Re: Facebook Page
On 19/08/12 16:14, Ho Wan Chan wrote: We do need, I think, advertising for QA. I agree that we need advertising. I fail to see how a private group is going to do that for us. Gema -- Gema Gomez-Solanogema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com Ubuntu QA Team https://launchpad.net/~gema.gomez Canonical Ltd. http://www.canonical.com -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Facebook Page
Hi Gema, there is on Facebook a subtle but important difference between open, private hidden. A private group is advertised to all, but requires acceptance to join. The reason I chose private is that it does reduce the attacks by spammers. As we all have better things to do than run around cleaning up after spammers, that is why I chose private. I'm no FB expert and simply based things on an existing and quietly successful FB group [1]. Regards, Phill. 1. https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ On 20 August 2012 08:17, Gema Gomez gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote: On 19/08/12 16:14, Ho Wan Chan wrote: We do need, I think, advertising for QA. I agree that we need advertising. I fail to see how a private group is going to do that for us. Gema -- Gema Gomez-Solanogema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com Ubuntu QA Team https://launchpad.net/~gema.gomez Canonical Ltd. http://www.canonical.com -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Facebook Page
Well, we want to PROMOTE QA, right? Then what is the point of making it private? Everybody will saw that it's private, say Uh...No and walk away. Not the best idea. Regards, smartboyhw 2012/8/20 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com Hi Gema, there is on Facebook a subtle but important difference between open, private hidden. A private group is advertised to all, but requires acceptance to join. The reason I chose private is that it does reduce the attacks by spammers. As we all have better things to do than run around cleaning up after spammers, that is why I chose private. I'm no FB expert and simply based things on an existing and quietly successful FB group [1]. Regards, Phill. 1. https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ On 20 August 2012 08:17, Gema Gomez gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.comwrote: On 19/08/12 16:14, Ho Wan Chan wrote: We do need, I think, advertising for QA. I agree that we need advertising. I fail to see how a private group is going to do that for us. Gema -- Gema Gomez-Solanogema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com Ubuntu QA Team https://launchpad.net/~gema.gomez Canonical Ltd. http://www.canonical.com -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Seeking some advice
Hi Greg, After some questioning, this is the result... (12:29:44) phillw: Hi folks, could some one please advise as to against what this bug should be reported...http://pastebin.com/SRLnr5fB (12:30:21) tjaalton: the kernel (12:30:52) phillw: tjaalton: thanks! (12:31:41) tjaalton: although (12:32:04) tjaalton: what does get live session working mean (12:32:06) tjaalton: ? (12:32:46) phillw: it means that the tester has to insert nomode to get it to run? (12:32:58) phillw: In my distinctly amateur opinion I'd suspect nvidia-graphics-drivers since it could well be fallout from the new X stack. (12:33:04) tjaalton: no (12:33:11) tjaalton: you don't have that on a live-cd (12:34:03) phillw: okies, so it is a kernel regression? (12:34:17) tjaalton: phillw: not necessarily (12:34:54) tjaalton: is there a boot splash? does X start but hang later? (12:36:43) phillw: I'm surmising from the tester that he needs to alter the boot sequence to get X to actually run. Once he knows where to file the bug, he will be able to give more information. He's an experienced tester, just unsure as to what to report this one against. (12:37:04) tjaalton: ubuntu-bug xorg (12:37:14) phillw: thanks. (12:37:18) tjaalton: that's a good place to start.. When filing the bug, please do answer the question about the presence, or lack, of the splash screen. Thanks, Phill. On 20 August 2012 03:47, Greg Faith gregfa...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the situation. I am using a live persistent USB of the Lubuntu quantal desktop amd64 20120819 to run live and install test cases. Presently I using a Dell D620 and Lenovo T61p to do full hardware installs. The Dell D620 boots up live with no problem, but the Lenovo with nvidia graphics requires me to set F6 nomodeset to get the Live session working. Now with all that said a week ago I did not have to set the nomodeset on the Lenovo to get the live session working. It is not really a big problem for me as I have worked through the issue, but I can see where a new user with a Lenovo kit with nvidia graphic might have a difficult time. I guess I am wondering should a bug be filed against the kernel as it appear to be a regression? Greg nm_geo -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Nvidia Driver Woes
Some folks ran into this over the weekend, and I've heard enough about it that I thought a mail wouldn't hurt :-) For those running quantal, a new X stack has landed that breaks the nvidia driver. For now, the driver has been disabled. Read more: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035635.html Options are to revert to nouveau or avoid the upgrade (if you haven't yet :-) ) If this affected you, feel free to post if you need help in recovering your system :-) Nicholas -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Facebook Page
