Re: The Final Straw
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 3:11 PM, tanmoy gope wrote: > m not fake :) was busy doing college projects. yup dere was a mistake > as i replied dis same thingh in 3 mails sorry for dat > no problem if u remove me. i was nly trying 2 learn how 2 help open source > community. Could you please refrain from substituting numbers for letters and "d" for "th"? I'm a native English speaker and having trouble reading this; I can only imagine the trouble the non-native speakers are having. Thanks. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
Oops, I spoke too soon, sorry! On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 3:11 PM, tanmoy gope wrote: > m not fake :) was busy doing college projects. yup dere was a mistake > as i replied dis same thingh in 3 mails sorry for dat > no problem if u remove me. i was nly trying 2 learn how 2 help open source > community. > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Andruk Tatum wrote: > >> I believe the last poster is a fake, as this is the third thread in >> ubuntu-qa where this message was copied verbatim; would it be possible to >> remove this poster's membership if this is the case? >> >> Thanks mods! >> -- @ >> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:19 PM, tanmoy gope wrote: >> >>> respected sir/madam >>> >>> m very new 2 dis stuff. can ny1 tell me nything dat i can do n how 2 >>> start. i jst luv opensource. want 2 contribute to communitym studying >>> computers in college.hav done n+ ccna n mcsa. >>> thank u >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> Ubuntu-qa mailing list >>> Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-qa mailing list >> Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa >> >> > -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
I believe the last poster is a fake, as this is the third thread in ubuntu-qa where this message was copied verbatim; would it be possible to remove this poster's membership if this is the case? Thanks mods! -- @ On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:19 PM, tanmoy gope wrote: > respected sir/madam > > m very new 2 dis stuff. can ny1 tell me nything dat i can do n how 2 start. > i jst luv opensource. want 2 contribute to communitym studying computers in > college.hav done n+ ccna n mcsa. > thank u > > -- > Ubuntu-qa mailing list > Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa > > -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
respected sir/madam m very new 2 dis stuff. can ny1 tell me nything dat i can do n how 2 start. i jst luv opensource. want 2 contribute to communitym studying computers in college.hav done n+ ccna n mcsa. thank u On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre < mathieu...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Bruce Miller > wrote: > > I have been considering for some time filing a bug report about nvidia > and my > > monitor. I will hold off, for the time being, pending a reply to this > > message. What I would appreciate is knowing exactly what info itwould be > most > > useful to provide. > > > [...] > > I shall try booting into a recovery console to see what can be salvaged. > If I > > cannot manage anything, I will re-install. If that continues to leave me > unable > > to bring up 1920 x 1200, please let me know what information would be > most > > useful to help troubleshoot the problem. Should I do it here? or in a bug > > report? or both? > > Hi Bruce, > > What you're describing doesn't seem to me like quite the same problem. > In any case, please default to filing a bug (the ubuntu-bug command is > great for this!). It's easy for developers to go back to it and mark > it as a duplicate later anyway, and it makes sure we get the > information about your specific problem and that we can work on fixing > it by having all the information that pertains to that case: hardware > model, PCI IDs, etc. > > Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre > Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com > 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 > > -- > Ubuntu-qa mailing list > Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa > -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Bruce Miller wrote: > I have been considering for some time filing a bug report about nvidia and my > monitor. I will hold off, for the time being, pending a reply to this > message. What I would appreciate is knowing exactly what info itwould be most > useful to provide. > [...] > I shall try booting into a recovery console to see what can be salvaged. If I > cannot manage anything, I will re-install. If that continues to leave me > unable > to bring up 1920 x 1200, please let me know what information would be most > useful to help troubleshoot the problem. Should I do it here? or in a bug > report? or both? Hi Bruce, What you're describing doesn't seem to me like quite the same problem. In any case, please default to filing a bug (the ubuntu-bug command is great for this!). It's easy for developers to go back to it and mark it as a duplicate later anyway, and it makes sure we get the information about your specific problem and that we can work on fixing it by having all the information that pertains to that case: hardware model, PCI IDs, etc. Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
