Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10
Gabor; On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Why don't we just keep the modified files? I think this is a great suggestion: put the modified files in /home/username/OldVersions/ ie treat the /home/username/OldVersions as root relative to the files to be changed. or something similar. This would let the user go back and change her/his configuration at leisure, not in the middle of an upgrade. 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time. When I opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files, Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. The problem with the missing menu in LibreOffice is a known bug #1064962 if I am not wrong. Quite frustrating but there is a workaround. -- Chris Hermansen · clherman...@gmail.com C'est ma façon de parler. -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10
Hi Charlie, Yea, I know and I can indeed burn them onto a DVD and/or put on USB. Looking again the Ubuntu main website it actually do say that you need USB or DVD. I was just not aware of that change - until now it was CD. Anyhow, fair enough, I need to get some DVDs then. Best, Gabor Toth E-mail: gabor...@gmail.com Phone: +45-2163-4983 On 10/29/2012 02:03 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100 Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth indeed. There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I feel should be changed in future releases: During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one. I can look what the difference is. Now, while it seems fine, I actually did not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the upgrade version. What do I loose by not keeping? If I keep do I miss out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. Why don't we just keep the modified files? Just a point to make. Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though: 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386. I like to have them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for someone else. When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?! Is that so? Are the images too big for CD? When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though. 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification area under the envelop. Actually after the reboot, that completed the upgrade, the envelop and its menu was missing too entirely. Then when I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the envelop came and it is there since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and Gwibber. I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine though, but does not appear there. BTW I also have Emphaty installed on the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in that menu and now it is not there. I have filed this as a bug against the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though. 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time. When I opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files, Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. The menu was missing! It was not there in the full windowed mode or the smaller one either. Then I closed it and when started next time it just worked fine and does so since. Did not file a bug as I can not reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there. Kind of strange. Wanted to report it here. Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and the system is smooth as butter. I love the new background images, congrats for whoever choose them. I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do something. Testing, additional data, anything. Let me know. Have a nice day. Gabor, -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10
Ubuntu have dropped CD sized images with 12.10. If the host computer can only read a CD (i.e. no usb boot either) then a net-install would have to be used. Regards, Phill Regards, Phill. On 29 October 2012 13:03, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.comwrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100 Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth indeed. There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I feel should be changed in future releases: During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one. I can look what the difference is. Now, while it seems fine, I actually did not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the upgrade version. What do I loose by not keeping? If I keep do I miss out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. Why don't we just keep the modified files? Just a point to make. Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though: 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386. I like to have them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for someone else. When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?! Is that so? Are the images too big for CD? When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though. 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification area under the envelop. Actually after the reboot, that completed the upgrade, the envelop and its menu was missing too entirely. Then when I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the envelop came and it is there since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and Gwibber. I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine though, but does not appear there. BTW I also have Emphaty installed on the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in that menu and now it is not there. I have filed this as a bug against the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though. 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time. When I opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files, Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. The menu was missing! It was not there in the full windowed mode or the smaller one either. Then I closed it and when started next time it just worked fine and does so since. Did not file a bug as I can not reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there. Kind of strange. Wanted to report it here. Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and the system is smooth as butter. I love the new background images, congrats for whoever choose them. I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do something. Testing, additional data, anything. Let me know. Have a nice day. Gabor, -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Glitches on upgrade to 12.10
Got that and all right! Thanks for the info, somewhere I've missed it before. I would think though then the DVD images could be filled up with more stuff. It is just a bit over a CD image and lot's of space for more stuff - language packs, more aps, etc. No? Just an idea... Gabor Toth E-mail: gabor...@gmail.com Phone: +45-2163-4983 On 10/29/2012 02:09 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Ubuntu have dropped CD sized images with 12.10. If the host computer can only read a CD (i.e. no usb boot either) then a net-install would have to be used. Regards, Phill Regards, Phill. On 29 October 2012 13:03, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com mailto:c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:05:24 +0100 Gabor Toth gabor...@gmail.com mailto:gabor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday evening and it went very smooth indeed. There is one comment I would make on the upgrade process that I feel should be changed in future releases: During the process in a number of times (around 15-20 in my case) a message came up saying that I have modified some configuration files and offering me the options to keep mine or change it to the new one. I can look what the difference is. Now, while it seems fine, I actually did not know many of the files where do they belong to or what do they do and did not know what is the consequence if I keep mine versus using the upgrade version. What do I loose by not keeping? If I keep do I miss out some features? The process does not give data on it and for people who are even less knowledgeable it would say nothing so they would choose blindly one or the other option - almost pointless to even ask. Why don't we just keep the modified files? Just a point to make. Now, I do have some issues since upgrade though: 1. Not directly related to upgrade but thought to put it here: I have also downloaded the ISO images of both x64 and i386. I like to have them burned on CD in case I need them and sometimes I install for someone else. When I tried to burn them on CD, Brasero in both cases said that they are two big for burning on a blank CD?! Is that so? Are the images too big for CD? When I browse http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ , which is the Ubuntu 12.10 images, I see file sizes of 763MB for the 64-bit Desktop cd and 753MB for the i386 Desktop cd. That, indeed, is too big for a CD. It can be burned to either a USB drive or DVD, though. 2. Since upgrade Pidgin does not appear in the menu on the notification area under the envelop. Actually after the reboot, that completed the upgrade, the envelop and its menu was missing too entirely. Then when I started Thunderbird and Gwibber the envelop came and it is there since but the only thing that is in the menu is Thinderbird and Gwibber. I do not have Pidgin even when it is running - it runs fine though, but does not appear there. BTW I also have Emphaty installed on the system and while I do not use it, before upgrade it did appear in that menu and now it is not there. I have filed this as a bug against the Pidgin package, not sure if that is the right place though. 3. After upgrade I tried Libreoffice today the first time. When I opened a Calc (table) file it opened fine, however the top menu (Files, Edit, etc.) did not show up integrated into the top bar or in any way. The menu was missing! It was not there in the full windowed mode or the smaller one either. Then I closed it and when started next time it just worked fine and does so since. Did not file a bug as I can not reproduce, but right after upgrade it was there. Kind of strange. Wanted to report it here. Other than the above issues everything seems to be running just fine and the system is smooth as butter. I love the new background images, congrats for whoever choose them. I would be glad to assist to fix any of the above ones if I can do something. Testing, additional data, anything. Let me know. Have a nice day. Gabor, -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings