Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Introducing Pilot; an app for testing

2015-10-02 Thread Brendan Donegan 
Hi,

Pressing start the test will take you to the screen where you can select
the result as Pass or Fail - both screens display the same instructions.

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 at 12:59 Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Thursday, October 01, 2015 a las 12:27:26PM -0400, Nicholas Skaggs
> escribió:
>
> > Since the initial announcement of a Ubuntu phone, the community has been
> > involved with finding bugs, fixing things, developing apps, and helping
> > make the phone what it is today. As time went on, users have been asking
> > for an easier way to help test new versions of Ubuntu, new core apps,
> > new services, etc. I agreed with them and longed for an easy to use
> > application that would allow an enthusiast to help run needed tests and
> > communicate the results.
> >
> > Today, I'd like to introduce a new application that is based on the
> > excellent work by the checkbox team called Pilot. This application is
> > the culmination of that dream. Pilot allows you to run manual tests on
> > your device and submit your results back to the QA team within
> > Canonical. You can execute tests on your phone at any time directly via
> > the application. Application updates will bring new tests that the QA
> > team wishes to target.
> >
> > So try the app out. Run through the tests and submit results. And then
> > also let us know what you think of using the application. It's my desire
> > to make the act of testing simple enough for you to do whenever the mood
> > strikes! Otherwise you might just play Falldown[1] instead :p
>
> I did:
>
> 1. installed the app
> 2. started the app
> 3. clicked "Start Testing"
> 4. checked box "dekko-firstrun"
> 5. clicked "Continue"
> 6. clicked "Start Testing" (4 tests were already marked in the checkbox)
>
> Now an instruction page comes up with 6 instructions. Should I do them
> manually or just click "Start the test"?
>
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Re: introduction

2014-07-16 Thread Brendan Donegan 
It's fully possible to have a lucrative career in the area of software
testing :) Connor, if you enjoy programming your skills can equally be
applied to the area of software quality, by working in test automation
and tool writing. Python especially is a really valuable language to
know in order to be involved with the Ubuntu community in this area.

On 15/07/14 21:27, Colin Law wrote:
 On 15 July 2014 12:31, Connor Rooney connor.w.roo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 My name is Connor. I am a beginner to software testing but have a Higher
 Diploma in Software Development. I am looking to gain experience in
 software testing in the hope of gaining employment in this area. Hope to be
 of great service.
 
 Not trying to dampen your enthusiasm for testing Ubuntu but if you
 have a diploma in s/w development you should be able to build a more
 lucrative career by developing s/w rather than testing it.
 
 Colin
 


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Re: Confusion and difficulty

2014-07-14 Thread Brendan Donegan 
Hi Bill,

It would be useful to know what you were looking for, and where you
started from - did you search, or go to www.ubuntu.com?

On 14/07/14 00:41, Bill Turley wrote:
 Thank you for making UBUNTU too confusing and difficult to download from
 your online site. I was hoping to have a dual operating system on a more
 powerful machine, but I guess I'll have to be content with UBUNTU 12.04 on
 my older machine.
 
 Thanks anyway,
 
 Bill
 


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Re: Chromium dev.

2013-04-16 Thread Brendan Donegan 

On 16/04/13 01:56, Istimsak Abdulbasir wrote:

If you don't mind me asking, What is an SRU?


SRU == https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates

Updates to a package that are released into already released versions of 
Ubuntu.





On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:


Hi,

Oh, my grammar!! The dev version of chromium has now been added to raring
 Should read  A Raring dev version of chromium has now been added to
this PPA. To save any further mis understandings, PPA actually stands for 
Personal
Package Archive  [1]. So, ANY PPA is to be considered as untrusted, this
includes all the ones that dev teams create when they ask you go test
something out. I mistakingly thought that the testing team would understand
what a PPA is, how to add it, the risks and how to remove it. I'm glad to
set the matter straight.

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA


On 15 April 2013 23:36, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:


Phil,

The PPA you refer to [1] is not supported and, as I said, is not part of
Ubuntu.  Your statement that, The dev version of chromium has now been
added
to raring is not correct.

Scott K

[1] https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev


On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:23:24 PM you wrote:

Hi Scott,

The 'PPA' I think you refer to [1] is not supported, and has not been

for

over a year. The Ubuntu team are simply concentrating on having SRU's.

The

PPA link I provided states that is not 'official', and this information

was

sent to the QA/Testing members only. I also stated that if they were to

use

it, they should know how to 'roll back'. At present, there seems no

formal

method of getting Chromium from 'dev', to 'beta' to 'released'. Security
updates from the current version on release to the dev version are over

2

release steps out of sync. which is not ideal, but out of my hands.

