Re: I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide
Nicholas Skaggs: I would encourage you to continue your efforts to improving the bug reporting guide itself, as opposed to bikeshedding about artwork or making yet another page. I mean this draft is intended to substitute the official reporting guide, once agreed. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide
I lurk on this list - but I've got to briefly emerge to thank Nicholas for teaching me a new term "bikeshedding". I didn't know this Parkinson's Law. (For those who also weren't aware http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Parkinsons-law-of-triviality-bikeshedding ) --henry On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Nicholas Skaggs < nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote: > Alberto, I didn't see the artwork in question as I'm late to the thread. > However I did look at the guide just now. I don't think you need any > artwork on the page and as such I have removed it, given it's negative > response in this thread. I can appreciate all kinds of art, but there's no > reason to have it in a bug reporting guide. I also believe wiki etiquette > would dictate that you attach the image, rather than hotlink. > > That said, you are certainly free to craft the page under your namespace > to your liking (within reason). However, as the wiki is intended to be a > collaborative help guide for ubuntu, I would encourage you to continue your > efforts to improving the bug reporting guide itself, as opposed to > bikeshedding about artwork or making yet another page. I suspect you'll > find conversations on improving the bug reporting guide to be more fruitful > and receptive. > > You may find these useful as well; it's used in conjunction with the > reporting bugs page for reporting bugs for image testing. It's been > collaboratively improved by several members into something rather nice. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview/Install_Bugs > > See for example, the 'find a bug?' header on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/; > see how it works and where it links? > > Nicholas > > P.S. It's nice to see some old and familiar names come through my inbox! > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc > -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Ubuntu 17.04 and Wacom One S
Hello! Ubuntu 17.04 and Wacom One S do not work properly. System halts after 1-2 minutes after plug Wacom in. On Ubuntu 16.10 everything was fine. P.S. I apologize because of my english -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide
Nicholas Skaggs: I don't think you need any artwork on the page and as such I have removed it, given it's negative response in this thread. https://youtu.be/IGOsXqktN1M -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide
Let me offer some clarity and history on this symbol. In my previous post I referred to it as the sauwastika. Note the alternate spelling. This is the left-facing symbol that was never used by National Socialism. It is pervasive in Buddhist iconography. It was the right-facing Hindu and Jainism symbol was hijacked in the 1930s by the Nazi Party. Although I agree that what's important is the meaning the average person will ascribe to it, which evidently is Nazi Germany. With that, let's drop it and move on. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Alright guys let's all calm down and stop sniping at each other, I don't > have to want to call for moderation of the list again. > > That said, I have my own concerns by using the swastika. While the purest > form of the swastika comes from non-Nazi religious symbols, we should avoid > using it because of the way it was twisted during the late 30s and 40s. > Keeping it in will cause debates such as these which already started here > which should not be taking place. > > The rule of thumb in the world is "if it will potentially be seen as > extremely offensive don't even go anywhere near there." This is the rule > which is being broken here. > > I have yet to review the draft due to time constraints but I feel that a > majority of the community will agree with me on this one - the swastika is > a "no go" so it should be pulled from any Ubuntu documentation, draft or > not. > > > Thomas > > > > *Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typos, as they are likely to > happen by accident.* > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 20:15, Alvaro Effenberg0x0 Leal < > effenberg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Why did you make a video? Is this some sort of manifesto or something? > Look > > I won' t watch your video, this is not normal. Please write something or > > not, but just please refrain from putting a nazi swastika on Ubuntu Wiki > > and it's over ok? Thanks. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:51 PM Alberto Salvia Novella < > > es204904...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Alvaro Leal: > >>> I just wanted to say that I can' t believe someone is actually planning > >> to > >>> put a Nazi Swastika in the Ubuntu Wiki. Have you people lost your > minds? > >> > >> My answer: > >> https://youtu.be/aPhefCenly4 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Ubuntu-quality mailing list > > Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality > > -- > ubuntu-doc mailing list > ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc > -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide
Alberto, I didn't see the artwork in question as I'm late to the thread. However I did look at the guide just now. I don't think you need any artwork on the page and as such I have removed it, given it's negative response in this thread. I can appreciate all kinds of art, but there's no reason to have it in a bug reporting guide. I also believe wiki etiquette would dictate that you attach the image, rather than hotlink. That said, you are certainly free to craft the page under your namespace to your liking (within reason). However, as the wiki is intended to be a collaborative help guide for ubuntu, I would encourage you to continue your efforts to improving the bug reporting guide itself, as opposed to bikeshedding about artwork or making yet another page. I suspect you'll find conversations on improving the bug reporting guide to be more fruitful and receptive. You may find these useful as well; it's used in conjunction with the reporting bugs page for reporting bugs for image testing. It's been collaboratively improved by several members into something rather nice. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview/Install_Bugs See for example, the 'find a bug?' header on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/; see how it works and where it links? Nicholas P.S. It's nice to see some old and familiar names come through my inbox! -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
