Testdrive hackfest.

[Jackson Doak]

 I will be running a hackfest for testdrive (launchpad.net/testdrive)
sometime in august, ideally on a weekend. Are there any specific time
people would like it to be?

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Bugs

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi folks,

over the weekend I was asked about the handling of a fairly rare bug that
resulted in a core dump. It was marked so private that even the bug-squad
could not view it. (I do love it when it happens at a week end!). So, a
couple of chats, messages left etc. has created an entry for it, and a sub
page with further information. The area they are on will look pretty
familiar as it was a copy & paste from our own lubuntu/testing area. It
makes sense to have only one area to keep updated, so the 'bug' area of
lubuntu/testing[1] following on from the "Don't mess with the Boss's bugs"
area now points to the new area on main QA area[2].

It's more "For Your Information" should a bug that causes a core dump occur
and you wonder what is happening! As ever, I'd like to record my thanks to
the various members of the bug-squad who have taken the time to not only
explain things to me, but also edited up the section on the subject and
even added a new sub-page for the geeks to read :)

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Bugs
2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview/#Bugs

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Re: 13.10 daily image - Unity not launching after upgrade

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

I'm not a ubuntu tester (I'm Lubuntu), so cannot answer about mir, however
I do suggest you look closely at what an update & upgrade is planning to do
as per the link on my earlier email [1]. If it is *not* offering a partial
upgrade then there may be a gremiln in the works; if it *does* offer a
partial upgrade, my advice is to refuse it and try again some 12 hours
later.  However, at this early stage of testing  (in old language, we are
still pre-alpha 2) things can get out of sync for a few hours. If you are
in doubt of what an upgrade is proposing, ask on the #ubuntu-quality IRC
channel.

Thank you for being a tester. Keep smiling and keep testing :)

Regards,

Phill.
1. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434

On 15 July 2013 19:56, Vasudevan Kottilil  wrote:

> Thanks, Nicholas and Phil.
> I am not using virtualbox. I have two test environments - one is
> saucy-daily-guest image in kvm. Other is a bare metal installation running
> alongside my 12.10 main desktop on a different partition.
> I was getting these errors when trying to refresh daily build using
> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.
> Yesterday I was able to download latest good zsync (i think it is friday's
> image) from a location with faster connection, burned and reinstalled on my
> test partition.
> So I am good to continue my tests for now. It will be a problem if I get
> the same error after the next apt-get upgrade.
>
> Another question in this regard - does the display engine switch over to
> mir automatically after an apt-get upgrade? Or is it a user initiated task?
> Is there any command to show which graphics engine is currently running?
> Thanks
> Vasudevan Kottilil
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Following on from what Nicholas said, when upgrading a test ISO, please
>> be aware of possibility of the upgrade not being fully sync'd and asking to
>> remove things, more details can be found at
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On 15 July 2013 16:40, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>>
>>>  Vasudevan, this is in a virtualbox image right? And your using the
>>> 64-bit daily saucy image? Can you give us anymore details about your setup
>>> that might help? If your encountering issues, you can workaround them a
>>> couple ways.
>>>
>>> 1) Use a non-unity desktop enviroment. If something in unity is broken,
>>> use lxde, xfce, or something else in the interim.
>>> 2) Stay on an older image and don't upgrade until your bug is fixed.
>>> Make sure you file it, but if your using a vm, you should be able to clone
>>> it so you have a working machine that you can use and a spare test version
>>> to check and track progress on the bug preventing you from upgrading.
>>>
>>> Nicholas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/12/2013 06:10 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Phil; Tried update/upgrade again today and still can not
>>> boot/log into 13.10 after upgrade. During upgrade, saw a bunch of errors
>>> like these
>>> "(gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:5767): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open
>>> pixbuf loader module file
>>> '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such
>>> file or directory
>>> This likely means that your installation is broken."
>>> Than I  reinstalled the older image from dvd and did an
>>> update/upgrade;got the same errors.
>>> Vasudevan Kottilil
>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

  update & upgrade will indeed up date an installed system, if you want
 to refresh your ISO for installation then use zsync [1].

