Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[Gabor Toth]

All right.  :-)

Gabor Toth

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On 10/29/2012 06:55 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
> Gabor;
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Gabor Toth  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Why don't we just keep the modified files?
> I think this is a great suggestion: put the modified files in
> /home/username/OldVersions/
>
> ie treat the /home/username/OldVersions as root relative to the files
> to be changed.
>
> or something similar.
>
> This would let the user go back and change her/his configuration at
> leisure, not in the middle of an upgrade.
>
>> 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
>> opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
>> Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way.
> The problem with the missing menu in LibreOffice is a known bug
> #1064962 if I am not wrong.  Quite frustrating but there is a
> workaround.
>


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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[chris hermansen]

Gabor;

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Gabor Toth  wrote:
> Hi,
>

> Why don't we just keep the modified files?

I think this is a great suggestion: put the modified files in
/home/username/OldVersions/

ie treat the /home/username/OldVersions as root relative to the files
to be changed.

or something similar.

This would let the user go back and change her/his configuration at
leisure, not in the middle of an upgrade.

>
> 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
> opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
> Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way.

The problem with the missing menu in LibreOffice is a known bug
#1064962 if I am not wrong.  Quite frustrating but there is a
workaround.

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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[Gabor Toth]

Got that and all right!  Thanks for the info, somewhere I've missed it
before.

I would think though then the DVD images could be filled up with more
stuff.  It is just a bit over a CD image and lot's of space for more
stuff - language packs, more aps, etc.  No?  Just an idea...


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On 10/29/2012 02:09 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Ubuntu have dropped CD sized images with 12.10. If the host computer
> can only read a CD (i.e. no usb boot either) then a net-install would
> have to be used. 
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 29 October 2012 13:03, Charlie Kravetz  > wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
> Gabor Toth mailto:gabor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
> > indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade
> process that I
> > feel should be changed in future releases:
> > During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
> > message came up saying that I have modified some configuration
> files and
> > offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new
> one.  I can
> > look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I
> actually did
> > not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do
> they do
> > and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus
> using the
> > upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do
> I miss
> > out some features? The process does not give data on it and for
> people
> > who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
> > choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to
> even ask.
> > Why don't we just keep the modified files?
> > Just a point to make.
> >
> > Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
> > 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I
> have
> > also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
> > them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
> > someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both
> cases
> > said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that
> so?  Are
> > the images too big for CD?
>
> When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ,
> which is
> the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
> Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
> for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.
>
> >
> > 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the
> notification
> > area under the "envelop".  Actually after the reboot, that
> completed the
> > upgrade, the "envelop" and its menu was missing too entirely.
>  Then when
> > I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the "envelop" came and it is there
> > since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
> > Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs
> fine
> > though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty
> installed on
> > the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did
> appear in
> > that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug
> against
> > the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.
> >
> > 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
> > opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu
> (Files,
> > Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in
> any way.
> > The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed
> mode or the
> > smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time
> it just
> > worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
> > reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange.
> > Wanted to report it here.
> >
> > Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just
> fine and
> > the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
> > congrats for whoever choose them.
> >
> > I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
> > something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> > Gabor,
> >
>
>
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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[Phill Whiteside]

Ubuntu have dropped CD sized images with 12.10. If the host computer can
only read a CD (i.e. no usb boot either) then a net-install would have to
be used.

Regards,

Phill

Regards,

Phill.

On 29 October 2012 13:03, Charlie Kravetz wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
> Gabor Toth  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
> > indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I
> > feel should be changed in future releases:
> > During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
> > message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and
> > offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one.  I can
> > look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I actually did
> > not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do
> > and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the
> > upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do I miss
> > out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people
> > who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
> > choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask.
> > Why don't we just keep the modified files?
> > Just a point to make.
> >
> > Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
> > 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have
> > also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
> > them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
> > someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases
> > said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that so?  Are
> > the images too big for CD?
>
> When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is
> the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
> Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
> for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.
>
> >
> > 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification
> > area under the "envelop".  Actually after the reboot, that completed the
> > upgrade, the "envelop" and its menu was missing too entirely.  Then when
> > I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the "envelop" came and it is there
> > since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
> > Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine
> > though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty installed on
> > the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in
> > that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug against
> > the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.
> >
> > 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
> > opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
> > Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way.
> > The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed mode or the
> > smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time it just
> > worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
> > reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange.
> > Wanted to report it here.
> >
> > Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and
> > the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
> > congrats for whoever choose them.
> >
> > I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
> > something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> > Gabor,
> >
>
>
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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[Gabor Toth]

Hi Charlie,

Yea, I know and I can indeed burn them onto a DVD and/or put on USB. 
Looking again the Ubuntu main website it actually do say that you need
USB or DVD.  I was just not aware of that change - until now it was CD. 
Anyhow, fair enough, I need to get some DVDs then.

Best,

Gabor Toth

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On 10/29/2012 02:03 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
> Gabor Toth  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
>> indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I
>> feel should be changed in future releases:
>> During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
>> message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and
>> offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one.  I can
>> look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I actually did
>> not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do
>> and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the
>> upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do I miss
>> out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people
>> who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
>> choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. 
>> Why don't we just keep the modified files?
>> Just a point to make.
>>
>> Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
>> 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have
>> also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
>> them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
>> someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases
>> said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that so?  Are
>> the images too big for CD?
> When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is
> the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
> Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
> for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.
>
>> 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification
>> area under the "envelop".  Actually after the reboot, that completed the
>> upgrade, the "envelop" and its menu was missing too entirely.  Then when
>> I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the "envelop" came and it is there
>> since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
>> Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine
>> though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty installed on
>> the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in
>> that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug against
>> the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.
>>
>> 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
>> opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
>> Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. 
>> The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed mode or the
>> smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time it just
>> worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
>> reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange. 
>> Wanted to report it here.
>>
>> Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and
>> the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
>> congrats for whoever choose them.
>>
>> I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
>> something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>>
>> Gabor,
>>
>


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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
Gabor Toth  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
> indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I
> feel should be changed in future releases:
> During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
> message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and
> offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one.  I can
> look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I actually did
> not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do
> and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the
> upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do I miss
> out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people
> who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
> choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. 
> Why don't we just keep the modified files?
> Just a point to make.
> 
> Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
> 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have
> also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
> them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
> someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases
> said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that so?  Are
> the images too big for CD?

When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is
the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.

> 
> 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification
> area under the "envelop".  Actually after the reboot, that completed the
> upgrade, the "envelop" and its menu was missing too entirely.  Then when
> I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the "envelop" came and it is there
> since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
> Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine
> though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty installed on
> the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in
> that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug against
> the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.
> 
> 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
> opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
> Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. 
> The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed mode or the
> smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time it just
> worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
> reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange. 
> Wanted to report it here.
> 
> Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and
> the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
> congrats for whoever choose them.
> 
> I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
> something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.
> 
> Have a nice day.
> 
> Gabor,
> 


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Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

[Gabor Toth]

Hi,

I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I
feel should be changed in future releases:
During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and
offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one.  I can
look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I actually did
not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do
and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the
upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do I miss
out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people
who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. 
Why don't we just keep the modified files?
Just a point to make.

Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have
also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases
said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that so?  Are
the images too big for CD?

2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification
area under the "envelop".  Actually after the reboot, that completed the
upgrade, the "envelop" and its menu was missing too entirely.  Then when
I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the "envelop" came and it is there
since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine
though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty installed on
the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in
that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug against
the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.

3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. 
The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed mode or the
smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time it just
worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange. 
Wanted to report it here.

Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and
the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
congrats for whoever choose them.

I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.

Have a nice day.

Gabor,

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