.


Pat


Thanks
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

[Mitchell Reese]

Ackkk!!! The world isn't ending - the Ubuntu project lives on! Quick, 
someone find something for me to complain about... 


The icon colors! The icon colors aren't right...

Mitchell

On Thursday, 5 January 2017 7:53:18 AM AEDT, Alan Pope 
 wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your continued interest in the future direction of Ubuntu.
I did enjoy your 'crickets' email. It raised a smile, and I learned
something about Spanish culture too :)

On 4 January 2017 at 16:33, advocatux  wrote:
I don't think it's negativity. People are investing time, 
money, and passion
in this project and want to hear what is the official plan, 
from an official

source.



Not "the official plan, from an official source" but here's two pieces
of information:-

An email from Thibaut Rouffineau - Canonical's "Head of Devices
Marketing - Phone & IoT" went out to developers who had uploaded a
click to the store. The mail went out on the 16th December 2016.
Here's the content:-

"Hi there,

Thanks for your incredible work with Ubuntu Phone! You are the
cornerstone of what makes Ubuntu a great place to work and play. I
just wanted to clue you in on what is next for Ubuntu and Canonical.

Earlier this year we launched snaps [0]. This is a new packaging
format, derived from clicks, that works anywhere, irrespective of
device, distro, or developer. Snaps are simple, secure, and universal.
We are making them the new standard format for apps in Ubuntu across
cloud, desktop, IOT, and beyond. As an example Rocket.chat, NextCloud,
Jenkins, VLC, and others now take minutes to deploy.

As a developer, snaps allow you to target multiple platforms, come
with a store, and a built-in mechanism for beta software distribution,
making it simpler for you to get feedback before you release major
versions. We have also built out extensive documentation and tooling
for making snaps dead simple to understand and use.

Now, while we plan on ultimately retiring click packages and the store
in preference for snaps, rest assured, it is not going to happen
immediately. We are though encouraging our awesome community members
such as yourself to start preparing to move to snaps so we can make
this transition smooth.

Now, we want to make this as quick and easy as possible. Here is how
you can get started:

STEP 1: Head to snapcraft.io [1] where you can learn more about snaps
and find tools, tutorials, and tips to get started.

STEP 2: If you have any questions about getting started, feel free to
post to Ask Ubuntu, use our IRC channel, or join
snapcr...@lists.snapcraft.io

Also, you might want to give snaps a go [2] on Raspberry Pi with
Ubuntu Core. It is a load of fun to play with and shows the potential.
There is even a competition [3] for the best seasonal snap you can
join if you need additional motivation!

If you have any questions, concerns, or otherwise, let us know, and
thanks so much for your incredible work!

Thanks!
Thibaut Rouffineau
Head of Devices Marketing - Phone & IoT

[0] - 
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/06/14/universal-snap-packages-launch-on-multiple-linux-distros

[1] - https://snapcraft.io/
[2] - https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started
[3] - 
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/12/01/competition-build-a-seasonal-snap-on-your-raspberry-pi/

"
At a recent Ubuntu event in Germany, there was a presentation [4] from
Jane Silber, the Canonical CEO. As part of the presentation there was
a short Q&A which was unfortunately not published online, but was
recorded. During the Q&A someone asked about further devices beyond
the ones that already shipped. Jane gave some detail about why the
rumoured/expected Meizu device never appeared, and talked a little
about future plans. I don't have a recording, and wouldn't want to
mis-quote my boss, so won't.

The short version being that the focus for us all right now is moving
everything to work in the new snap world, and merging all the existing
project code to one converged platform.


I myself asked about it very positively on December, 15th. So no 'when
most sensible working people are on holidays' kind of excuse 
for the lack of

response.



Apologies for the delay in response. I was on vacation from 
December 15th...


Cheers,
Al.

[4] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShrpxtUB18





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

[Mitchell Reese]

Wow - really impressed at the immense amount of negativity lately on 
this list... over Christmas and New Years... when most sensible 
working people are on holidays...


Do you really expect a response, and movement, at this time?

Be happy - Ubuntu is an awesome project - there are lots of massive 
changes in the works with the transition to snaps. I'm sure there will 
be more information/an announcement soon.


M


On 04/01/17 11:09, Nikos Chatziioakimidis wrote:

I think that's the case too.


On Τρίτη, 3 Ιανουαρίου 2017 11:20:55 Μ.Μ. EET, Heroldich Robin 
 wrote:
I'm 99% sure that we won't have an OTA-15 update. There are a lot of 
evidences. There is no OTA-15 milestone on Launchpad, the new silos 
on Bileto are not builded for Vivid (our current base system) 
anymore, just for Xenial and Zesty. Updating to Xenial/Zesty from 
Vivid is not possible via an OTA update, because the difference is 
too big. so maybe a reflash could be a solution, but it wouldn't be 
an ideal one. There's no phone, which can run a Xenial base system. 
the QA testers use the tablet for every test. So I think Canonical is 
thinking about the future of the phone platform and it forbade its 
employees to talk about the future of the platform. So I think 
there's a very big chance that they will kill the platform completely 
(worst case scenerio) or they will start to sale new phones with 
Xenial base and Snaps in the future, but not this year. And it would 
mean the end of the support to all previous devices. I think this is 
the reason why they didn't start to sale the Meizu MX6 phones as well...



Feladó: Ubuntu-phone 
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meghatalmazó: Gareth France 

Elküldve: 2017. január 3. 21:20:47
Címzett: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Tárgy: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.


On 03/01/17 20:13, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Before thinking in OTA15, you should flash your device to a known good
state. Have you mounted it to write?

Why do you think, that OTA15 was canceled.

   matthias

Thanks guys, I have discovered the notes I made last time I had to flash
it thankfully. It's going through now. As for known good state these
sort of issues begin to crop up monthly. The OTA always kicked my phone
back into line.

I suggest OTA15 isn't happening because any attempt anyone has made to
ask when it is coming has been deflected. There is no mention of it on
launchpad and people just keep referring to big changes ahead and it
being pointless investing time in a system that is being retired 
shortly.


If it is happening someone please provide a timescale or at least
confirmation. Not being given any information at all leads to great
frustration.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left edge issues

[Mitchell Reese]

On 16/12/16 10:34, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Hi, my Meizu Pro 5 is no longer respnsive with the left edge swipe - 
need to press hard and often the gesture is not recognised. Seems 
fixed for 5 minutes after a reboot, so suspect its softwaee related. 
On ota 14 stable. Any ideas what I could try?


Thanks,

Mitchell


Trying to reflash, and keep getting the same error - no space left on 
device. Have deleted everything under /cache/recovery on the phone, but 
still the same error. How can I fix this?


Thanks.

Mitchell

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Hi, my Meizu Pro 5 is no longer respnsive with the left edge swipe - need 
to press hard and often the gesture is not recognised. Seems fixed for 5 
minutes after a reboot, so suspect its softwaee related. On ota 14 stable. 
Any ideas what I could try?


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Emergency button doesn't store local number

[Mitchell Reese]

On Saturday, 10 December 2016 8:31:02 AM AEDT, Cesar Herrera 
 wrote:
When I push the Emergency button the phone dialing screen 
appears but I have to mark the number.

In a critical situation it would be better if you had previously put it.

Perhaps it could be set for each user, or have a default for region? I.e., 
different areas have different numbers. M



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ota14 lock screen

[Mitchell Reese]

On Thursday, 8 December 2016 6:07:20 AM AEDT, Gareth France 
 wrote:
Who on earth chose the new lock screen? Am I the only person who preferred 
the old one? The color scheme doesn't seem to work as well now.




No issues with it here - loving the new release.

M


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Click store hangs

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks Mike, that fixed it.

M

On Saturday, 3 December 2016 9:35:00 AM AEDT, Mike Sheldon 
 wrote:

Hi Mitchell,

 This is a known bug with the latest RC image: http://pad.lv/1646758

 There's currently a fix for this in silo 2260

Cheers,
 Mike

On Sat, 2016-12-03 at 09:18 +1100, Mitchell Reese wrote:

On my M10 with rc-proposed, I no longer seem able to install apps
from the 
store. Apps seem to hang at the install - nothing happens. How can I 
troubleshoot this?


Have the 2050 silo installed for the new application drawer.

Thanks,

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On my M10 with rc-proposed, I no longer seem able to install apps from the 
store. Apps seem to hang at the install - nothing happens. How can I 
troubleshoot this?


Have the 2050 silo installed for the new application drawer.

Thanks,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] system-image-cli

[Mitchell Reese]

On 30/11/16 23:49, Michał Sawicz wrote:

W dniu 30.11.2016 o 12:30, Mitchell Reese pisze:

sudo system-image-cli -b 121

No luck. Process completes and reboots however I'm still on version 122.
I can only ssh into the device. What am I doing wrong?

 From `man system-image-cli`:


   -b BUILD, --build BUILD
 Override the current build number just this once

...

   -m MAXIMAGE, --maximage MAXIMAGE
 After the winning upgrade path is selected, remove all
 images with version numbers greater than the given
 one. If no images remain in the winning path, the
 device is considered up-to-date.

You want "--build 0 --maximage 121"

Didn't work for me. Seems not possible to roll back updates with the 
system-image-cli tool. As near as I can tell, this tool allows you to 
force an upgrade to a certain version that's greater than the current 
version. Connecting the device to my desktop and running this command 
however worked:


ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu 
--revision=121


Thanks,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] system-image-cli

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks tried:

sudo system-image-cli -b 121

No luck. Process completes and reboots however I'm still on version 122. I 
can only ssh into the device. What am I doing wrong?


M

On Wednesday, 30 November 2016 10:16:10 PM AEDT, Michael Zanetti 
 wrote:

-b 

On 30.11.2016 11:49, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Just wondering how to roll back to a previous image with 
system-image-cli?


Thanks,

M








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Just wondering how to roll back to a previous image with system-image-cli?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Firefox 50

[Mitchell Reese]

Awesome, thanks. M

On Sunday, 27 November 2016 8:49:49 PM AEDT, Reiner Klenk 
 wrote:

Here are some notes:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tXwqYrS84rtliSmwNKGe0l3JJ_aDqxGQoWPOYF4sKRs


On 27 November 2016 at 10:04, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:


Thanks. How did you get a xenial chroot happening? It fails each time I
try to build one in vivid. M


On Sunday, 27 November 2016 6:14:06 PM AEDT, Reiner Klenk <
debb1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have FF 50 running in a Xenial chroot. However, the 
widevine DRM plugin

is not present in armhf versions of FF. Also, there is no hardware
acceleration for FF running in Xmir and video playback performance in
general is very poor.

On 24 November 2016 at 11:01, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:

Has anyone worked out how to install the latest firefox on a M10 tablet?

Unfortunately the vivid archives for firefox are stuck on 44... love to
try
some drm content happening with Netflix! Chrome would also be a plus...

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Thanks. How did you get a xenial chroot happening? It fails each time I try 
to build one in vivid. M


On Sunday, 27 November 2016 6:14:06 PM AEDT, Reiner Klenk 
 wrote:

I have FF 50 running in a Xenial chroot. However, the widevine DRM plugin
is not present in armhf versions of FF. Also, there is no hardware
acceleration for FF running in Xmir and video playback performance in
general is very poor.

On 24 November 2016 at 11:01, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:


Has anyone worked out how to install the latest firefox on a M10 tablet?
Unfortunately the vivid archives for firefox are stuck on 
44... love to try

some drm content happening with Netflix! Chrome would also be a plus...

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[Ubuntu-phone] Firefox 50

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Has anyone worked out how to install the latest firefox on a M10 tablet? 
Unfortunately the vivid archives for firefox are stuck on 44... love to 
try some drm content happening with Netflix! Chrome would also be a plus...


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Unable to flash M10

[Mitchell Reese]

Wow! Thanks so much for that. Will try tonight. M

On Thursday, 24 November 2016 4:10:10 PM AEDT, Santosh Mahto 
 wrote:

Hi

Some days back I was reflashing on M10 and faced same issue. "waiting for
recovery"
This happens because in production devices adb is disabled.
Solution is that you need to provide recovery images together with
ubuntu-device-flash.
May be you need to give --bootstrap also.

Recovery image for particular M10 device can be downloaded from here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
and then you can use full command  with recovery image as (plz Adjust
command accoroding to device)
ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en
--bootstrap --recovery-image ./recovery.img

Regards
Santosh


On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:


Thanks. Tried the tool, doesn't work. Will try ssh, though from memory
setting it up without adb is a pain. Is there another adb 
enabled recovery

I can flash?


On Thursday, 24 November 2016 8:04:42 AM AEDT, Michael Zanetti <
michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote:


Hi,

I think you need an adb enabled recovery. You can try this, it might get
that for you and just works:
https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool

If it doesn't, another option is to ssh/adb into the device and use
system-image-cli to reflash. Check out --help, you'll want the --switch
option and I'd recommend to use -vv so that the tool prints something
instead of just appearing to do nothing for a while.


