Re: Startup Disc Creator

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Nio Wiklund:
> Are you suggesting to file a bug against gparted?

Ian Bruntlett:
> how many do you want me to create? Both GPartEd and the system in
> general can't access the data on the flash drives.

Well, I thought the bug was with the Startup Disk Creator.

So probably Nio will be able to tell better were this bug goes to. Why 
isn't the flash disc recognised by the file manager?



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Re: Startup Disc Creator

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi All,

On 8 September 2016 at 18:51, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> This kind of USB drives, cloned from the iso files, have a very special
> system of partitions, that is not recognized correctly by gparted. It is
> made from a 'hybrid' iso file, and should work from both a DVD disk and USB
> pendrive.
>
> Another program, lsblk, is more successful. Make a very wide terminal
> window and run the command
>
> sudo lsblk -fm
>
> After all, the important thing is that the computer can boot from it, not
> that gparted can read it ;-)
>
Indeed. I've just finished playing around with things and my NetBook can
boot the Flash Media from all 3 of its USB ports. However, GPartEd doesn't
recognise the drive and Linux doesn't automount it so I can't have a look
at the drive's contents using a file manager.


On 8 September 2016 at 18:55, Alberto Salvia Novella 
wrote:
Ian Bruntlett:
> The flash drive is not being recognised. To quote GPartEd, "Unable to
> detect file system!".
>
> Does anyone else have this problem?




*Yes, I have. I thought the device was broken. Please open a new report
about it, and I will confirm and triage it for you. *
OK.. how many do you want me to create? Both GPartEd and the system in
general can't access the data on the flash drives. However, you can install
Lubuntu with them so that's OK.

BW,


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Re: Startup Disc Creator

[Nio Wiklund]

Den 2016-09-08 kl. 19:55, skrev Alberto Salvia Novella:

Ian Bruntlett:

The flash drive is not being recognised. To quote GPartEd, "Unable to
detect file system!".

Does anyone else have this problem?


Yes, I have. I thought the device was broken.

Please open a new report about it, and I will confirm and triage it for
you.

Thanks 


Hi Alberto,

This is by intention: This way to create USB boot drives, cloning, is 
very robust, and it solves the long-lasting problem of bugs that has 
plagued the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator (I think since 2011, Ubuntu 
10.10 was still good).


There are other things to consider:

- this kind of boot drive is read-only [1]

- it is more complicated to restore a standard storage drive [2,3]

- there is no way to create a persistent live drive built into this 
Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator. (So users who want that must use other 
tools, for example [4].


[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1549603
[3] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2314875
[4] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb#Persistent_live_systems

Best regards
Nio

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Re: Startup Disc Creator

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Ian Bruntlett:
> The flash drive is not being recognised. To quote GPartEd, "Unable to
> detect file system!".
>
> Does anyone else have this problem?

Yes, I have. I thought the device was broken.

Please open a new report about it, and I will confirm and triage it for you.

Thanks 


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Re: Startup Disc Creator

[Nio Wiklund]

Den 2016-09-08 kl. 19:39, skrev Ian Bruntlett:

Hi,

I am running Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, 64-bit.

For some time I have been using Startup Disc Creator to create Lubuntu
32-bit install media (on USB flash drives).

However, today, when I was attempting to create a Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
desktop 32-bit install USB flash drive using Startup Disc Creator (0.3.2),
it would write the iso to the flash drive OK. Except for one thing. The
flash drive is not being recognised. To quote GPartEd, "Unable to detect
file system!".

Does anyone else have this problem?

BW,


Ian



Hi Ian,

This kind of USB drives, cloned from the iso files, have a very special 
system of partitions, that is not recognized correctly by gparted. It is 
made from a 'hybrid' iso file, and should work from both a DVD disk and 
USB pendrive.


Another program, lsblk, is more successful. Make a very wide terminal 
window and run the command


sudo lsblk -fm

After all, the important thing is that the computer can boot from it, 
not that gparted can read it ;-)


Best regards
Nio

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Startup Disc Creator

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi,

I am running Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, 64-bit.

For some time I have been using Startup Disc Creator to create Lubuntu
32-bit install media (on USB flash drives).

However, today, when I was attempting to create a Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
desktop 32-bit install USB flash drive using Startup Disc Creator (0.3.2),
it would write the iso to the flash drive OK. Except for one thing. The
flash drive is not being recognised. To quote GPartEd, "Unable to detect
file system!".

Does anyone else have this problem?

BW,


Ian

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Re: Introduction

[Nio Wiklund]

Den 2016-09-08 kl. 13:55, skrev Ian Bruntlett:

Hi Tim,

On 8 September 2016 at 08:49, Donald Timothy Tribble 
wrote:


I look forward to working with all of you.


Welcome :)

BW,


Ian



+1 Welcome Tim :-)

Nio



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Re: Introduction

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Tim,

On 8 September 2016 at 08:49, Donald Timothy Tribble 
wrote:

> I look forward to working with all of you.
>
Welcome :)

BW,


Ian

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Introduction

[Donald Timothy Tribble]

Greetings, I go by my middle name of Tim. I am new to Linux and learning 
to be a System Engineer. I currently work in Emergency Management and I 
am considered a super user for our applications. I am looking to move 
careers as I approach retirement and think that working with Linux will 
be a good second career. On the lighter side, I enjoy figure and 
landscape photography and an an Amateur Radio Operator, Instructor and 
Volunteer Examiner.


I look forward to working with all of you.

Thanks,

Tim

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