Re: Jenkins Failure - saucy-adt-python-qt4 5
Weird, especially since it says there were no changes in the builds, and since the build before and after are all correct... Maybe some connection issues to another repo during the build? But then it would have been notified in the console output... Let us know if you find out! On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > Must of been a mistake > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> This is the first Jenkins failure mail I've gotten. I can't make sense >> of it. >> Was there even a test run? Why was the mail sent? >> >> Scott K >> >> -- Forwarded Message -- >> >> Subject: Jenkins Failure - saucy-adt-python-qt4 5 >> Date: Sunday, June 30, 2013, 08:11:16 AM >> From: Jenkins Notification >> To: ubuntu-testing-notificati...@lists.ubuntu.com, jean- >> baptiste.lallem...@canonical.com, martin.p...@ubuntu.com, >> ubu...@kitterman.com >> >> saucy-adt-python-qt4 - Build # 5 - Failure: >> >> Public Jenkins URL: >> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-adt-python-qt4/5 >> to view the results. >> >> Private Jenkins URL: http://10.189.74.2:8080/job/saucy-adt-python-qt4/5 >> >> - >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality >> > > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- Pierre Equoy -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
Was unity working before you install the proprietary drivers? Istimsak Abdulbasir On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Samuel Gabbay wrote: > Here are the specs > > > https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDQQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fh10025.www1.hp.com%2Fewfrf%2Fwc%2Fdocument%3Fdocname%3Dc02618765%26cc%3Dfr%26dlc%3Den%26lc%3Dfr&ei=64nQUeCqHKL0yQGI-IDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNE_dzd3DPuAmq3cvve2piCsQNY-yw > > I tried installig the ati drivers and unity would simply not work mate > > Envoyé de mon iPod > > Le 2013-06-30 à 03:16 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" a > écrit : > > Tell us more about your GPU not working with 13.04. > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Samuel Gabbay > wrote: > >> Because my graphics dont work with 13.04:( >> >> Envoyé de mon iPod >> >> Le 2013-06-30 à 02:48 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" a >> écrit : >> >> I hope it does. >> >> Here is what I read on, >> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 >> , >> >> "For 13.10 we plan on delivering Mir by default in Ubuntu Desktop with >> XMir (an implementation of X running on Mir) and our current Unity 7 >> codebase (the same Unity codebase that is currently in the Ubuntu 13.10 >> development release). >> >> This will be enabled for graphics hardware with Open Source drivers >> supported by Mir (primarily Intel, Nouveau). For binary graphics drivers >> (e.g. many NVidia and ATI cards) we will fallback to the normal X server >> that we usually ship. This will mean that all users are well served in >> Ubuntu 13.10." >> >> >> This means, starting with 13.10, ubuntu will ship XMir for GPUs that can >> use open source drivers supported by Mir. By any chance your GPU needs its >> proprietary drivers, then you can rollback to X. >> >> >> Istimsak Abdulbasir >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Samuel Gabbay > > wrote: >> >>> Make sure it works for mobility radeon 4250 please >>> >>> Envoyé de mon iPod >>> >>> Le 2013-06-30 à 02:34 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" >>> a écrit : >>> >>> I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers. >>> Hopefully, those will supported in the near future. >>> >>> What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I >>> have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will >>> not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will >>> rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir. >>> >>> Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn. >>> >>> Istimsak Abdulbasir >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman >>> wrote: >>> I think you're missing the point. The drivers in question are proprietary. The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system vendors, so until they develop and release the code, there won't be any. Canonical has announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support, but they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do that. Scott K On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of XMir > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir > should have optimal support for most GPUs. > > http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any vendor > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least > > somewhat > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. > > > > Scott K > > > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. > > > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > > Hello Istimsak, > > > > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for > > > them > > > by 14.04 LTS. > > > > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > > (K)ubuntu member > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video > > > > drivers", > > > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the > > > > proprietary > > > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > > > > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman > > > > wrote: > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone > > > >>
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
Both. Scott K On Sunday, June 30, 2013 09:59:02 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video drivers", > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the proprietary > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone with > > nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other flavors > > are > > sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 hardware > > enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. > > > > Scott K > > > > On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > > > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will rollback > > > > to > > > > > xorg. > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" > > > > wrote: > > > > A > > > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if > > > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. > > > > > > > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be > > > > available? > > > > > > > > Ade. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < > > > > saqman2...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both Mir and > > > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? > > > >> > > > >> Istimsak abdulbasir > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
