Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Phone and Unity dead?

2017-04-10 Thread Unix One
On 04/10/2017 05:39 AM, NeoTheThird wrote:
> 64bit and snaps are definitely on the whislist, but we're still working
> hard to get the fork up and running, before we can add or remove
> features, so don't expect us to have a working snap image out the door
> by tomorrow. :)

How will the yunit-ubports collaboration be structured? Will the work be 
happening in https://github.com/yunit-io/yunit and 
https://github.com/ubports/unity8 will become the fork of that, or will 
there be multiple branches in the former, or some other structure that 
makes sense? Or has not not been decided yet? I just saw a single forum 
post [0] but it was unclear what the decision was.

[0] https://forums.ubports.com/category/36/yunit

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Freedom

2017-04-05 Thread Unix One
On 04/05/2017 11:34 AM, Seth Ciango wrote:

>   * How difficult would a switch to GNOME be and how long would it take?

I'm not sure this is the right path - I'm not sure how much GNOME has 
for mobile/touch interfaces. I think Qt/QML was the right choice, just 
not Unity/Mir - which ended up too much of an undertaking. I guess I 
wish there was more collaboration and standardization among different 
parties instead of everyone doing their own thing - Canonical, 
Sailfish/Jolla, Plasma Mobile.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is ubuntu phone resistant to vault 7 attacks?

2017-03-11 Thread Unix One
On 03/11/2017 02:57 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> the port is closed by default, the only way this is not the case is
> because you either once called "android-gadget-service enable ssh" or
> hacked around on the phone in writable mode to turn it on.

As Rodney suggested in the other response in this thread, the SDK ran 
that command on my behalf. I liked his idea of limiting the interfaces 
it's bound to.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is ubuntu phone resistant to vault 7 attacks?

2017-03-09 Thread Unix One
On 03/09/2017 11:53 AM, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> You used the SDK or phablet-shell tool to connect to the device over
> ssh, which enabled it. It is not enabled by default on phones, even
> when developer mode gets enabled. It also only accepts key based login,
> and a unique key is generated for this when you use the SDK or phablet-
> shell command to connect over ssh.

Aha! Yes - I did indeed use the SDK for development. That makes sense.

> Really, it should be only bound on "local" interfaces, and not the
> cellular modem connection.

+1, and maybe additionally - if SDK/IDE turns it on when it needs it, it 
should also turn it off when it's done.

> Yes, you would need to disable ssh with android-gadget-service, to
> disable it.

Thanks for the tip!
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is ubuntu phone resistant to vault 7 attacks?

2017-03-09 Thread Unix One
On 03/09/2017 05:56 AM, A. James Lewis wrote:
> The ports you mention don't appear to be open on a default build, with the 
> exception of 53, which surprises me, but still, it is only bound to loopback, 
> so it would be hard to attack remotely.

What do you mean by "default build"? I'm on rc-proposed on mako and 22 
is open on 0.0.0.0. I don't believe I've done anything to cause this. 
Disabling the developer mode doesn't make it go away.

The service identifies itself as SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.7p1 
Ubuntu-5ubuntu1.4. It looks like it doesn't accept ssh password logins, 
but the port should still be closed by default.

To fix for now I opened the terminal and ran `sudo service ssh stop`, 
the port is no longer open. But I'm guessing it will start again when 
the phone is rebooted.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu at MWC in Barcelona

2017-02-27 Thread Unix One
On 02/26/2017 11:05 AM, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-02-26 at 18:09 +0000, Unix One wrote:
>> As for Ubuntu Touch phones, since 100% of existing phone devices are
>> 32-bit, there are no 64-bit phones even being planned (at least
>> publicly), wiping 32-bit future official support outright alienates
>> the
>> core power users and developers - i.e. pretty much everyone - in a
>> frustrating way.
>
> Both the BQ M10 tablet and Meizu Pro 5 phone are 64-bit hardware. The
> userland is currently only 32-bit there, because arm64 was not
> supported on 15.04, which the current phone/tablet images are based on.
> That would reduce your figure to 60% (if you're only talking official
> retail devices, or 50% if counting both M10 FHD/HD separately).
>

I'm sorry! I take the 100% number back. But talking about phones 
(different use case from tablets entirely) specifically, I wasn't sure 
Meizu Pro 5 accounted for 20% of all existing phone devices; I'd thought 
that number would be somewhere in a single digit percentage. Are you 
counting % against available device models, or % of physical devices 
currently in the hands of users?

Regardless, assuming the Meizu Pro 5 will continue to receive 
64-bit/snap updates (which I haven't officially seen confirmed either), 
the rest of the statement - potentially alienating 80% of phone users - 
stands.

