Re: ibook g4

[Greg Faith]

If you want to be in experiment mode, try desktop 12.10 powerpc.  Of course
I will try nearly anything (probably a left over view from the 60's) .. You
should be fine using the alternate 12.10 for a testing install.

I still have 12.04 on my G4 PowerBook and it is stable as..as..as debian ..
q:o)
I use about 115MB when it is idling.

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Private bugs

[Greg Faith]

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> as requested on my visit to #ubuntu-bugs I have added the following [1]
> Please feel free to edit it. Testers just want a quick answer to an issue
> whereby their bug 'dis-appears'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phill.
> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview#My_Bug_went_Private
>
> On 4 September 2012 23:18, C de-Avillez  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:16:57 -0500
>> C de-Avillez  wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:35:58 +0100
>> > Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi folks,
>> > >
>> > > recently a bug reported by a QA member was marked as a duplicate (no
>> > > harm there), but the 'master' bug was set as 'private'. This meant
>> > > that the person who registered it could not access it to view /
>> > > update etc.
>> > >
>> > > I had a chat with the bug squad about this. If this happens they ask
>> > > that you go to #ubuntu-bugs and raise it with them. The bot does go
>> > > trawling for duplicated bugs, but it is not aware if the bug it is
>> > > using as master is private. I'll get the wiki area updated.
>> >
>> > To expand a bit more on it: there are two major types of private bugs:
>> >
>> > (this is centered on Ubuntu, but should be similar on other projects,
>> > like Lubuntu)
>> >
>> >  * born private (usually security and apport crashdump bugs)
>> >  * made private later on.
>> >
>> > The apport crashdumps are born private because they carry a coredump
>> > file -- and it can carry a LOT of private data in it. Additionally,
>> > apport processing runs a GDB 'bt full' for both the offending thread
>> > (the one that got hit) and for all threads. The 'bt full' sports
>> > variable assignment values. Depending on the program, and where it got
>> > hit, these variables values could also hold private data. No matter
>> > what, at the end of apport processing, the coredump is deleted.
>> >
>> > So... apport will, usually, not make a crashdump bug public. But it
>> > knows about it, and will match as needed, marking newer bugs as
>> > duplicates.
>> >
>> > A subset of Launchpad users have access to these bugs, and can
>> > manually review and decide on an action -- the worst scenario is we
>> > see private data, and will have to discuss with someone else (a
>> > maintainer/developer of the package) if the private data is critical;
>> > if it is not, we can edit/remove the offending pieces, and make the
>> > bug public. If it is, on the other hand, there is not much we can do.
>> > But these are very unusual cases, I do not remember seeing one myself.
>> >
>> > So, to summarise: yes, your bug can be dupped to a private bug. In
>> > this case, please pop in #ubuntu-bugs, or email Bug
>> > Control/Ubuntu-QA, and ask for someone to perform the check. We will
>> > be happy to help.
>> >
>> > It is just that there are more bugs than the time we have...
>>
>> Darn, forgot the most important piece: Thank you, Phil, for pinging us
>> and taking the lead on making this public :-)
>>
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You guys are getting it done without any nagging. I can assure you
there are others who have had this happen to them and now we have a
defined route to resolution.

Thanks,
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Pushing the envelope .. Ubiquity Entire Drive Encrypted Install

[Greg Faith]

Okay, since we are might see the demise of the d-i this cycle.. I decided
to install the encrypted entire drive with ubiquity on a Lubuntu Desktop
amd64 12.10 current daily build 20120827.. Well even on my Lenovo with
nvidia-xorg issues I did complete the install and now I am thinking about
trying out the Ubuntu Desktop amd64 current daily build too.

Anyway it appears we will need some tests added to the qa-tracker for the
new ubiquity encrypted install. Guess I will log this one under normal
entire drive and note that it was encrypted install ??

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qa Tracker ahead of Spins?

[Greg Faith]

So I decided to do a few live sessions on Ubuntu quantal amd64 just
now the qa-trackers show the current 20120823 but the downloads most
current is 20120822 ?? Anyway I had a few bugs and could not log the
test on qa-tracker strange days indeed or is this normal and I have
been in la-la land.