Hope this helps,
Michael

On 23.11.2016 21:37, Mitchell Reese wrote:


Hi, tried the Staging channel out of curiosity, and am now returning my
M10 back to re-proposed. Only now I'm unable to access adb through
enabling developer mode. Have rebooted to bootloader, and am trying to
reflash using fastboot. Everything seems to work, until the 
device boots

into the recovery, and my computer is no longer able to recognise it.
Just hangs at: "Waiting for device to enter recovery mode..."

Device is in recovery mode, but not recognised. Eventually the
ubuntu-device-flash tool times out. When I reboot my device I'm back
where I started.

How do I reflash back to rc-proposed?

Thanks,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Unable to flash M10

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks. Tried the tool, doesn't work. Will try ssh, though from memory 
setting it up without adb is a pain. Is there another adb enabled recovery 
I can flash?


On Thursday, 24 November 2016 8:04:42 AM AEDT, Michael Zanetti 
 wrote:

Hi,

I think you need an adb enabled recovery. You can try this, it might get
that for you and just works:
https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool

If it doesn't, another option is to ssh/adb into the device and use
system-image-cli to reflash. Check out --help, you'll want the --switch
option and I'd recommend to use -vv so that the tool prints something
instead of just appearing to do nothing for a while.


Hope this helps,
Michael

On 23.11.2016 21:37, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Hi, tried the Staging channel out of curiosity, and am now returning my
M10 back to re-proposed. Only now I'm unable to access adb through
enabling developer mode. Have rebooted to bootloader, and am trying to
reflash using fastboot. Everything seems to work, until the device boots
into the recovery, and my computer is no longer able to recognise it.
Just hangs at: "Waiting for device to enter recovery mode..."

Device is in recovery mode, but not recognised. Eventually the
ubuntu-device-flash tool times out. When I reboot my device I'm back
where I started.

How do I reflash back to rc-proposed?

Thanks,

Mitchell








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[Ubuntu-phone] Unable to flash M10

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi, tried the Staging channel out of curiosity, and am now returning my 
M10 back to re-proposed. Only now I'm unable to access adb through 
enabling developer mode. Have rebooted to bootloader, and am trying to 
reflash using fastboot. Everything seems to work, until the device boots 
into the recovery, and my computer is no longer able to recognise it. 
Just hangs at: "Waiting for device to enter recovery mode..."


Device is in recovery mode, but not recognised. Eventually the 
ubuntu-device-flash tool times out. When I reboot my device I'm back 
where I started.


How do I reflash back to rc-proposed?

Thanks,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] DON'T upgrade Meizu Pro5 to latest RC!

[Mitchell Reese]

Probably would have - but just wiped and reinstalled from scratch 
(sigh). Will setup ssh for future issues. On the up side, working 
beautifully now...


For the record, I hadn't made the system RW - very minimal messing 
around with this past install. Is it worth filing a bug? Not sure what 
I'd put it under...


M
On 12/11/16 09:10, Michael Zanetti wrote:

Happened to me too recently, although I think it was because I have a rw
filesystem and mess with it around quite a bit...

The thing that rescued me in the end was to ssh in over wifi (not adb -
it would always drop the connection after a few seconds) and then use
system-image-cli to flash it again cleanly.

Hope this helps.

Br,
Michael

On 11.11.2016 22:39, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Ouch... woke up this morning to the latest RC image on my Meizu Pro 5 -
excited, I of course installed it. After booting to the Ubuntu loading
image, my device seemed to turn off with a black screen. Seemed to be
off, however plugged into my computer I get various error messages -
can't mount mtp, etc. Have been trying to restore back to stable - not
quite there yet. Anyone else hit this?

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Ouch... woke up this morning to the latest RC image on my Meizu Pro 5 - 
excited, I of course installed it. After booting to the Ubuntu loading 
image, my device seemed to turn off with a black screen. Seemed to be 
off, however plugged into my computer I get various error messages - 
can't mount mtp, etc. Have been trying to restore back to stable - not 
quite there yet. Anyone else hit this?


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[Ubuntu-phone] Manual music scanning

[Mitchell Reese]

Is there a command to manually scan for music? I.e. - I have my music on 
an ext4 partition, located on the external sdcard of my M10, which I 
manually mount after boot. The system by default scans the 
/home/phablet/Music folder on startup, then stops scanning after that. 
I've been manually mounting my ext4 partition  from the sdcard over the 
/home/phablet/Music folder.


This works fine for Documents (i.e., have some 30gb of material mounted 
under /home/phablet/Documents), but not so well for Music. Is there any 
way for me to get my tablet to rescan for music?


Yep, I'm aware that the device "isn't supposed to work like that!", 
however because of all the restrictions and difficulties of accessing 
material from the sdcard, you have people like myself finding other options.


Cheers,

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Encryption

[Mitchell Reese]

HI, would like to get encryption happening on Ubuntu Personal. Am aware 
that Iphone's have encryption by default, and that encryption is pretty 
trivial to setup in Android - am also aware that setting up encryption 
with ecryptfs on the Ubuntu Desktop system is an easy option at install. 
What's the best way to go about this for Ubuntu Phones?


I.e. - I would like to use ecryptfs to encrypt everything under 
/home/phablet, to be decrypted at login. I'm comfortable making my 
device writable and potentially borking everything, and that an 
'official' solution might be much further down the track. Any ideas? Thanks.


Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Unity8 Desktop Session

[Mitchell Reese]

Still on 16.04 for my desktop - keen to try out the latest Unity8 
Desktop session for testing, which I have installed. Is there a way I 
can have the same experience for unity8 on 16.04, as if I updated to 16.10?


Thanks,

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Syncevolution upgrade? Broken owncloud carddav sync.

[Mitchell Reese]

I meant try deleting them from the owncloud server, then re-adding them 
there. Tedious, but it just might work... Just make sure you back up. 
This is one of those 'I don't really know what's wrong but you could try...'


Good luck.

M



On 17/09/16 20:22, Louis Holbrook wrote:

Ok,

That would be the
~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db right?

---

any ideas on how to export the "Personal" database to vcf with
syncevolution (what "config" to use)?


phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/tmp$ syncevolution --print-configs
Configured
servers:
owncloud =
/home/phablet/.config/syncevolution/default/peers/owncloud
target-con
fig@owncloud =
/home/phablet/.config/syncevolution/owncloud/peers/target-config


phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/tmp$ syncevolution --print-servers
Configured servers:
owncloud = /home/phablet/.config/syncevolution/default/peers/owncloud
target-config@owncloud = 
/home/phablet/.config/syncevolution/owncloud/peers/target-config




Also, syncevolution lists one of the "Contact_tmp3" entries as default,
while on my phone the main "Personal" one is hooked as default. It's
confusing!

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/tmp$ syncevolution --print-databases

[...]
Evolution Address Book = Evolution Contacts = evolution-contacts:
Contact_tmp2 (7cb15d10-f955-4ab1-a24f-1b4931bb295b)
Contact_tmp2 (6199c846-844f-4195-b4aa-394a1c0a30df)
Contact_tmp2 (50ad5411-f11c-4e4c-a7c6-1d2eec8b2763) 
Personal (system-address-book)



On Sat, 2016-09-17 at 19:50 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Not sure what the actual problem is, but I wonder if it's got
something
to do with those contact getting corrupted? Try deleting them,
syncing,
then re-adding them. Oh yeah, and back up first...

M


On 17/09/16 19:40, Louis Holbrook wrote:

I tried, with two contacts and it worked.

Then I exported from OwnCloud and reimported, same MULTIGET
problem.

Same when I exported from my local evolution install.

So, it looks like maybe there is some data detail in one or more of
the
entries I have in the contact list that either Syncevolution or
Owncloud can't handle. Funny thing is then, that it doesn't all
fail,
but all but 13 of them...

My first thought was non-ASCII letters, but I tried adding a
contact
with norwegian letters to the test db and it worked fine.

On further inspection, OwnCloud claims that the requests that are
failing contain merely the URL string "http:" (see log file below).
But
if that's Syncevolution not parsing the list right or OC getting
confused about the request is hard to tell.

Is there a packet sniffer utility available for the phone, by any
chance, or do I have to chroot etc to get one?

--

Another peculiar thing is that it complains about missing auth
headers,
but it does that even in requests that succeed. I don't know if
that
can have something to do with it. Have pasted that log file entry
too.



LOG - CONTACT NOT FOUND


Exception: {"Message":"HTTP\/1.1 404 Card not found",
"Exception":"Sabre\\DAV\\Exception\\NotFound",
"Code":0,
"Trace":"#0
[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(76): OCA\\Contacts\\CardDAV\\AddressBook-

getChild('http:')\n#1

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(71): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#2

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(71): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#3

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(71): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#4

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(71): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#5

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(71): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#6

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(71): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#7

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Tree.php(270): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getNodeForPath('addressbooks\/la...')\n#8

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Server.php(977): Sabre\\DAV\\Tree-

getMultipleNodes(Array)\n#9

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre
\/da
v\/lib\/CardDAV\/Plugin.php(321): Sabre\\DAV\\Server-

getPropertiesForMultiplePaths(Array, Array)\n#10

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Syncevolution upgrade? Broken owncloud carddav sync.

[Mitchell Reese]

b\/carddav\/addressbook.php",
"Line":211}

OCA\Contacts\Backend\Database::getContact, Not found, id: http:



===
LOG - BASIC AUTH HEADERS
===

Exception: {"Message":"HTTP\/1.1 401 No basic authentication headers
were
found","Exception":"Sabre\\DAV\\Exception\\NotAuthenticated","Code":0,"
Trace":"#0
[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/lib\/private\/conne
ctor\/sabre\/auth.php(157): Sabre\\DAV\\Auth\\Backend\\AbstractBasic-

authenticate(Object(Sabre\\DAV\\Server), 'ownCloud')\n#1

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/lib\/private\/conne
ctor\/sabre\/auth.php(127): OC\\Connector\\Sabre\\Auth-

auth(Object(Sabre\\DAV\\Server), 'ownCloud')\n#2

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Auth\/Plugin.php(118): OC\\Connector\\Sabre\\Auth-

authenticate(Object(Sabre\\DAV\\Server), 'ownCloud')\n#3 [internal

function]: Sabre\\DAV\\Auth\\Plugin-

beforeMethod(Object(Sabre\\HTTP\\Request),

Object(Sabre\\HTTP\\Response))\n#4
[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre\/ev
ent\/lib\/EventEmitterTrait.php(105): call_user_func_array(Array,
Array)\n#5
[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Server.php(456): Sabre\\Event\\EventEmitter-

emit('beforeMethod', Array)\n#6

[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rdparty\/sabre\/da
v\/lib\/DAV\/Server.php(254): Sabre\\DAV\\Server-

invokeMethod(Object(Sabre\\HTTP\\Request),

Object(Sabre\\HTTP\\Response))\n#7
[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/apps\/contacts\/app
info\/remote.php(84): Sabre\\DAV\\Server->exec()\n#8
[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/remote.php(137):
require_once('[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/...')\n#9
{main}","File":"[HOMEDIR_REMOVED_FOR_PARANOIA]\/public_html\/cloud\/3rd
party\/sabre\/dav\/lib\/DAV\/Auth\/Backend\/AbstractBasic.php","Line":7
0}

On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 20:08 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Try creating a seperate account with a couple new contacts and
syncing
that. I had something similar a year back, and the issue was that the
data
from a few contact was corrupt.

M

On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 5:19:58 PM AEST, Louis Holbrook
 wrote:

I'm using ownCube 8.2.5. It's a bit old, I know, but the people
maintaining the server opine that it's more stable than subsequent
upgrades. I don't know...

Anyway, I can't for sure say whether this happened due to an
upgrade on
the phone or the server, because I can't remember last  I used the
sync.

But since my laptop version of Evolution is still able to sync it
(although the sync on my laptop is configured in
the .local/share/evolution and not .local/share/syncevolution -
maybe
that also makes a difference, I'm not fully fluent here), and my
phone
suddenly is not, it indicates it has something to do with a phone
update
in the meantime - most likely the one in july.





On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 07:57 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Working fine for me with contact sync...

What owncloud version are you on?

Mitchell

On Tuesday, 13 September 2016 6:09:21 PM AEST, Louis Holbrook
 wrote:

Has there been an upgrade of syncevolution in one of the

recent updates?

(I can't find any mention in any of the commitlogs):

http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/

I haven't used my sync (against OwnCloud) in the last couple of
months
or so, but when I wanted to set it up again now, with the

same method as

before:



https://askubuntu.com/questions/616081/ubuntu-touch-add-contact-l
ist-and-calendars


... the contact sync only gets 13 of 500+ contacts, complaining
about
404 errors in "MULTIGET" requests.

 From the syncevolution changelog I get the impression that

this MULTIGET

feature is of newer date. Since the sync still works on my
Linux Mint
Evolution, I presume the change that broke the sync resides

on the phone

and not the OwnCloud instance.

Any ideas?











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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless Display

[Mitchell Reese]

Done.

Thanks, looking forward to a fix.

M

On Friday, 16 September 2016 11:09:43 PM AEST, Reiner Klenk 
 wrote:

On the M10 (rc), connected to Microsoft or Samsung dongle the latency is
more or less OK (Samsung 4k Monitor). The screen resolution is bad because
the native tablet resolution is transmitted as a 720p video stream which is
in turn upscaled by the dongle to 1080p. Pls. mark
https://bugs.launchpad.net/aethercast/+bug/1585534 as "affects me".

Regards,
Reiner

On 16 September 2016 at 08:34, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:


Hi, just got a Microsoft wifi display adapter today, and have been using
it with my Meizu Pro 5. Meh... would love to know what to expect. On my
Samsung monitor (21 inch) it is extremely laggy, with very poor screen
resolution. Is this similar to what other people have been experiencing?
Have been excited to try it in place of my PC, but currently 
there's no way

- even with desktop apps installed, everything is so slow - keyboard and
mouse. Am running the RC channel.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless Display

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks for that. Have tuned the mouse all the way up... better, but still 
far from usable as a daily driver. Screen resolution is still pretty awful. 
When compared to my Meerkat 76 over hdmi, it's a sloth. Perhaps not a fair 
comparison, but that's the kind of functionality needed for a desktop 
display. Will keep playing around with it.


Thanks for your feedback.

M

On Friday, 16 September 2016 9:14:23 PM AEST, Mathijs Veen 
 wrote:

v2 is *supposed* to have much less latency

v2 is not yet officialy supported in UT. I was advised to still go with v1.
Although I do remember someone from Canonical saying they were looking at
bringing UT to be v2 compatible. I f I am not mistaken it was Simon Fels.

On my Samsung monitor (21 inch) it is extremely laggy, with very poor
screen resolution

I have used it on my Samsung TV(not sure of the type right now) And I was
quite pleased with the performance and with good resolution. Not blinding
fast yet but not unworkable, although your standards may well be different
frm mine. I also remember Joey Sneddon doing his own review on OMG where he
was quite surprised by the responsiveness. So It appears to be
screen-related for some reason.
How is your performance with your external monitor when connected over
hdmi?

everything is so slow - keyboard and mouse

You are probably aware that you can tune mouse response to your needs in
system settings. I have found that when I dont do that and just use the
default mouse configuration, the mouse is unusably slow on an external
screen

cheers

Mathijs



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Pat Wall  wrote:


Hi Mitchell

As a matter of interest, are you using the v1 or v2 Microsoft Display
Adapter?  v2 is *supposed* to have much less latency (I'm thinking of
buying one myself for use with the M10). I have read that a lag can
potentially be reduced by setting the wi-fi router to broadcast on a
different channel as apparently there is a possibility of 
interference with

the display adapter's wireless connection.


Pat

On 16 September 2016 at 07:34, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:


Hi, just got a Microsoft wifi display adapter today, and have been using
it with my Meizu Pro 5. Meh... would love to know what to expect. On my
Samsung monitor (21 inch) it is extremely laggy, with very poor screen
resolution. Is this similar to what other people have been experiencing?
Have been excited to try it in place of my PC, but currently 
there's no way

- even with desktop apps installed, everything is so slow - keyboard and
mouse. Am running the RC channel.

Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless Display

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V2. H. Will try changing router frequency, thanks for the tip!

M

On Friday, 16 September 2016 8:50:34 PM AEST, Pat Wall  
wrote:

Hi Mitchell

As a matter of interest, are you using the v1 or v2 Microsoft Display
Adapter?  v2 is *supposed* to have much less latency (I'm thinking of
buying one myself for use with the M10). I have read that a lag can
potentially be reduced by setting the wi-fi router to broadcast on a
different channel as apparently there is a possibility of interference with
the display adapter's wireless connection.


Pat

On 16 September 2016 at 07:34, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:


Hi, just got a Microsoft wifi display adapter today, and have been using
it with my Meizu Pro 5. Meh... would love to know what to expect. On my
Samsung monitor (21 inch) it is extremely laggy, with very poor screen
resolution. Is this similar to what other people have been experiencing?
Have been excited to try it in place of my PC, but currently 
there's no way

- even with desktop apps installed, everything is so slow - keyboard and
mouse. Am running the RC channel.

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Wireless Display

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi, just got a Microsoft wifi display adapter today, and have been using 
it with my Meizu Pro 5. Meh... would love to know what to expect. On my 
Samsung monitor (21 inch) it is extremely laggy, with very poor screen 
resolution. Is this similar to what other people have been experiencing? 
Have been excited to try it in place of my PC, but currently there's no 
way - even with desktop apps installed, everything is so slow - keyboard 
and mouse. Am running the RC channel.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Syncevolution upgrade? Broken owncloud carddav sync.

[Mitchell Reese]

Try creating a seperate account with a couple new contacts and syncing 
that. I had something similar a year back, and the issue was that the data 
from a few contact was corrupt.


M

On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 5:19:58 PM AEST, Louis Holbrook 
 wrote:

I'm using ownCube 8.2.5. It's a bit old, I know, but the people
maintaining the server opine that it's more stable than subsequent
upgrades. I don't know...

Anyway, I can't for sure say whether this happened due to an upgrade on
the phone or the server, because I can't remember last  I used the sync.

But since my laptop version of Evolution is still able to sync it
(although the sync on my laptop is configured in
the .local/share/evolution and not .local/share/syncevolution - maybe
that also makes a difference, I'm not fully fluent here), and my phone
suddenly is not, it indicates it has something to do with a phone update
in the meantime - most likely the one in july.





On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 07:57 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Working fine for me with contact sync...

What owncloud version are you on?

Mitchell

On Tuesday, 13 September 2016 6:09:21 PM AEST, Louis Holbrook 
 wrote:
> Has there been an upgrade of syncevolution in one of the 
recent updates?

> (I can't find any mention in any of the commitlogs):
> 
> http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/
> 
> I haven't used my sync (against OwnCloud) in the last couple of months
> or so, but when I wanted to set it up again now, with the 
same method as

> before:
> 
> 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/616081/ubuntu-touch-add-contact-list-and-calendars
> 
> ... the contact sync only gets 13 of 500+ contacts, complaining about

> 404 errors in "MULTIGET" requests.
> 
> From the syncevolution changelog I get the impression that 
this MULTIGET

> feature is of newer date. Since the sync still works on my Linux Mint
> Evolution, I presume the change that broke the sync resides 
on the phone

> and not the OwnCloud instance.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 












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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Syncevolution upgrade? Broken owncloud carddav sync.

[Mitchell Reese]

Working fine for me with contact sync...

What owncloud version are you on?

Mitchell

On Tuesday, 13 September 2016 6:09:21 PM AEST, Louis Holbrook 
 wrote:

Has there been an upgrade of syncevolution in one of the recent updates?
(I can't find any mention in any of the commitlogs):

http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/

I haven't used my sync (against OwnCloud) in the last couple of months
or so, but when I wanted to set it up again now, with the same method as
before:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/616081/ubuntu-touch-add-contact-list-and-calendars

... the contact sync only gets 13 of 500+ contacts, complaining about
404 errors in "MULTIGET" requests.

From the syncevolution changelog I get the impression that this MULTIGET
feature is of newer date. Since the sync still works on my Linux Mint
Evolution, I presume the change that broke the sync resides on the phone
and not the OwnCloud instance.

Any ideas?






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Canonical branded phone?

[Mitchell Reese]

Yep - here's a link on AskUbuntu:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android

And here's the documentation I followed, posted up as a thread on Google+

https://plus.google.com/u/0/103449842981186239877/posts/RBDbK82Lt83

Works beautifully! Still sorting out over the air updates, but a very 
awesome Ubuntu Touch device. And it's black instead of White...


Good luck.

M


On 12/09/16 13:28, Mathijs Veen wrote:
For the record, I just bought and flashed Ubuntu Touch on a Meizu Pro 
5 - very possible, and not that hard to do. Cheers,


Hi Mitchell now thats good news. I scanned xda a while back and read 
there was still problems doing that. Could you point me to some details?


On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Mitchell Reese 
mailto:d...@curiouslegends.com.au>> wrote:


For the record, I just bought and flashed Ubuntu Touch on a Meizu
Pro 5 - very possible, and not that hard to do. Cheers,

M

On 12/09/16 13:14, Mathijs Veen wrote:

Well I am not quite that pessimistic Bob,

I am just saying if no oems are doing a new Ubuntu phone any
time soon, you would need a relatively current reference
device that is stable. Just to tide every one over till that
time does come again. Say an N5 or N6. I congratulate you on
getting your hands on an MX5. I was just a week too late on
that one. Completely surprised at such a limited run. I would
take it of your hands if you' re ditching it :)

It wasn’t my intention to bash the project to death at all. I
do actually believe in the possibility of breaking into the
status quo. If the proposition is good enough. And I still
believe UT can be that. I recently did a live head-to-head on
comparison with a hp windows continuum phone. And Ubuntu won
on some major points hands down. Convergence is pretty awsum
already and the design is as good as any phone I have owned.

But i think Canonical can't afford to lose the base of users
it has now. So they need a reliable device coming from somewhere.


On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 3:07 AM, Bob Summerwill
mailto:b...@summerwill.net>
<mailto:b...@summerwill.net <mailto:b...@summerwill.net>>> wrote:

Great summary, Mathijs,

I have been using first a Meizu MX4 and then a Meizu MX5 Pro
successfully here in Vancouver, Canada as my daily driver.

But in the absence of real devices, there is little point
in the
project continuing.   It would just be a drain of limited
funding
for Canonical, who have plenty of other important projects
which
need their focus.

It is indeed a bitter pill to swallow, but unlike other open
source projects which can continue indefinitely as long as
there
are people with itches to scratch, for Ubuntu Touch and other
mobile OSes there is a real co-dependency between hardware and
specific software. You aren't making software which can
run on any
x86 chip, as is the case for much of the desktop world.

Without supported hardware, it is pointless.   Well, you could
support the emulators indefinitely, but that isn't
producing any
real value in itself.

The same situation has already led to the demise of MeeGo,
Firefox
OS and a trial-by-fire for Sailfish OS.And the zombie
state of
Windows Phone, for that matter. Blackberry OS is on
death's door
as well.You need to achieve critical mass, or you die.

Withdrawing to just tablets is another option, because it
removes
the whole wireless modem stack and carriers from the picture.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Mathijs Veen
mailto:mathijsv...@gmail.com>
<mailto:mathijsv...@gmail.com <mailto:mathijsv...@gmail.com>>>
wrote:

Hi

(Jo-Erlend, I think you are missing the point: There
aren't
any phones for new user to get. But worse: there are
no phones
for active users/developers to replace theirs if
broken. There
haven’t been for quite some time. That's bad because it is
really hampering community involvement, let alone
growing it).

If I may boil the discussion down:

The last Ubuntu phone that went to market (in very limited
numbers and for a very short time) was in back in April.
Today, virtually no one in this thread is expecting
another
official Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Canonical branded phone?

[Mitchell Reese]

n the platform,
and are really not planning to build new phones then,
perhaps enthusiasts - of which there seem to be no
shortage - should go down the Fairphone route, and
crowd-source a small run of devices, designed for
Ubuntu and produced by an OEM. I don't know what the
run of the Meizu or bq phones amounted to, but surely
    say ~20,000 high-spec Ubuntu phones could be sold?


m


On 07/09/16 17:53, Mitchell Reese wrote:



On Thursday, 8 September 2016 4:47:42 AM AEST, Bob
Summerwill 
<mailto:b...@summerwill.net> wrote:

Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running
Touch?


I suspect that the answer to that is "no".

If, as seems likely, both BQ and Meizu have no
immediate plans to ship
further Ubuntu Touch devices then that likely means
that it is not
economically beneficial to them to do so.   That
certainly isn't an
appealing market for other OEMs to join.   
Canonical would likely be

pouring their money down the drain with such a device.

Mozilla went through a very similar journey with
Firefox OS, though with
way more devices and way more traction. They ended
up giving up on the
device side, and focusing on just community ports,
and on application of
the OS to new (non-mobile) markets.

Mobile is a tough, tough market to compete with.
Commodity Android
devices are very, very compelling to the mass
market. Mobile Linux is a
really niche.   See the troubles Jolla have
experienced too. Even
Samsung are struggling to make any kind of impact
with Tizen - though that
likely has more to do with their own internal
politics than any lack of
resourcing or ability to sell large volumes.