On a personal side note, I really enjoy Qt+QML development, but my 
choices are - a Meizu Pro 5 degraded coverage (radio frequencies) from 
an unreputable online seller in $300-$500 range, or another 
refurbished/used mako which won't be updated. It feels like I've been 
backed into a corner.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu at MWC in Barcelona

2017-02-26 Thread Unix One
On 02/24/2017 12:10 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 18:28 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>> It is, because the click pkg are EOL and the snap require 64-bit
>
> No. Anyone should be able to create snap based images for 32-bit
> devices if they wish. However, I think as only new devices coming to
> market at this point are really going to be 64-bit, the goal is to only
> support 64-bit for official device images. For example, see the
> discussions previously about no longer building final release ISOs of
> Ubuntu for i386, or how there haven't been ones for PowerPC for a while
> now. However, both of those architectures are still built in the
> archive, and some derivatives still build releases for those
> architectures.

In my mind, this logic makes complete sense, as it does for Ubuntu i386 
example, if most devices on the market are 64-bit and it is of very 
little benefit to support older hardware via official channels. In fact, 
Ubuntu has indeed officially supported i386 concurrently with 64-bit 
during many years of transition.

As for Ubuntu Touch phones, since 100% of existing phone devices are 
32-bit, there are no 64-bit phones even being planned (at least 
publicly), wiping 32-bit future official support outright alienates the 
core power users and developers - i.e. pretty much everyone - in a 
frustrating way.

Sure, community could decide to backport Ubuntu Touch updates to legacy 
phones (has anyone volunteered/committed to doing so?), or they could 
decide to move on and do something else completely different instead 
with their time.

I guess personally for me, MWC is the last glimmer of hope - a miracle 
announcement of a modern 64-bit dev phone to replace mako, but I don't 
know how much I'd be willing to bet on that.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: Re: Bugs in Ubuntu Touch OTA-15

2017-02-19 Thread Unix One
On 02/19/2017 01:16 AM, Mark Raymond wrote:
> 64-bit CPUs in phones is fairly common now, I'm surprised Fairphone 2 isn't 
> 64-bit.

Fortunately, all this is relatively easily searchable/findable.

Fairphone 2 was first released in 2015, and it uses Snapdragon 801 [0], 
which was announced (and released?) in 2014 and is definitely 32-bit [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairphone_2
[1] https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801
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[Ubuntu-phone] Broken nexus 4, phone recommendations?

2017-01-18 Thread Unix One
Hello list,

Few days ago I dropped my Nexus 4 which rendered the bottom portion of 
the screen to no longer recognize swipes. I use my phone as

- my main phone (email, phone, contacts, texts, RSS, music including 
bluetooth, podcasts, etc.)
- development device for casual development (I have 1 small app)
- tethering device for my laptop (USB tether)

I also enjoyed relative stability and bleeding edge combination by being 
on rc-proposed channel but now I can't use significant functionality of 
many apps because of the broken screen.

Should I:

- get another Nexus 4
- get Nexus 5
- get Meizu MX5 android version
- wait to see if there are any announcements during MWC in February
- give up on Ubuntu Touch device for now

I'm in the USA, using T-Mobile network (so not sure about Meizu). What 
would you recommend - what would you do?

Request: please don't turn this into another roadmap discussion thread; 
I'm genuinely curious what people would suggest I do.

Thank you!
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Viewing larger images from MMS no longer works?

2017-01-09 Thread Unix One
On 01/09/2017 05:47 AM, Pat McGowan wrote:
> I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1655022
> This is a regression on proposed, works fine in stable.

Excellent, thank you!

On a side note, I was looking at messaging-app code and discovered it 
was mostly written in QML (and not C++) - cool!

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[Ubuntu-phone] Viewing larger images from MMS no longer works?

2017-01-08 Thread Unix One
Hello list,

I'm on mako rc-proposed. I remember awhile (few weeks?) ago I was able 
to view large/full images by tapping smaller MMS previews in Messaging 
app thread view. Then from there I could zoom in/out/save/etc.

Tapping on MMS image previews no longer has any effect, however. I've 
tried this on multiple contacts threads - the behavior is the same for 
both sent and received MMS images.

I don't know exactly when it broke. Is anyone else experiencing this 
issue, or possibly has a workaround or a solution to get the full image 
view back?