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Re: Seeking some advice

[Greg Faith]

Thanks Phill.. I think the Xserver-Nvidia issue is the problem.
I was not having the problem on live sessions and iso installs
on say 20120817 or there about.

20120820
The first time I tried the USB everything went fine plymouth
finished and I was expecting the session to start normally.
But I got a graphics mess that I could do nothing with.

Second boot same USB I picked nomodeset as I had heard it
works on some graphic issues.  I get the low graphic plymouth
and low resolution live session but installs worked well.

I will continue to check this from time to time... Maybe even drop
a bug against xorg/nvidia

Anyway Thanks again for asking around for me.. you r da-man

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Seeking some advice

[Greg Faith]

Here is the situation.

I am using a live persistent USB of the Lubuntu quantal desktop amd64
20120819 to

run live and install test cases. Presently I using a Dell D620 and
Lenovo T61p to do full

hardware installs.  The Dell D620 boots up live with no problem, but
the Lenovo with

nvidia graphics requires me to set F6 "nomodeset" to get the Live
session working.

Now with all that said a week ago I did not have to set the
"nomodeset" on the Lenovo

to get the live session working.  It is not really a big problem for
me as I have worked

through the issue, but I can see where a new user with a Lenovo kit
with nvidia graphic

might have a difficult time.

I guess I am wondering should a bug be filed against the kernel as it
appear to be a

regression?

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Re: lubuntu

[Greg Faith]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Greg Faith  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Jackson Doak 
wrote:
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>> the latest daily build of lubuntu freezes after selecting install
lubuntu.
>> How should i report this and can someone else confirm it.
>>
>> jackson
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> It would be an ubiquity problem probably.  What lubunut ? amd64, i386,
>  ppc, amd64+MAC which one? I will run some of them in about 4 or 5
> hours from now.
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I checked the qa tracker and see it was the Lubuntu desktop amd64
I will test that one later.
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Re: lubuntu

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Jackson Doak  wrote:
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> the latest daily build of lubuntu freezes after selecting install lubuntu.
> How should i report this and can someone else confirm it.
>
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It would be an ubiquity problem probably.  What lubunut ? amd64, i386,
 ppc, amd64+MAC which one? I will run some of them in about 4 or 5
hours from now.

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ISO Testing Feedback

[Greg Faith]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Nicholas Skaggs
 wrote:
>
> Greetings everyone! After each milestone I generally review everything that 
> happened during the milestone, trying to understand how we did, and how it 
> went for you as a community. The release team does the same, comparing how 
> their team did on respins, communicaton, etc. However, especially given the 
> recent confusion of cadence testing, and it itself being an experiment, I'd 
> like to take a moment to specifically invite everyone to provide feedback on 
> how iso testing has been this cycle, and in particular this last week. This 
> is entirely open-ended, but I'll leave some questions for you to think about.
>
> Did you find the testing itself easy to complete?
> Was it easy for you to follow along with how the testing was going?
> Did you have fun!?
> Specific to the idea of "cadence testing" (that is, to test outside of 
> milestone at regular intervals), did you find the testing useful or otherwise 
> productive expenditure of our collective "time and effort" as a community?
>
> I don't want to share too much of my thoughts so as to not influence the 
> discussion at first. However, I will say it can be difficult to keep abreast 
> of what's happening during the testing weeks as it is and that without the 
> ability to use the isotracker effectively during a cadence week makes it even 
> harder. During the cadence week, using the isotracker, people were lost as to 
> what to do or the status of what was trying to be achieved. If we continue to 
> aim for this type of testing, we'll need to expand the workarounds and 
> ultimately enhance the isotracker to support the testing effort.
>
> Nicholas
>
> P.S. Just a quick note; I am always available for feedback or discussion in 
> any manner you wish. Email, IRC, voice or google hangout, skype, whatever you 
> wish. Any idea or topic is fair game. I'd love to hear from you!
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Nicholas et al,

Personally I think the testing last week was well timed with the
changes that are taking place in Ubiquity.  We found some bugs that
will allow the devs a little more time to fix before the next cycle.
If those changes led you to call for the cadence testing you did well.

It appears a couple of critical ubiquity bugs will be cleared with
ubiquity - 2.11.21.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1035167

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1034954


Maybe in tomorrow's spins. I will test a few tomorrow for sure.

