Re: Ctrl+alt+T doesn't invoke terminal anymore.

[Sanjeev Gupta]

Hi,

This stopped working for me on the weekend, and restarted yesterday
(GMT+0800).

I run the devel release (quantal), updating multiple times a day.

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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM, John Kim  wrote:

> The handy keyboard shortcut ctrl+alt+T shortcut no longer works on the
> development build.  Is this a regression, a bug, or just something
> Canonical decided to take out?  Thanks.
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Ctrl+alt+T doesn't invoke terminal anymore.

[John Kim]

The handy keyboard shortcut ctrl+alt+T shortcut no longer works on the 
development build.  Is this a regression, a bug, or just something 
Canonical decided to take out?  Thanks.


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Fwd: Minutes from the Ubuntu Kernel Team meeting, 2012-08-28

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi guys and gals!

Full details are below, but the kernel team seem happy with the Quantal
kernel. Beta-1 release client lands on Thursday, please do have a play and
double check to see if there are any gremlins before we hit feature freeze.

Oh, and as usual, the new kernel will not be in until Wednesdays re-spins
:) No pressure, then a whole 24 hours.

Thanks,

Phill.

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Subject: Minutes from the Ubuntu Kernel Team meeting, 2012-08-28
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= Meeting Minutes =
[[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/**2012/08/28/%23ubuntu-meeting.**txt|IRC<http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/28/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt%7CIRC>Log
of the meeting.]]
[[http://voices.canonical.com/**kernelteam|Meeting<http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam%7CMeeting>minutes.]]

== Agenda ==
[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues>,
28 Aug, 2012|20120828 Meeting Agenda]]


=== ARM Status  ===
 No new update this week.

=== Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs  ===
 Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following
link:
http://people.canonical.com/~**kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt<http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt>

=== Milestone Targeted Work Items  ===
 || apw || hardware-q-kernel-config-**review || 3 work item  ||
 || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items ||
 || || hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 1 work item  ||
 || || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels || 1 work item ||
 || cking   || hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 1 work item  ||
 || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 4 work items ||
 || tgardner|| hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 1 work item  ||
 If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.

=== Status: Quantal Development Kernel  ===
 We've recently uploaded the 3.5.0-13.13 Quantal kernel to the release
 pocket.  This upload most notably provides a rebase to the v3.5.3
 upstream stable release.  This was also uploaded to the q-lts-backport
 [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We
 welcome anyone to please install, test, and let us know your feedback.
 [1] 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport<https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport>
 Note that we are 2 days away from Beta-1 Freeze and ~1 week away from
 Beta-1 intself.  I do not foresee any further uploads before Thursday,
 ie. Beta-1 Freeze.  If there are any critical fixes which need to land,
 we need to know now.  Any uploades after Beta-1 Freeze will require
 approval from the release team.
 Important upcoming dates:
  * Thurs Aug 30 - Beta 1 Freeze (2 days)
  * Thurs Sept 6 - Beta 1 (~1 week)

=== Status: CVE's  ===
 == 2012-08-28 (weekly) ==
 Currently we have 88 CVEs on our radar, with two CVEs added and two CVEs
retired this week.
 See the CVE matrix for the current list:
http://people.canonical.com/~**kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html<http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html>
 Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
http://people.canonical.com/~**kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt<http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt>
http://people.canonical.com/~**kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt<http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt>

=== Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates -
Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/**Hardy  ===
 Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (August 28):
  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
  * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (6 commits)
  * Natty - Ready for -updates; 1 CVEs; (4 commits)
  * Oneiric - In Testing; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (98 commits)
  * Precise - In Testing; 0 CVEs; 3 upstream stable release(s); (167
commits)

 Current opened tracking bugs details:
  * 
http://people.canonical.com/~**kernel/reports/kernel-sru-**workflow.html<http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html>

 For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
  * 
http://people.canonical.com/~**kernel/reports/sru-report.html<http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html>

 Future stable cadence cycles:
  * 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**QuantalQuetzal/**ReleaseInterlock<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock>

 NOTE: next week is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.