Thank you!
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tethering with Nexus 4 mako

2016-12-15 Thread Unix One
On 11/02/2016 03:13 AM, Sam Bull wrote:
>> 2. USB tether: I change USB mode in TweakGeek from media to network;
>> connect to laptop using USB cable; my Ubuntu 16.04 recognizes
>> network
>> device, tries to establish network connection for few minutes and
>> eventually gives up.
>
> I believe this is supposed to work. But, I had the same problem as you
> when I tried it a few weeks ago.
>

Using the steps here - 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/607073/tetherings-not-running-in-ubuntu-touch-how-to-solve-it#757677
 
- I was able to get USB tethering to work on mako rc-proposed channel - yay:

0. enable developer mode
1. make system image writable (I did it with UT Tweak Tool)
2. it will ask you to reboot - do it
3. sudo sed -i -e 's/rndis0/usb0/g' /usr/bin/tethering
4. go to UT Tweak Tool and set ADB mode to RNDIS (the device may reboot 
on its own; not sure if it's a crash or expected)
5. after reboot go to UT Tweak Tool again and set the ADB mode to RNDIS 
again; this time it shouldn't reboot
6. sudo tethering enable
7. connect to computer via USB cable: it should be detected as a network 
device and connection should succeed, resulting in a successful tether

Steps 0-3 only need to be done once; steps 4-6 after every reboot or 
changing ADB mode.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] USB Tethering of Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition

2016-12-11 Thread Unix One
On 12/10/2016 05:34 AM, Stephen wrote:
> I've enabled rndis (via terminal, or Tweakgeek) - using OTA14
>
> However the network manager on my Ubuntu 16.04 laptop shows "Ethernet
> Network (Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition)" greyed out (disconnected).
>

FYI, here's my message about a similar behavior on mako (Nexus 4) from 
about a month ago - 
https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg22752.html - it would seem 
like it's not device specific and it's a bug in software.


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[Ubuntu-phone] Icon/artwork to link to app store + redirect behavior

2016-11-20 Thread Unix One
Hello list,

I finally published my first app to the app store this weekend. I was 
looking for a good way to link from the website to the store, but I 
couldn't find any kind of recommended artwork or HTML snippet to do so. 
So this is what I ended up doing - https://bartist.org (button at the 
bottom)

Would it make sense to have:

- some icons/artwork and/or HTML snippet that says "get it on Ubuntu 
Touch" or something similar to Google play and Apple's app store that 
many websites have: see here - https://www.bart.gov/schedules/appcenter 
for a bunch of them

- a redirector on the Canonical server side that either goes to the app 
in the store (if using an Ubuntu device) or shows a web page for all 
other traffic

On the other hand, maybe that's a feature for uappexplorer since the 
official store doesn't have any web interface [yet]?

Just throwing out some ideas. Thank you.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK Question

2016-11-19 Thread Unix One
On 11/15/2016 01:30 PM, Roman Shchekin wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Did somebody note that ActivityIndicator component became invisible with
> the latest official update?
> Example code:
> ...
>
> ActivityIndicator{
>
> running:true
>
> anchors.horizontalCenter:parent.horizontalCenter
>
> }

No, I'm using ActivityIndicator and it's working fine for me. I'm on the 
latest rc-proposed on mako.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Tethering with Nexus 4 mako

2016-11-02 Thread Unix One
On 11/02/2016 04:46 AM, Jonas Drange wrote:
> It sort of works if there's no authentication required to join the
> hotspot, but that's, of course, not recommended.
>

Hi, could you please explain how to enable/un-blacklist the feature on 
mako so I can give this a shot? I'm on rc-proposed channel. Thank you!

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[Ubuntu-phone] Tethering with Nexus 4 mako

2016-11-01 Thread Unix One
Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone has figured out how to use Nexus 4 (mako) 
for tethering the internet connection. These are the options as I see them:

1. Wifi tether: some time ago I got a response on IRC that it's 
blacklisted because it doesn't work on mako; and I confirm that I see no 
such option in settings.

2. USB tether: I change USB mode in TweakGeek from media to network; 
connect to laptop using USB cable; my Ubuntu 16.04 recognizes network 
device, tries to establish network connection for few minutes and 
eventually gives up.

3. Bluetooth tethering: I don't know how that's possible at all.

So, has anyone succeeded in any way? Or do bugs already exist (I 
couldn't find them) for these features?

Thank you!
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[Ubuntu-phone] Hide "Pull to refresh" under a row above in QML

2016-10-05 Thread Unix One
Hello,

I posted this question on stackoverflow with no traction:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39825999/listview-pulltorefresh-hide-pull-to-refresh-string-under-a-row-above
so maybe someone here can help.

Briefly, I have a QML Column which contains 2 Rows. The first Row has a 
Button. The 2nd Row has a ListView with PullToRefresh. No matter what I 
tried I can't make the string "Pull to refresh" hide under the 1st Row 
so it slides out from under it when the list in the 2nd Row is pulled.

Minimal code to reproduce and bit more details are in that stackoverflow 
link. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you!
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Owncloud Sync

2016-09-20 Thread Unix One
On 09/20/2016 12:58 PM, Daniel wrote:

> However trying to use my host prae.cloud.me there is an error message
> "invalid host".

