New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
Dear all,

we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC, right
before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.

Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we will
give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at the moment in
the QA Team.

Find the temporary agenda in the usual place:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and let's
discuss them.

See you there,
Gema



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Re: New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
On 30/11/11 15:11, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:02:36 + Gema Gomez
 gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC,
 right before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.
 
 Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we
 will give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at
 the moment in the QA Team.
 
 Find the temporary agenda in the usual place: 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and
 let's discuss them.
 
 See you there, Gema
 
 
 
 
 I do not like this new meeting thing. For me, as a derivative QA,
 it now costs me two hours for the QA meeting, since I am all of QA
 for Xubuntu. We don't have two people, nor do we really have a need
 for two people.
 

Thanks for bringing this up, Charlie. You are one of the few people
that were present in most meetings, and as you know, we didn't have a
lot of outside presence in them. This, and the changes that are
undergoing in QA, that require more focus, are the reasons why we are
changing the format of the meetings. Maybe, by bringing the right
attention to QA and the right attention to bugs, we can increase the
QA community and find someone that can help you as well.

We are going to document and publish everything that is discussed in
both meetings, so anyone could make use of the mailing lists to
discuss any concern if they are not able to attend one of the meetings
in person.

Historically, in Ubuntu, bug triaging and QA have been very
interconnected and often confused, by bringing that separation to it
we are increasing our chances of success in doing better testing and
better triaging, in my opinion. We'll help you with you time problem
if you cannot attend some of the meetings, and we will consider
compressing both meetings to 30 mins each if that is all the time that
is required, let's see how it goes and how much time is really
necessary for each once they are established in their new formats.

Thanks,
Gema
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Re: New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:29:35 +
Gema Gomez gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:

 On 30/11/11 15:11, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
  On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:02:36 + Gema Gomez
  gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:
  
  Dear all,
  
  we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC,
  right before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.
  
  Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we
  will give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at
  the moment in the QA Team.
  
  Find the temporary agenda in the usual place: 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
  
  Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and
  let's discuss them.
  
  See you there, Gema
  
  
  
  
  I do not like this new meeting thing. For me, as a derivative QA,
  it now costs me two hours for the QA meeting, since I am all of QA
  for Xubuntu. We don't have two people, nor do we really have a need
  for two people.
  
 
 Thanks for bringing this up, Charlie. You are one of the few people
 that were present in most meetings, and as you know, we didn't have a
 lot of outside presence in them. This, and the changes that are
 undergoing in QA, that require more focus, are the reasons why we are
 changing the format of the meetings. Maybe, by bringing the right
 attention to QA and the right attention to bugs, we can increase the
 QA community and find someone that can help you as well.
 
 We are going to document and publish everything that is discussed in
 both meetings, so anyone could make use of the mailing lists to
 discuss any concern if they are not able to attend one of the meetings
 in person.
 
 Historically, in Ubuntu, bug triaging and QA have been very
 interconnected and often confused, by bringing that separation to it
 we are increasing our chances of success in doing better testing and
 better triaging, in my opinion. We'll help you with you time problem
 if you cannot attend some of the meetings, and we will consider
 compressing both meetings to 30 mins each if that is all the time that
 is required, let's see how it goes and how much time is really
 necessary for each once they are established in their new formats.
 
 Thanks,
 Gema

Thank you. I don't the length of the meeting matters so much, if I
have to plan to be in #ubuntu-meeting at both 17:00 and 18:00 UTC. That
takes a big chunk out of day.

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Re: New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
On 30/11/11 15:02, Gema Gomez wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC, right
 before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.
 
 Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we will
 give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at the moment in
 the QA Team.
 
 Find the temporary agenda in the usual place:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and let's
 discuss them.
 
 See you there,
 Gema
 
 
 

The meeting happened at the agreed time. Big thanks to everyone that
attended.

There was conversation around how to get people collaborating with
automated testing, we will keep you all posted on the progress. For
those of you who are developers as well as testers, there will be plenty
of opportunity to contribute test code.

Meeting logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/QA/2030

Thanks,
Gema

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