My personal feeling is that mobile is now "mature",
and uninteresting, like
the PC market.   Who really cares if you have an
ASUS or an Acer or a HP or
whatever.They have razor-thin markets and little
differentiation. I
think that is where mobile is getting to be, with
Android as the Windows,
and iOS as the Mac.So iOS is premium and
profitable, "because Apple",
but Android is the de-facto standard, commodity and
unprofitable. That
is a really unappealing place to try to build a
third platform.

Android has utterly skewed manufacturing too, to my
understanding, so that
if you want to get a SoC now, you are going to get
Android bootloaders and
drivers on it.   As blobs.   And you're just going
to have to suck that up.
   Want X11 drivers?   No way.

Tizen is the only mobile Linux which hasn't just
made the pragmatic choice
of avoiding the issue by using Hybris.   For
everybody else, Android has
become the de-facto HAL :-)

So yeah... I have an MX5 Pro as my daily driver and
love it.   MX4 before
that.But I don't have much hope of any future
Ubuntu Touch mobile
devices.I think we're likely walking dead, but
just haven't stopped
walking yet.

So maybe Jolla and Tizen are the "last men standing"
in this space?For
mobile profile, at least.Tablets are a different
story.   Ditto IoT and
Ubuntu Snappy Core.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM, mark
 <mailto:j.m.hol...@me.com> wrote:


+1

The same thought had crossed my mind. Touch seems
to be reaching the point
of maturity where something of the Edge's specs
might come to fruition. It
would be a winner, imho.

Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch?

m

On 07/09/16 14:32, Art wrote:

Question...

I read all the comments, and I am now curious.

What is to stop Cano

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Canonical branded phone?

[Mitchell Reese]

On Thursday, 8 September 2016 4:47:42 AM AEST, Bob Summerwill 
 wrote:

Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch?


I suspect that the answer to that is "no".

If, as seems likely, both BQ and Meizu have no immediate plans to ship
further Ubuntu Touch devices then that likely means that it is not
economically beneficial to them to do so.   That certainly isn't an
appealing market for other OEMs to join.Canonical would likely be
pouring their money down the drain with such a device.

Mozilla went through a very similar journey with Firefox OS, though with
way more devices and way more traction.   They ended up giving up on the
device side, and focusing on just community ports, and on application of
the OS to new (non-mobile) markets.

Mobile is a tough, tough market to compete with.Commodity Android
devices are very, very compelling to the mass market.Mobile Linux is a
really niche.   See the troubles Jolla have experienced too. Even
Samsung are struggling to make any kind of impact with Tizen - though that
likely has more to do with their own internal politics than any lack of
resourcing or ability to sell large volumes.

My personal feeling is that mobile is now "mature", and uninteresting, like
the PC market.   Who really cares if you have an ASUS or an Acer or a HP or
whatever.They have razor-thin markets and little differentiation.I
think that is where mobile is getting to be, with Android as the Windows,
and iOS as the Mac.So iOS is premium and profitable, "because Apple",
but Android is the de-facto standard, commodity and unprofitable. That
is a really unappealing place to try to build a third platform.

Android has utterly skewed manufacturing too, to my understanding, so that
if you want to get a SoC now, you are going to get Android bootloaders and
drivers on it.   As blobs.   And you're just going to have to suck that up.
   Want X11 drivers?   No way.

Tizen is the only mobile Linux which hasn't just made the pragmatic choice
of avoiding the issue by using Hybris.   For everybody else, Android has
become the de-facto HAL :-)

So yeah... I have an MX5 Pro as my daily driver and love it.   MX4 before
that.But I don't have much hope of any future Ubuntu Touch mobile
devices.I think we're likely walking dead, but just haven't stopped
walking yet.

So maybe Jolla and Tizen are the "last men standing" in this space?For
mobile profile, at least.Tablets are a different story.   Ditto IoT and
Ubuntu Snappy Core.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM, mark  wrote:


+1

The same thought had crossed my mind. Touch seems to be 
reaching the point
of maturity where something of the Edge's specs might come to 
fruition. It

would be a winner, imho.

Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch?

m

On 07/09/16 14:32, Art wrote:

Question...

I read all the comments, and I am now curious.

What is to stop Canonical from releasing their own branded phones right
now?? Just because the current 'offering' isn't Canonical 
branded, Is there

anything that prevents them from selling a Canonical branded phone later
on??

After all, now we know that a linux based phone actually 
works, what is to
stop Canonical (or even myself) from seeking out an 
independent phone OEM,

buying them in bulk and rebranding them, complete with the linux software
already installed?

Great list all, I hope to see the linux phone succeed! It's about time we
take back control of our own phones and block all the 'features' that rob
us of our privacy!!

Art




On 09/05/2016 10:49 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:


Hi

Did anyone from Canonical considered to 'simply' develop phone themselves
alone, order it in factory and sell with Canonical brand?





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Hmmm. Disagree - thanfully. Otherwise, whats the point? Similar arguments 
when Microsoft was still a thing - why compete?


The thing about Ubuntu is it's also a desktop system - and has the 
potential to be much more. Will be interesting to see where this goes, but 
I'm backing Canonical. 


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Offtopic: Re: Thread on Hacker News

[Mitchell Reese]

On 06/09/16 23:37, Simos Xenitellis wrote:


On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Mitchell Reese
 wrote:

Wasn't aware either of the etiquette - nor could I care. The links were
really useful - thanks heaps for posting them! Would be awesome to see more
such posts in the future.

The issue with shortened links is that they can present security and
privacy risks.

For example, for privacy: the t.co link would redirect to an
intermediary website which would log the full request, then redirect
to the final destination.

For security, it can redirect to an intermediary website that would
filter out important visitors (for example, those that connect from
certain companies), and deliver malicious payload.

If you want to check where a shortened URL points to, you would need
to open a terminal and type

$ curl -v https://t.co/B1exFdmB88
...
< HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
< cache-control: private,max-age=300
< content-length: 0
< date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 13:32:30 GMT
< expires: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 13:37:30 GMT
< location: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12433739
...

So, no shortened URLs.

Simos

Good point. Thanks for explaining this - it makes sense now.



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thread on Hacker News

[Mitchell Reese]

Wasn't aware either of the etiquette - nor could I care. The links were 
really useful - thanks heaps for posting them! Would be awesome to see 
more such posts in the future.


Mitchell


On 06/09/16 21:25, padraic stack wrote:


I wasn't aware of the etiquette, and was emailing from my phone. 
Copying and pasting is a little laborious so I copied both urls from a 
tweet -  hence the shortened urls.


A front page story on HN can be a significant driver of Web traffic so 
I thought it worth posting both links quickly.


I'll observe the etiquette in future.


On 6 Sep 2016 11:41 a.m., "Nathan Haines" > wrote:


On 09/06/2016 02:56 AM, padraic stack wrote:

Thought people might be interested in this:
https://t.co/B1exFdmB88
https://t.co/Xm0MQdFLKB


It's polite to give any kind of description on what to expect when
posting links.  It's downright rude to use link shorteners with no
context.

The first link is a comment on YCombinator, discussing an
article.  The second link is the article in question.

The article discusses in some detail the experience of developing
for Ubuntu phones using the SDK, and describes his problems with
the inadequate Ubuntu documentation.  He also provides as many
solutions as he has been able to find:

http://zxstudio.org/blog/2016/04/06/experience-ubuntu-touch-development/


The post is overall positive, and he provides links to help
interested new developers find their footing.

The YCombinator comments don't seem to be related, and are just
sort of man-on-the-ground comments, although there only appears to
be one Ubuntu device user, and he isn't happy (but seems hopeful
for improvements):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12433739


Worth taking a look at.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ebay app/webbrowser

[Mitchell Reese]

Uninstall the ebay webapp, then try again through searching in the scope - 
once opened in the browser it should work.


M

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:28:38 AM AEST, Marcin Xc 
 wrote:
But it doesn't work on M10 any more. M10 doesn't open ebay at 
the moment at all. Click the link to the bug and look at the 
photos I attached. Ebay recognizes M10 as an unsupported device 
and tells me to buy a pc, android or an apple(i'd rather try it 
with an orange;-)).

Cheers
Marcin

  From: Mitchell Reese 
 To: Marcin Xc ; Ubuntu-phone 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:02 AM

 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ebay app/webbrowser
   
 It works by finding the item in the ebay scope first, then 
opening it in the webbrowser. But agreed - otherwise it's not a 
great experience. Mitchell
  
 On 24/08/16 16:52, Marcin Xc wrote:
  
 
|  Did You try to use an ebay app or browse ebay pages in a web 
browser recently?

 Try it.
 I already raised a bug report which You can join:
 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1616327
 
 Have a nice day ;-)

 ...with convergence;-P
 
   |


 
  
 
 
 

   



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ebay app/webbrowser

[Mitchell Reese]

It works by finding the item in the ebay scope first, then opening it in 
the webbrowser. But agreed - otherwise it's not a great experience.


Mitchell


On 24/08/16 16:52, Marcin Xc wrote:
Did You try to use an ebay app or browse ebay pages in a web browser 
recently?

Try it.
I already raised a bug report which You can join:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1616327

Have a nice day ;-)
...with convergence;-P





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Dropbox webapp

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi Tomas, never fixed the problem - issue currently with the webapp 
container. I did create a working dropbox click package but never 
bothered releasing it to the store. Happy to publish if there's enough 
interest, otherwise can just email it across to you.


Cheers,

Mitchell


On 22/08/16 22:50, Tomas Öqvist wrote:

Hi Mitchell,

any progress on this?

Thanks,

Tomas


Den 2016-07-20 kl. 04:08, skrev Mitchell Reese:
Am building a new dropbox webapp - none of the offerings in the store 
meet my needs. Have a working app now that spoofs the chrome browser, 
downloads and uploads files.


While I can choose any file from the File Manager to upload, I don't 
have the same option through the content hub with downloads - 
currently I'm only able to choose the Document Viewer. While this 
mostly works, I want to be able to download and save any file to work 
with.


This is working fine in the browser - I'm presented with a dialogue 
asking what I'd like to do - download the file or open with another 
application. How do I get this same dialogue happening from a webapp?


Mitchell







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[Ubuntu-phone] Xapps stuck in small window

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi, when I install xapps through libertine, they stay in their own small 
window. In staged mode there is black around them. In windowed they open 
small, and expand with thr same black when I resize them. Am rockin' 
rc-proposed on my Bq tablet.


Any workarounds?

Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Omg nexus 4

[Mitchell Reese]

After this ota,power off delay more time and drain battery 0%.
This system is very useless.
I return android for mi bq and nexus.
ITS MY FAULT!!
P.D.
The people purchase this phone for this?
this system depends android forever.
Ubuntu touch is ubuntu?no
We can apps desktop ubuntu?no
News phones is ubuntu?no
All previous android system.
No android=no UT
Best regards,for system useless.
The people,2 years after,system useless
Just about fed up with this guy - everything that he writes is 
nonconstructive, vitriolic criticism.  Could one of the moderators of 
this thread please disable his account? Constructive criticism yes - but 
no one should have to put up with this joker.


M

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No xapps?

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks. Backed up and did a full wipe, then shifted to rc-proposed. Loving 
it!


Cheers,

Mitchell

On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 9:37:53 PM AWST, Stephen M. Webb 
 wrote:

On 16-07-20 05:39 AM, Mitchell Reese wrote:

On 20/07/16 18:23, Mitchell Reese wrote:


On 20/07/16 14:52, Mitchell Reese wrote:
My xapps all seem to have disappeared... the Libertine scope 
is blank, and when I tap on an icon in the main scope,
(Firefox, Libreoffice) nothing happens. Also, there is no 
longer an open dialogue in Libreoffice for doc or odt

files. What have I done wrong?

System is not writable.

Cheers,

Mitchell


Just realised something messed up when the Puritine rootfs 
was updated a few weeks back - haven't tried it sense then.
I noticed it didn't seem to work, then has stopped updating 
me about it... not sure what happened. There is no rootfs

for puritine in .cache/libertine-containers

Has it moved, am I missing it, or is this the wrong location?


It sounds like things got fairly messed up when the update 
failed.  We suggest the safest and best way to recover is to

reflash your device using the desktop tools (see
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices 
and scroll down to "Upgrading manually").

DO NOT use --wipe or --bootstrap and your data will be safe.





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No xapps?

[Mitchell Reese]

On 20/07/16 18:23, Mitchell Reese wrote:


On 20/07/16 14:52, Mitchell Reese wrote:
My xapps all seem to have disappeared... the Libertine scope is 
blank, and when I tap on an icon in the main scope, (Firefox, 
Libreoffice) nothing happens. Also, there is no longer an open 
dialogue in Libreoffice for doc or odt files. What have I done wrong?


System is not writable.