  Regards,

  Phill.
 1.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy#Introduction_to_QA_.2BAC8_Testing

   On 12 July 2013 17:15, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:

>  As a follow up, do we have to download new iso and re install to
> reflect the change over from unity to mir? Usually I apt-get upgrade to
> refresh the daily image.
> Thanks,
> Vasudevan Kottilil
>
>
>  On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil <
> vasudeva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Unity shell is not launching after login screen.
>> Tried these steps and still not working -
>> unity --reset-icons -> got a message saying that another widow
>> manager is already running on screen 0 and froze afterwards.
>> Tried to enable using ccsm and does not work.
>>
>> Anyone else seeing similar issues?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vasudevan Kottilil
>>
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Re: 13.10 daily image - Unity not launching after upgrade

[Vasudevan Kottilil]

Thanks, Nicholas and Phil.
I am not using virtualbox. I have two test environments - one is
saucy-daily-guest image in kvm. Other is a bare metal installation running
alongside my 12.10 main desktop on a different partition.
I was getting these errors when trying to refresh daily build using apt-get
update and apt-get upgrade.
Yesterday I was able to download latest good zsync (i think it is friday's
image) from a location with faster connection, burned and reinstalled on my
test partition.
So I am good to continue my tests for now. It will be a problem if I get
the same error after the next apt-get upgrade.

Another question in this regard - does the display engine switch over to
mir automatically after an apt-get upgrade? Or is it a user initiated task?
Is there any command to show which graphics engine is currently running?
Thanks
Vasudevan Kottilil

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Following on from what Nicholas said, when upgrading a test ISO, please be
> aware of possibility of the upgrade not being fully sync'd and asking to
> remove things, more details can be found at
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 15 July 2013 16:40, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>
>>  Vasudevan, this is in a virtualbox image right? And your using the
>> 64-bit daily saucy image? Can you give us anymore details about your setup
>> that might help? If your encountering issues, you can workaround them a
>> couple ways.
>>
>> 1) Use a non-unity desktop enviroment. If something in unity is broken,
>> use lxde, xfce, or something else in the interim.
>> 2) Stay on an older image and don't upgrade until your bug is fixed. Make
>> sure you file it, but if your using a vm, you should be able to clone it so
>> you have a working machine that you can use and a spare test version to
>> check and track progress on the bug preventing you from upgrading.
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>>
>> On 07/12/2013 06:10 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Phil; Tried update/upgrade again today and still can not boot/log
>> into 13.10 after upgrade. During upgrade, saw a bunch of errors like these
>> "(gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:5767): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open
>> pixbuf loader module file
>> '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such
>> file or directory
>> This likely means that your installation is broken."
>> Than I  reinstalled the older image from dvd and did an
>> update/upgrade;got the same errors.
>> Vasudevan Kottilil
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  update & upgrade will indeed up date an installed system, if you want
>>> to refresh your ISO for installation then use zsync [1].
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>>
>>>  Phill.
>>> 1.
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy#Introduction_to_QA_.2BAC8_Testing
>>>
>>>   On 12 July 2013 17:15, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
>>>
  As a follow up, do we have to download new iso and re install to
 reflect the change over from unity to mir? Usually I apt-get upgrade to
 refresh the daily image.
 Thanks,
 Vasudevan Kottilil


  On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil <
 vasudeva...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unity shell is not launching after login screen.
> Tried these steps and still not working -
> unity --reset-icons -> got a message saying that another widow manager
> is already running on screen 0 and froze afterwards.
> Tried to enable using ccsm and does not work.
>
> Anyone else seeing similar issues?
>
> Thanks,
> Vasudevan Kottilil
>


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Re: 13.10 daily image - Unity not launching after upgrade

[Phill Whiteside]

Following on from what Nicholas said, when upgrading a test ISO, please be
aware of possibility of the upgrade not being fully sync'd and asking to
remove things, more details can be found at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343434

Regards,

Phill.