Let's see:

~$ dig @8.8.8.8 prae.cloud.me | grep HEADER
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56373
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 25819

NXDOMAIN = the host name doesn't resolve. Is that your correct host 
name? Did you set up DNS correctly?

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] basename: missing operand

2016-06-20 Thread Unix One
On 06/19/2016 11:46 PM, nick luigi eusebio wrote:
> Well that's a suggestion from another developer :)
> It's so much easier doing so and doesn't really affect your phone badly.
> I think it's okay to test only on stable and not yet on rc-proposed.
> Actually the best way for me is to test on a tablet since you can resize
> your app in it and even use in windowed mode without the need of an
> external display.
> I guess there's no tablet emulator yet available though.

OK, thanks for the suggestions. I don't own the tablet, but if I can't 
get the emulators to work, I'll have to use the phone.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] basename: missing operand

2016-06-20 Thread Unix One
On 06/19/2016 02:46 AM, nick luigi eusebio wrote:
> You should use your phone for testing.

Should the developer documentation say that then? Because it's currently 
recommending using emulators.

Also, even if a developer has a device for testing, they might want to 
test on stable, as well as development/rc or other channels, or 
different screen sizes and architectures. That is one use case where 
emulators are useful.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] basename: missing operand

2016-06-19 Thread Unix One
On 06/19/2016 02:43 AM, Bertrand CHEVRIER wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think I'm in the same situation, the emulators just don't start after
> eating all my CPU for a while.
> I thought it was because of my limited hardware on vivid, but with your
> message it seems it's in the emulators themselves.
>
> It's really an issue for an app developers, for now I'm testing my
> developments only against the desktop mode. I've a bq 5, but it's my
> main phone and I don't want to screw it by testing apps on it.
>
> Let's see how it goes. If one can also let us how we can help, that
> would be great!
>

Thanks for confirming. I'm glad I'm not crazy, or the only one seeing 
this. I think it's crucial to get emulators working. If for nothing 
else, it's a sane way to test multiple architectures, versions, etc.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] basename: missing operand

2016-06-18 Thread Unix One
Hello,

Has no one else encountered this, am I missing something obvious, or 
maybe I didn't provide enough details, or maybe this isn't the right 
list to ask this question?

Here are some more details just in case:
- the host is 16.04 fresh install
- hardware: Dell XPS 13 9350 with Intel HD graphics
- I followed SDK installation steps here: 
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/platform/sdk/installing-the-sdk/
- I followed emulator creation/start instructions in the links I already 
provided
- I tried creating emulators for armhf with both development and stable 
channels, e.g. sudo ubuntu-emulator create myinstance
- and then try to run it with: ubuntu-emulator run myinstance

Here's the `ubuntu-emulator list` output, which lists 3 different 
instances I tried:
$ ubuntu-emulator list
myinstance  ubuntu=20151127,device=20150910,custom=20151127,version=2
testarm 
ubuntu=20160506,device=20160401.1,custom=20160506,tag=OTA-10.1,version=19
testarm2ubuntu=20151127,device=20150910,custom=20151127,version=2

I'd be extremely grateful if someone could help or at least point me in 
the right direction.

Thank you!

On 06/16/2016 07:40 AM, Unix One wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to Ubuntu Touch development and setting up the SDK, and I feel a
> bit dumb unable to get the emulator to launch successfully. It starts
> with the new window, and after few minutes hangs consuming 100% of a CPU
> core, with these last few lines in the log:
>
> [   54.54] systemd-logind[942]: New seat seat0.
> [   54.99] init: force-adb pre-start process (627) terminated with
> status 1
> [   56.39] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> [   64.25] systemd-logind[942]: Failed to start user service:
> Unknown unit: user@0.service
> [   65.60] systemd-logind[942]: New session c1 of user root.
> [   72.56] init: ssh-keygen main process (1289) terminated with status 1
> [   76.90] init: failsafe main process (1073) killed by TERM signal
> [   81.85] systemd-logind[942]: Failed to start user service:
> Unknown unit: user@32011.service
>* Setting up X socket directories...
> [ OK ]
> /lib/init/init-d-script: 12: /etc/rc2.d/S02whoopsie: -c: not found
> basename: missing operand
> Try 'basename --help' for more information.
>
> I've tried both
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
> and now
> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2016/06/14/calling-testers-new-ubuntu-sdk-ide-post/
> with the same result.
>
> Searching for answers I found:
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/725085/running-ubuntu-touch-emulator-failing
> (unanswered)
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/lxc-android-config/+bug/1458043
> (saying it's fixed in overlay)
>
> Is it known/expected that following the instructions in emulator wiki
> will land me in this state? Should I be using the overlay? Or am I
> missing something else?
>
> Thank you!
>


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