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Re: ARM sd-install

[Carla Sella]

On 08/28/2012 09:39 PM, Elfy wrote:
> On 28/08/12 20:24, Carla Sella wrote:
>> On 08/28/2012 03:13 PM, Elfy wrote:
>>> Image appears to be right size now - got it written to card. Created
>>> partiions as I expected to.
>>>
>>> Few odd things going on - still not quite right.
>>>
>>> First - not sure whether this is typical - but I've never got anything
>>> other than an install screen from booting. If this is normal then ...
>>> good.
>>>
>>> The 'waiting' circle - blinks like a mad thing - but appears to work.
>>
>> Yes same happens to me.
>>
>>> Ubiquity bug - 727842 appears - but it's a private one - so you can't
>>> +1 it :)
>> Same bug.
>>
>>
>> I'll try again to install and see if I can report bugs.
>>
>>
> Excellent :)
>
> well almost lol
>
> I've never been sure of how you can actually report bug in a 'fail'
> when you can't actually get anywhere to do it from.
>
> If it was at least booting to desktop - I know you can get there.
>
>
>
I will just open a bug from launchpad from my PC, just to report what's
happening, take a picture  of what's on the screen.

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Re: ARM sd-install

[Elfy]

On 28/08/12 20:24, Carla Sella wrote:

On 08/28/2012 03:13 PM, Elfy wrote:

Image appears to be right size now - got it written to card. Created
partiions as I expected to.

Few odd things going on - still not quite right.

First - not sure whether this is typical - but I've never got anything
other than an install screen from booting. If this is normal then ...
good.

The 'waiting' circle - blinks like a mad thing - but appears to work.


Yes same happens to me.


Ubiquity bug - 727842 appears - but it's a private one - so you can't
+1 it :)

Same bug.


I'll try again to install and see if I can report bugs.



Excellent :)

well almost lol

I've never been sure of how you can actually report bug in a 'fail' when 
you can't actually get anywhere to do it from.


If it was at least booting to desktop - I know you can get there.



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Re: ARM sd-install

[Carla Sella]

On 08/28/2012 03:13 PM, Elfy wrote:
> Image appears to be right size now - got it written to card. Created
> partiions as I expected to.
>
> Few odd things going on - still not quite right.
>
> First - not sure whether this is typical - but I've never got anything
> other than an install screen from booting. If this is normal then ...
> good.
>
> The 'waiting' circle - blinks like a mad thing - but appears to work.


Yes same happens to me.

>
> Ubiquity bug - 727842 appears - but it's a private one - so you can't
> +1 it :)

Same bug.


I'll try again to install and see if I can report bugs.


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[Julien Lavergne]

Le 08/28/2012 09:10 AM, Lance a écrit :
> I'd think both Lubuntu and Xubuntu will suffer from this greatly since
> we do tend to target older low end computers.
Just to make it clear, Lubuntu will keep alternate for 12.10.

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Re: [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[Brendan Donegan]

On 28/08/12 16:21, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 28 August 2012 18:14, Nicholas Skaggs  
> wrote:
>> On 08/28/2012 09:34 AM, Anthony Byrne wrote:
>> As Brendan said, I would encourage those of you who have concerns to post
>> them back to the ubuntu-devel list @ Steve et la for discussion. If you
>> remember back to UDS, the original idea as discussed was that no
>> functionality would be lost (aka, the live cd would get support for
>> everything the alternate cd could do). They've come close, but RAID support
>> didn't quite happen.
>>
>> Note that If the alternates are dropped for ubuntu, going forward, if you
>> wish to install with RAID (or simply want to use an alternative installer)
>> you still have the option of using the netboot or mini iso.
> excuse me if I ask this, but I really cannot understand.
>
> If you already know that RAID support won't be ready for 12.10, why
> don't you wait for the NEXT release to remove the alternate install
> Cds?
> I cannot understand why it suddenly become so urgent to remove them.
> Can't you just wait 6 more months?
>
> Best regards,
Andrea, this is a good point. Please read through the discussion that
has taken place already to see if any of your concerns are addressed,
and put forward your own as well - since otherwise it will be unheard by
the right people -
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html

(BTW, I read your thread about contributing to a Qt-based Ubuntu
application. Checkbox, the testing client I help develop is Qt based so
if you would like, my team would be happy to get your assistance!)
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Re: [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[a.gra...@gmail.com]

Hi,

On 28 August 2012 18:14, Nicholas Skaggs  wrote:
> On 08/28/2012 09:34 AM, Anthony Byrne wrote:
> As Brendan said, I would encourage those of you who have concerns to post
> them back to the ubuntu-devel list @ Steve et la for discussion. If you
> remember back to UDS, the original idea as discussed was that no
> functionality would be lost (aka, the live cd would get support for
> everything the alternate cd could do). They've come close, but RAID support
> didn't quite happen.
>
> Note that If the alternates are dropped for ubuntu, going forward, if you
> wish to install with RAID (or simply want to use an alternative installer)
> you still have the option of using the netboot or mini iso.

excuse me if I ask this, but I really cannot understand.

