Re: Some clarifying questions

2013-04-14 Thread Jose I Diaz Bardales


Ho and Phil!

Thank you for your comments, but I think I was not able to articulate my 
questions correctly.


When it comes to test images I can use VM, a USB or a DVD on any type of 
Hardware, right?


But I have want to test my Laptop **not an image** then I have to use 
the hardware of my laptop not a VM. See the wiki for more information 
-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures


Base on the information above, I need to test the laptop with an image, 
and here comes my next question what image do I use, the devolopment or 
stable image?


I hope this will not create more confusion.

Again, thank you!



On 04/14/2013 12:18 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

Hi Jose,

do please let me know where you read that you cannot run a VM on a 
laptop, as this will come as a big shock to my laptop which has been 
running VM's for a couple of years!


I use kvm (virtual-manager) as it is F/OSS unlike virtual-box. We held 
some sessions on using virtual machines during 12.10 [1] These will be 
re-done in 13.04 as several bugs were found and have been fixed for 
13.04. I'm also planning doing a classroom session on using LVM [2].


Regards,

Phill.
1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom
2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm

On 14 April 2013 02:42, Jose I. Diaz Bardales 
jose.dbarda...@gmail.com mailto:jose.dbarda...@gmail.com wrote:


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Hello everyone!

As I keep reading all the wiki pages about quality, some questions
have emerged. If I read correctly I can test images, (which I have
been doing lately) individual packages, and laptops. Is this correct?

I also fond out that besides a usb I can also use a dvd or VM to test
the image, right? and I can do Install, Live and Post-Install tests .

Also the image can be either the development image(Raring) or the
stable image(Precise)

I read somewhere in the wiki that when it comes to laptops I can not
use a VM so I have to use the usb or dvd to do a Live test of
images, right? (I do not have an extra laptop) or do a Install and
Post-Install in a VM of an image only and not a laptop test. Is this
correct?

Thanks in advance!
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memory needed for Lubuntu tested with vbox

2013-04-14 Thread Nio Wiklund
I want to share these results from testing to install and run Lubuntu
with low memory. I was using today's daily build of Lubuntu Raring
desktop and alternate iso files.

See the attached file. Comments are welcome :-)

Best regards
Nio alias sudodus


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Re: Raring Release Hangout

2013-04-14 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
I like the idea as well. I am  in Connecticut EDT time and will try to make
the 2200 UTC session. If it is possible I like to join the hangout to give
a tutorial on testing the kubuntu images.

Istimsak Abdulbasir


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.comwrote:

 sounds good, i'll try and attend, talk about testdrive.
 the only problem is that coincides with ANZAC day, something i can't
 really avoid


 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Jose I. Diaz Bardales 
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 On 04/12/2013 01:17 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
  Hello all! There has been some discussion on the IRC channel to
  have a release event aimed at quality. We want to celebrate and
  share the work we've done (and will do ;-0) in order to help make
  raring a success.
 
  So with that in mind, I'd like to know everyone's thoughts about
  having a hangout on air with the following agenda (we'll be in IRC
  too of course!):
 
  -- ~5 min sessions for Demoing something you've done / Talking
  about something cool (new stuff in raring? cool testing tool?) /
  Sharing your testing setup. We would encourage folks to signup for
  a slot, but we'll take walk-ons :-) If you've been to a UDS, we'll
  run this similar to lightning talks -- Q  A with me -- Virtual
  Release Party!
 
  The date of April 26th has also been proposed. What dates and times
  work for everyone? If there's enough interest, I am happy to have
  2 hangouts.. one around 2200 UTC, and another at like 1400 UTC to
  try and cover everyone across the world :-)
 
  What other ideas does everyone have? Any other topics you would
  like to see discussed? Would you rather see something besides a
  hangout?
 
  Comments? Feedback? Discuss!
 
  Nicholas

 Hello Nicholas!

 Love the idea and April 26th at 1400-UTC sounds good to me =)






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Re: Some clarifying questions

2013-04-14 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
Jose,

You can test an image using either VM, USB or DVD. Those options are still
available if you are just testing the logical (software) of the OS.

