Hi Gabor,

Funnily enough I stumbled across a blog post yesterday that may have the
answer about that:
http://web.dodds.net/~vorlon/wiki/blog/Plymouth_is_not_a_bootsplash/

Considering Plymouth is the boot time I/O multiplexer, I understand it is
the package that is responsible for scheduling the different events that
happen at startup and shutdown so I would file your bugs #2 and #3 under
plymouth.

Bruno


On 8 May 2013 10:57, Gabor Toth <gabor...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi Bruno,
>
> Thanks.  Sounds correct.  Would be good to have some idea under what
> package to file those bugs.
>
> G
>
>
>  On 05/08/2013 01:14 AM, Bruno Girin wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Gabor,
>
>  I've had all the problems you describe except #4.
>
> For #1 I doubt it's an issue with RAM or swap as I've had it on a machine
> with 8GB RAM that was only running a couple of applications. I suspect it
> may be a remnant of the GPU hang issue with Intel integrated graphics [1]
> but I don't know how to analyse the problem to confirm that.
>
>  For #2 and #3, the intermittent nature of the problem seems to suggest a
> race condition in startup and shutdown. I have no idea what package to
> report that against nor do I know how to debug that sort of problems.
>
>  Maybe someone on the QA team can help with suggestions on how to
> investigate?
>
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1140716
>
>  Cheers,
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
> On 6 May 2013 22:20, Gabor Toth <gabor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Yea, that is how far I got with my guessing.  4 GB RAM should be
>> enough, especially as I have 6 or 8 GB Swap.  Never before did I run out of
>> that.
>>
>> Anyhow, as I said I would be willing to file the reports, just need a
>> hint under what package do I do it.  This is why I wrote here.  If there is
>> another list I should write to please let me know too.  I am willing to put
>> time and work into this so it can be fixed for all  (including me of course 
>> ;-)
>> )
>>
>> G
>>
>>
>>  On 05/06/2013 11:16 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:
>>
>> sorry, i don't know. i'm guessing "1" was a lack of RAM/Swap
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Gabor Toth <gabor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> Any suggestion under what package do I file the bug?  I have actually no
>>> idea what, especially on point 1, I do not know what froze the system up.
>>> Same on 2 and 3.  On 4 I guess that is the Alsa package, or something
>>> else?  Can you give me some suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>>  On 05/06/2013 11:09 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:
>>>
>>> file bugs for everything, then try and see if they affect quantal or
>>> saucy as well.
>>> use "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE" to file bugs.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Gabor Toth <gabor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I have been running 12.10 and it was very stable for me.  Then
>>>> recently upgraded to 13.04 and while the upgrade went well and I like the
>>>> new stuff and changes (not a lot, but still nice) there a number of bugs
>>>> which I was a bit startled about and did not know what bug report to file
>>>> or how to go about reporting it.  I have some time I could spend helping on
>>>> the fixing of these and thus please feel free to shoot at me things that I
>>>> should do to provide more data or test things and so on.  As a general data
>>>> I am running UBUNTU 13.04 on a Dell Inspirion 17R with 4 Gb RAM.  I also
>>>> have an external screen, an LG small flat screen TV connected through
>>>> HDMI.  Here is the list:
>>>>
>>>>    1. Since installation the system froze up entirely 3 times.  The
>>>>    last time I had Google Chrome, GIMP, Libreoffice Writer open and I was 
>>>> just
>>>>    talking on Skype.  The whole system froze but I could still continue 
>>>> speak
>>>>    on Skype - it was weird.  Nothing worked from there.  The mouse moved, 
>>>> but
>>>>    no response to clicks.  Tried Ctrl+Alt+F1 - no response, beside some 
>>>> hard
>>>>    disk activity, but no change on the screen.  Then tried Ctrl+Alt+Del a
>>>>    number of times and beside some hard disk activity, no change - or 
>>>> actually
>>>>    the mouse cursor have disappeared.  Had to do a total hard shutdown with
>>>>    the power button kept in for 5 sec.  The system started up normal after.
>>>>    2. Not sure if related to the above, but two times I had a problem
>>>>    with shutting the system down.  I clicked on shut down however during 
>>>> the
>>>>    shut down sequence the system froze or at least did not continue.  The
>>>>    "dots" kept moving like something is still happening, but no hard disk
>>>>    activity, nor anything for a long time.  Once by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del I
>>>>    managed to get the system to restart and then could shut it down 
>>>> properly
>>>>    but the other time I had to use the power button to power off.  Weird.
>>>>    3. Once I had a problem to start the system up.  The graphical
>>>>    screen disappeared and only some text was left on the screen, seemingly
>>>>    frozen.  Then I switched to text mode with Ctrl+Alt+F1, that worked and
>>>>    immediately back to graphical (F7) and I got the graphical login screen 
>>>> and
>>>>    all went fine.
>>>>    4. There seems to be a bug with the sound system.  Originally it
>>>>    worked fine except the fact that I could not direct the sound to the
>>>>    external screen through the HDMI cable.  Seemingly the sound did not
>>>>    recognize that it is there.  Then sometimes after powering the system 
>>>> up I
>>>>    only gout a "Dummy Output" and no sound at all.  I Googled it and found 
>>>> a
>>>>    solution of re-installing the Alsa sound system and that stabilized the
>>>>    sound, it works all the time now, but still no way to use the HDMI 
>>>> output.
>>>>    I am getting a scratchy sound when Skype starts but later on the call 
>>>> sound
>>>>    quality is perfect and also playback sound from all sources (Youtube,
>>>>    Banshee, etc.) are good.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These are the stuff that came with the upgrade to 13.04.  Previously on
>>>> 12.04 and 12.10 the system was working fine and stably and would like to
>>>> put some work into making it again that stable - need some directions
>>>> though.  I can file bug reports or attach files or anything needed and help
>>>> out on the testing just need some directions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Gabor
>>>>
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