Re: Please, review this Bugs Importances draft

2014-10-12 Thread C de-Avillez
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On 11/10/14 21:10, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:

 Thomas Ward:
 Why are you posting this on the QA list instead of the bugsquad
 list?
 
 Because I thought the Bug-Squad team had joined the Quality team a
 long time ago, and was listed in Launchpad just for historical
 reasons. So is this a mistake?

Well. Yes, and no.

YES, it is misrouted: BugSquad is responsible for keeping the triage
pages. By not addressing the BugSquad, you may be missing some
interested people.

NO, it is OK(ish): we discussed, some time ago, joining BugSquad and
Quality. At the time we thought of keeping the mailing lists and IRC
channels separate. I have been, lately, wondering if we should
consider a more radical approach.

[ given that I am subscribed to both the busquad and quality ML, I do
not have loss of information; but I cannot state how many are in one
and not in the other.]

Reasoning: I personally have always seen triage as one aspect of
quality. This view, to be completely honest, is NOT shared between me
and the luminaries of QA (and the discussion of why is too long) but I
do not mind: I still think that they are inter-related.

Right now, the Yes/No ratio (to Alberto's question) is at around 60/40.

Perhaps it is time to consider joining more of BugSquad to Quality.

..C..


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Re: Please, review this Bugs Importances draft

2014-10-12 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella

C de-Avillez:

Right now, the Yes/No ratio (to Alberto's question) is at around 60/40.


Then, for the moment, I'll be writing to both of them.


C de-Avillez:
 Perhaps it is time to consider joining more of BugSquad to Quality.

It looks appropriate to me, because now they are sharing functions.



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Re: Please, review this Bugs Importances draft

2014-10-12 Thread Elfy

On 12/10/14 15:53, C de-Avillez wrote:

[snip]

YES, it is misrouted: BugSquad is responsible for keeping the triage
pages. By not addressing the BugSquad, you may be missing some
interested people.

Surely people should join mailing lists that are of interest to them ;)

Down that road - everyone is in one mailing list ...


NO, it is OK(ish): we discussed, some time ago, joining BugSquad and
Quality. At the time we thought of keeping the mailing lists and IRC
channels separate. I have been, lately, wondering if we should
consider a more radical approach.
I'm glad that the Bugsquad and Quality lists and IRC channel are kept 
seperate - while they might both be looking toward the same goal that 
doesn't necessarily equate to needing to be in the same place.




[ given that I am subscribed to both the busquad and quality ML, I do
not have loss of information; but I cannot state how many are in one
and not in the other.]


I wasn't subscribed to both - then when there was a move to join I 
subscribed to the bugsquad list too - I've not seen anything on that 
list that actually affects me nor what I need to know, I've now 
unsubscribed from the bugsquad list.


I would much rather that bugsquad conversation be kept to that list. 
This thread being a prime example ;)


I wouldn't post to the bugsquad list about issues pertaining to alpha, 
beta or rc images nor would I expect people on the bugsquad list to 
assume that would be place to find or discuss those issues




Reasoning: I personally have always seen triage as one aspect of
quality. This view, to be completely honest, is NOT shared between me
and the luminaries of QA (and the discussion of why is too long) but I
do not mind: I still think that they are inter-related.

Right now, the Yes/No ratio (to Alberto's question) is at around 60/40.
I'd disagree at the moment. Editing a bugsquad wiki page would surely be 
the province of the bugsquad.

[snip]




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