Cheers,

Mitchell


Just realised something messed up when the Puritine rootfs was updated 
a few weeks back - haven't tried it sense then. I noticed it didn't 
seem to work, then has stopped updating me about it... not sure what 
happened. There is no rootfs for puritine in .cache/libertine-containers


Has it moved, am I missing it, or is this the wrong location?

M


Ok, realised the puritine rootfs is under /custom/click...

Still no idea why it's not working... none of my xapps are working...

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No xapps?

[Mitchell Reese]

On 20/07/16 14:52, Mitchell Reese wrote:
My xapps all seem to have disappeared... the Libertine scope is blank, 
and when I tap on an icon in the main scope, (Firefox, Libreoffice) 
nothing happens. Also, there is no longer an open dialogue in 
Libreoffice for doc or odt files. What have I done wrong?


System is not writable.

Cheers,

Mitchell


Just realised something messed up when the Puritine rootfs was updated a 
few weeks back - haven't tried it sense then. I noticed it didn't seem 
to work, then has stopped updating me about it... not sure what 
happened. There is no rootfs for puritine in .cache/libertine-containers


Has it moved, am I missing it, or is this the wrong location?

M

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Dropbox webapp

[Mitchell Reese]

On 20/07/16 18:02, Olivier Tilloy wrote:

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Mitchell Reese
 wrote:

Am building a new dropbox webapp - none of the offerings in the store meet
my needs. Have a working app now that spoofs the chrome browser, downloads
and uploads files.

While I can choose any file from the File Manager to upload, I don't have
the same option through the content hub with downloads - currently I'm only
able to choose the Document Viewer. While this mostly works, I want to be
able to download and save any file to work with.

This is working fine in the browser - I'm presented with a dialogue asking
what I'd like to do - download the file or open with another application.
How do I get this same dialogue happening from a webapp?

This is https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560086

Good to know, thanks.

M

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[Ubuntu-phone] No xapps?

[Mitchell Reese]

My xapps all seem to have disappeared... the Libertine scope is blank, 
and when I tap on an icon in the main scope, (Firefox, Libreoffice) 
nothing happens. Also, there is no longer an open dialogue in 
Libreoffice for doc or odt files. What have I done wrong?


System is not writable.

Cheers,

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Dropbox webapp

[Mitchell Reese]

Am building a new dropbox webapp - none of the offerings in the store 
meet my needs. Have a working app now that spoofs the chrome browser, 
downloads and uploads files.


While I can choose any file from the File Manager to upload, I don't 
have the same option through the content hub with downloads - currently 
I'm only able to choose the Document Viewer. While this mostly works, I 
want to be able to download and save any file to work with.


This is working fine in the browser - I'm presented with a dialogue 
asking what I'd like to do - download the file or open with another 
application. How do I get this same dialogue happening from a webapp?


Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Common user makes a fool when displaying your operating system.

[Mitchell Reese]

Ackkk Trolll!!

On 29/06/16 21:27, francisco mulas caracuel wrote:


scopes continue sending us to the browser. We have spent our money to 
buy phones in which you promised us convergence aethercast , etc .

Reality:
My bq E4.5 without aethercast , or convervencia , why? Gives you the 
same. My Nexus 4, which is better than bq , slow, slow , why? Gives 
you the same. Ubuntu for everyone? That funny. The scopes , the pillar 
of ubuntu touch ,like , if you see something you send to the browser. 
You have the problem of manufacturers, but now we dejais unsupported . 
When the snap packages?
Respect to those who have purchased a phone with your s.o Arreglad 
from the scopes , the aethercast and snap parciales.
You do not realize , but we have a phone , that for anything we send 
to the browser. We have serious applications or games, we have nothing.

To use a browser serves any phone constantly .






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] And now for something not entirely different

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks Vic, the UK store would be fine. Thanks for your help! Ideally 
something with a 5 inch screen, otherwise the 4.5 would do. Thanks!


Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 5:53:45 PM AEST, Vic G  
wrote:
I'll ping our commercial department to know if it's possible putting any 
compatible device available in our online store or outlet. I can't 
ensure success but I'll try ;)


If I find a way to do so, the UK online store would fit your needs?.

Cheers,


El 15/06/16 a las 09:24, Mitchell Reese escribió:
Happy to buy, but I don't speak German, and can't work out if they 
ship internationally or not. Seems Germany only. Are there any phones 
I can buy fro. BQ's main site and flash Ubuntu on?


Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 3:59:08 PM AEST, Víctor González 
 wrote:

Hi Michtell!

Seems like our german online store still have some units:
https://store-de.bq.com/de/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5

Cheers,


Víctor González Troncoso

Área de Postventa
Responsable de Soporte Ubuntu (SAUX)

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Marie Curie, 19 Bloque 2 Planta 6 Oficina 6
28521 Rivas Vaciamadrid (Madrid)
www.bq.com
www.mibqyyo.com

  <http://facebook.com/bqreaders> <http://twitter.com/bqreaders>


2016-06-15 7:41 GMT+02:00 Mitchell Reese :


How did you get a new device? My phone has packed it in after a recent
trip to Borneo - can't find a bq for sale anywhere! Thoughts?

Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 5:31:16 AM AEST, Gareth France <
gareth.fra...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to the amazing service provided by BQ and also the users of 
this
list I found myself with a replacement for my broken phone and a 
discount
code for the BQ store. I opted to buy a phone to replace that 
unbearable
android monstrosity my partner has. Knowing she would never get 
along with

Ubuntu as it's different to what she's used to I opted for the Android
model and thought nothing of it as it's the same phone.

I was mildly surprised by what turned up in the post. There is no 
doubt
it is the same phone as mine yet it is quite different. The first 
thing I
noted is that the little pin for removing the sim cards only has 
one spike
on it, the one for opening the SD card slot is missing. So I looked 
at the

SD slot and was greeted by blank plastic, no cover there at all! 2 sim
slots just the same but the power button is in the wrong place. 
Where the
power button should be is what looks like another sim slot, but 
this time
for housing the SD card. The notification light is in the wrong 
place and

blinks in an entirely different manner to mine.

All in all it kind of felt like returning home to find someone had
rearranged all the furniture! It will be very interesting to see 
how this

new handset compares to mine from a usability standpoint (crashing,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] And now for something not entirely different

[Mitchell Reese]

Happy to buy, but I don't speak German, and can't work out if they ship 
internationally or not. Seems Germany only. Are there any phones I can buy 
fro. BQ's main site and flash Ubuntu on?


Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 3:59:08 PM AEST, Víctor González 
 wrote:

Hi Michtell!

Seems like our german online store still have some units:
https://store-de.bq.com/de/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5

Cheers,


Víctor González Troncoso

Área de Postventa
Responsable de Soporte Ubuntu (SAUX)

Tlf.: +34 91 142 06 82 | Ext: 2003

Marie Curie, 19 Bloque 2 Planta 6 Oficina 6
28521 Rivas Vaciamadrid (Madrid)
www.bq.com
www.mibqyyo.com

  <http://facebook.com/bqreaders><http://twitter.com/bqreaders>


2016-06-15 7:41 GMT+02:00 Mitchell Reese :


How did you get a new device? My phone has packed it in after a recent
trip to Borneo - can't find a bq for sale anywhere! Thoughts?

Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 5:31:16 AM AEST, Gareth France <
gareth.fra...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks to the amazing service provided by BQ and also the users of this
list I found myself with a replacement for my broken phone 
and a discount

code for the BQ store. I opted to buy a phone to replace that unbearable
android monstrosity my partner has. Knowing she would never 
get along with

Ubuntu as it's different to what she's used to I opted for the Android
model and thought nothing of it as it's the same phone.

I was mildly surprised by what turned up in the post. There is no doubt
it is the same phone as mine yet it is quite different. The 
first thing I
noted is that the little pin for removing the sim cards only 
has one spike
on it, the one for opening the SD card slot is missing. So I 
looked at the

SD slot and was greeted by blank plastic, no cover there at all! 2 sim
slots just the same but the power button is in the wrong 
place. Where the
power button should be is what looks like another sim slot, 
but this time
for housing the SD card. The notification light is in the 
wrong place and

blinks in an entirely different manner to mine.

All in all it kind of felt like returning home to find someone had
rearranged all the furniture! It will be very interesting to 
see how this

new handset compares to mine from a usability standpoint (crashing,
hanging, overall speed, etc).





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] And now for something not entirely different

[Mitchell Reese]

Awesome! Are there any 5's left?

M

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 3:59:08 PM AEST, Víctor González 
 wrote:

Hi Michtell!

Seems like our german online store still have some units:
https://store-de.bq.com/de/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5

Cheers,


Víctor González Troncoso

Área de Postventa
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Tlf.: +34 91 142 06 82 | Ext: 2003

Marie Curie, 19 Bloque 2 Planta 6 Oficina 6
28521 Rivas Vaciamadrid (Madrid)
www.bq.com
www.mibqyyo.com

  <http://facebook.com/bqreaders><http://twitter.com/bqreaders>


2016-06-15 7:41 GMT+02:00 Mitchell Reese :


How did you get a new device? My phone has packed it in after a recent
trip to Borneo - can't find a bq for sale anywhere! Thoughts?

Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 5:31:16 AM AEST, Gareth France <
gareth.fra...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks to the amazing service provided by BQ and also the users of this
list I found myself with a replacement for my broken phone 
and a discount

code for the BQ store. I opted to buy a phone to replace that unbearable
android monstrosity my partner has. Knowing she would never 
get along with

Ubuntu as it's different to what she's used to I opted for the Android
model and thought nothing of it as it's the same phone.

I was mildly surprised by what turned up in the post. There is no doubt
it is the same phone as mine yet it is quite different. The 
first thing I
noted is that the little pin for removing the sim cards only 
has one spike
on it, the one for opening the SD card slot is missing. So I 
looked at the

SD slot and was greeted by blank plastic, no cover there at all! 2 sim
slots just the same but the power button is in the wrong 
place. Where the
power button should be is what looks like another sim slot, 
but this time
for housing the SD card. The notification light is in the 
wrong place and

blinks in an entirely different manner to mine.

All in all it kind of felt like returning home to find someone had
rearranged all the furniture! It will be very interesting to 
see how this

new handset compares to mine from a usability standpoint (crashing,
hanging, overall speed, etc).





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] And now for something not entirely different

[Mitchell Reese]

How did you get a new device? My phone has packed it in after a recent trip 
to Borneo - can't find a bq for sale anywhere! Thoughts?


Mitchell

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 5:31:16 AM AEST, Gareth France 
 wrote:
Thanks to the amazing service provided by BQ and also the users of this 
list I found myself with a replacement for my broken phone and a 
discount code for the BQ store. I opted to buy a phone to replace that 
unbearable android monstrosity my partner has. Knowing she would never 
get along with Ubuntu as it's different to what she's used to I opted 
for the Android model and thought nothing of it as it's the same phone.


I was mildly surprised by what turned up in the post. There is no doubt 
it is the same phone as mine yet it is quite different. The first thing 
I noted is that the little pin for removing the sim cards only has one 
spike on it, the one for opening the SD card slot is missing. So I 
looked at the SD slot and was greeted by blank plastic, no cover there 
at all! 2 sim slots just the same but the power button is in the wrong 
place. Where the power button should be is what looks like another sim 
slot, but this time for housing the SD card. The notification light is 
in the wrong place and blinks in an entirely different manner to mine.


All in all it kind of felt like returning home to find someone had 
rearranged all the furniture! It will be very interesting to see how 
this new handset compares to mine from a usability standpoint (crashing, 
hanging, overall speed, etc).






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] A very open thank you.

[Mitchell Reese]

Only an issue on the mobile site... desktop version in browser doesn't have 
this issue - fine on my M10. But yeah, what a sucky thing to do...


Mitchell

On Tuesday, 14 June 2016 5:46:24 PM AEST, Gareth France 
 wrote:

On 14/06/16 08:43, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Despite of collecting data and other reasons, shouldn't this not already
reason enough for not using Facebook at all.

matthias
Agreed but the sad reality is that everyone uses facebook so unless you 
want to be isolated from them you have to as well. Vicious circle. And 
you can't say they don't matter, otherwise we wouldn't have an app 
installed as standard, they've got the world cornered so I guess that's 
why they can make these bad decisions with no thought for the little guy.






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Owncloud Sync - How do you eat yours?

[Mitchell Reese]

It's possible - you need to log into Telegram via the webbrowser first, 
then the link will let you join the group. Clunky, but works on Touch. M


On Friday, 27 May 2016 5:11:47 PM WIB, Daniel Wood 
 wrote:

Hi Stefan,

As far as I am aware you can't open telegram links on the ubuntu browser
i'm afraid, you will need to use another browser.

Thanks,

Dan


On 27 May 2016 at 10:16, Stefan Kamps  wrote:


Hi Daniel,

I would like help testing your app (I already use owncloud 
file sync using

manual installation / configuration).
However, I'm not able to join the Telegram group. When I click 
the link in
Dekko, the browser opens and the page with the join button 
appears. When I

click on the join button nothing happens.