Tell us more about your GPU not working with 13.04. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Samuel Gabbay wrote: > Because my graphics dont work with 13.04:( > > Envoyé de mon iPod > > Le 2013-06-30 à 02:48 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" a > écrit : > > I hope it does. > > Here is what I read on, > http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 > , > > "For 13.10 we plan on delivering Mir by default in Ubuntu Desktop with > XMir (an implementation of X running on Mir) and our current Unity 7 > codebase (the same Unity codebase that is currently in the Ubuntu 13.10 > development release). > > This will be enabled for graphics hardware with Open Source drivers > supported by Mir (primarily Intel, Nouveau). For binary graphics drivers > (e.g. many NVidia and ATI cards) we will fallback to the normal X server > that we usually ship. This will mean that all users are well served in > Ubuntu 13.10." > > > This means, starting with 13.10, ubuntu will ship XMir for GPUs that can > use open source drivers supported by Mir. By any chance your GPU needs its > proprietary drivers, then you can rollback to X. > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Samuel Gabbay > wrote: > >> Make sure it works for mobility radeon 4250 please >> >> Envoyé de mon iPod >> >> Le 2013-06-30 à 02:34 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" a >> écrit : >> >> I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers. >> Hopefully, those will supported in the near future. >> >> What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I >> have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will >> not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will >> rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir. >> >> Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn. >> >> Istimsak Abdulbasir >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman >> wrote: >> >>> I think you're missing the point. The drivers in question are >>> proprietary. >>> The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system >>> vendors, so >>> until they develop and release the code, there won't be any. Canonical >>> has >>> announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support, >>> but >>> they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do >>> that. >>> >>> Scott K >>> >>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: >>> > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of >>> XMir >>> > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X >>> > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir >>> > should have optimal support for most GPUs. >>> > >>> > >>> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne >>> > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 >>> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman >>> wrote: >>> > > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any >>> vendor >>> > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least >>> > > somewhat >>> > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. >>> > > >>> > > Scott K >>> > > >>> > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. >>> > > >>> > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: >>> > > > Hello Istimsak, >>> > > > >>> > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available >>> for >>> > > > them >>> > > > by 14.04 LTS. >>> > > > >>> > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) >>> > > > (K)ubuntu member >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir >>> > > > >>> > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video >>> > > >>> > > drivers", >>> > > >>> > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the >>> > > >>> > > proprietary >>> > > >>> > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman >>> > > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so >>> anyone >>> > > > >> with >>> > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the >>> other >>> > > > >> flavors are >>> > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 >>> > > >>> > > hardware >>> > > >>> > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> Scott K >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir >>> wrote: >>> > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will >>> > > >>> > > rollback >>> > > >>> > > > >> to >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > xorg. >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" < >>> adriangood...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> w
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
I hope it does. Here is what I read on, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 , "For 13.10 we plan on delivering Mir by default in Ubuntu Desktop with XMir (an implementation of X running on Mir) and our current Unity 7 codebase (the same Unity codebase that is currently in the Ubuntu 13.10 development release). This will be enabled for graphics hardware with Open Source drivers supported by Mir (primarily Intel, Nouveau). For binary graphics drivers (e.g. many NVidia and ATI cards) we will fallback to the normal X server that we usually ship. This will mean that all users are well served in Ubuntu 13.10." This means, starting with 13.10, ubuntu will ship XMir for GPUs that can use open source drivers supported by Mir. By any chance your GPU needs its proprietary drivers, then you can rollback to X. Istimsak Abdulbasir On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Samuel Gabbay wrote: > Make sure it works for mobility radeon 4250 please > > Envoyé de mon iPod > > Le 2013-06-30 à 02:34 PM, "Istimsak Abdulbasir" a > écrit : > > I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers. > Hopefully, those will supported in the near future. > > What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I > have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will > not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will > rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir. > > Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn. > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> I think you're missing the point. The drivers in question are >> proprietary. >> The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system >> vendors, so >> until they develop and release the code, there won't be any. Canonical >> has >> announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support, >> but >> they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do >> that. >> >> Scott K >> >> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: >> > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of >> XMir >> > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X >> > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir >> > should have optimal support for most GPUs. >> > >> > >> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne >> > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 >> > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman >> wrote: >> > > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any >> vendor >> > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least >> > > somewhat >> > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. >> > > >> > > Scott K >> > > >> > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. >> > > >> > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: >> > > > Hello Istimsak, >> > > > >> > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for >> > > > them >> > > > by 14.04 LTS. >> > > > >> > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) >> > > > (K)ubuntu member >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir >> > > > >> > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video >> > > >> > > drivers", >> > > >> > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the >> > > >> > > proprietary >> > > >> > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? >> > > > > >> > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so >> anyone >> > > > >> with >> > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the >> other >> > > > >> flavors are >> > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 >> > > >> > > hardware >> > > >> > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Scott K >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: >> > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will >> > > >> > > rollback >> > > >> > > > >> to >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > xorg. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" < >> adriangood...@gmail.com> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > A >> > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir >> and if >> > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would >> also be >> > > > >> > > available? >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Ade. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM,
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
I understand that. I was not referring to the proprietary drivers. Hopefully, those will supported in the near future. What I was referring to was X running on top of Mire called "XMir". As I have understood, Both X and Mir will be available for 13.10. If Mir will not work on some hardware, for whatever reason, then, the system will rollback to xorg. Going forward, the X rollback will be replaced by XMir. Please, tell me if I'm mistaken. I am here to learn. Istimsak Abdulbasir On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I think you're missing the point. The drivers in question are proprietary. > The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system vendors, > so > until they develop and release the code, there won't be any. Canonical has > announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support, > but > they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do > that. > > Scott K > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of > XMir > > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X > > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir > > should have optimal support for most GPUs. > > > > > http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne > > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: > > > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any > vendor > > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least > > > somewhat > > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. > > > > > > Scott K > > > > > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. > > > > > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > > > Hello Istimsak, > > > > > > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for > > > > them > > > > by 14.04 LTS. > > > > > > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > > > (K)ubuntu member > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video > > > > > > drivers", > > > > > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the > > > > > > proprietary > > > > > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > > > > > > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so > anyone > > > > >> with > > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other > > > > >> flavors are > > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 > > > > > > hardware > > > > > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. > > > > >> > > > > >> Scott K > > > > >> > > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will > > > > > > rollback > > > > > > > >> to > > > > >> > > > > >> > xorg. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" < > adriangood...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > A > > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and > if > > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would > also be > > > > >> > > available? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Ade. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < > > > > >> > > > > >> saqman2...@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both > > > > >> > >> Mir > > > > >> > >> and > > > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > >> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > >> > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > > > -- > > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify s
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
I think you're missing the point. The drivers in question are proprietary. The only source for changes to support Mir is the graphics system vendors, so until they develop and release the code, there won't be any. Canonical has announced they are discussing it with them and that they expect support, but they can't actually promise it will be provided, only the vendors can do that. Scott K On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19:54 AM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of XMir > for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X > rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir > should have optimal support for most GPUs. > > http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburne > r&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any vendor > > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least > > somewhat > > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. > > > > Scott K > > > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. > > > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > > Hello Istimsak, > > > > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for > > > them > > > by 14.04 LTS. > > > > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > > (K)ubuntu member > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video > > > > drivers", > > > > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the > > > > proprietary > > > > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > > > > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman > > > > wrote: > > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone > > > >> with > > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other > > > >> flavors are > > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 > > > > hardware > > > > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. > > > >> > > > >> Scott K > > > >> > > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will > > > > rollback > > > > > >> to > > > >> > > > >> > xorg. > > > >> > > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" > > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > A > > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if > > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be > > > >> > > available? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Ade. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < > > > >> > > > >> saqman2...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both > > > >> > >> Mir > > > >> > >> and > > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -- > > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > >> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > >> > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Jenkins Failure - saucy-adt-python-qt4 5
Must of been a mistake On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > This is the first Jenkins failure mail I've gotten. I can't make sense of > it. > Was there even a test run? Why was the mail sent? > > Scott K > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > Subject: Jenkins Failure - saucy-adt-python-qt4 5 > Date: Sunday, June 30, 2013, 08:11:16 AM > From: Jenkins Notification > To: ubuntu-testing-notificati...@lists.ubuntu.com, jean- > baptiste.lallem...@canonical.com, martin.p...@ubuntu.com, > ubu...@kitterman.com > > saucy-adt-python-qt4 - Build # 5 - Failure: > > Public Jenkins URL: > https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-adt-python-qt4/5 > to view the results. > > Private Jenkins URL: http://10.189.74.2:8080/job/saucy-adt-python-qt4/5 > > - > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
It is a work in progress. There is a video displaying the workings of XMir for compatibility for X applications. Once this is fully developed, X rollback will be removed and XMir will take its place. Up to 14.04, Mir should have optimal support for most GPUs. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ubuntu-news+%28Ubuntu+News%29 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any vendor > announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least > somewhat > up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. > > Scott K > > P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. > > On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > Hello Istimsak, > > > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for them > > by 14.04 LTS. > > > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > (K)ubuntu member > > > > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video > drivers", > > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the > proprietary > > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: > > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone > > >> with > > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other > > >> flavors are > > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 > hardware > > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. > > >> > > >> Scott K > > >> > > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will > rollback > > >> > > >> to > > >> > > >> > xorg. > > >> > > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > A > > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if > > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. > > >> > > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be > > >> > > available? > > >> > > > > >> > > Ade. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < > > >> > > >> saqman2...@gmail.com > > >> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both Mir > > >> > >> and > > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir > > >> > >> > > >> > >> -- > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > >> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >> > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > > > -- > > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
Canonical have said they expect such support. I haven't seen any vendor announcements that they will provide them, so I think it's at least somewhat up in the air about when/if such support will be delivered. Scott K P.S. I am subscribed, no need to cc me. On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:11:09 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Istimsak, > > the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for them > by 14.04 LTS. > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > (K)ubuntu member > > > 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video drivers", > > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the proprietary > > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone > >> with > >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other > >> flavors are > >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 hardware > >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. > >> > >> Scott K > >> > >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will rollback > >> > >> to > >> > >> > xorg. > >> > > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" > >> > >> wrote: > >> > > A > >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if > >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. > >> > > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be > >> > > available? > >> > > > >> > > Ade. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < > >> > >> saqman2...@gmail.com > >> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both Mir > >> > >> and > >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? > >> > >> > >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > >> > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > >> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > >> > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Fwd: Jenkins Failure - saucy-adt-python-qt4 5
This is the first Jenkins failure mail I've gotten. I can't make sense of it. Was there even a test run? Why was the mail sent? Scott K -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Jenkins Failure - saucy-adt-python-qt4 5 Date: Sunday, June 30, 2013, 08:11:16 AM From: Jenkins Notification To: ubuntu-testing-notificati...@lists.ubuntu.com, jean- baptiste.lallem...@canonical.com, martin.p...@ubuntu.com, ubu...@kitterman.com saucy-adt-python-qt4 - Build # 5 - Failure: Public Jenkins URL: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-adt-python-qt4/5 to view the results. Private Jenkins URL: http://10.189.74.2:8080/job/saucy-adt-python-qt4/5 - -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
Hello Istimsak, the proprietary drivers. However Mir support should be available for them by 14.04 LTS. Howard Chan (smartboyhw) (K)ubuntu member 2013/6/30 Istimsak Abdulbasir > Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video drivers", > are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the proprietary > drivers supplied by the manufacturers? > > Istimsak Abdulbasir > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone with >> nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other >> flavors are >> sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 hardware >> enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. >> >> Scott K >> >> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: >> > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will rollback >> to >> > xorg. >> > >> > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" >> wrote: >> > > A >> > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if >> > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. >> > > >> > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be >> > > available? >> > > >> > > Ade. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < >> saqman2...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > > wrote: >> > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both Mir and >> > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? >> > >> >> > >> Istimsak abdulbasir >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list >> > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com >> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality >> > > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: Mir instead of Xorg-server
Scott, when you say "there is no Mir support for non-free video drivers", are you referring to the drivers provided in the repos, or the proprietary drivers supplied by the manufacturers? Istimsak Abdulbasir On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Currently there's no Mir suport for non-free video drivers, so anyone with > nVidia/ATI will need to use Xorg. Additionally, some of the other flavors > are > sticking with X for 13.10, and X from 13.10 is needed for 12.04 hardware > enablement updates, so it'll be maintained in any case. > > Scott K > > On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:49:29 PM Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote: > > Thanks guys. So be default, if Mir is unsuccessful, ubunu will rollback > to > > xorg. > > > > On Jun 29, 2013 4:08 PM, "Adrian Goodyer" > wrote: > > > A > > > s far as I know the graphics drivers will try and use Mir and if > > > unsuccessful will rollback to X. > > > > > > I would presume then, that a choice between the two would also be > > > available? > > > > > > Ade. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Istimsak Abdulbasir < > saqman2...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> Starting with 13.10, will the new xserver be Mir or will both Mir and > > >> xorg-server be available for saucy? > > >> > > >> Istimsak abdulbasir > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > >> Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