I would point out and clarify I don't want to see any technical discussion moved off this list and migrating somewhere else -- I don't think we're at risk of that happening. The FB and g+ pages will serve as open-ended ads to point back to the group and it's normal communication channels. With that said, I also am not a big FB fan. I don't even have an account (and fyi, I won't be joining the group for that reason) :-) However, I am happy to see those who participate in that social medium putting forth an effort to reach others in the same medium. In other words, if your a big ubuntu forums poster, I'd love to see you add a link to information about the ubuntu qa team in your signature, and perhaps open threads about it. If your into reddit, post, comment, and upvote QA stuff. If your a blogger (or even if your not!), consider blogging about the team and your work on it. If your a ubuntu member, link your blog to ubuntu planet and other link and blogrolls to increase your exposure. If your on twitter, follow @ubuntutesting, and tweet about what's going on. What that doesn't mean is that everyone on the team should rush to make a FB account and join the group. Rather, anyone active on FB and using it could consider joining the group to help promote what we do and who we are. If your not on FB, g+, twitter, or anything that gets setup, please don't feel obligated to join in that social media in order to participate. This mailing list remains our primary communication channel.. If your on the LP team, and subscribed here, your in. Don't feel like your missing out because your not on every social medium. Nicholas On 08/20/2012 06:33 AM, Gema Gomez wrote: On 20/08/12 11:26, Phill Whiteside wrote: there is on Facebook a subtle but important difference between open, private hidden. A private group is advertised to all, but requires acceptance to join. The reason I chose private is that it does reduce the attacks by spammers. As we all have better things to do than run around cleaning up after spammers, that is why I chose private. I didn't know that, Phill, thanks for the info! So anyone can see what's going on as long as they have a FB user but they need to go through scrutiny (i.e. deciding if they are spammers) to join, right? Sounds good. In any case, I have decided to un-join the group in support of our users that cannot follow us in FB and my own conviction that it is not the right thing to do to have technical conversations there. I can spare myself the advertisement, since I follow things closely on IRC and mailing anyway. Thanks, Gema -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: 12.04.1 ISO Testing
I almost forgot -- since this is 12.04.1, the alternate images are a part of this release :-) Don't forget them! I'm in quantal mode and didn't even think when I saw them. FYI, for quantal, we are attempting to reduce our image count (to make our testing easier and reduce fragmentation for bugs and issues). The alternate images (for ubuntu) are targeted to be dropped. More discussions on this will happen during beta, when ubiquity should have all the changes necessary to support the functionality found in the alt images. Thanks, Nicholas On 08/20/2012 10:49 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: As many of you noticed (and tested already, awesome!), the 12.04.1 isos are out on the isotracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds Right on schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock Please fill in where you can. I know it was a long weekend of server moving, etc, so I didn't put out the general call to test until today when the dust settled. Those of you that braved the move, and tested anyway I trust made it through ok :-) Right now I'd like to see so more 10.04.4 - 12.04.1 upgrade testing (especially on a non-default installation). This can be accomplished by installing a base 10.04.4 image and modifying typical things, such as changing wallpaper, adding some non-default packages, etc. In addition, the amd64+mac images are available for those of you who have hardware that matches :-) It always needs a little love. Respins are going to be avoided at all costs, but please, be on the look out for major bugs and report them when found. 12.04.1 is a point release update to a stable LTS -- we need to do our best to have this be as bug free as possible. Anyone new to isotesting, or what it is we're doing, please send back a mail :-) And reference the wiki for help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough Thanks! Nicholas -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: 12.04.1 ISO Testing
I find the alternate iso files useful for old computers with low RAM. A couple of weeks ago I failed to install Lubuntu 12.04 from the live CD into a 512 MB RAM computer of a friend. That computer has good graphics and a fair CPU, so the alternate iso file helped me to make a responsive computer of a sluggish one. WinXP was just too much for it, and my friend does not want to spend money on RAM for such an old computer. It was just standing there as a letter-press but now her children can use it for internet tasks including games. So please help the alternate iso files survive at least for the light-weight flavours Lubuntu and Xubuntu! Or introduce a text mode installer into the standard live iso files?! Best regards sudodus alias nio ps/ What about the mini iso? /ds On 2012-08-20 17:28, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: I almost forgot -- since this is 12.04.1, the alternate images are a part of this release :-) Don't forget them! I'm in quantal mode and didn't even think when I saw them. FYI, for quantal, we are attempting to reduce our image count (to make our testing easier and reduce fragmentation for bugs and issues). The alternate images (for ubuntu) are targeted to be dropped. More discussions on this will happen during beta, when ubiquity should have all the changes necessary to support the functionality found in the alt images. Thanks, Nicholas On 08/20/2012 10:49 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: As many of you noticed (and tested already, awesome!), the 12.04.1 isos are out on the isotracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds Right on schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock Please fill in where you can. I know it was a long weekend of server moving, etc, so I didn't put out the general call to test until today when the dust settled. Those of you that braved the move, and tested anyway I trust made it through ok :-) Right now I'd like to see so more 10.04.4 - 12.04.1 upgrade testing (especially on a non-default installation). This can be accomplished by installing a base 10.04.4 image and modifying typical things, such as changing wallpaper, adding some non-default packages, etc. In addition, the amd64+mac images are available for those of you who have hardware that matches :-) It always needs a little love. Respins are going to be avoided at all costs, but please, be on the look out for major bugs and report them when found. 12.04.1 is a point release update to a stable LTS -- we need to do our best to have this be as bug free as possible. Anyone new to isotesting, or what it is we're doing, please send back a mail :-) And reference the wiki for help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough Thanks! Nicholas -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: 12.04.1 ISO Testing