On 15 July 2013 16:40, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:

>  Vasudevan, this is in a virtualbox image right? And your using the
> 64-bit daily saucy image? Can you give us anymore details about your setup
> that might help? If your encountering issues, you can workaround them a
> couple ways.
>
> 1) Use a non-unity desktop enviroment. If something in unity is broken,
> use lxde, xfce, or something else in the interim.
> 2) Stay on an older image and don't upgrade until your bug is fixed. Make
> sure you file it, but if your using a vm, you should be able to clone it so
> you have a working machine that you can use and a spare test version to
> check and track progress on the bug preventing you from upgrading.
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On 07/12/2013 06:10 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
>
> Thanks, Phil; Tried update/upgrade again today and still can not boot/log
> into 13.10 after upgrade. During upgrade, saw a bunch of errors like these
> "(gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:5767): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open
> pixbuf loader module file
> '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such
> file or directory
> This likely means that your installation is broken."
> Than I  reinstalled the older image from dvd and did an update/upgrade;got
> the same errors.
> Vasudevan Kottilil
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  update & upgrade will indeed up date an installed system, if you want
>> to refresh your ISO for installation then use zsync [1].
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Phill.
>> 1.
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy#Introduction_to_QA_.2BAC8_Testing
>>
>>   On 12 July 2013 17:15, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
>>
>>>  As a follow up, do we have to download new iso and re install to
>>> reflect the change over from unity to mir? Usually I apt-get upgrade to
>>> refresh the daily image.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vasudevan Kottilil
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil <
>>> vasudeva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Unity shell is not launching after login screen.
 Tried these steps and still not working -
 unity --reset-icons -> got a message saying that another widow manager
 is already running on screen 0 and froze afterwards.
 Tried to enable using ccsm and does not work.

 Anyone else seeing similar issues?

 Thanks,
 Vasudevan Kottilil

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Re: 13.10 daily image - Unity not launching after upgrade

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Vasudevan, this is in a virtualbox image right? And your using the 
64-bit daily saucy image? Can you give us anymore details about your 
setup that might help? If your encountering issues, you can workaround 
them a couple ways.


1) Use a non-unity desktop enviroment. If something in unity is broken, 
use lxde, xfce, or something else in the interim.
2) Stay on an older image and don't upgrade until your bug is fixed. 
Make sure you file it, but if your using a vm, you should be able to 
clone it so you have a working machine that you can use and a spare test 
version to check and track progress on the bug preventing you from 
upgrading.


Nicholas

On 07/12/2013 06:10 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil wrote:
Thanks, Phil; Tried update/upgrade again today and still can not 
boot/log into 13.10 after upgrade. During upgrade, saw a bunch of 
errors like these
"(gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:5767): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open 
pixbuf loader module file 
'/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No 
such file or directory

This likely means that your installation is broken."
Than I  reinstalled the older image from dvd and did an 
update/upgrade;got the same errors.

Vasudevan Kottilil
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Phill Whiteside > wrote:


Hi,

update & upgrade will indeed up date an installed system, if you
want to refresh your ISO for installation then use zsync [1].

Regards,

Phill.
1.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy#Introduction_to_QA_.2BAC8_Testing

On 12 July 2013 17:15, Vasudevan Kottilil mailto:vasudeva...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As a follow up, do we have to download new iso and re install
to reflect the change over from unity to mir? Usually I
apt-get upgrade to refresh the daily image.
Thanks,
Vasudevan Kottilil


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Vasudevan Kottilil
mailto:vasudeva...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unity shell is not launching after login screen.
Tried these steps and still not working -
unity --reset-icons -> got a message saying that another
widow manager is already running on screen 0 and froze
afterwards.
Tried to enable using ccsm and does not work.

Anyone else seeing similar issues?

Thanks,
Vasudevan Kottilil



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