As far as fun goes.. Yeah I have fun testing mostly on my new/refurb
Lenovo T61p.

My 2 & 1/2 cents,
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Re: ISO Testing Screencast

[Greg Faith]

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
> On 08/02/2012 05:56 PM, Jeff Lane wrote:
>>
>> On 08/01/2012 03:45 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>>>
>>> I've created a video to accompany the iso testing walkthrough. I'd love
>>> some feedback on both the walk-through and video:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noDAsZjvmSA
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough
>>>
>>> Are they helpful? I know the video could be better (next time,
>>> promise!), but are the concepts communicated easier? I'm especially
>>> looking to hear from new folks who may never have iso tested. I want to
>>> make sure you have all the tools and information needed to jump in and
>>> get involved. As always, happy testing everyone,
>>>
>>> Nicholas
>>

Excellent instructions for a new tester using VM installs.. You have done
well.

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Ubuntu Precise Beta 2 coming soon. Be ready to test your laptop.

[Greg Faith]

For those of us testing on laptops this will be another place to report
testing. It will however be the Ubuntu
flavor as of now.  I did sign-up for laptop testing but my Lubuntu releases
testing will come first. It appear
the laptop testing will not start until the final Beta 2 spin anyway. Glad
I have all these spare hard drives q:o)
for my Dell D620.

nm_geo Greg

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Being a n00b for QA, one thing I have learned from that the qa team is
> that we are growing and getting new people to help.
>
> The ultimate goal is no testing! But until the robots take over, we rely
> on people like your self to test.
>
> If ever you think that you do not make a difference, let me assure you
> that you do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 24 March 2012 17:39, ∅  wrote:
>
>>  i guess more fundamentally, is this necessary for us to do as we are
>> testing lubuntu?
>>
>> wxl
>>
>>
>> On 03/24/2012 05:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>
>> Hiyas,
>>
>>  having finally had some sleep and a re-read, it all makes sense :)
>>
>>  The ubuntu friendly part is to profile your laptop & see how it
>> performs with *buntu installed, such things as graphics chips etc. can
>> cause problems. Once the laptop is registered as being *buntu friendly it
>> allows people to quickly see what laptops work with *buntu with no pain.
>> I've either been very lucky, else full *buntu support is supported by many
>> laptops. All mine have taken to it like ducks to water. But I am aware that
>> not all laptops get on with the penguin mainly due to closed source drivers
>> for graphics etc.
>>
>>  I'll get the tests run on my EasyNote and profile it.
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Phill.
>>
>> On 24 March 2012 00:39, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  I have no idea. This is complete new news to me :/
>>>
>>>  Our launchpad accounts are fully valid, but as to what specific laptop
>>> testing is I need to ask.
>>>
>>>  Hopefully I can get some details from 'main' QA a.s.a.p. It appears to
>>> be a simple lack of communication. It is possibly my fault, but I do really
>>> try to keep you guys "in the loop" as to what is happening :(
>>>
>>>  My Apologies,
>>>
>>>  Phill.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 March 2012 22:50, ∅  wrote:
>>>
  we going to be using this?


  Original Message   Subject: Ubuntu Precise Beta 2
 coming soon. Be ready to test your laptop.  Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012
 22:39:35 +  From: Sergio Zanchetta 
   To:
 ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-laptop-test...@lists.launchpad.net

 Hi all!

 Thanks to the superb work of Stéphane Graber, we now have the new
 version of the Laptop tracker [1].

 There are two major difference:
 a) The integration with Ubuntu Single-Sign-On service; now you'll only
 require a launchpad account in order to authenticate on the new
 tracker.
 b) The laptop profile; as you see here [2] there is a new "Hardware
 Profile" field available when you add a test report, in which you
 should put the URL of your laptop hardware profile. Have a look here
 [3] for more information.

 Precise Beta 2 is due next week (Mar. 29th), so in order to be ready
 for testing we recommend you to prepare your laptop hardware profile
 in advance.

 Thank you very much for your help!


 [1] http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com
 [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures#Adding_test_reports
 [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures#Setting_up


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu precise-alternate 20120223 booting to command prompt

[Greg Faith]

Noticed we had new isos for 20120224 so I zsync both desktops and alternate
isos 32bit & 64bit.  Tried the desktop 386i 32bit first got the
ubuntu@ubuntu command prompt tried every command I know but got no where.
Tried the desktop amd64bit got the exact same command prompt.

Not one to give up... I decided to try the alternate 386i iso.  Sorry to
say it looked like it was going to install but upon boot I get the command
prompt again. I am going to try a few more things here.
Later

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:39 PM, 神癒礁湖  wrote:

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC LiveCD black screens, makes install unusable

[Greg Faith]

Yes, *U*buntu but not *Lu*buntu:

Yes sir, exactly here is the current Lubuntu that still has the black
background and dark fonts.

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/

still dated from 20120222 and check this AM here in the desert
southwest of New Mexico.



On 2/23/12, ∅  wrote:
> Yes, *U*buntu but not *Lu*buntu:
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20120223
>
> wxl
>
> On 02/23/2012 08:40 PM, Greg Faith wrote:
>> I did zsync the Ubuntu amd64 today and noticed there were 2 different
>> today.  I dd the latest one to a flash drive and did a complete install..
>> It completed just fine.
>>
>> nm_geo
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM, ∅ > <mailto:maps.backw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> …of course there is no Lubuntu desktop ISO for any arch that's any
>> different from 20120222. 20120223 should be something like 10-11
>> hours old by now. i'm not sure what's up with this.
>>
>> wxl
>>
>>
>> On 02/23/2012 08:28 PM, Greg Faith wrote:
>>> Still the same as yesterday. The black screen and dark font make
>>> thing difficult. Pictures attached from yesterday.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Greg Faith >> <mailto:gregfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu precise-desktop-amd64 it
>>> went well with all visible screens.  I also noted there was
>>> no change to the current-daily zsync's for Lubuntu desktops
>>> amd64 & 386i .. so i would think the black-grey screens are
>>> probably still there.
>>>
>>> I will dd a flash drive and start an install if the first
>>> screen shows the ugly black mess I will just abort and report.
>>> nm_geo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:22 PM, ∅ >> <mailto:maps.backw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/23/2012 06:11 PM, Paul Gorski wrote:
>>>> Black windows/dialog boxes made the installation very,
>>>> very challenging.
>>>>
>>>> Installation Type screen -
>>>> Installation Type wording appears, but options are only
>>>> faintly visible (most users wouldn't see them). The
>>>> buttons to select the options are visible, but the text
>>>> isn't visible.
>>>> Background is black. That might be normal. But I
>>>> wouldn't use black as a background as it looks like you
>>>> are in terminal mode.
>>>> And the buttons are visible in lower right hand of
>>>> screen, but the text on buttons is not visible.
>>>>
>>>> Keyboard Layout screen -
>>>> Screen is black, keyboard menu options not visible
>>>> Buttons to continue process are visible, but text is not
>>>> visible on buttons.
>>>>
>>>> Where Are You?
>>>> Input boxes are highlighted by white frames on a black
>>>> background, but the rest of the text on the page is not
>>>> visible.
>>>>
>>>> Since I know what was supposed to go into those
>>>> apparently blank input boxes during the install, I was
>>>> able to complete the install.
>>>> When I got to login following the install, the login
>>>> screen was black, with input boxes outlined in white,
>>>> with simple Cancel and Login text as white text reversed
>>>> out against the black background.
>>> Paul, in case you didn't see the bug against lubuntu-artwork:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/938472
>>>
>>> Apparently this one is not PPC specific. Please confirm
>>> it and add any comments you feel fit (like the above
>>> which is quite useful)
>>>
>>>> Welcome Screen
>>>> Looks fine, but states "Thank you for choosing Lubuntu
>>>> 11.10."
>>> Supposedly this one just got fixed but I suspect that's
>>> only in Ubuntu. Will check it out tonight. Here's the bug
>>> to comment on:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/899503
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC LiveCD black screens, makes install unusable

[Greg Faith]

I did zsync the Ubuntu amd64 today and noticed there were 2 different
today.  I dd the latest one to a flash drive and did a complete install..
It completed just fine.

nm_geo

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM, ∅  wrote:

>  …of course there is no Lubuntu desktop ISO for any arch that's any
> different from 20120222. 20120223 should be something like 10-11 hours old
> by now. i'm not sure what's up with this.
>
> wxl
>
>
> On 02/23/2012 08:28 PM, Greg Faith wrote:
>
> Still the same as yesterday. The black screen and dark font make thing
> difficult. Pictures attached from yesterday.
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Greg Faith  wrote:
>
>> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu precise-desktop-amd64 it went well
>> with all visible screens.  I also noted there was no change to the
>> current-daily zsync's for Lubuntu desktops amd64 & 386i .. so i would think
>> the black-grey screens are probably still there.
>>
>> I will dd a flash drive and start an install if the first screen shows
>> the ugly black mess I will just abort and report.
>> nm_geo
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:22 PM, ∅  wrote:
>>
>>>   On 02/23/2012 06:11 PM, Paul Gorski wrote:
>>>
>>>  Black windows/dialog boxes made the installation very, very
>>> challenging.
>>>
>>> Installation Type screen -
>>> Installation Type wording appears, but options are only faintly visible
>>> (most users wouldn't see them). The buttons to select the options are
>>> visible, but the text isn't visible.
>>> Background is black. That might be normal. But I wouldn't use black as a
>>> background as it looks like you are in terminal mode.
>>> And the buttons are visible in lower right hand of screen, but the text
>>> on buttons is not visible.
>>>
>>> Keyboard Layout screen -
>>> Screen is black, keyboard menu options not visible
>>> Buttons to continue process are visible, but text is not visible on
>>> buttons.
>>>
>>> Where Are You?
>>> Input boxes are highlighted by white frames on a black background, but
>>> the rest of the text on the page is not visible.
>>>
>>>  Since I know what was supposed to go into those apparently blank input
>>> boxes during the install, I was able to complete the install.
>>> When I got to login following the install, the login screen was black,
>>> with input boxes outlined in white, with simple Cancel and Login text as
>>> white text reversed out against the black background.
>>>
>>> Paul, in case you didn't see the bug against lubuntu-artwork:
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/938472
>>>
>>> Apparently this one is not PPC specific. Please confirm it and add any
>>> comments you feel fit (like the above which is quite useful)
>>>
>>> Welcome Screen
>>> Looks fine, but states "Thank you for choosing Lubuntu 11.10."
>>>
>>>  Supposedly this one just got fixed but I suspect that's only in Ubuntu.
>>> Will check it out tonight. Here's the bug to comment on:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/899503
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] PPC LiveCD black screens, makes install unusable

[Greg Faith]

I just did a clean install of Ubuntu precise-desktop-amd64 it went well
with all visible screens.  I also noted there was no change to the
current-daily zsync's for Lubuntu desktops amd64 & 386i .. so i would think
the black-grey screens are probably still there.

I will dd a flash drive and start an install if the first screen shows the
ugly black mess I will just abort and report.
nm_geo



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:22 PM, ∅  wrote:

>  On 02/23/2012 06:11 PM, Paul Gorski wrote:
>
>  Black windows/dialog boxes made the installation very, very challenging.
>
> Installation Type screen -
> Installation Type wording appears, but options are only faintly visible
> (most users wouldn't see them). The buttons to select the options are
> visible, but the text isn't visible.
> Background is black. That might be normal. But I wouldn't use black as a
> background as it looks like you are in terminal mode.
> And the buttons are visible in lower right hand of screen, but the text on
> buttons is not visible.
>
> Keyboard Layout screen -
> Screen is black, keyboard menu options not visible
> Buttons to continue process are visible, but text is not visible on
> buttons.
>
> Where Are You?
> Input boxes are highlighted by white frames on a black background, but the
> rest of the text on the page is not visible.
>
> Since I know what was supposed to go into those apparently blank input
> boxes during the install, I was able to complete the install.
> When I got to login following the install, the login screen was black,
> with input boxes outlined in white, with simple Cancel and Login text as
> white text reversed out against the black background.
>
> Paul, in case you didn't see the bug against lubuntu-artwork:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/938472
>
> Apparently this one is not PPC specific. Please confirm it and add any
> comments you feel fit (like the above which is quite useful)
>
> Welcome Screen
> Looks fine, but states "Thank you for choosing Lubuntu 11.10."
>
> Supposedly this one just got fixed but I suspect that's only in Ubuntu.
> Will check it out tonight. Here's the bug to comment on:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/899503
>
> wxl
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