Nio, don't worry! The alternate cd's for the ubuntu flavors are being retained. I know for a fact lubuntu is keeping alternate cd's -- my guess is xubuntu will also. I haven't heard confirmation from any flavor that they are dropping them -- it's a flavor specific decision what images to ship.The mini and netboot iso's are sticking around, so those wishing to install ubutun on a lower spec'd machine still have options. That said, the installer team is still working on ubiquity, and when the alternate cd's are completely dropped, more information as far as options for what ubiquity doesn't support should be made available. Thanks, Nicholas On 08/20/2012 01:56 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I find the alternate iso files useful for old computers with low RAM. A couple of weeks ago I failed to install Lubuntu 12.04 from the live CD into a 512 MB RAM computer of a friend. That computer has good graphics and a fair CPU, so the alternate iso file helped me to make a responsive computer of a sluggish one. WinXP was just too much for it, and my friend does not want to spend money on RAM for such an old computer. It was just standing there as a letter-press but now her children can use it for internet tasks including games. So please help the alternate iso files survive at least for the light-weight flavours Lubuntu and Xubuntu! Or introduce a text mode installer into the standard live iso files?! Best regards sudodus alias nio ps/ What about the mini iso? /ds On 2012-08-20 17:28, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: I almost forgot -- since this is 12.04.1, the alternate images are a part of this release :-) Don't forget them! I'm in quantal mode and didn't even think when I saw them. FYI, for quantal, we are attempting to reduce our image count (to make our testing easier and reduce fragmentation for bugs and issues). The alternate images (for ubuntu) are targeted to be dropped. More discussions on this will happen during beta, when ubiquity should have all the changes necessary to support the functionality found in the alt images. Thanks, Nicholas On 08/20/2012 10:49 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: As many of you noticed (and tested already, awesome!), the 12.04.1 isos are out on the isotracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds Right on schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock Please fill in where you can. I know it was a long weekend of server moving, etc, so I didn't put out the general call to test until today when the dust settled. Those of you that braved the move, and tested anyway I trust made it through ok :-) Right now I'd like to see so more 10.04.4 - 12.04.1 upgrade testing (especially on a non-default installation). This can be accomplished by installing a base 10.04.4 image and modifying typical things, such as changing wallpaper, adding some non-default packages, etc. In addition, the amd64+mac images are available for those of you who have hardware that matches :-) It always needs a little love. Respins are going to be avoided at all costs, but please, be on the look out for major bugs and report them when found. 12.04.1 is a point release update to a stable LTS -- we need to do our best to have this be as bug free as possible. Anyone new to isotesting, or what it is we're doing, please send back a mail :-) And reference the wiki for help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough Thanks! Nicholas -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
ARM Wiki sd-install update
For those of you braving ARM installations, I tried an sd-based installation this week and updated the instructions on the wiki page. Elfy, Carla, et la, I can confirm your findings of this bug(s): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1036742 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1036988 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/313452 and the workaround. It's documented for now on the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/QA/Pandaboard Thanks! Nicholas -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: 12.04.1 ISO Testing
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of weeks ago I failed to install Lubuntu 12.04 from the live CD into a 512 MB RAM computer of a friend. The graphical installer really shouldn't be locking up on 512MB, it should be erroring out instead. The problem is, the lockups aren't consistent, unless you use the manual partitioning. This is a severe problem, especially for 1st time users. I've filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1038248 -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Need Some Help With Update Manager
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Praks KK prakas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can somebody help me with this below message that I get when I open the Ubuntu Software Center, it crashes in Ubuntu- 12.04.1 LTS -desktop-amd 64 bit. Could not initialize the package information An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information. Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message: 'E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-x-swat-q-lts-backport-precise.list' And I tried to perform below procedure to overcome, but it doesn't work, I am not sure what I am doing;-( . can anybody help me in this. There is an unrecognised entry in the sources file for the gnome3 PPA source file/etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-oneiric.list. If you look in that file, line 3 contains ain. Either delete this ain entry via gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-oneiric.list or untick in your software sources the gnome3-team PPA and refresh Update Manager. The quoting has me confused, but this could be a typo, the ain whould be main? -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