- Original Message > From: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre > To: Michael Haney > Cc: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 2:55:20 PM > Subject: Re: The Final Straw > > Hi Michael, > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Michael Haney wrote: > [...] > > Manually editing the xorg.conf file is the only option at this point, > > but its not something the average user can do on their own, so many > > Right. Even with experience doing this type of thing I constantly find > myself having to search for the syntax rules to write the right parts > of config to do what I want to do, and it's never a pleasant > experience. > > [...] > > submitted a Bug Report about the problem and even posted in the Ubuntu > > QA list about it, I've begged and pleased, and for more than a year > > now there's been nothing done. No progress has been made to fix this > > issue at all. Its considered a "low priority", yet more people than I > > can count have been effected by this problem. > > Could you please respond with the bug report number again? I know > you're posted in on the list before, but I believe this would have > much more benefit than petitions. It's good that you bring it up here, > and it's good that you feel strongly about this, because with some > additional work and by helping and inviting other users with the same > issues to come up and let us know about it is how you can really drive > this forward. Personally I'd be very interested in looking at the bug > report to see if something can be distilled from it -- like a pattern > of specific hardware that has the issue. > > My suggestion for you, without having seen the bug report yet, would > be to ask the people who have signed your petition (if you can contact > them again) to add information to your bug report with the make and > model of monitor they use, as well as the make and model of graphics > card. Opening new bugs and/or pointing to their own bug report is good > too. That way we can know for sure whether you are part of a small > group of unlucky people with Panashiba monitors that don't return > valid EDID information, or a larger group of people with specialized > equipment that we hadn't heard about before. > > Kind regards, > > Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre > Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com > 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 I have been considering for some time filing a bug report about nvidia and my monitor. I will hold off, for the time being, pending a reply to this message. What I would appreciate is knowing exactly what info itwould be most useful to provide. I have been using Kubuntu for many years; if my memory serves me right, I started in late 2005 with Breezy Badger. In early 2006, I upgraded to a Dell 2405 FPW LCD widescreen monitor. I have used this monitors with two different desktops, both with nVidia graphics adapters. The latest is now almost three years old; again, by memory (I am not at home), it is a GS7600. The nVidia card and drivers have always driven the monitor at 1920x1200. This adapter / monitor combination has always worked well with every release of Kubuntu up to and including 10.04 (lucid) --- and until the release of the first development builds of Maverick. In Maverick, I have never once been able to raise the screen resolution beyond 1440 x 1024. I have used both native KDE utilities and nvidia utilities and have re-installed the driver (using the cli utility jockey-text) several times. The Maverick set-up is now entirely foo-barred. A graphical session always fail with the low-res "graphics problem" dialogue; attempts to log into a login virtual console simply leave me staring at a black screen without even so much as a flashing cursor. It has been a while and I cannot recall what happens if I try to boot into a recovery console. Because I know that it is a development release, I do most of my work in Lucid and changes in my personal situation have delayed plans to reinstall Maverick from scratch. I shall try booting into a recovery console to see what can be salvaged. If I cannot manage anything, I will re-install. If that continues to leave me unable to bring up 1920 x 1200, please let me know what information would be most useful to help troubleshoot the problem. Should I do it here? or in a bug report? or both? -- Bruce Miller, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada br...@brmiller.ca; (613) 745-1151 Just when you think your software is idiot proof, somebody comes up with a better idiot Keyboard not found...Press any key to continue. -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
Hi Michael, On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Michael Haney wrote: [...] > Manually editing the xorg.conf file is the only option at this point, > but its not something the average user can do on their own, so many Right. Even with experience doing this type of thing I constantly find myself having to search for the syntax rules to write the right parts of config to do what I want to do, and it's never a pleasant experience. [...] > submitted a Bug Report about the problem and even posted in the Ubuntu > QA list about it, I've begged and pleased, and for more than a year > now there's been nothing done. No progress has been made to fix this > issue at all. Its considered a "low priority", yet more people than I > can count have been effected by this problem. Could you please respond with the bug report