Re: Daily build vs. alpha/beta

2012-09-17 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
John, also note that during these focused testing periods (alpha, beta 
testing), the images we are testing are the latest daily builds. Sure, 
now beta1 is old, so if you wanted to do testing today for an image, you 
should use today's image. At the time we were testing however, it was 
the daily build. The workflow I follow is to run the development version 
and keep it up to date with the changes. I will continue to use the 
programs I normally do in my daily usage, and try out new things over 
the course of the cycle to look for bugs. I will also do specific calls 
for testing that focus on a specific package or packages and test those 
as well. Finally, when it comes time to release an image, I will install 
and test that image to make sure it's good. Testing the image is mostly 
about making sure it installs a good working system. The software that 
comes with or can be installed after is the focus on the day to day 
testing and running of the development version of ubuntu. Run the 
development version long enough, and you'll find bugs in things you use 
or install. Thanks,



Nicholas

On 09/15/2012 08:40 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

Hi John,

there is a thing called regression. Simply put, a minor bug fix then 
re-opens a load of bugs that were in containment. This also can occur 
when the devs bring together several bugs into one release. If they 
were to put out one release per day / per bug. 12.10 could be 
expected about the year 2020.


We use the alpha / betas as benchmarks, anything thing that makes 
things worse is a regression,


I hope that explains things to you, please feel free to ask further 
questions.


Regards,

Phill.

On 15 September 2012 23:40, John Kim > wrote:


Hello QA,

I've been attending school for a few weeks now. I will get my act
together and continue contributing.

Anyway, I see that a lot of qa testers are trying out the betas
and catching some bugs.

I understand that the daily builds are the latest,
up-to-the-minute Ubuntu distribution, but why do QA Testers flock
over to the alphas/betas to go test for them?  Why do they not
test the latest daily build in such droves?

Most Ubuntu developers stick to the daily builds to do their dev
work on it.  To what extent is the daily build useful for the QA
Tester?

Thanks, and have a good day!

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Re: Daily build vs. alpha/beta

2012-09-15 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi John,

there is a thing called regression. Simply put, a minor bug fix then
re-opens a load of bugs that were in containment. This also can occur when
the devs bring together several bugs into one release. If they were to put
out one release per day / per bug. 12.10 could be expected about the
year 2020.

We use the alpha / betas as benchmarks, anything thing that makes things
worse is a regression,

I hope that explains things to you, please feel free to ask further
questions.

Regards,

Phill.

On 15 September 2012 23:40, John Kim  wrote:

> Hello QA,
>
> I've been attending school for a few weeks now. I will get my act together
> and continue contributing.
>
> Anyway, I see that a lot of qa testers are trying out the betas and
> catching some bugs.
>
> I understand that the daily builds are the latest, up-to-the-minute Ubuntu
> distribution, but why do QA Testers flock over to the alphas/betas to go
> test for them?  Why do they not test the latest daily build in such droves?
>
> Most Ubuntu developers stick to the daily builds to do their dev work on
> it.  To what extent is the daily build useful for the QA Tester?
>
> Thanks, and have a good day!
>
> --
> John Kim
> Ubuntu enthusiast
> lookjohn.com
>
>
>
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> Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com
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Daily build vs. alpha/beta

2012-09-15 Thread John Kim
Hello QA,

I've been attending school for a few weeks now. I will get my act together
and continue contributing.

Anyway, I see that a lot of qa testers are trying out the betas and
catching some bugs.

I understand that the daily builds are the latest, up-to-the-minute Ubuntu
distribution, but why do QA Testers flock over to the alphas/betas to go
test for them?  Why do they not test the latest daily build in such droves?

Most Ubuntu developers stick to the daily builds to do their dev work on
it.  To what extent is the daily build useful for the QA Tester?

Thanks, and have a good day!

-- 
John Kim
Ubuntu enthusiast
lookjohn.com
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