Best regards,

Stefan

Am Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 10:38:13 CEST schrieb Daniel Wood <
s.d.wood...@googlemail.com>:


Hi Guys,

I'm getting close to producing some beta builds. If you're interested in
helping test you can join the telegram group [1].

I will share the betas via the telegram group. if you have openstore [2]
installed you will be able to install directly from telegram.

It still needs lots of tidying up but if your happy with a 
few rough edges

and can provide feedback / bug reports, then please add yourself to the
telegram group.

[1] https://telegram.me/joinchat/BQHZRAiN_pnOeE4mT31YCQ
[2] https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/openstore.openstore-team

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thunderbird

[Mitchell Reese]

On 27/05/16 05:20, Barry wrote:
Hi   I've always used the regular method of transferring my 
Thunderbird stuff to a new Ubuntu installation by copying the 
.thunderbird directory from th old, int the new. It no longer works, 
and I am supposed to set up each email account separately.


So, I've reported it as a bug in ver. 38.8.0 on Xenial. 
1585...@bugs.launchpad.net


I've installed Evolution instead, and and am setting up the accounts 
on there.  Thunderbird has no provision for exporting the settings. 
Evolution has.  It has many other advantages,  sad about this, but I 
see no alternative unless mozilla are prepared to do something about 
the problem.


Regards,Barry.

You can probably still use thunderbird, just a matter of where you put 
the config folder. Thunderbird is running under a libertine container 
called 'Puritine' as a legacy app, so you can try putting the directory 
under: ~/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine/.thunderbird


Personally, I prefer Dekko - the UI for Thunderbird on the M10 is way to 
small.


Good luck with it,

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] M10 in Borneo...

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi folks, quick update on using this awesome tablet - am on the island of 
Borneo (Kalimantan, Indonesia) with a theatre project deep in the heart of 
the island. Have taken the M10 with me and am loving it. Not quite a 
desktop replacement, but very close at this stage - most days I don't need 
to open my laptop, and can do most of my work on this device. It's been 
invaluable to have something I can easily transport to different areas, 
take pictures (camera app), write notes (Notes App), Email, Telegram 
contacts, check translations - highly useful. For those interested, here's 
a link to our project blog: www.orang-utan.com.au/category/project-updates


I don't have much time for bug reports, but if it's useful, here's some 
feedback:


1. Overall, awesome device!
2. Sync works beautifully with Syncthing, however have had to use an 
unconfined version - currently not enough usability with the default system 
not to have an unconfined sync app of some description (Owncloud, 
SyncThing, etc.). Currently I'm syncing between a laptop, phone (Ubuntu), 
and server. 
3. Libreoffice on this is awesome! To get the most functionality however, 
I've needed to bind mount folders where I keep our project data (on the 
sdcard) - would be great in the future if there was an easier way to do 
this
4. Calendar and contacts sync works great through Owncloud & syncevolution 
- have not needed to make my device writable for this.
5. Looking forward to the lag being fixed in the gui, particularly when in 
Desktop mode.


Thanks again people - am enjoying the ride, and looking forward where this 
system goes next.


Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Contact sync with Cardav

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi Paul. Its old, and for owncloud, but you might find something useful 
here: http://mitchellreese.id.au/owncloud-sync-on-ubuntu-touch/


Good luck,

Mitchell

On Tuesday, 3 May 2016 6:07:10 PM WIB, Paul Harmsworth 
 wrote:

Hi,

I can see that Contacts allows a google account to be setup but that  
does not help me.


I need to be able to sync contacts with horde using either activsync  
or Caldav could someone point me in the right direction please?


Regards

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Libertine - user folders

[Mitchell Reese]

On Thursday, 28 April 2016 11:10:03 PM AEST, Stephen M. Webb 
 wrote:

On 16-04-27 11:24 PM, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Hi - am loving using Libertine, and chroot filesystems - great 
concept! Couple questions:


1. How do I edit which folders are shown to libertine apps? 
I.e., both with the 'puritine' container, and my custom
'extra' container, I'm shown several folders in my home 
directory, but not all. I.e., Downloads is missing, as well as
several custom folders. I'm aware I can bind-mount to folders 
inside the chroot, but there seems to be the default

configuration somewhere that I'm missing.


There is no place to configure what gets mounted.  It's 
purposefully restricted for confinement reasons.


Figured this out. Folders can be added here:
.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine

Of course, adding symlinms there won't work, and dragging files defeats the 
purpose. Bind mounting however works. I have a symlink in my /home/phablet 
directory called Storage that links to the sdcard. So after adding Storage 
under the above directory:


mount -o bind /home/phablet/Storage 
/home/phablet/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine/Storage


Puritine apps can now access the sdcard through the file selection within 
the app. I suspect this will need to be rerun each boot, or run as a 
script.


Cheers,

Mitchell



2. Gui for all Libertine apps is tiny!!! How do I edit the 
default libertine font sizes?


Most desktop apps were designed for last century's hardware and 
assume a display with 96 pixels per inch.  Today's 4k
displays and pocket computer screens run at about 300 pixels 
per inch or better.  That means when you open up a legacy
application from last century on your phone or tablet screen, 
it's going to be teeny tiny.  We're working on trying to
upscale automatically, but (a) upscaling will look less than 
satisfactory and won't be pixel-perfect and (2) there isn't

enough screen real estate to show everything when upscaled.

You'll find the legacy apps look OK on a large external monitor 
with a traditional legacy pixel density.


The only good solution to this problem is to bring the apps 
forward to 2016 and port them to run natively.  That's up to

the app developers.

3. Libreoffice can't open documents from the content hub. 
libreoffice come up as an option, but won't actually open
anything. I currently can only open docs from withi. 
Libreoffice. Are there any workarounds for this?


This is, unfortunately, still on the backlog for tasks left to do.





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Libertine

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks for they keyboard tip for X11 apps, works beautifully, if only in 
desktop mode. M


On Friday, 29 April 2016 3:28:08 AM AEST, Christian Hahn 
 wrote:

Hi,

I realized that when I have for instance gedit open and then run (in an
ssh shell)

$ DISPLAY=:0 libertine-launch puritine matchbox-keyboard

I get a useful onscreen keyboard for gedit.

Libertine uses the matchbox-window-manager, so instead of launching a
specific
programm i thought it would be cool to launch the matchbox-desktop

With the following steps you get a kind of desktop
http://radamanthys.de/public/screenshot20160428_171820149.png

from where you can start your programms
http://radamanthys.de/public/screenshot20160428_165342133.png
http://radamanthys.de/public/screenshot20160428_172200314.png


I created a desktop entry puritine_myxinit_0.0.desktop

$ cat /home/phablet/.local/share/applications/puritine_myxinit_0.0.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=0myxinit
Exec=/bin/true
Type=Application
StartupNotify=true
#Icon=/home/phablet/icons/green.svg 
Keywords=Libertine

NotShowIn=Unity;
X-Ubuntu-Touch=true
X-Ubuntu-XMir-Enable=true


Then I created the applications dir inside the container

$ mkdir
/home/phablet/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine/.local/share/applications

and there the desktop entry myxinit.desktop

$ cat
/home/phablet/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine/.local/share/applications/myxinit.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=MyXinit
#GenericName=Terminal
Exec=/home/phablet/myxinit
Terminal=false
Type=Application
#Encoding=UTF-8
Icon=xterm-color
Categories=System;TerminalEmulator;Utility;
X-Desktop-File-Install-Version=0.22

And in the home directory of the container the script myxinit

$ cat
/home/phablet/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine/myxinit
#!/bin/bash

sleep 1   # it's needed, dont know why

matchbox-keyboard &
#matchbox-panel &

exec matchbox-desktop
#exec matchbox-session

$ chmod 775
/home/phablet/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/puritine/myxinit

matchbox-session adds the matchbox-panel to the gui, which is more or
less useless



Libertine launches matchbox-window-manager with no titlebar. With the
titlebar on the other hand you get a small button to switch between
running apllications.

If you've done the previous steps not in puritine but in yourcontainer,
you can do

$ cd /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/yourcontainer/rootfs/usr/bin
$ mv matchbox-window-manager matchbox-window-manager-original

create a executable script with

$ cat matchbox-window-manager
#!/bin/bash

exec matchbox-window-manager-original

#setxkbmap -layout de
#exec awesome
#exec openbox



What are the reasons to run each programm with it's own Xmir-server, in
it's own confinement?
What do I have to do to just start a Xmir-Server?

Cheers

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Libertine - user folders

[Mitchell Reese]

On Thursday, 28 April 2016 11:10:03 PM AEST, Stephen M. Webb 
 wrote:

On 16-04-27 11:24 PM, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Hi - am loving using Libertine, and chroot filesystems - great 
concept! Couple questions:


1. How do I edit which folders are shown to libertine apps? 
I.e., both with the 'puritine' container, and my custom
'extra' container, I'm shown several folders in my home 
directory, but not all. I.e., Downloads is missing, as well as
several custom folders. I'm aware I can bind-mount to folders 
inside the chroot, but there seems to be the default

configuration somewhere that I'm missing.


There is no place to configure what gets mounted.  It's 
purposefully restricted for confinement reasons.


2. Gui for all Libertine apps is tiny!!! How do I edit the 
default libertine font sizes?


Most desktop apps were designed for last century's hardware and 
assume a display with 96 pixels per inch.  Today's 4k
displays and pocket computer screens run at about 300 pixels 
per inch or better.  That means when you open up a legacy
application from last century on your phone or tablet screen, 
it's going to be teeny tiny.  We're working on trying to
upscale automatically, but (a) upscaling will look less than 
satisfactory and won't be pixel-perfect and (2) there isn't

enough screen real estate to show everything when upscaled.

You'll find the legacy apps look OK on a large external monitor 
with a traditional legacy pixel density.


The only good solution to this problem is to bring the apps 
forward to 2016 and port them to run natively.  That's up to

the app developers.

3. Libreoffice can't open documents from the content hub. 
libreoffice come up as an option, but won't actually open
anything. I currently can only open docs from withi. 
Libreoffice. Are there any workarounds for this?


This is, unfortunately, still on the backlog for tasks left to do.



Ah, confinement my old friend... how many ways do you frustrste me?

While I appreciate the idea behind this concept, currently it is far less 
useful than it could be. In Australia our government is a 'nanny state' - 
protecting us from self-harm. I'd prefer that my computing devices didn't 
do the same thing.


How do I hack confinement so that I can edit which folders get mounted in 
libertine? (heh... liberty?) I'm a big fan of the open store for this 
reason - Id rather be the one to tell my tablet to behave...


Thanks for your other responses.

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Libertine - user folders

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi - am loving using Libertine, and chroot filesystems - great concept! 
Couple questions:


1. How do I edit which folders are shown to libertine apps? I.e., both with 
the 'puritine' container, and my custom 'extra' container, I'm shown 
several folders in my home directory, but not all. I.e., Downloads is 
missing, as well as several custom folders. I'm aware I can bind-mount to 
folders inside the chroot, but there seems to be the default configuration 
somewhere that I'm missing.
2. Gui for all Libertine apps is tiny!!! How do I edit the default 
libertine font sizes?
3. Libreoffice can't open documents from the content hub. libreoffice come 
up as an option, but won't actually open anything. I currently can only 
open docs from withi. Libreoffice. Are there any workarounds for this?


Thanks, and keep up the great work!

Mitchell


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[Ubuntu-phone] Ext3/4 & Encryption with the sdcard

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi folks - firstly, am loving using the M10. Am using it for work in place 
of my laptop for many scenarios - useful and fun little device. 

Currently I have syncing setup using Neil's open syncthing app: 
https://github.com/mcphail/ut_syncthing_open
Works great. With a 64gb sdcard, I'm able to sync most of my documents. I'm 
aware how easy it would be for someone to get access to them however - pop 
out the sdcard and my info is yours. This is an issue for travelling - 
Sunday I'm off to a remote part of Indonesia for 6 weeks to run a theatre 
project. HIghly useful having the tablet most of the time instead of my 
laptop - less interested in all my data being read should the tablet (or 
sdcard) go missing.


So - what's involved with formatting the sdcard to ext3 or ext4, and 
mounting it as a drive each time the tablet boots? Is it as simple as 
editing /etc/fstab, or more complex than that? An ideal setup would be 
something like ecryptfs setup for the tablet's sdcard. Happy to experiment 
and report back if someone can point me in the right direction. 


Cheers,

Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] (Aquaris M10) First Impressions/Experiences/Warnings/Questions/Suggestions

[Mitchell Reese]

Great! Thanks Oliver. It's working now beautifully - Michale's directions 
work really well. Have been able to do it all on the tablet, and haven't 
needed to make anything writable.


Thanks!

Mitchell

On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 8:21:23 AM AEST, Oliver Grawert  
wrote:

hi,
On Di, 2016-04-26 at 07:18 +1000, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Spent a long time trying to follow a couple 'how-tos' on this mailing
list 
- installing anything without enabling write permissions has been 
impossible. Would apprecite being pointed to some more concrete
directions 
with regards to Libertine.


the google doc michael linked pretty much re-sembles the same my script
does but in a simpler way, did you try to follow that yet ? 
you definitely dont need to make anything writable, only the container
config file needs to be moved out of the way ... 


there might be an issue with creating a container from the terminal
app, since it forbids the execution of the chroot command (which is a
bug i think), but you can work around that by using adb,, ssh or
phablet-shell to run the two commands you need to create a new
container ...

ciao
oli



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [tablet] confused after connecting M10 to monitor via HDMI.

[Mitchell Reese]

I had similar issues - solved them by getting a different micro to Hdmi 
adapter - the first wasn't  long enough (apparently two milimeters makes a 
big difference).


Working perfectly now.

Mitchell

On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 12:22:11 AM AEST, Alexey Balmashnov 
 wrote:

Hi,

Got HDMI-micro-HDMI cable and connected M10 FHD to ASUS PA246Q monior.

Observed:
* Looks like unity session got restarted killing all running apps, without
actually entering desktop mode
* Saw for a shot while notification that I am welcome to use tablet as
touchpad to control pointer
* Monitor is active and shows black screen
* Everything is back to be dsiplayed on the tablet screen

I am really confused now. How system should actually behave?

Cheers,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] (Aquaris M10) First Impressions/Experiences/Warnings/Questions/Suggestions

[Mitchell Reese]

Spent a long time trying to follow a couple 'how-tos' on this mailing list 
- installing anything without enabling write permissions has been 
impossible. Would apprecite being pointed to some more concrete directions 
with regards to Libertine.


Thanks,

Mitchekl

On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 12:07:31 AM AEST, Michael Zanetti 
 wrote:



On 24.04.2016 09:00, Niklas Brättemark wrote:

Hi all

My hope was to use the M10 when I travel as replacement to my laptop.
And connect remote to computers at home etc. I still hope we will see
apps like a real remote desktop client to ubuntu touch in the near
future. But i'm a little bit confused. Ubuntu Touch has been there for a
while and those apps are still missing. Really like the tablet and the
format. For the moment most missing rpd client and ssh sftp client. Sftp
could though be used from the command line...


Sure, at some point you will be able to install whatever desktop
application you want. Actually you can do that already right now. There
are some howtos on this mailing list. With some future update (I don't
know the exact timeline for it) there will be a ui for installing such
applications.





2016-04-24 1:59 GMT+02:00 Michael Zanetti mailto:michael.zane...@canonical.com>>:



On 23.04.2016 21:16, Alexey Balmashnov wrote:
> Got it/unpacked...
[...]
>
> Did not get at all why there is a subset of installed applications
> useless out-of-the box. Examples: Firefox, Gedit. One 
can start them,
> but on-screen keyboard is not activated in this apps -> 
not possible to

> use them without at least keyboard connected.

This is being worked on. Should hopefully work soon. For 
now, those apps

can only be used with a physical keyboard.

>
>
> Noticed bugs related to Ubuntu One account:
> * It is not present in the list of services in system 
settings -> accounts
> * If Ubuntu One connection app/widget/form (have no 
idea) activated from
> e.g Ubuntu Store, it is not possible to activate it from 
settings ->
> updates, button to activate is present, but tapping it 
does not do anything
> * While trying to connect with wrong password provided, 
got: "Network

> Error - please retry", was checking network/retrying for some time
> before realized that error message is wrong, and the 
issue is due to a

> wrong password.

Those account bugs are known and will be fixed with the next update.

>
>
> User interface: many times was confused with lists having on/off
> controls (check-box-like things). Their alignment is 
really weird on a
> bigger screen: text is on the left side, check-boxes are 
on the right
> side. And display is "just" 10" wide... How would it 
look like on e.g.
> 24" monitor, want actually to try it out, as soon as I 
get proper HDMI

> cable ;)

Not all applications are optimized for large screens yet. This is
something that will surely improve over time.

>
>
> The most frustrating bit is related to lack of information on very
> widely marketed and advertised convergence feature:
> First of all, lack of info on compatible peripheral HW, 
like keyboards,
> mice. Next to it lack of descriptions/instructions on 
how the device can

> actually get connected and converted into a PC:
> * Can one use combination of BT keyboard and BT mouse? 
What if they are

> from different manufacturers?
> * Can one use USB OTG cable/adapter to connect wireless 
desktop set to
> the device, e.g. some Logitech set via unifying USB 
receiver? If yes,
> how to get around the fact that there is only one 
physical USB port on

> the device?
> * Which devices and combinations will actually work?

Anything that has the Bluetooth logo on it should work. If 
it doesn't,
it's probably a bug. Please report it to Launchpad. Some 
mice which have

a special "window-switching" button pretend to be fully fledged
keyboards and currently confuse the system a bit, tricking it into
thinking a keyboard would be connected and hiding the OSK 
(In case you
would want to work with a mouse but no physical keyboard). 
We're working

on finding a solution there.

You can also use a micro USB to USB-A adapter and plug USB
mice/keyboards in. Again anything that has the USB logo on it should
work.

Currently there is a known bug about the AltGr key handling for some
languages. Also, some special keys on keyboards might not 
be supported
yet. Please report bugs in case you'll have such special 
keys and they

are not behaving as expected.

>
> Asking the above, because accessories booklet that came with device
> mentions OTG cable, and HDMI cable. (by the way, have no 
idea why, but I

> could not locate those items in BQ store)

I don't think bq sells too many accessories except 
protective cases. You

can find those in some [online]shop ne

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK kit issue on arch64

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi Zoltan, when I download and install the click package, the SD won't  
start. Heres a pastebin of my log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16048379/


Anything else I could try? My device is not currently writable, if that 
makes a difference.


Cheers,

Mitchell

On Sunday, 24 April 2016 7:29:32 PM AEST, Zoltán Balogh 
 wrote:



On 24/04/16 00:13, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Sdk doesn't seem to be working with Freiza - see this bug. Anyone 
found a workaround? 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-ide/+bug/1557187


Also, could someone please post a link to the click package version of 
the sdk?


Thanks.

Mitchell





Hi,

Please upgrade the SDK IDE package to the latest version [1] available 
in the SDK Release PPA [2]


This release fixes the problem. Please ping me if you still have problem.

The latest prototype of the click packaged IDE is available here [3] 
Please note that it is in work in progress and still lacks lots of core 
feature. The first usable package we expect to release in few weeks.


cheers,

bzoltan

[1] 3.5.1~133+201604191659~
[2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[3] http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/com.ubuntu.sdk_26_armhf.click






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK kit issue on arch64

[Mitchell Reese]

Great, thanks for this - downloading the click now, and will update from 
that ppa shortly.


Mitchell

On Sunday, 24 April 2016 7:29:32 PM AEST, Zoltán Balogh 
 wrote:



On 24/04/16 00:13, Mitchell Reese wrote:
Sdk doesn't seem to be working with Freiza - see this bug. Anyone 
found a workaround? 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-ide/+bug/1557187


Also, could someone please post a link to the click package version of 
the sdk?


Thanks.

Mitchell





Hi,

Please upgrade the SDK IDE package to the latest version [1] available 
in the SDK Release PPA [2]


This release fixes the problem. Please ping me if you still have problem.

The latest prototype of the click packaged IDE is available here [3] 
Please note that it is in work in progress and still lacks lots of core 
feature. The first usable package we expect to release in few weeks.


cheers,

bzoltan

[1] 3.5.1~133+201604191659~
[2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[3] http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/com.ubuntu.sdk_26_armhf.click






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] owncloud sync on the phone.

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi Filip, can't seem to get this working. In the logs I'm shown the sync 
starts, and finishes, but nothing is in between. No change on server or 
device. What owncloud server have you tested this with? Have tried now on 
8.1 and 9.1. Have ssl enabled server side, and have tried both enabling and 
disabling it in your script.


Any ideas?

Mitchell

On Saturday, 9 April 2016 2:26:44 AM AEST, Filip Dorosz 
 wrote:

Hello all.

As you may know I've been working at getting owncloud file sync on 
Ubuntu Touch using owncloud-client-cmd and some scripts. What I've 
archived so far is working owncloudcmd client on the phone, script for 
running that periodically and simple config files to adjust settings.


I've setup repository on my github so you can have a look at it:
https://github.com/fihufil/owncloud-file-sync

If someone is willing to create GUI for managing my config files it 
would be really nice.
I know this (whole project) is not suitable for official store but my 
guess it is for Openstore.


Any feedback if greatly welcome.

Happy CLI-hacking,
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[Ubuntu-phone] SDK kit issue on arch64

[Mitchell Reese]

Sdk doesn't seem to be working with Freiza - see this bug. Anyone found a 
workaround? 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-ide/+bug/1557187


Also, could someone please post a link to the click package version of the 
sdk?


Thanks.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 tablet ...

[Mitchell Reese]

Libreoffice writer comes preinstalled. Currently you need a keyboard to use 
it - ths should change with the next update. There are other text writers 
in the store. Great tablet!


M

On Sunday, 24 April 2016 4:47:43 AM AEST, Barry Drake 
 wrote:
I've followed the thread about the M10 Tablet with great interest. I 
expect to be getting one.  However, one App I will find essential will 
be a document writer, something like libreoffice writer.  Are there 
plans for anything at the moment?


Regards,Barry.





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions

[Mitchell Reese]

Awesome work! Will try later to confirm. Here's a link to the bug report - 
please add to it. Also has a workaround: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1573674


On Sunday, 24 April 2016 3:58:30 AM AEST, Marcin Xc  
wrote:
I Just took a ride with the tablet. GPS and uNav work on one 
condition. the program like unav or SensorsStatus work only when 
while turning them on a GPS signal is available. if we turn uNav 
at home under the roof and then go outside the program doesn't 
work. It works after program restart when gps signal is 
available. 


  From: Andrea Bernabei 
 To: Marcin Xc  
Cc: Mitchell Reese ; 
"ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" 


 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions
   



On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Marcin Xc  wrote:

Hi  Mitchell!


Hi Marcin! 
I also got my tablet this week. Point 8 - I have no problems 
with GPS. uNav seems works fine. However I didn't updated the 
device yet. There are about 500mb updates to be downloaded and 
at the moment I have only GSM Internet access. So without the 
update, as I said GPS works fine.Could You please provide us 
link to Your bug so tha we could join the issue?


What doesn't work on my tablet is a Libre office Writer. I 
can't write anything. Does this program only works with hardware 
keyboard? Is it impossible to write anything in libre office 
writer with a screen keyboard?



See Mitchell's point no.6 
When it comes to forgetting my Laptop, convergence and stuff 
like that, I can not. First of all because of the Libre Office. 
And then... sadly all "the others" use Skype and What's app. I 
even have to contact my boss through whats app, send pictures 
etc. I think only this two apps would bring Ubuntu phone and 
tablet many thousands or millions users. As far as now we are 
only crazy geeks ;-) who don't follow the mainstream :-)))
Cheers 


Marcin - well known GTrider


  From: Mitchell Reese 
 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net 
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:34 AM

 Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions
   
Hi people, thought I'd post up a few initial impressions with the FHD M10 
tablet. Have had it for a couple days now and been putting it through it's 
paces. All up - great job! Awesome hardware, and the system is lots of fun 
to use.


Firstly, I'm typing this in desktop mode paired top a Logitech 
keyboard and 
hp bluetooth mouse. Keyboard works flawlessly, mouse works best 
when one or 
two apps are open. More causes it to stutter.


Have tried an external display a couple times - works great both with a 
projector and smaller tv monitor. 

Overall the tablet works well, and is shaping up to be a great experience. 
Here are a few bugs I found so far - feel free to let me know the best 
place to report them and I'll post them up.


1. Mouse gets very laggy when more than a couple apps are open - very hard 
to scroll, let alone move it anywhere. Is this hardware related (i.e., not 
enough power yet), or OS (i.e., still being optimised)?
2. Switching between apps in desktop mode is very slow - worse with a 
mouse, however still slow with touch if more than a couple apps are open. 
Again - is this hardware or OS related?
3. Bug in initial download of the updated 10.1 ota - couldn't 
do it until I 
changed the timezone to manually with my location. 
4. Love the sidestage, however took me time to work out that I needed to 
tap with three fingers on the screen to dismiss it. Very slick now, but 
without saying this somewhere, it's difficult to figure out. Would be best 
on the instructions on the side stage when no app is there to say this, or 
at the very least the first time it's run.
5. In general, the system still has a fair bit of lag - noticeable when 
switching scopes, and watching videos while streaming (youtube, 
etc.) Again 
- OS or software related?
6. X11 apps are confusing. The gui is different (ouch! So 
small!!), and 
on screen keyboard doesn't work with them. Imho, I think there should be a 
seperate 'legacy apps' scope. Bundling them together with other apps that 
work great (Dekko, Unav, etc.) gives the impression they should also work 
as well. They don't.
7. Libreoffice is usable with a keyboard and mouse, but the font for all 
the settings is miniscule. This makes it painful to read. Would 
be great if 
there was some way to manually change this.
8. GPS doesn't work with the tablet - the daemon seems to continually be 
restarting, making it unusable. The only option has been to disable it 
entirely. Have filed a bug for this.