number again? I know you're posted in on the list before, but I believe this would have much more benefit than petitions. It's good that you bring it up here, and it's good that you feel strongly about this, because with some additional work and by helping and inviting other users with the same issues to come up and let us know about it is how you can really drive this forward. Personally I'd be very interested in looking at the bug report to see if something can be distilled from it -- like a pattern of specific hardware that has the issue. My suggestion for you, without having seen the bug report yet, would be to ask the people who have signed your petition (if you can contact them again) to add information to your bug report with the make and model of monitor they use, as well as the make and model of graphics card. Opening new bugs and/or pointing to their own bug report is good too. That way we can know for sure whether you are part of a small group of unlucky people with Panashiba monitors that don't return valid EDID information, or a larger group of people with specialized equipment that we hadn't heard about before. Kind regards, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: The Final Straw
I don't know if this is the case for you but with my nvidia hardware I need to use the nvidia X Server settings program to change the resolution and such. It is under System > Administration. ATI probably has a similar solution. If you run the program from the command line as root it will allow you to save the settings to xorg.conf On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Michael Haney wrote: > Several versions ago Ubuntu once had a feature where you could go to > the same window where you selected your screen resolution, then click > on a tab and manually select your monitor hardware. After this > feature was removed myself a very large number of others have had > problems with Ubuntu. The main problem is we cannot install the 3D > accelerated drivers, because if we do our screen resolution is limited > to an unusable 640x480. > > Manually editing the xorg.conf file is the only option at this point, > but its not something the average user can do on their own, so many > give up. I've seen a lot of new users throw up their hands in disgust > and abandon ever trying Ubuntu because of this problem. I've > submitted a Bug Report about the problem and even posted in the Ubuntu > QA list about it, I've begged and pleased, and for more than a year > now there's been nothing done. No progress has been made to fix this > issue at all. Its considered a "low priority", yet more people than I > can count have been effected by this problem. > > So, I created a Petition to force the issue. > > http://www.petitiononline.com/ubu2010/petition.html > > If this doesn't work I'll make another one and another and another > until someone at Canonical finally pulls their head out of the sand > and realizes something needs to be done to fix this. > > -- > Michael "TheZorch" Haney > "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking > of morality by religion." ~ Arthur C. Clarke > "The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and > politics, but it is not the path to knowledge, and there is no place > for it in the endeavor of science. " ~ Carl Sagan > > Visit My Site: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1 > To Contact Me: > http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1/zorch-central---contacts > > Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com > > -- > Ubuntu-qa mailing list > Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa > -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
The Final Straw
Several versions ago Ubuntu once had a feature where you could go to the same window where you selected your screen resolution, then click on a tab and manually select your monitor hardware. After this feature was removed myself a very large number of others have had problems with Ubuntu. The main problem is we cannot install the 3D accelerated drivers, because if we do our screen resolution is limited to an unusable 640x480. Manually editing the xorg.conf file is the only option at this point, but its not something the average user can do on their own, so many give up. I've seen a lot of new users throw up their hands in disgust and abandon ever trying Ubuntu because of this problem. I've submitted a Bug Report about the problem and even posted in the Ubuntu QA list about it, I've begged and pleased, and for more than a year now there's been nothing done. No progress has been made to fix this issue at all. Its considered a "low priority", yet more people than I can count have been effected by this problem. So, I created a Petition to force the issue. http://www.petitiononline.com/ubu2010/petition.html If this doesn't work I'll make another one and another and another until someone at Canonical finally pulls their head out of the sand and realizes something needs to be done to fix this. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion." ~ Arthur C. Clarke "The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge, and there is no place for it in the endeavor of science. " ~ Carl Sagan Visit My Site: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1 To Contact Me: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1/zorch-central---contacts Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
