Re: "The crash belongs to a package that is not installed." ???

2012-09-26 Thread Brendan Donegan

On 26/09/12 15:23, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:

On 09/26/2012 06:02 AM, Brendan Donegan wrote:

On 25/09/12 15:54, Brian Murray wrote:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:44:25AM +0200, Gabor Toth wrote:

Just a question here.

 From time to time I get a system crash window popping up and saying
that there was a crash.  I click on send the report - of course - and
then it comes up with another window saying "The crash belongs to a
package that is not installed."

I do not get it.  How can a package crash that is not even installed?
Can anyone light my way in this?

Knowing what the contents of /var/crash is would be helpful in
determining which application crashed.  For example:

/var/crash/_usr_share_apport_apportcheckresume.1000.crash

indicates the application /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume crashed
and I know that is a part of apport.  (You could check via dpkg -S
/usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume.)  Then I can use apt-cache policy
to see if apport is installed:

apport:
   Installed: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4
   Candidate: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4

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Something similar happens when the version of the package that 
crashed does not match the one in the archive. It is intended to stop 
bugs from being reported on old package versions, but the text is 
deeply confusing. I wonder is it that?


Brendan, afaik, it's there to prevent reporting crashes against old 
package versions (since the new version may have a fix, etc). Makes 
sense of course -- what's confusing about the message?


Nicholas

I meant the text is deeply confusing if that is the reason for the 
failure Gabor saw


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Re: "The crash belongs to a package that is not installed." ???

2012-09-26 Thread Brian Murray
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0100, Brendan Donegan wrote:
> On 25/09/12 15:54, Brian Murray wrote:
> >On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:44:25AM +0200, Gabor Toth wrote:
> >>Just a question here.
> >>
> >> From time to time I get a system crash window popping up and saying
> >>that there was a crash.  I click on send the report - of course - and
> >>then it comes up with another window saying "The crash belongs to a
> >>package that is not installed."
> >>
> >>I do not get it.  How can a package crash that is not even installed?
> >>Can anyone light my way in this?
> >Knowing what the contents of /var/crash is would be helpful in
> >determining which application crashed.  For example:
> >
> >/var/crash/_usr_share_apport_apportcheckresume.1000.crash
> >
> >indicates the application /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume crashed
> >and I know that is a part of apport.  (You could check via dpkg -S
> >/usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume.)  Then I can use apt-cache policy
> >to see if apport is installed:
> >
> >apport:
> >   Installed: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4
> >   Candidate: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4
> >
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> >Brian Murray
> >Ubuntu Bug Master
> >
> Something similar happens when the version of the package that
> crashed does not match the one in the archive. It is intended to
> stop bugs from being reported on old package versions, but the text
> is deeply confusing. I wonder is it that?

Are you referring to this Unreportable Reason?

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/apport/quantal/view/head:/apport/ui.py#L122

That doesn't seem terribly confusing to me.  If it isn't that particular
reason search for other Unreportable Reason instances and please let me
know which one is confusing.

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Re: "The crash belongs to a package that is not installed." ???

2012-09-26 Thread Nicholas Skaggs

On 09/26/2012 06:02 AM, Brendan Donegan wrote:

On 25/09/12 15:54, Brian Murray wrote:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:44:25AM +0200, Gabor Toth wrote:

Just a question here.

 From time to time I get a system crash window popping up and saying
that there was a crash.  I click on send the report - of course - and
then it comes up with another window saying "The crash belongs to a
package that is not installed."

I do not get it.  How can a package crash that is not even installed?
Can anyone light my way in this?

Knowing what the contents of /var/crash is would be helpful in
determining which application crashed.  For example:

/var/crash/_usr_share_apport_apportcheckresume.1000.crash

indicates the application /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume crashed
and I know that is a part of apport.  (You could check via dpkg -S
/usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume.)  Then I can use apt-cache policy
to see if apport is installed:

apport:
   Installed: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4
   Candidate: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4

--
Brian Murray
Ubuntu Bug Master

Something similar happens when the version of the package that crashed 
does not match the one in the archive. It is intended to stop bugs 
from being reported on old package versions, but the text is deeply 
confusing. I wonder is it that?


Brendan, afaik, it's there to prevent reporting crashes against old 
package versions (since the new version may have a fix, etc). Makes 
sense of course -- what's confusing about the message?


Nicholas

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Re: "The crash belongs to a package that is not installed." ???

2012-09-26 Thread Brendan Donegan

On 25/09/12 15:54, Brian Murray wrote:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:44:25AM +0200, Gabor Toth wrote:

Just a question here.

 From time to time I get a system crash window popping up and saying
that there was a crash.  I click on send the report - of course - and
then it comes up with another window saying "The crash belongs to a
package that is not installed."

I do not get it.  How can a package crash that is not even installed?
Can anyone light my way in this?

Knowing what the contents of /var/crash is would be helpful in
determining which application crashed.  For example:

/var/crash/_usr_share_apport_apportcheckresume.1000.crash

indicates the application /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume crashed
and I know that is a part of apport.  (You could check via dpkg -S
/usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume.)  Then I can use apt-cache policy
to see if apport is installed:

apport:
   Installed: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4
   Candidate: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4

--
Brian Murray
Ubuntu Bug Master

Something similar happens when the version of the package that crashed 
does not match the one in the archive. It is intended to stop bugs from 
being reported on old package versions, but the text is deeply 
confusing. I wonder is it that?


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Re: "The crash belongs to a package that is not installed." ???

2012-09-25 Thread Brian Murray
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:44:25AM +0200, Gabor Toth wrote:
> Just a question here.
> 
> From time to time I get a system crash window popping up and saying
> that there was a crash.  I click on send the report - of course - and
> then it comes up with another window saying "The crash belongs to a
> package that is not installed."
> 
> I do not get it.  How can a package crash that is not even installed?
> Can anyone light my way in this?

Knowing what the contents of /var/crash is would be helpful in
determining which application crashed.  For example:

/var/crash/_usr_share_apport_apportcheckresume.1000.crash

indicates the application /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume crashed
and I know that is a part of apport.  (You could check via dpkg -S
/usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume.)  Then I can use apt-cache policy
to see if apport is installed:

apport:
  Installed: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2.5.2-0ubuntu4

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Ubuntu Bug Master

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