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://launchpad.net/chromium-project

On 15 April 2013 22:14, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:

On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:11:05 PM Phill Whiteside wrote:

Hi,

whilst the ubuntu guys do ensure timely updates for chromium, there

are

some of us who do not mind being on the bleeding edge. The dev

version

of
chromium has now been added to raring. Please understand that this

is

not
the 'stable beta' which seems to have fallen by the way side owing

to

not
enough man hours. If you want to 'play safe' then use the standard


upgrades


that apply, if you want to try out the 'dev' version, then add

Alex's


PPA.


[1].

As with all 'dev' versions, it may break so do be aware of how to

'roll

back'. But, for me it only had a (non-critical) bug for a couple of

days


in


the last 12 months.

@Alex, thanks for keeping the dev PPA updated.

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev


Phil,

Please keep a clear distinction between Ubuntu and other related

things.

There is an Ubuntu archive that's supported by the Ubuntu project.

  Many

people like to provide other packages in PPAs (such as this), but

they are

most emphatically not part of Ubuntu.  People installing software from
PPAs
need to do their own due diligence as there is absolutely no external

QA

or
security checks done of what goes into a PPA, so it's important that
people
understand if they are doing thing from the official archive or not.

Scott K

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Re: Proposal to merge #ubuntu-quality and #ubuntu-bugs

2013-01-03 Thread Brendan Donegan 

On 03/01/13 16:44, Charlie Kravetz wrote:

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 21:08:44 +0500
Omer Akram om2...@ubuntu.com wrote:


I would say that then the word ubuntu-quality is a bit too broad than its
actual purpose, i should have researched more but i did think they were not
limited to ISO testing only. As you stated that's not the case then its a
bit of misunderstanding about #ubuntu-quality on my end.


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Thomas Ward tew...@ubuntu.com wrote:


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com wrote:

On 01/03/2013 07:14 AM, Omer Akram wrote:

Hi All

Just recently there started a discussion on Ubuntu bug squad list
about less people getting involved in bug triage along the discussion
there were a few points raised which let me to put the idea of merging
#ubuntu-quality and #ubuntu-bugs into one. Ultimately both have the
same goal that is talking about quality in Ubuntu.

At time people testing Ubuntu ISO will raise their bugs in
#ubuntu-quality and discussions may take place there. People may or
may not be available in both channels but since I believe people do
talk mostly about bug reports in those channels (though
#ubuntu-quality do have other topics as well) but I think merging them
will make a few things easier one will be that there will be mostly a
unified place for people to talk about bugs (i know people may talk in
#ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-desktop as well but those channels have their own
reasons for exisitance)

Here I might not have a lot of point to argue plus I am never great
with words but the overall notion is that I believe that it will
result in a benefit for Ubuntu due to having a concentrated place to
talk bugs.

Thoughts/Suggestions/Pros/Cons all welcome and appreciated

Thanks!


I'm not sure I agree with this.  #ubuntu-bugs is specifically for bug
triage, whereas #ubuntu-quality seems to not have a defined topic.
Whereas I'm likely to watch #ubuntu-bugs for people who need help with
triage, I'm not necessarily interested in most of what happens with
image testing and the issues that arise from it.  This is not to say
that I don't care, rather that I'm not necessarily going to commit my
time to such issues.
You could in theory condense #ubuntu-devel, -desktop, and -release into
quality as well as the goal is quality, but I don't see that as being
productive.
Thanks,
Micah

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I am in full agreement with Micah, what #ubuntu-quality does is ISO
testing and other ISO/image related testing, and not necessarily bug
triage.  I lurk in both #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-quality.  The
channels have separate goals.  And in #ubuntu-bugs, I'm also more than
happy to help out with bug triaging, but I don't want to see ISO
testing bugs and related stuff in #ubuntu-bugs either.

Since not everyone's responding to both the BugSquad and
ubuntu-quality lists, I've sent this response to both.

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I was against the name change for testing to quality when it happened,
and I still believe the main results is confusion. quality in most
places is short for quality assurance or quality control. Neither
applies to ubuntu testing alone.
In the case of this list, '-quality' definitely expands to 'quality 
assurance' - as most of us know it was only 2 months ago that the list 
was called 'ubuntu-qa' standing for just that :) That being the case, if 
we are not doing 'quality assurance' then we definitely should be. The 
meaning of quality assurance is a set of procedures that *in theory* can 
provide a level of assurance that the product is of good quality. 
Conflating that with all software development practices which could 
impact on quality leads to far too broad a definition. If you like, QA 
tells you how your software is broken and bug triage is part of the 
process of fixing it.

However, in Ubuntu, ubuntu-quality is
simply a new name for testing. It is not a name to cover all quality of
the product.

With this definition in mind, to combine both quality and bug-triage
would be wrong, since triage and testing do not mean the same things.
Until Canonical decides once again that Quality means more than testing
a product, this can not happen.




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