Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[Tom Rausner]

On tirsdag den 21. februar 2017 17.10.16 CET, Matthias Apitz 
 wrote:
El día Tuesday, February 21, 2017 a las 03:47:51PM +, Paul 
Tait escribió:


phone has become very unreliable. Constant Unity/Scopes 
crashing as well as 
regular OS restarts have made the phone a nightmare to use. 


NAK. Me and my family run three BQ E4.5 OTA-15 devices as the daily
phone, I since April 2015, my wife for moths and my son now too. All do
fine, apart of smaller issues (like Dekko not saving sent mail to IMAP
Sent folder, and the like).

I run my device in addition all days 18 hours as Wifi AP
to Internet for my FreeBSD netbook and have never problems with
this. Using web browser for listening audio life streams, reading mail
and sending with Dekko, Telegram, uNav with OpenStreetMap offline tiles ...
these are more or less my daily use case. 


Overall a fine device!

matthias


I have a BQ E5 as my only phone for about a year and a half now. In that 
time I've had only very minor annoyances. Then about a month ago it 
starting acti g out a little (problems with keyboard, loss of signal). I 
wiped it and broughed it back to factory setting and now it's working even 
better than it did out of the box! It seems every phone has its own story.


Tom




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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[Gareth France]

On 21/02/17 16:10, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Overall a fine device!

matthias
Generally I agree, but my phone obviously required a reflash. It was 
going from bad to worse and I couldn't reflash it as it kept erroring 
and quitting the reflash. I appealed for help but got no responses at 
all, a number of times. So really it is the lack of momentum on this 
group which forced me out, rather than the handset or the software.


No criticism of anybody, but I suspect we are at a point in the 
lifecycle where it just isn't working. There's no momentum behind the 
public facing side of the project. Until the changes are complete and 
the next evolution of the software is out and new handsets are released 
I can understand why the frantic activity we used to see in here has 
relaxed.


I for one am looking forward to getting my hands on the next version. 
Then we can pick up where we left off.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[Gareth France]

On 21/02/17 15:47, Paul Tait wrote:

How is the phone with Android? How does it compare in regards to speed,
responsiveness and battery? Very tempted myself but afraid that once I've
put Android on, I can never go back and it may not be any better.
Well, I only reflashed the phone at lunch so it's a bit early to say. So 
far I can say that I hate it, it is not intuitive, the bits that should 
swipe don't swipe and I have no idea what buttons to push. I really 
miss  Ubuntu.


Surprisingly the handsfree on my car stereo still doesn't work. I'm 
starting to wonder if the microphone might be faulty. I can properly 
make phone calls again so it's solving the biggest problem I've had 
recently.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[Gerd Sänger]

Am 21.02.2017 um 17:10 schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> El día Tuesday, February 21, 2017 a las 03:47:51PM +, Paul Tait escribió:
> 
>> I don't think you're alone. I'm thinking about doing the same. I agree the 
>> phone has become very unreliable. Constant Unity/Scopes crashing as well as 
>> regular OS restarts have made the phone a nightmare to use. The new power 
>> manager has also brought back the sudden and inexplicable power drains. 
>>
>> ...
> 
> NAK. Me and my family run three BQ E4.5 OTA-15 devices as the daily
> phone, I since April 2015, my wife for moths and my son now too. All do
> fine, apart of smaller issues (like Dekko not saving sent mail to IMAP
> Sent folder, and the like).
> 
> I run my device in addition all days 18 hours as Wifi AP
> to Internet for my FreeBSD netbook and have never problems with
> this. Using web browser for listening audio life streams, reading mail
> and sending with Dekko, Telegram, uNav with OpenStreetMap offline tiles ...
> these are more or less my daily use case. 
> 
> Overall a fine device!
> 
>   matthias
> 
Although it is bit sad, that the evolution target now is only on snap.
But the finally given explanation for doing so is reasonable fo me.

The BQ 4.5 is running stable as my daily companion since April 2015. No
complaints. I will cling to it and to this list. Hope it will not be too
far away, that a new snap-capable device will be brought up.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Tuesday, February 21, 2017 a las 03:47:51PM +, Paul Tait escribió:

> I don't think you're alone. I'm thinking about doing the same. I agree the 
> phone has become very unreliable. Constant Unity/Scopes crashing as well as 
> regular OS restarts have made the phone a nightmare to use. The new power 
> manager has also brought back the sudden and inexplicable power drains. 
> 
> ...

NAK. Me and my family run three BQ E4.5 OTA-15 devices as the daily
phone, I since April 2015, my wife for moths and my son now too. All do
fine, apart of smaller issues (like Dekko not saving sent mail to IMAP
Sent folder, and the like).

I run my device in addition all days 18 hours as Wifi AP
to Internet for my FreeBSD netbook and have never problems with
this. Using web browser for listening audio life streams, reading mail
and sending with Dekko, Telegram, uNav with OpenStreetMap offline tiles ...
these are more or less my daily use case. 

Overall a fine device!

matthias

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[Paul Tait]

I don't think you're alone. I'm thinking about doing the same. I agree the 
phone has become very unreliable. Constant Unity/Scopes crashing as well as 
regular OS restarts have made the phone a nightmare to use. The new power 
manager has also brought back the sudden and inexplicable power drains. 

Just yesterday my phone was at 90%. When I checked again an hour later, it 
was off. No warnings, it just totally drained the battery and turned off, 
despite being almost fully charged. It's a shame that we can't go back to 
the old power manager (pre OTA 12?) as at least that was more stable. 

How is the phone with Android? How does it compare in regards to speed, 
responsiveness and battery? Very tempted myself but afraid that once I've 
put Android on, I can never go back and it may not be any better. 

On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:33:21 GMT, wrote:
> Yes it's true, I've gone over to the dark side! Today I reflashed my 
> E4.5 with android. In recent months it has become literally unusable. 


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[Ubuntu-phone] Not quite goodbye, but I'm leaving

[gareth . france]

Yes it's true, I've gone over to the dark side! Today I reflashed my 
E4.5 with android. In recent months it has become literally unusable. I 
am unable to put the phone down, I am unable to push buttons whilst in a 
call and I have run totally out of space even though I am not really 
using any!


This morning my alarms did not go off and my bluetooth headset would not 
pair, caused it seems by the lack of space. My phone also refuses to 
reflash with UT.


So due to a combination of lack of discussion of these issues here, 
confirmation support for these devices will end and the fact my device 
won't run the next gen ubuntu I have decided now is the time to jump 
ship, at least until I can afford a new phone.


I still remain committed to the system but it is clear my device is has 
now run its course.


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