Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[Brian Murray]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 06:45:02AM +, flocculant wrote:
> I've been seeing the bug wherein a usb3 drive remounts itself after you've
> ejected via file manager(s) for some time
> 
> The issue has been kicking since 2011 (bug 792085 was reported in 2011)[1]
> 
> Recently suse found a fix [2]
> 
> Is this something that will eventually find it's way to us through kernel?

Yes, eventually since it seems to have been submitted to the upstream
kernel.  That being said it'd be good to get this fix SRU'ed into Ubuntu
16.04 and maybe Ubuntu 16.10.

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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[flocculant]

Spoke to Brian Murray on ubuntu-qa on irc - have my answer. At some 
point in the new year I'll follow up.


Thanks all

On 15/12/16 06:45, flocculant wrote:
I've been seeing the bug wherein a usb3 drive remounts itself after 
you've ejected via file manager(s) for some time


The issue has been kicking since 2011 (bug 792085 was reported in 
2011)[1]


Recently suse found a fix [2]

Is this something that will eventually find it's way to us through 
kernel?


I can only imagine that the situation will get worse as more people 
purchase usb3 devices.



[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/792085

[2] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922634





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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[flocculant]

Yes I can unmount from a terminal - shouldn't have to - this is *buntu.

Linux for the *masses*

The main reason for bringing this up on the quality mailing list is to 
give the issue some more visibility.



On 15/12/16 15:58, JMZ wrote:

Hi flocculant,

Have you checked the device status through the lsblk command?  If you 
are done with the device, you might have to enter a umount command for 
the device before it is fully removable without data loss.


I'm wary of file managers' ability to mount/unmount drives. Better to 
set up a simple startup script which mounts all the drives at the 
beginning.  It's a cinch then to umount drives as they are not 
needed.  Anything that could result in data loss is best entrusted to 
a terminal.


Jordan

On 12/15/2016 01:45 AM, flocculant wrote:
I've been seeing the bug wherein a usb3 drive remounts itself after 
you've ejected via file manager(s) for some time







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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[flocculant]

On 15/12/16 14:07, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:

Flocculant:

Not sure that flashing bios and all the pain that *could* cause is
something I'm willing to do nor likely to help.


https://youtu.be/lSmcsGmoYTs





No idea what that is - not looking either.
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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[JMZ]

Hi flocculant,

Have you checked the device status through the lsblk command?  If you 
are done with the device, you might have to enter a umount command for 
the device before it is fully removable without data loss.


I'm wary of file managers' ability to mount/unmount drives.  Better to 
set up a simple startup script which mounts all the drives at the 
beginning.  It's a cinch then to umount drives as they are not needed.  
Anything that could result in data loss is best entrusted to a terminal.


Jordan

On 12/15/2016 01:45 AM, flocculant wrote:
I've been seeing the bug wherein a usb3 drive remounts itself after 
you've ejected via file manager(s) for some time




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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Flocculant:

Not sure that flashing bios and all the pain that *could* cause is
something I'm willing to do nor likely to help.


https://youtu.be/lSmcsGmoYTs


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Re: Upgrade was a disaster as usual <- still dead horse, just a clarification.

[Dario Ruellan]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Brendan Perrine 
wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:54:36 -0800
> Brian Murray  wrote:
>
> > from people who are nice and respectful than people who yell and
> Yes this is so true.
>
>
In fact, I missed the bug report on the original message just because I was
too focused reading the rant.
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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[flocculant]

On 15/12/16 09:07, Colin Law wrote:

On 15 December 2016 at 06:45, flocculant  wrote:

I've been seeing the bug wherein a usb3 drive remounts itself after you've
ejected via file manager(s) for some time

The issue has been kicking since 2011 (bug 792085 was reported in 2011)[1]

Recently suse found a fix [2]

Is this something that will eventually find it's way to us through kernel?

I can only imagine that the situation will get worse as more people purchase
usb3 devices.


[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/792085

[2] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922634

Have you checked your PC's firmware (BIOS) is up to date?

Colin
1 version out, change in bios is for "Update CPU microcode for win10 
support with Pentium AE"


Given that suse appear to have a kernel patch to fix this - not sure 
that flashing bios and all the pain that *could* cause is something I'm 
willing to do nor likely to help.


All that aside the main question in the thread is "Is this something 
that will eventually find it's way to us through kernel?"



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Re: USB 3 drives and remounting

[Colin Law]

On 15 December 2016 at 06:45, flocculant  wrote:
> I've been seeing the bug wherein a usb3 drive remounts itself after you've
> ejected via file manager(s) for some time
>
> The issue has been kicking since 2011 (bug 792085 was reported in 2011)[1]
>
> Recently suse found a fix [2]
>
> Is this something that will eventually find it's way to us through kernel?
>
> I can only imagine that the situation will get worse as more people purchase
> usb3 devices.
>
>
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/792085
>
> [2] https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922634

Have you checked your PC's firmware (BIOS) is up to date?

Colin

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