All up though, a great experience. There's no way in it's 
current form this 
table t can serve as a desktop - even my aging ultrabook - replacement. 
That said, working within it's current limitations, I've only opened my 
lapt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 - Most simple way to install Remmina (remote desktop app)

[Mitchell Reese]

Or this script from Ogra - you need to run it from an external device over 
adb or ssh:


http://paste.ubuntu.com/15980818/

On Sunday, 24 April 2016 1:44:48 AM AEST, Filip Dorosz 
 wrote:

Hello.

Consider using  Libertine [1] (preinstalled legacy apps use this) and 
read through this thread [2] this might help you.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Libertine
[2] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg19955.html

Regards,
Filip Dorosz

W dniu 23.04.2016 o 16:48, Niklas Brättemark pisze:

Hello all !

I'm new to this list and have just received my Aquaris M10.
Little bit disappointed that I can't find and rdp client in 
the app store.

Can someone help and guide me what the most simple way is to install for
examl Remmina ? if there is a simple way :)

/7Regards Niklas

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi Marcin, no osk for any x11 legacy apps yet - libreoffice included. This 
is being worked on, but hasn't hit yet. Have been wondering about 
installing something like onboard, but haven't tried it yet. Still getting 
my head around the libertine containers.


Interesting about gps - do you have the hd or fhd verson? Will link to the 
bug here a bit later today. Have been educating people about Telegram, 
works great!


Mitchell

On Sunday, 24 April 2016 1:49:01 AM AEST, Marcin Xc  
wrote:

Hi  Mitchell!
I also got my tablet this week. Point 8 - I have no problems 
with GPS. uNav seems works fine. However I didn't updated the 
device yet. There are about 500mb updates to be downloaded and 
at the moment I have only GSM Internet access. So without the 
update, as I said GPS works fine.Could You please provide us 
link to Your bug so tha we could join the issue?


What doesn't work on my tablet is a Libre office Writer. I 
can't write anything. Does this program only works with hardware 
keyboard? Is it impossible to write anything in libre office 
writer with a screen keyboard?
When it comes to forgetting my Laptop, convergence and stuff 
like that, I can not. First of all because of the Libre Office. 
And then... sadly all "the others" use Skype and What's app. I 
even have to contact my boss through whats app, send pictures 
etc. I think only this two apps would bring Ubuntu phone and 
tablet many thousands or millions users. As far as now we are 
only crazy geeks ;-) who don't follow the mainstream :-)))
Cheers 


Marcin - well known GTrider


  From: Mitchell Reese 
 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net 
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:34 AM

 Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions
   
Hi people, thought I'd post up a few initial impressions with the FHD M10 
tablet. Have had it for a couple days now and been putting it through it's 
paces. All up - great job! Awesome hardware, and the system is lots of fun 
to use.


Firstly, I'm typing this in desktop mode paired top a Logitech 
keyboard and 
hp bluetooth mouse. Keyboard works flawlessly, mouse works best 
when one or 
two apps are open. More causes it to stutter.


Have tried an external display a couple times - works great both with a 
projector and smaller tv monitor. 

Overall the tablet works well, and is shaping up to be a great experience. 
Here are a few bugs I found so far - feel free to let me know the best 
place to report them and I'll post them up.


1. Mouse gets very laggy when more than a couple apps are open - very hard 
to scroll, let alone move it anywhere. Is this hardware related (i.e., not 
enough power yet), or OS (i.e., still being optimised)?
2. Switching between apps in desktop mode is very slow - worse with a 
mouse, however still slow with touch if more than a couple apps are open. 
Again - is this hardware or OS related?
3. Bug in initial download of the updated 10.1 ota - couldn't 
do it until I 
changed the timezone to manually with my location. 
4. Love the sidestage, however took me time to work out that I needed to 
tap with three fingers on the screen to dismiss it. Very slick now, but 
without saying this somewhere, it's difficult to figure out. Would be best 
on the instructions on the side stage when no app is there to say this, or 
at the very least the first time it's run.
5. In general, the system still has a fair bit of lag - noticeable when 
switching scopes, and watching videos while streaming (youtube, 
etc.) Again 
- OS or software related?
6. X11 apps are confusing. The gui is different (ouch! So 
small!!), and 
on screen keyboard doesn't work with them. Imho, I think there should be a 
seperate 'legacy apps' scope. Bundling them together with other apps that 
work great (Dekko, Unav, etc.) gives the impression they should also work 
as well. They don't.
7. Libreoffice is usable with a keyboard and mouse, but the font for all 
the settings is miniscule. This makes it painful to read. Would 
be great if 
there was some way to manually change this.
8. GPS doesn't work with the tablet - the daemon seems to continually be 
restarting, making it unusable. The only option has been to disable it 
entirely. Have filed a bug for this.


All up though, a great experience. There's no way in it's 
current form this 
table t can serve as a desktop - even my aging ultrabook - replacement. 
That said, working within it's current limitations, I've only opened my 
laptop a couple times since having it. Great job people - I'm looking 
forward to seeing where this goes.


Mitchell








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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions

[Mitchell Reese]

Thats encouraging to hear! Playing about with libertine - how did you get 
nautilus and the sdk installed? Did you create a seperate container, use 
puritane, or install with apt-get?


Mitchell

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 2:58:57 PM AEST, nick luigi eusebio 
 wrote:
Just an input from a Nexus 7 user.#1 must be a bug. That tablet 
has way more powerful hardware than Nexus 7 and I don't 
encounter too much lag when multiple apps are open. Yeah some 
stutters and slow down happens but not really noticeable. I 
actually tested convergence yesterday and Xmir is now working 
decently on it and got Firefox, Nautilus and Ubuntu SDK running 
simultaneously without much lag though I don't interacted with 
them that much.


  From: Mitchell Reese 
 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net 
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 12:34 PM

 Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions
   
Hi people, thought I'd post up a few initial impressions with the FHD M10 
tablet. Have had it for a couple days now and been putting it through it's 
paces. All up - great job! Awesome hardware, and the system is lots of fun 
to use.


Firstly, I'm typing this in desktop mode paired top a Logitech 
keyboard and 
hp bluetooth mouse. Keyboard works flawlessly, mouse works best 
when one or 
two apps are open. More causes it to stutter.


Have tried an external display a couple times - works great both with a 
projector and smaller tv monitor. 

Overall the tablet works well, and is shaping up to be a great experience. 
Here are a few bugs I found so far - feel free to let me know the best 
place to report them and I'll post them up.


1. Mouse gets very laggy when more than a couple apps are open - very hard 
to scroll, let alone move it anywhere. Is this hardware related (i.e., not 
enough power yet), or OS (i.e., still being optimised)?
2. Switching between apps in desktop mode is very slow - worse with a 
mouse, however still slow with touch if more than a couple apps are open. 
Again - is this hardware or OS related?
3. Bug in initial download of the updated 10.1 ota - couldn't 
do it until I 
changed the timezone to manually with my location. 
4. Love the sidestage, however took me time to work out that I needed to 
tap with three fingers on the screen to dismiss it. Very slick now, but 
without saying this somewhere, it's difficult to figure out. Would be best 
on the instructions on the side stage when no app is there to say this, or 
at the very least the first time it's run.
5. In general, the system still has a fair bit of lag - noticeable when 
switching scopes, and watching videos while streaming (youtube, 
etc.) Again 
- OS or software related?
6. X11 apps are confusing. The gui is different (ouch! So 
small!!), and 
on screen keyboard doesn't work with them. Imho, I think there should be a 
seperate 'legacy apps' scope. Bundling them together with other apps that 
work great (Dekko, Unav, etc.) gives the impression they should also work 
as well. They don't.
7. Libreoffice is usable with a keyboard and mouse, but the font for all 
the settings is miniscule. This makes it painful to read. Would 
be great if 
there was some way to manually change this.
8. GPS doesn't work with the tablet - the daemon seems to continually be 
restarting, making it unusable. The only option has been to disable it 
entirely. Have filed a bug for this.


All up though, a great experience. There's no way in it's 
current form this 
table t can serve as a desktop - even my aging ultrabook - replacement. 
That said, working within it's current limitations, I've only opened my 
laptop a couple times since having it. Great job people - I'm looking 
forward to seeing where this goes.


Mitchell








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[Ubuntu-phone] M10 Tablet - First Impressions

[Mitchell Reese]

Hi people, thought I'd post up a few initial impressions with the FHD M10 
tablet. Have had it for a couple days now and been putting it through it's 
paces. All up - great job! Awesome hardware, and the system is lots of fun 
to use.


Firstly, I'm typing this in desktop mode paired top a Logitech keyboard and 
hp bluetooth mouse. Keyboard works flawlessly, mouse works best when one or 
two apps are open. More causes it to stutter.


Have tried an external display a couple times - works great both with a 
projector and smaller tv monitor. 

Overall the tablet works well, and is shaping up to be a great experience. 
Here are a few bugs I found so far - feel free to let me know the best 
place to report them and I'll post them up.


1. Mouse gets very laggy when more than a couple apps are open - very hard 
to scroll, let alone move it anywhere. Is this hardware related (i.e., not 
enough power yet), or OS (i.e., still being optimised)?
2. Switching between apps in desktop mode is very slow - worse with a 
mouse, however still slow with touch if more than a couple apps are open. 
Again - is this hardware or OS related?
3. Bug in initial download of the updated 10.1 ota - couldn't do it until I 
changed the timezone to manually with my location. 
4. Love the sidestage, however took me time to work out that I needed to 
tap with three fingers on the screen to dismiss it. Very slick now, but 
without saying this somewhere, it's difficult to figure out. Would be best 
on the instructions on the side stage when no app is there to say this, or 
at the very least the first time it's run.
5. In general, the system still has a fair bit of lag - noticeable when 
switching scopes, and watching videos while streaming (youtube, etc.) Again 
- OS or software related?
6. X11 apps are confusing. The gui is different (ouch! So small!!), and 
on screen keyboard doesn't work with them. Imho, I think there should be a 
seperate 'legacy apps' scope. Bundling them together with other apps that 
work great (Dekko, Unav, etc.) gives the impression they should also work 
as well. They don't.
7. Libreoffice is usable with a keyboard and mouse, but the font for all 
the settings is miniscule. This makes it painful to read. Would be great if 
there was some way to manually change this.
8. GPS doesn't work with the tablet - the daemon seems to continually be 
restarting, making it unusable. The only option has been to disable it 
entirely. Have filed a bug for this.


All up though, a great experience. There's no way in it's current form this 
table t can serve as a desktop - even my aging ultrabook - replacement. 
That said, working within it's current limitations, I've only opened my 
laptop a couple times since having it. Great job people - I'm looking 
forward to seeing where this goes.


Mitchell




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Screenshot on Aquaris M10

[Mitchell Reese]

Thanks for that - sorted now. Very slick looking welcome screen!

Mitchell

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 11:46:15 AM AEST, Michael Zanetti 
 wrote:

On the device, you can do:

rm ~/.config/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-has-run*

Br,
Michael

On 23.04.2016 03:43, Mitchell Reese wrote:

phablet-config: command not found.

M

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 11:34:18 AM AEST, Nathan Haines
 wrote:

On 04/22/2016 06:28 PM, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Is there a command directly from the device?


Yes.  The command is 'phablet-config welcome-wizard --enable'.  You
run it directly on the device.











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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Screenshot on Aquaris M10

[Mitchell Reese]

phablet-config: command not found.

M

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 11:34:18 AM AEST, Nathan Haines 
 wrote:

On 04/22/2016 06:28 PM, Mitchell Reese wrote:

Is there a command directly from the device?


Yes.  The command is 'phablet-config welcome-wizard --enable'.  You run 
it directly on the device.






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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Screenshot on Aquaris M10

[Mitchell Reese]

Is there a command directly from the device?

M

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 11:17:12 AM AEST, Nathan Haines 
 wrote:

On 04/22/2016 05:54 PM, Jonathan Meek wrote:

I noticed this issue but didn't realize there was a fix for it. Seeing
as I've already set up my tablet completely is there anyway to fix this
in situ?


Yes, 'phablet-config welcome-wizard --enable' will rerun the welcome 
experience wizard.






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