If you want to see confirm your laptop's hardware is works with ubuntu,
then you want to test the ubuntu images on bare metal, which means run the
images from a DVD or USB and run checkbox. The same thing can be done with
a PC.

Istimsak Abdulbasir


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Jose I Diaz Bardales 
jose.dbarda...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ho and Phil!

 Thank you for your comments, but I think I was not able to articulate my
 questions correctly.

 When it comes to test images I can use VM, a USB or a DVD on any type of
 Hardware, right?

 But I have want to test my Laptop **not an image** then I have to use the
 hardware of my laptop not a VM. See the wiki for more information --
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures

 Base on the information above, I need to test the laptop with an image,
 and here comes my next question what image do I use, the devolopment or
 stable image?

 I hope this will not create more confusion.

 Again, thank you!



 On 04/14/2013 12:18 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Hi Jose,

  do please let me know where you read that you cannot run a VM on a
 laptop, as this will come as a big shock to my laptop which has been
 running VM's for a couple of years!

  I use kvm (virtual-manager) as it is F/OSS unlike virtual-box. We held
 some sessions on using virtual machines during 12.10 [1] These will be
 re-done in 13.04 as several bugs were found and have been fixed for 13.04.
 I'm also planning doing a classroom session on using LVM [2].

  Regards,

  Phill.
 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom
 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm

 On 14 April 2013 02:42, Jose I. Diaz Bardales jose.dbarda...@gmail.comwrote:

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 Hello everyone!

 As I keep reading all the wiki pages about quality, some questions
 have emerged. If I read correctly I can test images, (which I have
 been doing lately) individual packages, and laptops. Is this correct?

 I also fond out that besides a usb I can also use a dvd or VM to test
 the image, right? and I can do Install, Live and Post-Install tests .

 Also the image can be either the development image(Raring) or the
 stable image(Precise)

 I read somewhere in the wiki that when it comes to laptops I can not
 use a VM so I have to use the usb or dvd to do a Live test of
 images, right? (I do not have an extra laptop) or do a Install and
 Post-Install in a VM of an image only and not a laptop test. Is this
 correct?

 Thanks in advance!
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dist-upgrade in ubuntu

2013-04-14 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
Is this right command to update a ubuntu system?

sudo dist-upgrade #not sure if I spelled it right

What is the difference from apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?

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Re: dist-upgrade in ubuntu

2013-04-14 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
From the man pages for apt:-

*sudo apt-get upgrade*
*
*
*upgrade *is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently
installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
/etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new versions
available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently
installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and
installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be
upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be
left at their current version. An update must be performed first so that
apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.

*sudo apt-get dist-upgrade*
*
**dist-upgrade* in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also
intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages;
apt-get has a smart conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to
upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones
if necessary. So, dist-upgrade command may remove some packages. The
/etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from which to
retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism
for overriding the general settings for individual packages.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Istimsak Abdulbasir
saqman2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is this right command to update a ubuntu system?

 sudo dist-upgrade #not sure if I spelled it right

 What is the difference from apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?

 Istimak Abdulbasir

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Re: dist-upgrade in ubuntu

2013-04-14 Thread José Antonio Rey
And sudo do-release-upgrade upgrades the release itself.

On 04/14/2013 07:03 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
 From the man pages for apt:-
 
 *sudo apt-get upgrade*
 *
 *
 *upgrade *is used to install the newest versions of all packages
 currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
 /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new versions
 available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are
 currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed
 retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages
 that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another
 package will be left at their current version. An update must be
 performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of packages are
 available.
 
 *sudo apt-get dist-upgrade*
 *
 **dist-upgrade* in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also
 intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of
 packages; apt-get has a smart conflict resolution system, and it will
 attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less
 important ones if necessary. So, dist-upgrade command may remove some
 packages. The /etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations
 from which to retrieve desired package files. See also
 apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism for overriding the general settings
 for individual packages.
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Istimsak Abdulbasir
 saqman2...@gmail.com mailto:saqman2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is this right command to update a ubuntu system?
 
 sudo dist-upgrade #not sure if I spelled it right
 
 What is the difference from apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?
 
 Istimak Abdulbasir
 
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