Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

2012-10-31 Thread chris hermansen
Gabor;

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,


 Why don't we just keep the modified files?

I think this is a great suggestion: put the modified files in
/home/username/OldVersions/

ie treat the /home/username/OldVersions as root relative to the files
to be changed.

or something similar.

This would let the user go back and change her/his configuration at
leisure, not in the middle of an upgrade.


 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
 opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
 Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way.

The problem with the missing menu in LibreOffice is a known bug
#1064962 if I am not wrong.  Quite frustrating but there is a
workaround.

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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

2012-10-29 Thread Gabor Toth
Hi Charlie,

Yea, I know and I can indeed burn them onto a DVD and/or put on USB. 
Looking again the Ubuntu main website it actually do say that you need
USB or DVD.  I was just not aware of that change - until now it was CD. 
Anyhow, fair enough, I need to get some DVDs then.

Best,

Gabor Toth

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On 10/29/2012 02:03 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
 Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
 indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I
 feel should be changed in future releases:
 During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
 message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and
 offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one.  I can
 look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I actually did
 not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do
 and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the
 upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do I miss
 out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people
 who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
 choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. 
 Why don't we just keep the modified files?
 Just a point to make.

 Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have
 also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
 them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
 someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases
 said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that so?  Are
 the images too big for CD?
 When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is
 the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
 Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
 for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.

 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification
 area under the envelop.  Actually after the reboot, that completed the
 upgrade, the envelop and its menu was missing too entirely.  Then when
 I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the envelop came and it is there
 since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
 Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine
 though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty installed on
 the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in
 that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug against
 the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.

 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
 opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
 Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. 
 The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed mode or the
 smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time it just
 worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
 reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange. 
 Wanted to report it here.

 Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and
 the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
 congrats for whoever choose them.

 I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
 something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.

 Have a nice day.

 Gabor,




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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

2012-10-29 Thread Phill Whiteside
Ubuntu have dropped CD sized images with 12.10. If the host computer can
only read a CD (i.e. no usb boot either) then a net-install would have to
be used.

Regards,

Phill

Regards,

Phill.

On 29 October 2012 13:03, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.comwrote:

 On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
 Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
  indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I
  feel should be changed in future releases:
  During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
  message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and
  offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one.  I can
  look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I actually did
  not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do
  and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the
  upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do I miss
  out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people
  who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
  choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask.
  Why don't we just keep the modified files?
  Just a point to make.
 
  Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
  1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have
  also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
  them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
  someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases
  said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that so?  Are
  the images too big for CD?

 When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is
 the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
 Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
 for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.

 
  2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification
  area under the envelop.  Actually after the reboot, that completed the
  upgrade, the envelop and its menu was missing too entirely.  Then when
  I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the envelop came and it is there
  since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
  Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine
  though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty installed on
  the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in
  that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug against
  the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.
 
  3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
  opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files,
  Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way.
  The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed mode or the
  smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time it just
  worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
  reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange.
  Wanted to report it here.
 
  Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and
  the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
  congrats for whoever choose them.
 
  I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
  something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.
 
  Have a nice day.
 
  Gabor,
 


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Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10

2012-10-29 Thread Gabor Toth
Got that and all right!  Thanks for the info, somewhere I've missed it
before.

I would think though then the DVD images could be filled up with more
stuff.  It is just a bit over a CD image and lot's of space for more
stuff - language packs, more aps, etc.  No?  Just an idea...


Gabor Toth

E-mail: gabor...@gmail.com   Phone: +45-2163-4983

On 10/29/2012 02:09 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
 Ubuntu have dropped CD sized images with 12.10. If the host computer
 can only read a CD (i.e. no usb boot either) then a net-install would
 have to be used. 

 Regards,

 Phill

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On 29 October 2012 13:03, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com
 mailto:c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100
 Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com mailto:gabor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth
  indeed.  There is one comment I would make on the upgrade
 process that I
  feel should be changed in future releases:
  During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a
  message came up saying that I have modified some configuration
 files and
  offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new
 one.  I can
  look what the difference is.  Now, while it seems fine, I
 actually did
  not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do
 they do
  and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus
 using the
  upgrade version.  What do I loose by not keeping?  If I keep do
 I miss
  out some features? The process does not give data on it and for
 people
  who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would
  choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to
 even ask.
  Why don't we just keep the modified files?
  Just a point to make.
 
  Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though:
  1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I
 have
  also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386.  I like to have
  them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for
  someone else.  When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both
 cases
  said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?!  Is that
 so?  Are
  the images too big for CD?

 When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ,
 which is
 the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit
 Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big
 for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though.

 
  2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the
 notification
  area under the envelop.  Actually after the reboot, that
 completed the
  upgrade, the envelop and its menu was missing too entirely.
  Then when
  I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the envelop came and it is there
  since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and
  Gwibber.  I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs
 fine
  though, but does not appear there.  BTW I also have Emphaty
 installed on
  the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did
 appear in
  that menu and now it is not there.  I have filed this as a bug
 against
  the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though.
 
  3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time.  When I
  opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu
 (Files,
  Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in
 any way.
  The menu was missing!  It was not there in the full windowed
 mode or the
  smaller one either.  Then I closed it and when started next time
 it just
  worked fine and does so since.  Did not file a bug as I can not
  reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there.  Kind of strange.
  Wanted to report it here.
 
  Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just
 fine and
  the system is smooth as butter.  I love the new background images,
  congrats for whoever choose them.
 
  I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do
  something.  Testing, additional data, anything.  Let me know.
 
  Have a nice day.
 
  Gabor,
 


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