If you already know that RAID support won't be ready for 12.10, why
don't you wait for the NEXT release to remove the alternate install
Cds?
I cannot understand why it suddenly become so urgent to remove them.
Can't you just wait 6 more months?

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Pushing the envelope .. Ubiquity Entire Drive Encrypted Install

[Ron Mitchell]

What's the d-i  ??

Ron Mitchell

On 27-Aug-12, at 8:09 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:


On 08/27/2012 08:12 PM, Greg Faith wrote:
Okay, since we are might see the demise of the d-i this cycle.. I  
decided to install the encrypted entire drive with ubiquity on a  
Lubuntu Desktop amd64 12.10 current daily build 20120827.. Well  
even on my Lenovo with nvidia-xorg issues I did complete the  
install and now I am thinking about trying out the Ubuntu Desktop  
amd64 current daily build too.


Anyway it appears we will need some tests added to the qa-tracker  
for the new ubiquity encrypted install. Guess I will log this one  
under normal entire drive and note that it was encrypted install ??


Greg nm_geo
Greg, yep! We do need a testcase added for this.. We'll need to  
migrate some of the alternate testcases over as well. Is that a  
volunteer to write the case? :-)


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Pushing the envelope .. Ubiquity Entire Drive Encrypted Install

[Ron Mitchell]

Ok, think I got it.  Debian - Install  right??

Ron M.
On 27-Aug-12, at 8:09 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:


On 08/27/2012 08:12 PM, Greg Faith wrote:
Okay, since we are might see the demise of the d-i this cycle.. I  
decided to install the encrypted entire drive with ubiquity on a  
Lubuntu Desktop amd64 12.10 current daily build 20120827.. Well  
even on my Lenovo with nvidia-xorg issues I did complete the  
install and now I am thinking about trying out the Ubuntu Desktop  
amd64 current daily build too.


Anyway it appears we will need some tests added to the qa-tracker  
for the new ubiquity encrypted install. Guess I will log this one  
under normal entire drive and note that it was encrypted install ??


Greg nm_geo
Greg, yep! We do need a testcase added for this.. We'll need to  
migrate some of the alternate testcases over as well. Is that a  
volunteer to write the case? :-)


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Pushing the envelope .. Ubiquity Entire Drive Encrypted Install

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Ron, yep d-i for debian installer...

On 08/28/2012 11:00 AM, Ron Mitchell wrote:

Ok, think I got it.  Debian - Install  right??

Ron M.
On 27-Aug-12, at 8:09 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:


On 08/27/2012 08:12 PM, Greg Faith wrote:
Okay, since we are might see the demise of the d-i this cycle.. I 
decided to install the encrypted entire drive with ubiquity on a 
Lubuntu Desktop amd64 12.10 current daily build 20120827.. Well even 
on my Lenovo with nvidia-xorg issues I did complete the install and 
now I am thinking about trying out the Ubuntu Desktop amd64 current 
daily build too.


Anyway it appears we will need some tests added to the qa-tracker 
for the new ubiquity encrypted install. Guess I will log this one 
under normal entire drive and note that it was encrypted install ??


Greg nm_geo 
Greg, yep! We do need a testcase added for this.. We'll need to 
migrate some of the alternate testcases over as well. Is that a 
volunteer to write the case? :-)


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat

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Re: [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[Nicholas Skaggs]

On 08/28/2012 09:34 AM, Anthony Byrne wrote:

I agree with A. Grandi! The alternate installer is *much* more stable
than any live CD. And what about SSH installation?

I second the community vote idea, as well. The other *buntus are very
likely to follow suit, so I believe in at least giving the public a
heads-up.

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On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:23 AM, "a.gra...@gmail.com"  wrote:


Hi,

On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs  wrote:

FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the alternate
installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision for
any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping the
alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone, which is
Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases and
add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!

so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.

Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
after installation and risking to loose my data.

Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.

I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
make Ubuntu worse than it is,
We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.

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As Brendan said, I would encourage those of you who have concerns to 
post them back to the ubuntu-devel list @ Steve et la for discussion. If 
you remember back to UDS, the original idea as discussed was that no 
functionality would be lost (aka, the live cd would get support for 
everything the alternate cd could do). They've come close, but RAID 
support didn't quite happen.


Note that If the alternates are dropped for ubuntu, going forward, if 
you wish to install with RAID (or simply want to use an alternative 
installer) you still have the option of using the netboot or mini iso.



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Re: question

[Full Circle Podcast]

12.10 is certainly more stable than 12.04 on my Dell, which is still
plagued with crashes (colord, Gimp, Firefox, Nautilus) and this week, a new
regular crash in smbd!

Apport struggles to keep up, bless it.

I may move over to 12.10 early. Lets make it a good one, folks.

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On 27 August 2012 21:03, Fabio Marconi  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 14:56 -0500, Angel Dreams wrote:
> > how stable is 12.10 or still alot of bugs in it
> At today is clean, but tomorrow ??
> Who can tell...
>
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Re: [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[Anthony Byrne]

I agree with A. Grandi! The alternate installer is *much* more stable
than any live CD. And what about SSH installation?

I second the community vote idea, as well. The other *buntus are very
likely to follow suit, so I believe in at least giving the public a
heads-up.

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On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:23 AM, "a.gra...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs  
> wrote:
>>
>> FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the alternate
>> installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision for
>> any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping the
>> alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone, which is
>> Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases and
>> add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!
>
> so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
> proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
> starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
> community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
> hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
> decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.
>
> Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
> to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
> and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
> after installation and risking to loose my data.
>
> Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
> complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
> use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.
>
> I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
> make Ubuntu worse than it is,
> We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.
>
> Best regards,
>
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ARM sd-install

[Elfy]

Image appears to be right size now - got it written to card. Created 
partiions as I expected to.


Few odd things going on - still not quite right.

First - not sure whether this is typical - but I've never got anything 
other than an install screen from booting. If this is normal then ... good.


The 'waiting' circle - blinks like a mad thing - but appears to work.

Ubiquity bug - 727842 appears - but it's a private one - so you can't +1 
it :)


I did find also while in tty doing the unmount that I Was getting

omapdss HDMI error: failed to enable GPIO's

Install crashes after going through the unable to add things to the 
private bug palaver.


Eventually it boots to a unity screen - 2 error windows

1 is a system error of some sort - can't actually select it to find what 
error is, the other is Software Centre error - again can't select 
anything here. Perhaps they are both in fact the same error.




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Re: [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[Brendan Donegan]

On 28/08/12 05:22, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs  
> wrote:
>> FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the alternate
>> installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision for
>> any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping the
>> alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone, which is
>> Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases and
>> add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!
> so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
> proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
> starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
> community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
> hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
> decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.
Andrea, I don't think you've read the email on ubuntu-devel properly.
Steve has outlined reasons why he thinks it is okay to drop -alternate
and invited comments/objections from others. I would recommend you
follow up there with concerns, as it sounds like you have some.
>
> Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
> to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
> and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
> after installation and risking to loose my data.
>
> Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
> complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
> use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.
>
> I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
> make Ubuntu worse than it is,
> We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Andrea Grandi - Nokia-DX/Tampere / Qt Ambassador
> Ubuntu Member: https://launchpad.net/~andreagrandi
> website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
>


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Re: question

[Fabio Marconi]

On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 14:56 -0500, Angel Dreams wrote:
> how stable is 12.10 or still alot of bugs in it
At today is clean, but tomorrow ??
Who can tell...



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Re: [U+1] Fwd: Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10

[a.gra...@gmail.com]

Hi,

On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs  wrote:
>
> FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the alternate
> installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision for
> any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping the
> alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone, which is
> Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases and
> add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!

so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.

Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
after installation and risking to loose my data.

Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.

I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
make Ubuntu worse than it is,
We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.

Best regards,

--
Andrea Grandi - Nokia-DX/Tampere / Qt Ambassador
Ubuntu Member: https://launchpad.net/~andreagrandi
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it

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